>>Oh that's right, you did realize that the GPL >>is/completely/ untested in the legal realm, >>didn't you?
Lots of specific contracts haven't been sued over, but that does not make them "/completely/" untested. The lease on my townhouse was written by my landlord, and hasn't been tested in court. Does that get me out of paying my rent?
The agreement by the local welder that he will fix my muffler for $55.00 hasn't been tested in court either.
There are LOTS of contracts out there that are legally binding, regardless of the fact that they haven't been sued over. If the system is such that in order for a license to be valid, someone must first be raked over the coals by it, that's news to me.
>What's the point of paying the extra $ to get a >Qube instead of a regular IA-32
How about those of us who already have Cobalt hardware and are bored with the software that comes with it? Sometimes the money isn't a concern at all.
Squid and the Calculator URL
on
Quickielanche
·
· Score: 2
Has anyone had any luck getting squid to accept the URL for the Calculator link? Is the problem that it really isn't a valid string for URL->URI translation, or whatever?
"I don't really consider one dollar to be much of a payoff, do you?" The way many contracts are drawn, the wording "...one dollar and other valuable consideration..." is quite common. This is absolutely the norm in Oil and Gas leases. It's done because the amount that was negotiated can be considered separately from the property or whatever the contract is about. If you bought an oil lease for a couple million, the title would probably say one dollar. Tax implications, and privacy concerns prevail. It may be a matter of public record that a piece of property was transferred, but only the taxman and the accountant need to know how much was spent.
"You can ONLY buy parts for a Volvo from a Volvo dealer."
Body parts, and things that aren't normally worn by use, maybe.
But there are a lot of Bosch parts in your volvo. You don't think you can get an entire aftermaket exhaust for your 240? Under the impression that a well-stocked Euro auto parts store doesn't have repair parts? Or that Volvo is unique among car makers and does not use any parts that from outside vendors and not in volvo factories?
Where did you get your information? Your assertion is not true, not even in Sweden.
Now, perhaps I've misuderstood you.
Did you mean "You cannot buy FORD parts from a Volvo Dealer" or did you mean "You cannot buy Volvo parts anywhere besides a Volvo dealer?" And, except for the fact that the parts counter has a pc on in, and the database of the parts probably runs on a unix box, what does this have to do with the PC market?
In the Real World, the hype always exceeds and precedes the reality. It's possible that the design of a component, while workable, is so bad as to be potentially embarrassing. This is not an uncommon reason for a company to balk at the concept of "open source."
"Wire recordings have the advantage that they can last forever... it's just a stainless steel wire. no plastic base to deteriorate. No oxide to flake off. Just smooth, corrosion-proof, stainless steel."
It's my understanding this is what flight recorders are based on. If that is so, is the medium dead yet?
I also seem to remember an episode of Hogan's Heroes where they used one of these things...
>Being relatively new to the world of *nix, >is the installer for this new BSD or any other >fairly "friendly"?
It sounds like you're ahead of the curve (i.e., clueful of what to do at a shell prompt, knows the what and why of disk partitioning at least for workstation configs, won't totally freak out if you have to add your HorzSync and VertRefresh to/etc/X11/XF86Config or download a XFree server binary...)
The installer for freebsd is a fairly friendly dialog-based script; the packages are tar.gz's. Check the supported hardware before you even start though, as you should do for any os.
There are a few potential snags, but if you thought installing suse and slackware was easy, you'll be able to install freebsd in your sleep.
> Well, since the Gimp is open source, it should > be possible for somebody to add this in.
Problem with that:
The very process of pre-press colour management is patented and controlled by the industry in other ways. The pantone system, for example, is an industry standard method of converting additive colours to their subtractive equivalents. Unfortunately, even if you can work this into your free software, you cannot call it pantone. That's okay for some situations (I need cmyk for my colour laser printer, e.g.), but it's not going to fly for professional prepress.
This is not just a matter of working a translation layer for colour into the software. There is an intellectual property issue. Even if you could do a colour separation with Gimp, you cannot use the results professionally without licensing which we cannot obtain.
For web publishing, that's fine, since all we need for computer monitors is RGB+alpha. For hard publishing, it's altogether another story, and not a trivial matter at all.
