1. We "the hacker community" have just been granted class status by a federal judge. This could mean that, in this one district, the "hacker community" has a basis on which to claim class status (e.g., this is the "class" as in "class action")
2. We have perhaps unwittingly become a pawn in the game of strengthening the DMCA. If this is not the first precedent based on the DMCA, it is certainly the most widely read.
If a significant extent of your market research is from slashdot.org, you probably should hesitate before investing in such a venture anyway. In this case, you, not the "community", are your own worst enemy. Slashdot.org may be a popular news forum, but it's hardly useful for measuring anything but it's own effects.
Of course we want support. But you wouldn't have read about how I feel about my own dell laptop which runs linux, or how much I paid for it or how satisfied I am, here on/.
At least a decade ago, I was given some statistics about China (that supposedly were from a very credible source, yadda yadda).
Among them was one about Refrigeration. That far from considering how many Chinese have telephones, televisions, and computers, we should consider how few of them even have refrigeration.
It's likely you've lived in a house with electricity and a refrigerator, and if you're REALLY old, that you had a man bring an ice cube to you on a wagon each day, o maybe you cannot relate to this. But if you can imagine what it must be like to have to get your meat and dairy products on a daily basis, and not have the ability to store food (no leftovers, no frozen pizza!), you probably aren't thinking about whether these people have computers or SDSL lines. Many of them may not even have the certainty they they will have food from one day to the next.
Hmm, you leave out the musicians from your "end users" set.
Most musicians have rackmounted gear: PA Amp, EQ's, Effects, Signal Processors, Midi Synth, power conditioner. It's extremely nice to have the computer on the same rack.
>What's the goal... coolness or organization..
Having your equipment in one piece when it arrives. If you've ever had otherwise, you know the value of that.
For the "end user" who already has some rackmounted equipment, which is far more commonplace than you seem to think, it makes a lot of sense to have everything on the rack, and not have some stuff on the rack, and other stuff that has to be lugged around, put on a table, shipped in a separate crate, etc.
The "living room" comment that you made seems to imply that everybody who is on a budget is also merely a hobbyist, with trivial needs. Believe me, there are many professionals who are also on a budget, yet have real needs for certain things; rackmouted equipment being one of them.
>And the difference between "arrest" and >"imprisonment" being..? Jon is walking around >freely today, afaik. >He's not locked up - he's not arrested:)
He wasn't compensated for the full day spent being "interrogated."
If there was ever a moment when Jon was not free to go home if he wanted to, he was arrested.
Depending on his answers to the questions during the interrogation, he may be in worse trouble than ever before.
The correct way to handle "seven hours of police interrogation" is by providing "seven hours of complete silence." You never make it worth their while to give you a custodial investigation. If you do, they'll be only too happy to lock you up and interrogate you again. And anything you say will be quoted out of context and used against you.
Well, if nothing else comes from this case, at least Norway is off the list of places from which people can post "move to a free country you ugly americans" messages.
Too late. This is ASU we're talking about. Tempe Arizona.
Real estate for mundane, ugly places is already in the $150-200 per square foot range.
Tempe is the "pretty" part of the Phoenix valley. Generally, Phoenix looks like central LA, while Tempe at least is bicycle friendly, has palm and fruit trees, and a bit of college-town atmosphere.
As far as jumping the rush for buying up the rental property? Forget it. And you can already get USWest DSL pretty much anywhere in Tempe, and Cox cable everywhere else.
Considering how flat the place is, Speedchoice (wireless net!) works quite well too!
I think if real estate goes up any more, people will start leaving here to go to Berkely or NYU, because of the lower cost of living in the Bay Area and NYC!!!! It's already outrageous.
The last apartment I looked at was a 1-br/1-bath, 20 feet from a (noisy as hell) railroad crossing. $1350/month, minimum one-year lease. That's not quite like san jose or manhattan, but you get the idea.
>Unless the students of Arizona State are somehow >different than the rest of the country than about > 5% of them voted in the last election. Which >means the other 95% voted her in by not voting at >all.
I live a stone's throw from ASU, and I'd have to say this in their defense. More than 50% of these people were not old enough to vote in the last election.
Of those that would have been old enough to vote, they didn't live in Arizona.
One thing to realize about Arizona is that, generally, everybody who lives here has come from another state. This is even more so for ASU students.
With all due respect to people who were born and grew up in Arizona, you at least know what I'm talking about.
These persons may or may not have voted McGraff in, but you can't blame them for (1) not being citizens of that state and (2) not being old enough to vote in the past.
