No mention of whether he actually ran Spybot S&D, the first (and often final) step for anyone serious about eliminating spyware from a Windows install (but not serious enough to isolate critical machines from any network.)
I have a small number of friends who were born in China. I help them with their English when I can. I explain idiomatic expressions, teach them slang, and I proofread their papers. One of my friends learned English in Georgia. So her English has a Deep South accent, with a lot of expressions that are distinctly Southern, together with a lot of expressions that are distinctly from what I would call an African American dialect. I don't want to come across as racist here, and I am certainly not a linguistics researcher, just trying to describe a phenomenon. She learned English in a public school in Georgia, where a certain dialect prevails, and most of her peers were black teenagers in a segregated society. I find the results rather interesting...
"Calculus is okay, but set thoery and basic logic is the math that CS majors should be required to master in college. "
There's surely not a CS major out there that doesn't have at least 2 semesters of discrete math, requires at least single variable integration, and at least some elective that gets deep into algorithms, which means the typical CS major gets a LOT more experience writing proofs than people in other sciences, aside from math (which is a science.)
"Seriously though, I'm not surprised. It's not just financial spreadsheets that are going to cause these kinds of problems. "
Am I the only one who remembers the bad old days before even Visicalc? People honestly think the current systems are more error-prone than their predecessors?
"Linked spreadsheets are not intended as an enterprise application. But do they listen?"
Of course not. You know why? Because you cannot tell them that what they are doing is illegal, that their data will not be accepted by their accounting firm, that it will not be accepted by the tax agencies of the government, that no excuse will be accepted, that the company will be de-listed as a result, or that they will be personally held liable for tax fraud as a result of this.
Why should they listen to your *opinion* when at the end of the day, to them, the system works?
At the end of the day, the company execs aren't going to prison, the corporate assets seized and liquidated, etc.
> I don't know if the general public will ever understand that.
They might not. They don't seem to understand that a person who is good a Math might be bad at Arithmetic, either. The big problem here, is that it may be possible that people are not being led to Mathematics *because* they do not show an aptitude for Arithmetic.
I think sets and logic should be taught, starting at kindergarten, as a fully distinct subject from "Math".
Even the most English-literate Chinese make this kind of error. When you can write an article in some dialect of Chinese without the slightest error, start throwing stones.
Well... It occurs to me that if people in free countries that had less restrictive copyright laws were to be innovative and industrious and create these types of devices themselves, it would not be a problem.
Truly random might have flaws of its own. A random sequence will necessarily include an arbitrary number of zeros, the text of hamlet, and the digits of pi at some point in the sequence. If your RNG gives results in this area, are you going to use it, or are you going to arbitrarily adjust it? How and when do you make the decision?
It gets sold by the truckload by liquidators. They will buy entire office-fulls of furniture and equipment. Sometimes it will be auctioned off, and whatever doesn't sell in the first round of auction gets sold as a huge lot. People are dealing with aggregate volumes, and really don't care about individual items. Oh sure, they are pretty savvy, and you aren't going to see a good Herman Miller chair, or even a piece of cubicle partition going for $5.00. But sometimes a nice piece gets through and you can get lucky.
Something like a disc drive? An untested disc? Under 100GB? Forget it. Nobody is going to even take one out of the box of pulled drives to look at it. Stuff moves by the truckload, or not at all.
In the old days it was easy -- put the 5.25" floppy in the shredder. But in those days, disk drives costs as much as luxury cars, so the idea of destroying one never occurred to anyone. Now you will see discpac platters in display cases, museum pieces. I sometimes wonder what kind of information might still reside on those things. Somewhere in a mini-warehouse there is a file box of 8" floppies with somebody's very embarrassing files from a Wang word processor.