The printer needs to know, for a given ink and paper on a given press, how a colour is defined. If I have a press in michigan and a press in new york both printing the same book, magazine, cd cover, or what-have-you, I need the colours and ink textures to not only match each other, but also to match as closely as possible the original RGB image. (There are a LOT more colours possible with ink than even the best graphics systems can display, so "closely as possible" means we get the same results from different systems). Just because you have an amazingly accurate flesh tone on your monitor, does not mean that you have the information you need to get that flesh tone onto paper. And even if you could tweak one press or printer to give you the correct tones, you haven't done it for another printer, or even the same printer with different ink.
If you can convince someone like Adobe to release a pantone plugin for gimp, some of this problem will be solved. If you have photoshop, you can do your colour separation with that and use the rgb values for gimp, but do you see something wrong with that picture?
This problem is very similar to the problem with RSA. Someone in a free country could create a NON-US version of Gimp that has CMYK separation capabilities (which isn't hard). *BUT* it could never be legally used in the USA for prepress (commercial or not!) so no one bothers. (At least, the non-us/non-rsaref crypto has a niche where it is useful, so the community delivers that.)
Basically, pointing out the lack of colour standardization as a shortcoming of gimp is not fair to those whose images are not destined for hardcopy press.
I would wager a dollar that most people reading this slashdot article are using gimp to create rgb images which will remain rgb images for their entire life, and that those who criticize the lack of colour standardization in gimp are using something far more sophisticated than gimp for their prepress work.
Furthermore, most of them end up using ONE cmyk value more than any other. (the one for black).
It's not totally fud, but it's not really a fair criticism either. Colour standardization will not magically find it's way into gimp; and it only needs to be there for prepress purposes. Unfortunately, this includes everything from the black ink on your business card to getting your digital photograph on the cover of the Rolling Stone. Basically, if the only tool you have for your digital image is gimp, you won't be getting your picture published, or rather, you will get to pay someone else to put their grubby hands on your image before it gets printed. Do you understand the problem now?
We haven't even touched on the font problem. Have you ever thought about why people who write books benefit from typesetting systems as opposed to word processors? Just because you can make a beautiful antialiased screen font and display it, does not mean that's the way it's going to be rendered by the printing press.
I thought online publishing was taking over anyway. Did the revolution end, or did I miss something? Why are we still printing things on paper? Is it only to keep these patent holders fed?
> It sucks for the admins, too, y'know. Most of >them don't want to be assholes, but it's sheer > self defence.
You just need teeth. e.g., if you do any of those things, our netadmins *know* you did. And you're expelled from the school, fined (and/or your parents are fined), and you get a failing grade for the semester.
It can't just say that in the policy handbook for the school. It has to actually happen, even (especially) if you're the son of the principal or the captain of the football team.
Then you won't have two incidents of people stealing mouse balls or installing virii. You'd have one, the newspaper article about how they were expelled failed and fined prominently framed by the door to the lab, with the empty frame right next to it for the next moron who tries it.
If, as you say, a sysadmin must be a n@z! for self-defense, go all the way with it, or not at all. Otherwise you just create even more motivation for people to mess with you. (They know they'll get away with it.)
"That's nonsense" Don't be so harsh! I think the poster was trying to characterize the fact that, for example, a staccato pizicanto quarter note for a string, might need to be translated from it's standard representation to something shorter, in order to make your midi sound right. Of course, if your synth is any good, you could pick a staccato pizicanto fiddle and send it a quarter note. regards, fishbowl, who just wants a rackmount synth
The banks security responsibility for my browser ends at the transport encryption. They have done two things that really irritate me: The webpage says that browsers 4.something and later are acceptable, and also, specifically says that 4.72 netscape is allowed, when it isn't yet. I think they should allow any browser that can negotiate and ssl connection. If you're worried about what my browser does with it's cache as a liability issue, why aren't you worried about the liability of someone looking over my shoulder while I browse? For that matter, why doesn't anybody see the (10**4) pin for the atm as the weak point of banking security?
>I have a Windows 98 CD here. Does this mean I OWN >Windows and can do > whatever I want with it? I bet the law would >disagree if I started burning > copies and handing 'em out on the street corner
When did "handing [th]em out on the street corner" come into the discussion?