Another thing that may shock you, is that it's not ignorance and apathy that's getting these people in office, but strong support! The scariest detail of all this is how popular these strict, controlling attitudes are! Those who believe in individual freedom and freedom from religion-based government often find themselves in the minority, and on the losing side of politics! These people are not being elected by default!
Godwin's and all that aside, consider that the Nazis did many seemingly innocuous things to limit the freedom of the people under their government, long before they started wholesale murder of entire classes and races of people.
The reason people want to draw attention to the small invasions and evaporations of our rights is so that we won't be surprised by waking up in such a state where there is NO freedom to live, which is what happened to Germany. It did not happen overnight, but people chose to ignore the decades of warnings that were right in front of them.
Perhaps the actions of a relatively low person in government (the gov. of AZ) reflect a greater, much more threatening whole.
>(3) Unix shell - What's the best command.com >replacement that: > Has built in unix commands(ls,rm) instead of >those dos things(dir,...) > Lets me use / for path separators and - for >switches.
Premise: I've wondered to what extent learning grafitti will affect handwriting, especially as elementary students get grafitti devices.
If it does indeed turn out that Xerox owns this technology, then perhaps they will license it to other manufacturers. I believe it would be better if one system were used for all devices regardless of manufacturer. If it were so, then the grafitti language would probably enter into our handwriting, affecting culture. If not, then it was just another interface.
"actually, this is a perl-ism. Perl returns the year as the actual year -1900. "
Don't make it sound like perl is to blame here. It's the ANSI C library's method of storing time. Perl, in order to be portable, uses ANSI C, so it inherits this from C.
At least perl scalars are able to hold the five digits of "19100" without causing a segfault. If a char pointer in C has been alloc'd 4 bytes for the year, and gets 5 bytes copied into it, unpredictable behavior follows.
I'd trade 1/2 the speed for twice (how about 4x?) the battery life.
In fact, everything else being equal (ram and disk capacity for instance), I'd really enjoy something like a P200 with a much improved battery life. 2-4 hours doesn't cut it. Give me 72 hours on a charge!!
I have had to fix systems that would have caused, i.e., transaction reports to not be imported because of date calculations. A small problem? The labor required to fix reports that would have been rejected would have been rather expensive considering that the problem would persist and compound until the software was fixed. So fixing the software was quick and simple. The consequences of not fixing the software might have been rather expensive.
"The use of "kilo-" to indicate multiplication by 1024 is a corruption of the term. "
Well, we probably would have liked to have computers represent decimal numbers internally as decimal, but it just didn't happen that way since we have to deal with a binary machine.
Early geeks said "kilobyte" Correct or not, the word made it to marketing and documentation circles.
Some of us were newbies in the 1980's, where we learned about Unix (and computers in general) in College. This is a situation where it's acceptable for a curriculum to be difficult to learn. Expected, even.
Years passed, and things happened in the industry such as the release of the Linux OS.
Now we have newbies who feel entitled to an understanding of the system without bleeding from their eyes over textbooks and from their stomachs over exams for a few years? Why should they be?
If you feel strongly about it, then by all means make a distribution that:
1. Installs without user input on common system types. Don't worry about strange hardware; make it for one brand/model if you want to.
2. When it's installed, all it does is configure itself for dialup PPP with only the information from the ISP.
3. Instead of a shell and a window manager, make it come up with the few applications that you provide with your distribution and leave it at that.
You are either going to dumb down the interface or you aren't. If you do, then you might as well go all the way. Make it so there's one button for Netscape, one Button for your email client; I guess that's it.
If you aren't going to dumb down the interface, then the interface we have now is pretty damned good. Develop it.
Slashdot Mirror
1. We "the hacker community" have just been granted class status by a federal judge. This could mean that, in this one district, the "hacker community" has a basis on which to claim class status (e.g., this is the "class" as in "class action")
2. We have perhaps unwittingly become a pawn in the game of strengthening the DMCA. If this is not the first precedent based on the DMCA, it is certainly the most widely read.
If a significant extent of your market research
/.
is from slashdot.org, you probably should hesitate before investing in such a venture anyway. In this case, you, not the "community", are your own worst enemy. Slashdot.org may be a popular news forum, but it's hardly useful for measuring anything but it's own effects.
Of course we want support. But you wouldn't have read about how I feel about my own dell laptop which runs linux, or how much I paid for it or how satisfied I am, here on
How do you know for certain that's not what Distributed.Net or Seti@Home has been doing?
Cracking Kevin's Keys under some innocuous pretense?
At least a decade ago, I was given some statistics about China (that supposedly were from a very credible source, yadda yadda).