Nothing would surprise me. Once at a flea market I came across an old couple who were selling some guy's really huge collection of personal erotic photos. Guy must have had a club in vegas or something. It was really weird to see his private collection all on display, and really *super* weird that it was an old lady and old man (different guy, I made sure of it!) selling all the stuff. I mean, everything from photo sets that were obviously stripper auditions, to party pictures, to artistic porn. Also the biggest collection of "burlesque" LP's I've ever seen. Hundreds of records of stripper music, bawdy songs, you name it. Vintage girlie mags, and also, a really big collection of what I can only describe as respectable academic books on sexuality. Oh, and novelty stuff of course. The guy must have been a complete perv, but flipping through his photo albums, he sure seems to have gotten enough action to justify it.
I had put this out of my mind until someone mentioned "flea market". I can't think of anything that's every been weirder than an old (and I mean, 80-something) lady apologizing that most of the sex magazines were already sold...
>Damn, I've been going to the wrong flea markets....all I ever see a vinyl records, and rusted tools.
I rarely see records at all, not even uninteresting ones. Plenty of rusty and otherwise useless tools, though, many acres of them. Mostly crafts. I don't know why people think there's a huge market for christmassy bird houses, scented carved apples, spinny hanging op-art things cut out of copper, and miniature rocking chairs, but there's literally tons of it.
"You know, people complain about this being a litigious society, but really, the reason is because law enforcement is doing NOTHING to pursue clear violations like this, which are happening more and more often. "
I for one am pretty glad that "Law Enforcement" doesn't look to Slashdot to decide what cases to pursue.
>How many times have you seen hard drives for sale at a flea market?
That would be every time I've been. There are a few competing "computer guys" who rarely have anything of much interest to a bona fide geek, and whose new-ish stuff isn't even attractively priced against retail, let alone mail order... But one thing they do have plenty of, is pulled hard drives. Pulled drives, and 15" CRTs. The guy with all the IBM Model "M" keyboards got savvy after I bought a couple for $5. Now they are $15 regardless of condition (forget it). Lots of cases with no hardware, lots of PCI mobos, big jars and plastic shoeboxes filled with old RAM chips, you get the idea. What they really want to do is hook you into the flea market idea, but sell you a pre-built system with the flea market being just another outlet for their pretty grimy storefronts. I imagine they do better on Ebay than on the street.
But to the original point, I'm sure the really large stack of drives contains data. Certainly nobody in that scene cares enough that they would put any effort into formatting them. Where do you think all the 486's went in the office liquidations, anyway?
>May be you should work on increasing the weight of your copyrights, instead of attacking copyrights of others.
I'm not attacking anything, just pointing out the inherent injustice in a system where a corporation can force people out of business, have the put in jail, etc., and individuals cannot.
A first-generation XBox is a lot more interesting than a 386 in 2006.
I went to Costco yesterday and saw that XBox 360's are readily available. Guess if I get a wild hair for the new driving game I might buy one.
You're making fun of me, I realize, but I've had my XBox for a few years. Would never have paid regular retial price for it. Do you have a problem with that?
I've been to Seattle lots and I didn't think it was so bad.
On the other hand, I approve of some of the things you are opposed to. For example, I would (and did) vote in favor of the smoking ban in my state. And I support strong regulation of the sales of alcohol. I don't care one way or another about strip clubs, maybe you should write your representatives or something.
As for Amazon and Microsoft being the only companies in the Northwest, well, that's laughably wrong.
There are lots of people who LOVE Seattle. If you're not one of them, maybe you would be happier if you moved elsewhere.
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No mention of whether he actually ran Spybot S&D, the first (and often final) step for anyone serious about eliminating spyware from a Windows install (but not serious enough to isolate critical machines from any network.)
I have a small number of friends who were born in China. I help them with their English when I can. I explain idiomatic expressions, teach them slang, and I proofread their papers. One of my friends learned English in Georgia. So her English has a Deep South accent, with a lot of expressions that are distinctly Southern, together with a lot of expressions that are distinctly from what I would call an African American dialect. I don't want to come across as racist here, and I am certainly not a linguistics researcher, just trying to describe a phenomenon.