If I copy my windows CD and lock it up in the file cabinet, it's not anyone's business but mine. If I have a copy in my laptop bag and another copy in the CD case, that's a good and necessary, and legal, thing.
kangarooski: ``At any rate, GIMP has absolutely no CYMK support at all.''
It supports the colors and the variances themselves because they are free:-)
The situation is not so bad for the user with svga and a consumer-market inkjet printer. Are we talking about using gimp as the last (or only) step before a 4 color press? Or on a machine that is actually controlling the printing press?
Nothing stops the creative computer user from buying a pantone system, doing a color separation and getting your pallettes from that. Obviously the problem here is the proprietary (and huge) data, troubled with the lack of colordepth of the pc. Downright flat compared to ink. cmyk colorspace is not even a proper superset of rgb. I'm sure it's easy to test this. You can certainly make a more subtle variance in some colors of ink than you can represent in rgb. And rest assured that there are colors that you can display on a monitor that can only be approximated in print. But that's still really not the hard part.
While you can manipulate RGB values to blend colors, the range of the same colors from the printer might not be what you expect, or even blend, and because of this, I suspect the software must support this system at a level a bit more fundamental than paint-by-numbers. The algorithms themselves will have to be aware that transitions between colors must be mappable to the correct colorspace too.
At least print doesn't have to deal with 3-d (much, yet).
Gimp is the free software of the free press, or the cheap press; you can use it for publishing but you do have to do the final color proof by eye (and experience).
No matter what press you run, your color saturation is going to vary in way that will probably never be easy to convert from cmyk to rgb. ("uhh, how will this look with soy ink on rice paper?") They don't claim that it's even possible using only gimp, and make honest recommendations about taking your work to the printer, that makes sense from the starving (or soon to be starving if the print job isnt right) artist no matter what software you use to create your original work.
The give f'n good m about this @ http://manual.gimp.org/manual/GUM/Prepress.html# 449972
On a not-entirely-unrelated point: the pdf's at www.color.com supposedly cannot be read by export versions of ghostview. whazaaaaaaa? I can't even read about this stuff without giving into control.
But, this is process print control, which is rocket science. I know what a bitch it was to use the (analog, manual) color systems on enlargers in the 70's.
kang> there is a lot of support kang> for Photoshop and the Mac, but not for GIMP kang> or Linux.
The penguin hasn't caught up with the applecore in the publishing world (yet).
Hopefully soon we'll have folks running their G4's and osX. Maybe the display will have a real alpha channel, and maybe it'll come with a pantone license. (hmpf, is aqua an xserver? >64 bit colordepth? how about display postscript while you're at it?...)
I imagine it will be nice to run a gtk-based desktop on a g4 powerbook. Somebody, somewhere is working on the mach port of all the stuff the unix world is raving about.
While Gimp hasn't made inroads into the commercial printing world, as you say, I believe it has been literally frisbeed around the world. Didn't need roads. (Well, places without roads usually don't have printing presses, but at least gtk is free).
Yes, I want also want photoshop on my mac!:-) but not without the other tools, including gimp.
Is there a huge culture out there constantly pushing its limits, extending it, improving the interface? Can Joe Blow build modules to extend photoshop?
macnix.com xincam.org
regards,
james "publishing experience extends to band flyers" mcgill
Gnome and KDE are not mutually exclusive packages! At this moment, I am running KDE with Enlightenment as my window manager. I run Gnome applications, and the whole thing looks stunningly like a mac os-X desktop thanks to the Aqua-eMac and Aqua-GTK themes (and the Aqua theme for kde). It's not an either/or choice, unless you had a reason for limiting your choices of applications to one arbitrary list (KDE apps only? Not a good idea 'till 2.0 is ready).
An artist friend came over and ran Gimp for the first time, and with minimal guidance was fully productive with it.
Thus, Linux is ready for *MY* desktop, which may or may not represent *THE* desktop to some extent.
Back in the 80's when I worked for Radio Shack, I was often asked to report fewer hours on my timesheet than I actually worked, so that the store's "dollar per hour" statistic would be inflated.
When I got tired of this request, I contacted the Texas Employment Commission. They were *very* interested in my story, and told me that my employer was committing a federal crime by asking me to work hours without reporting them. It was a serious matter, because it cheats Social Security out of some money. I hadn't even thought about them being the party that was harmed.
