"So I can use GPLed software as much as I like, without agreeing to or following the GPL at all so long as I do not ever distribute the software?"
Yep. Exactly so.
"Just what exactly gives you the right to use the software?"
If you have a book in your hands, what gives you the right to read it?
You shouldn't frame the question this way -- it implies that there is some conceivable mechanism that could exist which would abridge your right to read.
>Insofar as the GPL is unenforceable, all EULAs >are unenforceable (because that's all the GPL >is: a software license like any other).
I get tired of reading about how this-and-that lacks merit because "it's never been tested in court." My lease with my landlord hasn't been tested in court either, but I don't think that gets me or the landlord out of any of the obligations in the agreement. Because the basis of every clause in that contract HAS been established in court and in legislation.
Likewise the basis of copyright law which is relevant to a software license is quite well-tested. The whole notion that "the GPL has never been tested in court" is misinformation at best, and is just more FUD.
When a license is based on copyright law, it's ludicrous to claim that "it's never been tested" and it's irresponsible to proceed as if that lack of "testing" is a green light to simply violate it's terms however you see fit.
If you actually set your business plan so that you've said in writing that you are going to routinely violate laws and just pay the fines as you go, the execs are opening themselves up to racketeering charges.
Somehow I don't expect to see this in any quarterly report or on any SEC documents.
What do you mean "nobody complains"? I remember it being a massive scandal. Lots of people complained on all sides, from anti-breast to anti-censorship to wtf?
It's only Civil Disobedience if you're willing to suffer the consequences of your actions. You have to be willing to get arrested, otherwise it's just cowardly mayhem.
Use that energy and those resources towards something that *can* be accomplished. Get a decent candidate on one of the major party tickets. Don't just think about the president, do this at the local level and work your way up.
>Kind of sucks really, but he's committed to >helping people.
So long as he leaves the things on silent mode, there's no problem. Although it's accident-prone, and it only takes one oscillator to truly ruin a performance. When you ruin a live music performance, you are ruining the performer's life.
It's not at all clear to me that the urgency of your uncle's patients' mental health is a greater need than the need of the performer for audience decorum. I submit that it is not.
Buried here is the assumption that there is an emergency worth ruining my performance, or any concert or play. As far as I am concerned, there is not. First, I don't believe that at the other end of any phone call that terminates in a concert hall, there is a life or death situation, or at least, not one that can be dealt with appropriately in that situation.
Forget about "jamming" technology! I just want something that makes them ALL RING. Sweep the house with that before each act and during intermissions.
"If the developers are still employed making new games, the old games being available for free hurts them because it gives people an alternative to buying the new game. It hurts the game vendors the same way."
With that argument, Metallica can criticize me for listening to baroque music and 19th century opera.
As long as they release a DVD set, I'll be all about it.
The problem with the Sci-Fi channel is, my local cable company refuses to carry it. I think I can get it if I go with the expensive digital cable. Or maybe if I get a dish thing. Not going to happen. But I will buy the DVD set the minute it's available. I really like they way they did Dune. I heard rumors (here on/.) that there was supposed to be a Children of Dune. Ah. Bought it on amazon while typing this. I see it as a failure of marketing if I have to go looking for something...
Anyway, I won't be seeing this on SciFi channel, but I'll sure buy the DVD.
I don't know why I hold out hope, but, is the framebuffer console fixed yet for Radeon, Trident, or Geforce?
I can settle for vesafb for radeon and trident, but even the vesafb doesn't work for the Nforce chip on my shuttle SN41G2.
This sucks, because I really need 160 column consoles, I'm tired of being told I should "just use Xterms", and I've been complaining about it since 2.5.x.
If you're hourly/non-exempt, and you've been asked to report hours different from those worked, tell your Social Security office. They will be more interested than you think, and there will be much quicker action than you'd ever expect from a government agency!
See, it turns out that when they adjust the clock, they aren't just screwing YOU, but they are committing an act of tax evasion.
The jail you go to for tax evasion doesn't have a golf course, if you get my drift.
Social Security wants their money, and if your paycheck and timecard don't add up for their bit, they tend to get pretty upset. If a company institutionalizes this sort of fraud, it could easily be the end of them. Seriously. You don't want to be caught cheating the tax folks, plain and simple.