Among them was one about Refrigeration. That far from considering how many Chinese have telephones, televisions, and computers, we should consider how few of them even have refrigeration.
It's likely you've lived in a house with electricity and a refrigerator, and if you're REALLY old, that you had a man bring an ice cube to you on a wagon each day, o maybe you cannot relate to this. But if you can imagine what it must be like to have to get your meat and dairy products on a daily basis, and not have the ability to store food (no leftovers, no frozen pizza!), you probably aren't thinking about whether these people have computers or SDSL lines.
Many of them may not even have the certainty they they will have food from one day to the next.
>Racks are dumb for end users
Hmm, you leave out the musicians from your "end users" set.
Most musicians have rackmounted gear: PA Amp, EQ's, Effects, Signal Processors, Midi Synth, power conditioner. It's extremely nice to have the computer on the same rack.
>What's the goal... coolness or organization..
Having your equipment in one piece when it arrives. If you've ever had otherwise, you know the value of that.
For the "end user" who already has some rackmounted equipment, which is far more commonplace than you seem to think, it makes a lot of sense to have everything on the rack, and not have some stuff on the rack, and other stuff that has to be lugged around, put on a table, shipped in a separate crate, etc.
The "living room" comment that you made seems to imply that everybody who is on a budget is also merely a hobbyist, with trivial needs. Believe me, there are many professionals who are also on a budget, yet have real needs for certain things; rackmouted equipment being one of them.
>And the difference between "arrest" and >"imprisonment" being..? Jon is walking around >freely today, afaik. :)
>He's not locked up - he's not arrested
He wasn't compensated for the full day spent being "interrogated."
If there was ever a moment when Jon was not free to go home if he wanted to, he was arrested.
Depending on his answers to the questions during the interrogation, he may be in worse trouble than ever before.
The correct way to handle "seven hours of police interrogation" is by providing "seven hours of complete silence." You never make it worth their while to give you a custodial investigation.
If you do, they'll be only too happy to lock you up and interrogate you again. And anything you say will be quoted out of context and used against you.
Well, if nothing else comes from this case, at least Norway is off the list of places from which people can post "move to a free country you ugly americans" messages.
Too late. This is ASU we're talking about.
Tempe Arizona.
Real estate for mundane, ugly places is already
in the $150-200 per square foot range.
Tempe is the "pretty" part of the Phoenix valley.
Generally, Phoenix looks like central LA, while
Tempe at least is bicycle friendly, has palm and fruit trees, and a bit of college-town atmosphere.
As far as jumping the rush for buying up the rental property? Forget it. And you can already get USWest DSL pretty much anywhere in Tempe, and Cox cable everywhere else.
Considering how flat the place is, Speedchoice (wireless net!) works quite well too!
I think if real estate goes up any more, people will start leaving here to go to Berkely or NYU, because of the lower cost of living in the Bay Area and NYC!!!! It's already outrageous.
The last apartment I looked at was a 1-br/1-bath,
20 feet from a (noisy as hell) railroad crossing.
$1350/month, minimum one-year lease. That's not quite like san jose or manhattan, but you get the idea.
>Unless the students of Arizona State are somehow >different than the rest of the country than about
> 5% of them voted in the last election. Which >means the other 95% voted her in by not voting at >all.
I live a stone's throw from ASU, and I'd have to say this in their defense. More than 50% of these people were not old enough to vote in the last election.
Of those that would have been old enough to vote, they didn't live in Arizona.
One thing to realize about Arizona is that, generally, everybody who lives here has come from another state. This is even more so for ASU students.
With all due respect to people who were born and grew up in Arizona, you at least know what I'm talking about.
These persons may or may not have voted McGraff in, but you can't blame them for (1) not being citizens of that state and (2) not being old enough to vote in the past.
Another thing that may shock you, is that it's not ignorance and apathy that's getting these people in office, but strong support! The scariest detail of all this is how popular these strict, controlling attitudes are! Those who believe in individual freedom and freedom from religion-based government often find themselves in the minority, and on the losing side of politics! These people are not being elected by default!
> Are you aware of the difference?
Godwin's and all that aside,
consider that the Nazis did many seemingly
innocuous things to limit the freedom of the
people under their government, long before they
started wholesale murder of entire classes and
races of people.
The reason people want to draw attention to the
small invasions and evaporations of our rights is
so that we won't be surprised by waking up in such a state where there is NO freedom to live, which is what happened to Germany. It did not happen overnight, but people chose to ignore the decades of warnings that were right in front of them.
Perhaps the actions of a relatively low person in government (the gov. of AZ) reflect a greater, much more threatening whole.
>Oh what I wouldn't do to be living in this
>person's district, so I could run against her.