I don't mind giving names, dates, etc., because I'd still enjoy seeing my former managers doing hard time in the sodomy^W corrections facility for what they did to me.
This was my main reason for quitting Radio Shack, not that it was a good job or anything. Now that I look back on the experience, I look back with great contempt, as I was definitely a victim of workplace abuse, perpertrated systematically by an organization that shamelessly operated under that policy.
"us geeks didn't have the foresight to see this problem, and insist that something other than DNS was used as a primarly lookup mechanism for the WWW. "
Yes we did. Those of us who've been around since, oh, the early 90's most certainly did see this problem. What do you suggest that we should have done to "insist?"
Walk out on our cool sysadmin jobs at our internet startups? We ALL had to implicitly agree to be active participants in the death of the internet as we knew it, in order to make money doing what we did (Bringing wire to the masses!)
Insist in one hand and sh!t in the other, see which one fills up first.
DNS was never the problem in and of itself. The idea that everybody needs their own 2nd level zonefile was flawed, and who's to blame for that?
Don't be so absolute! It's not a question of being either limited or unlimited, but a comment on the fact that there are relatively few selections available. In case you haven't noticed, there is already quite a market (and grey/black market) for digital music, that does not involve sony. And there is already a certain expectation for the variety and number of selections that one my expect from such a service. Thus the comment was meant to say that Sony's selection is limited, in comparison to what we're already used to seeing.
Perhaps being slashdotted will make them realize that while there may be a minority of visually impaired customers, they certainly create a sense of outrage by being so callous.
But, this being America, nothing short of losing a multimillion dollar lawsuit will convince them of anything.
Slashdot Mirror
> I support huge printers (DocuTech 135 and
>6135), and recommend running them above 100
> degrees F.
Of course you recommend that!! If they didn't
overheat you'd be out of business!
>>Oh that's right, you did realize that the GPL /completely/ untested in the legal realm,
>>is
>>didn't you?
Lots of specific contracts haven't been sued over,
but that does not make them "/completely/" untested. The lease on my townhouse was written
by my landlord, and hasn't been tested in court.
Does that get me out of paying my rent?
The agreement by the local welder that he will fix
my muffler for $55.00 hasn't been tested in court either.
There are LOTS of contracts out there that are legally binding, regardless of the fact that they
haven't been sued over. If the system is such that in order for a license to be valid, someone must first be raked over the coals by it, that's
news to me.
The issue cleared itself up presently
Was the responsible party called before a
tribunal and allowed to go through the motions
of explaining himself before his execution?
Or was he allowed to live, to darken your
door another day?
>What's the point of paying the extra $ to get a >Qube instead of a regular IA-32
How about those of us who already have Cobalt hardware and are bored with the software that
comes with it? Sometimes the money isn't a concern at all.
Has anyone had any luck getting squid to accept the URL for the Calculator link? Is the problem
that it really isn't a valid string for URL->URI translation, or whatever?
"I don't really consider one dollar to be much of a payoff, do you?" The way many contracts are drawn, the wording "...one dollar and other valuable consideration..." is quite common. This is absolutely the norm in Oil and Gas leases. It's done because the amount that was negotiated can be considered separately from the property or whatever the contract is about. If you bought an oil lease for a couple million, the title would probably say one dollar. Tax implications, and privacy concerns prevail. It may be a matter of public record that a piece of property was transferred, but only the taxman and the accountant need to know how much was spent.
"You can ONLY buy parts for a Volvo from a Volvo dealer."
Body parts, and things that aren't normally worn by use, maybe.
But there are a lot of Bosch parts in your volvo.
You don't think you can get an entire aftermaket
exhaust for your 240? Under the impression that
a well-stocked Euro auto parts store doesn't have
repair parts? Or that Volvo is unique among car makers and does not use any parts that from outside vendors and not in volvo factories?
Where did you get your information? Your assertion is not true, not even in Sweden.
Now, perhaps I've misuderstood you.
Did you mean "You cannot buy FORD parts from a Volvo Dealer" or did you mean "You cannot buy Volvo parts anywhere besides a Volvo dealer?"