In the history of human space travel, has there ever been a spacewalk accident? Okay, so the last walk was stopped due to a suit malfunction. But has anyone ever died on a spacewalk? Or even been injured? For that matter, who has ever died in space, as opposed to launch or re-entry?
Ah, I thought I remembered a snag. Installing Linux blocks you from XBox Live.
I also wonder if the arms race has escalated since the FAQ was written -- who knows if things are the same? Will they be the same on the new, lower price models?
If I look for MechAssault, how do I know I have the version with the hole? (I can't imagine that a *current* run of this game doesn't have the defect!)
Don't get me wrong, I'd like to install linux on my xbox just for the hell of it. If I could make one work as a file/print server, I might even be tempted to replace my mini-itx file/print server. But I don't want to waste time and money on it unless I can be sure it'll work.
"If this guy still has a shirt on his back I'm not satisfied. I want this individual homeless, destitute and vomiting in a gutter while soiling his only pair of underwear, forced to consist on canned meat and maddog."
I'd settle for a Mitnick-style ban on the use of technology!
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"So I can use GPLed software as much as I like, without agreeing to or following the GPL at all so long as I do not ever distribute the software?"
Yep. Exactly so.
"Just what exactly gives you the right to use the software?"
If you have a book in your hands, what gives you the right to read it?
You shouldn't frame the question this way -- it implies that there is some conceivable mechanism that could exist which would abridge your right to read.
>Insofar as the GPL is unenforceable, all EULAs
>are unenforceable (because that's all the GPL
>is: a software license like any other).
I get tired of reading about how this-and-that lacks merit because "it's never been tested in court." My lease with my landlord hasn't been tested in court either, but I don't think that gets me or the landlord out of any of the obligations in the agreement. Because the basis of every clause in that contract HAS been established in court and in legislation.
Likewise the basis of copyright law which is relevant to a software license is quite well-tested. The whole notion that "the GPL has never been tested in court" is misinformation at best, and is just more FUD.
When a license is based on copyright law, it's ludicrous to claim that "it's never been tested" and it's irresponsible to proceed as if that lack of "testing" is a green light to simply violate it's terms however you see fit.
If you actually set your business plan so that you've said in writing that you are going to routinely violate laws and just pay the fines as you go, the execs are opening themselves up to racketeering charges.
Somehow I don't expect to see this in any quarterly report or on any SEC documents.
>That is censorship, and nobody complains.
What do you mean "nobody complains"? I remember it being a massive scandal. Lots of people complained on all sides, from anti-breast to anti-censorship to wtf?
>Civil disobedience is justified in some cases
It's only Civil Disobedience if you're willing to suffer the consequences of your actions. You have to be willing to get arrested, otherwise it's just cowardly mayhem.
>Get rid of the Electoral College.
The massive effort that would take... nevermind.
Use that energy and those resources towards something that *can* be accomplished. Get a decent candidate on one of the major party tickets. Don't just think about the president,
do this at the local level and work your way up.
After all, that's really all *They* are doing.
> Am I the only that has a problem with that?
Yes. All the rest of us are blissfully happy with the status quo.
>Kind of sucks really, but he's committed to
>helping people.
So long as he leaves the things on silent mode, there's no problem. Although it's accident-prone, and it only takes one oscillator to truly ruin a performance. When you ruin a live music performance, you are ruining the performer's life.
It's not at all clear to me that the urgency of your uncle's patients' mental health is a greater need than the need of the performer for audience decorum. I submit that it is not.
None of you actually get it.
Buried here is the assumption that there is an emergency worth ruining my performance, or any concert or play. As far as I am concerned, there is not. First, I don't believe that at the other end of any phone call that terminates in a concert hall, there is a life or death situation, or at least, not one that can be dealt with appropriately in that situation.
Forget about "jamming" technology! I just want something that makes them ALL RING. Sweep the house with that before each act and during intermissions.
>Yes, it's compressed so it's easy to download,
>but once you've downloaded it you're stuck with
>a 192 kbps (or lower) mp3 file.
It's really not that bad, considering that most pop mixes are compressed (in the audio domain) to 1 or 2 bits of dynamic range anyway.
"What about business people, doctors, police, etc. who need these devices to work?"