She learned English in a public school in Georgia, where a certain dialect prevails, and most of her peers were black teenagers in a segregated society. I find the results rather interesting...
"Calculus is okay, but set thoery and basic logic is the math that CS majors should be required to master in college. "
There's surely not a CS major out there that doesn't have at least 2 semesters of discrete math, requires at least single variable integration, and at least some elective that gets deep into algorithms, which means the typical CS major gets a LOT more experience writing proofs than people in other sciences, aside from math (which is a science.)
>Spreadsheets were never designed for data storage, databases were
Spreadsheets don't save persistent data? Databases magically ensure data integrity?
"Seriously though, I'm not surprised. It's not just financial spreadsheets that are going to cause these kinds of problems. "
Am I the only one who remembers the bad old days before even Visicalc? People honestly think the current systems are more error-prone than their predecessors?
"Linked spreadsheets are not intended as an enterprise application. But do they listen?"
Of course not. You know why? Because you cannot tell them that what they are doing is illegal, that their data will not be accepted by their accounting firm, that it will not be accepted by the tax agencies of the government, that no excuse will be accepted, that the company will be de-listed as a result, or that they will be personally held liable for tax fraud as a result of this.
Why should they listen to your *opinion* when at the end of the day, to them, the system works?
At the end of the day, the company execs aren't going to prison, the corporate assets seized and liquidated, etc.
Is Dick Cheney a Gamer or a Hitman?
> Of course, we know how that turned out.
Yes! Now they are telling people not to go into physics because politics has made physics nearly impossible to pursue.
> I don't know if the general public will ever understand that.
They might not. They don't seem to understand that a person who is good a Math might be bad at Arithmetic, either.
The big problem here, is that it may be possible that people are not being led to Mathematics *because* they do not show an aptitude for Arithmetic.
I think sets and logic should be taught, starting at kindergarten, as a fully distinct subject from "Math".
Even the most English-literate Chinese make this kind of error.
When you can write an article in some dialect of Chinese without
the slightest error, start throwing stones.
Well... It occurs to me that if people in free countries that had less restrictive copyright laws were to be innovative and industrious and create these types of devices themselves, it would not be a problem.
>How can you measure efficiency if the guy works at home? That's the problem.
Some jobs have a direct, measurable effect on the bottom line. Bet they aren't the ones being cut.
Truly random might have flaws of its own. A random sequence will necessarily include an arbitrary number of zeros, the text of hamlet, and the digits of pi at some point in the sequence. If your RNG gives results in this area, are you going to use it, or are you going to arbitrarily adjust it? How and when do you make the decision?
>Uhhhh, just how accountable is the corporate software?
Let's see the contract and let a jury decide the level of performance to the contract, and you will have an answer for a specific instance.
"You can't crack them. Unless, of course, you or a cohort has devised a way to crack a one time pad short of stealing the mat."
Just how good is the RNG that was used to generate the OTP?
c.) you are dating a woman who actually wants the perfume and handbags that are sold at flea markets.
>How did this thing end up at a flea market?
It gets sold by the truckload by liquidators. They will buy entire office-fulls of furniture and equipment.
Sometimes it will be auctioned off, and whatever doesn't sell in the first round of auction gets sold as a huge lot.
People are dealing with aggregate volumes, and really don't care about individual items. Oh sure, they are pretty savvy, and you aren't going to see a good Herman Miller chair, or even a piece of cubicle partition going for $5.00.
But sometimes a nice piece gets through and you can get lucky.
Something like a disc drive? An untested disc? Under 100GB? Forget it. Nobody is going to even take one out of the box of pulled drives to look at it. Stuff moves by the truckload, or not at all.
>My old HDs always end up at the shooting range for target practice.
My range will barely let us shoot anything but paper, although I have done jugs of water.
>I've got a couple on my desk at work with holes strait through.
I use cartridge box inserts for various things like pencil holders.
Occasionally someone recognizes what they are.