And, except for the fact that the parts counter has a pc on in, and the database of the parts probably runs on a unix box, what does this have
to do with the PC market?
In the Real World, the hype always exceeds and precedes the reality.
It's possible that the design of a component, while workable, is so bad as to be potentially embarrassing. This is not an uncommon reason for a company to balk at the concept of "open source."
"Wire recordings have the advantage that they can last forever
steel wire. no plastic base to deteriorate. No oxide to flake off. Just smooth,
corrosion-proof, stainless steel."
It's my understanding this is what flight recorders are based on. If that is so, is the medium dead yet?
I also seem to remember an episode of Hogan's Heroes where they used one of these things...
>Being relatively new to the world of *nix,
/etc/X11/XF86Config or download a XFree server binary...)
>is the installer for this new BSD or any other
>fairly "friendly"?
It sounds like you're ahead of the curve (i.e., clueful of what to do at a shell prompt, knows
the what and why of disk partitioning at least for workstation configs, won't totally freak out if you have to add your HorzSync and VertRefresh to
The installer for freebsd is a fairly friendly dialog-based script; the packages are tar.gz's.
Check the supported hardware before you even start though, as you should do for any os.
There are a few potential snags, but if you thought installing suse and slackware was easy, you'll be able to install freebsd in your sleep.
>NT evolves more
> toward Unix every day.
In the world I live in, it's years between NT Releases; months between service packs.
Not that I wouldn't love to see this daily evolution of course...
> Well, since the Gimp is open source, it should
> be possible for somebody to add this in.
Problem with that:
The very process of pre-press colour management is patented and controlled by the industry in other ways. The pantone system, for example, is an industry standard method of converting additive colours to their subtractive equivalents. Unfortunately, even if you can work this into your free software, you cannot call it pantone. That's okay for some situations (I need cmyk for my colour laser printer, e.g.), but it's not going to fly for professional prepress.
This is not just a matter of working a translation layer for colour into the software. There is an intellectual property issue. Even if you could do a colour separation with Gimp, you cannot use the results professionally without licensing which we cannot obtain.
For web publishing, that's fine, since all we need for computer monitors is RGB+alpha. For hard publishing, it's altogether another story, and not a trivial matter at all.
The printer needs to know, for a given ink and paper on a given press, how a colour is defined. If I have a press in michigan and a press in new york both printing the same book, magazine, cd cover, or what-have-you, I need the colours and ink textures to not only match each other, but also to match as closely as possible the original RGB image. (There are a LOT more colours possible with ink than even the best graphics systems can display, so "closely as possible" means we get the same results from different systems). Just because you have an amazingly accurate flesh tone on your monitor, does not mean that you have the information you need to get that flesh tone onto paper. And even if you could tweak one press or printer to give you the correct tones, you haven't done it for another printer, or even the same printer with different ink.
If you can convince someone like Adobe to release a pantone plugin for gimp, some of this problem will be solved. If you have photoshop, you can do your colour separation with that and use the rgb values for gimp, but do you see something wrong with that picture?
This problem is very similar to the problem with RSA. Someone in a free country could create a NON-US version of Gimp that has CMYK separation capabilities (which isn't hard). *BUT* it could never be legally used in the USA for prepress (commercial or not!) so no one bothers. (At least, the non-us/non-rsaref crypto has a niche where it is useful, so the community delivers that.)
Basically, pointing out the lack of colour standardization as a shortcoming of gimp is not fair to those whose images are not destined for hardcopy press.
I would wager a dollar that most people reading this slashdot article are using gimp to create rgb images which will remain rgb images for their entire life, and that those who criticize the lack of colour standardization in gimp are using something far more sophisticated than gimp for their prepress work.
Furthermore, most of them end up using ONE cmyk value more than any other. (the one for black).
It's not totally fud, but it's not really a fair criticism either. Colour standardization will not magically find it's way into gimp; and it only needs to be there for prepress purposes. Unfortunately, this includes everything from the black ink on your business card to getting your digital photograph on the cover of the Rolling Stone. Basically, if the only tool you have for your digital image is gimp, you won't be getting your picture published, or rather, you will get to pay someone else to put their grubby hands on your image before it gets printed. Do you understand the problem now?