They don't need them to work in the concert hall where I'm playing piano.
No, they don't.
"If the developers are still employed making new games, the old games being available for free hurts them because it gives people an alternative to buying the new game. It hurts the game vendors the same way."
With that argument, Metallica can criticize me for listening to baroque music and 19th century opera.
As long as they release a DVD set, I'll be all about it.
/.) that there was supposed to be a Children of Dune. Ah. Bought it on amazon while typing this. I see it as a failure of marketing if I have to go looking for something...
The problem with the Sci-Fi channel is, my local cable company refuses to carry it. I think I can get it if I go with the expensive digital cable. Or maybe if I get a dish thing. Not going to happen. But I will buy the DVD set the minute it's available. I really like they way they did Dune. I heard rumors (here on
Anyway, I won't be seeing this on SciFi channel, but I'll sure buy the DVD.
"USians have been brainwashed by their own cultural propaganda machine (Hollywood) to the point where US=good is never questioned. "
The view is reinforced by the rest of the world, when no meaningful opposition is ever raised against the actions of the US.
I don't know why I hold out hope, but, is the framebuffer console fixed yet for Radeon, Trident, or Geforce?
I can settle for vesafb for radeon and trident, but even the vesafb doesn't work for the Nforce chip on my shuttle SN41G2.
This sucks, because I really need 160 column consoles, I'm tired of being told I should "just use Xterms", and I've been complaining about it since 2.5.x.
If you're hourly/non-exempt, and you've been asked to report hours different from those worked, tell your Social Security office. They will be more interested than you think, and there will be much quicker action than you'd ever expect from a government agency!
See, it turns out that when they adjust the clock, they aren't just screwing YOU, but they are committing an act of tax evasion.
The jail you go to for tax evasion doesn't have a golf course, if you get my drift.
Social Security wants their money, and if your paycheck and timecard don't add up for their bit, they tend to get pretty upset. If a company institutionalizes this sort of fraud, it could easily be the end of them. Seriously. You don't want to be caught cheating the tax folks, plain and simple.
>Yes, a walk outside isn't very safe either
In the history of human space travel, has there ever been a spacewalk accident? Okay, so the last walk was stopped due to a suit malfunction.
But has anyone ever died on a spacewalk? Or even been injured? For that matter, who has ever died in space, as opposed to launch or re-entry?
"Don't joke about this. When politicians want to tax, they can get very creative and very strange."
They might seem strange, but, they usually get at least one thing right: They look to collect taxes where money is changing hands.
The dumbest politician on the planet knows better than to try to get blood from a turnip.
It won't be good for your political career if you're the MoP or Congressman who pushed through a tax act that results in negative revenue.
I'm so tired of April 1 though. I couldn't even digest the mainstream news today.
>There are no rules to a gunfight!!!
Actually there is one: Don't show up at a gunfight armed with a knife.
>See a shuttle launch. Highlight of the trip.
For some, that would be the highlight of the whole life.
>To my knowledge Babbage started working on
>theory prior to Zuse's first computer, the Z1,
>was completed.
You are aware that Zuse and Babbage were not contemporaries? Babbage was a half century in the grave before Zuse was born.
It was because of the failure of Zues' design that the third reich ended up buying tabulating machines from IBM...
Ah, I thought I remembered a snag. Installing Linux blocks you from XBox Live.
I also wonder if the arms race has escalated since the FAQ was written -- who knows if things are the same? Will they be the same on the new, lower price models?
If I look for MechAssault, how do I know I have the version with the hole? (I can't imagine that a *current* run of this game doesn't have the defect!)
Don't get me wrong, I'd like to install linux on my xbox just for the hell of it. If I could make one work as a file/print server, I might even be tempted to replace my mini-itx file/print server. But I don't want to waste time and money on it unless I can be sure it'll work.
This is standard, boring stuff.
Wake me up when a Word document ends a political career or starts a revolution.
"If this guy still has a shirt on his back I'm not satisfied. I want this individual homeless, destitute and vomiting in a gutter while soiling his only pair of underwear, forced to consist on canned meat and maddog."
I'd settle for a Mitnick-style ban on the use of technology!
Anybody else here immediately think "The Humble Guys" when they see THG?