In the old days it was easy -- put the 5.25" floppy in the shredder. But in those days, disk drives costs as much as luxury cars, so the idea of destroying one never occurred to anyone. Now you will see discpac platters in display cases, museum pieces. I sometimes wonder what kind of information might still reside on those things. Somewhere in a mini-warehouse there is a file box of 8" floppies with somebody's very embarrassing files from a Wang word processor.
Nothing would surprise me. Once at a flea market I came across an old couple who were selling some guy's really huge collection of personal erotic photos. Guy must have had a club in vegas or something. It was really weird to see his private collection all on display, and really *super* weird that it was an old lady and old man (different guy, I made sure of it!) selling all the stuff. I mean, everything from photo sets that were obviously stripper auditions, to party pictures, to artistic porn. Also the biggest collection of "burlesque" LP's I've ever seen. Hundreds of records of stripper music, bawdy songs, you name it. Vintage girlie mags, and also, a really big collection of what I can only describe as respectable academic books on sexuality. Oh, and novelty stuff of course. The guy must have been a complete perv, but flipping through his photo albums, he sure seems to have gotten enough action to justify it.
I had put this out of my mind until someone mentioned "flea market". I can't think of anything that's every been weirder than an old (and I mean, 80-something) lady apologizing that most of the sex magazines were already sold...
>Damn, I've been going to the wrong flea markets....all I ever see a vinyl records, and rusted tools.
I rarely see records at all, not even uninteresting ones. Plenty of rusty and otherwise useless tools, though, many acres of them. Mostly crafts. I don't know why people think there's a huge market for christmassy bird houses, scented carved apples, spinny hanging op-art things cut out of copper, and miniature rocking chairs, but there's literally tons of it.
"You know, people complain about this being a litigious society, but really, the reason is because law enforcement is doing NOTHING to pursue clear violations like this, which are happening more and more often.
"
I for one am pretty glad that "Law Enforcement" doesn't look to Slashdot to decide what cases to pursue.
>How many times have you seen hard drives for sale at a flea market?
That would be every time I've been. There are a few competing "computer guys" who rarely have anything of much interest to a bona fide geek, and whose new-ish stuff isn't even attractively priced against retail, let alone mail order... But one thing they do have plenty of, is pulled hard drives. Pulled drives, and 15" CRTs. The guy with all the IBM Model "M" keyboards got savvy after I bought a couple for $5. Now they are $15 regardless of condition (forget it).
Lots of cases with no hardware, lots of PCI mobos, big jars and plastic shoeboxes filled with old RAM chips, you get the idea. What they really want to do is hook you into the flea market idea, but sell you a pre-built system with the flea market being just another outlet for their pretty grimy storefronts. I imagine they do better on Ebay than on the street.
But to the original point, I'm sure the really large stack of drives contains data. Certainly nobody in that scene cares enough that they would put any effort into formatting them. Where do you think all the 486's went in the office liquidations, anyway?
>May be you should work on increasing the weight of your copyrights, instead of attacking copyrights of others.
I'm not attacking anything, just pointing out the inherent injustice in a system where a corporation can
force people out of business, have the put in jail, etc., and individuals cannot.
A first-generation XBox is a lot more interesting than a 386 in 2006.
I went to Costco yesterday and saw that XBox 360's are readily available.
Guess if I get a wild hair for the new driving game I might buy one.
You're making fun of me, I realize, but I've had my XBox for a few years. Would never have paid regular retial price for it. Do you have a problem with that?
>What the fuck are you talking about????
I've been to Seattle lots and I didn't think it was so bad.
On the other hand, I approve of some of the things you are opposed to.
For example, I would (and did) vote in favor of the smoking ban in my state.
And I support strong regulation of the sales of alcohol. I don't care one way
or another about strip clubs, maybe you should write your representatives or something.
As for Amazon and Microsoft being the only companies in the Northwest, well, that's
laughably wrong.
There are lots of people who LOVE Seattle. If you're not one of them, maybe you would be happier
if you moved elsewhere.