We haven't even touched on the font problem. Have you ever thought about why people who write books benefit from typesetting systems as opposed to word processors? Just because you can make a beautiful antialiased screen font and display it, does not mean that's the way it's going to be rendered by the printing press.
I thought online publishing was taking over anyway. Did the revolution end, or did I miss something? Why are we still printing things on paper? Is it only to keep these patent holders fed?
> It sucks for the admins, too, y'know. Most of >them don't want to be assholes, but it's sheer
> self defence.
You just need teeth. e.g., if you do any of those things, our netadmins *know* you did. And you're expelled from the school, fined (and/or your parents are fined), and you get a failing grade for the semester.
It can't just say that in the policy handbook for the school. It has to actually happen, even (especially) if you're the son of the principal or the captain of the football team.
Then you won't have two incidents of people stealing mouse balls or installing virii. You'd have one, the newspaper article about how they were expelled failed and fined prominently framed by the door to the lab, with the empty frame right next to it for the next moron who tries it.
If, as you say, a sysadmin must be a n@z! for self-defense, go all the way with it, or not at all. Otherwise you just create even more motivation for people to mess with you. (They know they'll get away with it.)
"That's nonsense" Don't be so harsh! I think the poster was trying to characterize the fact that, for example, a staccato pizicanto quarter note for a string, might need to be translated from it's standard representation to something shorter, in order to make your midi sound right. Of course, if your synth is any good, you could pick a staccato pizicanto fiddle and send it a quarter note. regards, fishbowl, who just wants a rackmount synth
The banks security responsibility for my browser ends at the transport encryption. They have done two things that really irritate me: The webpage says that browsers 4.something and later are acceptable, and also, specifically says that 4.72 netscape is allowed, when it isn't yet. I think they should allow any browser that can negotiate and ssl connection. If you're worried about what my browser does with it's cache as a liability issue, why aren't you worried about the liability of someone looking over my shoulder while I browse? For that matter, why doesn't anybody see the (10**4) pin for the atm as the weak point of banking security?
>I have a Windows 98 CD here. Does this mean I OWN >Windows and can do
> whatever I want with it? I bet the law would
>disagree if I started burning
> copies and handing 'em out on the street corner
When did "handing [th]em out on the street corner"
come into the discussion?
If I copy my windows CD and lock it up in the file cabinet, it's not anyone's business but mine. If I have a copy in my laptop bag and another copy in the CD case, that's a good and necessary, and legal, thing.
kangarooski:
:-)
# 449972
:-)
``At any rate, GIMP has absolutely no CYMK support at all.''
It supports the colors and the variances themselves because they are free
The situation is not so bad for the user with svga and a consumer-market inkjet printer. Are we talking about using gimp as the last (or only) step before a 4 color press? Or on a machine that is actually controlling the printing press?
Nothing stops the creative computer user from buying a pantone system, doing a color separation and getting your pallettes from that. Obviously the problem here is the proprietary (and huge) data, troubled with the lack of colordepth of the pc. Downright flat compared to ink. cmyk colorspace is not even a proper superset of rgb. I'm sure it's easy to test this. You can certainly make a more subtle variance in some colors of ink than you can represent in rgb.
And rest assured that there are colors that you can display on a monitor that can only be approximated in print. But that's still really not the hard part.
While you can manipulate RGB values to blend colors, the range of the same colors from the printer might not be what you expect, or even blend, and because of this, I suspect the software must support this system at a level a bit more fundamental than paint-by-numbers.
The algorithms themselves will have to be aware that transitions between colors must be mappable to the correct colorspace too.
At least print doesn't have to deal with 3-d (much, yet).
Gimp is the free software of the free press, or the cheap press; you can use it for publishing but you do have to do the final color proof by eye (and experience).
No matter what press you run, your color saturation is going to vary in way that will
probably never be easy to convert from cmyk to rgb. ("uhh, how will this look with soy ink on rice paper?")
They don't claim that it's even possible using only gimp, and make honest recommendations about taking your work to the printer, that makes sense from the starving (or soon to be starving if the print job isnt right) artist no matter what software you use to create your original work.
The give f'n good m about this @
http://manual.gimp.org/manual/GUM/Prepress.html
On a not-entirely-unrelated point: the pdf's at
www.color.com supposedly cannot be read by export versions of ghostview. whazaaaaaaa? I can't even read about this stuff without giving into control.