Only to be further discouraged, when you find out how much support is enjoyed by this kind of thinking.
>(1) "mount" an ext2 device as a drive.
Don't hold your breath for this!
>(3) Unix shell - What's the best command.com >replacement that:
> Has built in unix commands(ls,rm) instead of >those dos things(dir,...)
> Lets me use / for path separators and - for >switches.
Have you tried bash from cygwin32?
>Why would anyone copy a DVD to a video tape? >Great quality to poor quality. The
> video is probably available in stores anyway.
Everybody and their dog and their grandmother and their grandmother's dog has a vcr.
Far from everybody has a DVD player.
Also, the 1st generation of copy from a digital video source to analog tape is anything but "poor quality."
Premise: I've wondered to what extent learning grafitti will affect handwriting, especially as elementary students get grafitti devices.
If it does indeed turn out that Xerox owns this technology, then perhaps they will license it to
other manufacturers. I believe it would be better if one system were used for all devices regardless of manufacturer. If it were so, then the grafitti language would probably enter into our handwriting, affecting culture. If not, then it was just another interface.
"$400 for even a top of the line hd is rather inflated"
"Top of the line?"
So, you're getting fiberchannel for less than
a couple grand then?
"actually, this is a perl-ism. Perl returns the year as the actual year -1900. "
Don't make it sound like perl is to blame here.
It's the ANSI C library's method of storing time.
Perl, in order to be portable, uses ANSI C, so it
inherits this from C.
At least perl scalars are able to hold the five
digits of "19100" without causing a segfault.
If a char pointer in C has been alloc'd 4 bytes
for the year, and gets 5 bytes copied into it,
unpredictable behavior follows.
Tom, you're blessed with being surrounded by
intelligent people.
I'm not convinced the average american can count to 8.
I'd trade 1/2 the speed for twice (how about 4x?)
the battery life.
In fact, everything else being equal (ram and disk capacity for instance), I'd really enjoy something like a P200 with a much improved battery life. 2-4 hours doesn't cut it. Give me 72 hours on a charge!!
One man's nuisance is another man's catastrophe.
I have had to fix systems that would have caused,
i.e., transaction reports to not be imported because of date calculations. A small problem?
The labor required to fix reports that would have been rejected would have been rather expensive considering that the problem would persist and compound until the software was fixed. So fixing the software was quick and simple. The consequences of not fixing the software might have been rather expensive.
Okay, in some expressions, ^ means XOR.
In context, you should have understood I
meant "to the power."
You are a troll for attempting to make me look
like more of a moron than I am. I kiss you.
2^10 or 1024
Wrong. 2^10==8.
I had to go check. Because I realize I can make mistakes like that. You had me worried.
$ perl -e 'print 2^10';
8
"The use of "kilo-" to indicate multiplication by 1024 is a corruption of the term. "
Well, we probably would have liked to have computers represent decimal numbers internally as decimal, but it just didn't happen that way since
we have to deal with a binary machine.
Early geeks said "kilobyte" Correct or not, the
word made it to marketing and documentation circles.
Oh well.
You serious?
Since we're dealing with binary numbers,
a K is supposed to represent a kilobyte,
or 2^10 or 1024
so 2K == 2048
"While we're discussing airlines, many airlines are cancelling up to half of their flights on New Years Eve"
... This has to do with business, not avionics.
... Because many passengers cancelled their tickets
"We've all be newbies at one time or another. "
Some of us were newbies in the 1980's, where we
learned about Unix (and computers in general)
in College. This is a situation where it's acceptable for a curriculum to be difficult to learn. Expected, even.
Years passed, and things happened in the industry
such as the release of the Linux OS.
Now we have newbies who feel entitled to an understanding of the system without bleeding from their eyes over textbooks and from their stomachs over exams for a few years? Why should they be?
If you feel strongly about it, then by all means
make a distribution that:
1. Installs without user input on common system types. Don't worry about strange hardware;
make it for one brand/model if you want to.
2. When it's installed, all it does is configure itself for dialup PPP with only the
information from the ISP.
3. Instead of a shell and a window manager,
make it come up with the few applications that
you provide with your distribution and leave it at that.
You are either going to dumb down the interface or you aren't. If you do, then you might as well go all the way. Make it so there's one button for Netscape, one Button for your email client; I guess that's it.
If you aren't going to dumb down the interface, then the interface we have now is pretty damned good. Develop it.
"We put a domain name on hold so no one has access to it," Regan said.
If they would simply put *both* names on hold
in a dispute situation like this, we would not
have this kind of problem.
Excuse the previous content-free post. I slipped.