But, this is process print control, which is rocket science. I know what a bitch it was to use the (analog, manual) color systems on enlargers in the 70's.
kang> there is a lot of support
kang> for Photoshop and the Mac, but not for GIMP
kang> or Linux.
The penguin hasn't caught up with the applecore in the publishing world (yet).
Hopefully soon we'll have folks running their G4's and osX. Maybe the display will have a real alpha channel, and maybe it'll come with a pantone license. (hmpf, is aqua an xserver? >64 bit colordepth? how about display postscript while you're at it?...)
I imagine it will be nice to run a gtk-based desktop on a g4 powerbook. Somebody, somewhere
is working on the mach port of all the stuff the unix world is raving about.
While Gimp hasn't made inroads into the commercial printing world, as you say, I believe it has been literally frisbeed around the world. Didn't need roads. (Well, places without roads usually don't have printing presses, but at least gtk is free).
Yes, I want also want photoshop on my mac!
but not without the other tools, including gimp.
Is there a huge culture out there constantly pushing its limits, extending it, improving the interface? Can Joe Blow build modules to extend photoshop?
macnix.com
xincam.org
regards,
james "publishing experience extends to band flyers" mcgill
>>
>> I know about gnucash, but I do online
>> banking, so Quicken is the only method I have
>> at my disposal.
This is the reason I bought VMWare, and I have not been disappointed.
Gnome and KDE are not mutually exclusive packages!
At this moment, I am running KDE with Enlightenment as my window manager. I run Gnome applications, and the whole thing looks stunningly
like a mac os-X desktop thanks to the Aqua-eMac and Aqua-GTK themes (and the Aqua theme for kde).
It's not an either/or choice, unless you had a reason for limiting your choices of applications to one arbitrary list (KDE apps only? Not a good idea 'till 2.0 is ready).
An artist friend came over and ran Gimp for the first time, and with minimal guidance was fully
productive with it.
Thus, Linux is ready for *MY* desktop, which may or may not represent *THE* desktop to some extent.
To compete, they just need a >2 hour battery life...
Were we lonely and isolated before getting on the net? I was. The net has helped.
Back in the 80's when I worked for Radio Shack,
I was often asked to report fewer hours on my timesheet than I actually worked, so that the store's "dollar per hour" statistic would be inflated.
When I got tired of this request, I contacted the Texas Employment Commission. They were *very* interested in my story, and told me that my employer was committing a federal crime by asking me to work hours without reporting them. It was a serious matter, because it cheats Social Security out of some money. I hadn't even thought about them being the party that was harmed.
I don't mind giving names, dates, etc., because I'd still enjoy seeing my former managers doing hard time in the sodomy^W corrections facility for what they did to me.
This was my main reason for quitting Radio Shack, not that it was a good job or anything. Now that I look back on the experience, I look back with great contempt, as I was definitely a victim of workplace abuse, perpertrated systematically by an organization that shamelessly operated under that policy.
"us geeks didn't
have the foresight to see this problem, and insist that something other than
DNS was used as a primarly lookup mechanism for the WWW. "
Yes we did. Those of us who've been around since, oh, the early 90's most certainly did see this problem. What do you suggest that we should have
done to "insist?"
Walk out on our cool sysadmin jobs at our internet startups? We ALL had to implicitly agree to be active participants in the death of the internet as we knew it, in order to make money doing what we did (Bringing wire to the masses!)
Insist in one hand and sh!t in the other, see which one fills up first.
DNS was never the problem in and of itself. The idea that everybody needs their own 2nd level zonefile was flawed, and who's to blame for that?
Don't be so absolute! It's not a question of being either limited or unlimited, but a comment
on the fact that there are relatively few selections available. In case you haven't noticed, there is already quite a market (and grey/black market) for digital music, that does not involve sony. And there is already a certain expectation for the variety and number of selections that one my expect from such a service. Thus the comment was meant to say that Sony's selection is limited, in comparison to what we're already used to seeing.
Perhaps being slashdotted will make them realize that while there may be a minority of visually impaired customers, they certainly create a sense of outrage by being so callous.
But, this being America, nothing short of losing a multimillion dollar lawsuit will convince them of anything.