this means its only a matter of time before Iran crumbles. It seems each time freedom of speech and the press is attacked it backfires big time on the government. Except perhaps Nazi Germany. It can't be known if they would have imploded due to it because they started a world war forcing others to overthrow it.
"They won't listen to our voice, but they will listen to our dollars. The day common people understand the democratic power of money, is the day democracy will start working for everyone."
Voting with your dollars doesn't work anymore because of trade organizations and price fixing. When trade organizations get created such as the MPAA and RIAA they agree to offer services in a certain way only. In effect they act like one giant company. Then they all operate in the agreed way (monopoly and antitrust comes to mind here). When that happens there is no other choice for the consumer. Therefore the consumer is left with only two choices: to buy or not to buy. The consumer doesn't have the luxery of buying from someone else. The only third option is what another person brought up and that's buying used movies. That is a loophole that movies, music and the book industry has been trying to close for sometime and DRM is their way to do that. Eventually they will do away with cd's and dvd's completely or they'll ship as an install program which only runs in their approved DRM software only thereby eliminating once and for all the used market which they get no money from.
So I'm sorry to burst your bubble but the "vote with your dollars" arguement simply doesn't work anymore and hasn't for years, perhaps decades.
"These people are the studio's target audience - the single people have plenty of disposable income and the parents have kids which dispose of their income for them. When I lend out my $5 copy of Star Wars ep3 to 20 people over 3 months, that's at least 10 less people who would otherwise have paid money to rent or buy (I presume the other 10 just borrow it because its free, so no real loss of business opportunity there.)"
LOL you've discovered how hollywood does math! Reminds me of when SWE3 came out Lucasfilm whined about millions being lost due to internet movie piracy in Mexico!! Oh the shame!!! Well the real truth is that figure was based on estimated revenue from piracy sales of the blackmarket dvd. The problem with that math is I've been to Mexico and theatres are not abundant there and ones that can afford Star Wars are even rarer so its actually money that Lucasfilm would have NEVER made anyway! You can't claim a "loss" in a market you don't have iow.
actually it sounds like perhaps MPAA is finally listening to the customer. We've been saying all along we don't want to pirate, we just want to a)back up our movies and b)be able to have the movie on harddrive and stream it to our tv to watch anytime. Since the physical dvd is being mailed as well it sounds like they are finally giving the consumer what they want. This should have been a requirement before the DCMA was ever created anyway because it did nothing for the criminal yet punished the consumer.
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"What will this mean for office managers who have to plan upgrades and budgets? Will this make anyone look at OpenOffice.org?"
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It means nothing for office managers because they don't think Office needs an "upgrade" anyway. As far as OpenOffice - no it won't make biz look at it because biz has to consider training and college and high school grads are currently trained on MSFT products. If those kids knew how the software worked the way computer classes were taught 15 to 20 years ago then which software package wouldn't matter, they could work with any of them but today they are taught to be drones who only know to move the little mousy and click this then that to perform x.
Good point.
Schools and colleges teach photoshop not gimp. How to books at the bookstore are on photoshop not gimp.
Now yes, if you actually know how to use photoshop already chances are good you can pick up the GIMP pretty easily; but if you're an existing employee that overnight has been added one more job to juggle then learning to use GIMP is a daunting task.
>>He says customers have been conditioned to buy software from vendors and their approved partners.'"
That's the problem I run into when I've introduced people to Linux. The lure of the $5 software bin at wal-mart is too much. Then there's the browser based active-x software that they just "have" to use instead of sticking with java and javascript sites.
>>Dig deeper, you'll find more. Leave dry wells alone, they'll regenerate.
You're forgetting the TYPE of oil. The oil that is being found isn't usable for fuel but more for lubrication. As for this part "Leave dry wells alone, they'll regenerate." - WTF did you get that idea? - your Bible? You do realize oil is a byproduct of dead materials from days gone by don't you? Which means when its used up its gone.
Your comments about copper might be spot on but this part: "Just as I don't believe we're anywhere near to running out of oil in the next 1000 years," Doesn't jive. Report after report has come out over the last few years stating that the drillers aren't finding any new usable oil.
Your theory about the prices skyrocketing if there truely is a shortage doesn't work with titanic products like oil because its markets are watched by governments and intervened by them. Of course things like oil also have to be looked at from a much wider perspective. When I was in high school in the late 80s fuel was less than $1 a gallon. Today it's over 100% that amount. So how big does that percentage have to be for you to realize there's a problem hmm? 1000%?
and coming next week the dramatic amazing documentary of paint peeling! Yes you too can own a piece of history as the life cycle of a can of ordinary paint goes from production to application to aging and finally peeling off!
yea, so they actually know how a computer works. Ever seen a "computer science" class these days? They're really just lessons on using Internet Explorer (and never covers the security features btw) and MSFT Office. -- A far cry from what "computer science" was in the '80s when I was in school on Apple II's and the first IBM clones. These days people don't know that the desktop icons are just a faster way of typeing c:\program files\kornprogram\favoritekorngame.exe
or in linux all one would have to do is type at a command prompt: favoritekorngame and bam watch it load and run because *gasp* Linux actually knows where to find the program.
predictable. M$ wasn't about to let anyone else create a "standard". What should make one raise their eyebrow though (Massachusettes politicians) is that they never considered this until they finally had competition.
Revenues of the products doesn't mean people actually play the game though. Actually gathering people up and playing at the table with chips, beer and "Monty Python's Holy Grail" playing in a vcr in the background are pretty much over. Now people just buy the books as collecting and reading hobbies.
I hear you but I wonder rather than still fighting against their customers like this why not just finally kill off the CD and be done with it? Seriously, all MP3 players can now get an attachment to stream to our car stereos now. Sony could even start making car stereos that instead of CD slots in them they have a jack instead for your mp3 player. Then the "cd" they sell is actually just a data cd of protected.wma tunes.
I hate what their doing and DRM too but its not going to go away so why not just make the shift now? They ain't fooling us anyway, PBS Frontline exposed a while back what the REAl loss of revenue they've had came from - people finally being done switching all their cassette music to CD - it had absolutely nothing to do with "p2p" or so called "piracy". Well this would force everyone to do what they force us to do all the time from lp to 8trac to cassette to cd. This time its from cd to protected digital.
But the whole limited number of devices one can play the tunes on has got to go away that's just stupid and it only restricts us especially when you consider how much maintenance freaking Windows takes and ends up taking up an instance everytime we have to do it.
Of course what I'd rather they do is make the artists get off their lazy skinny bones (mainly speaking to the pop ones here) and actually work for a living aka concerts instead and let the albums be what they've always been - supplements to the concerts and advertising for it.
yes but those are "LiveCD" distros as opposed to this which is actually a harddrive installation. Big difference. For example could you edit a short vacation film on a liveCd distro? Doubtful due to it using so much memory instead of being installed as a real filesystem. With H2 you could. This amongst other reasons is why getting Linux to install on a portable USB/Firedrive is like the holy grail amongst linux users and seems to be right up there with the "how do I get printer x or video card y to work" questions.
The search for one's identity goes beyond reason and it can be maddening. Learning that one is adopted late in life is a severe blow to a person and I can imagine the feeling could even be worse if they find out its from sperm donation. That could be worse in fact because neither love nor lust was tied to ones conception.
There was a TV movie on last year about an Indian teenager taking his grandfather on a roadtrip for what he thinks could be his last tribal meeting. The teenager of course is rebellious and self-centered (typical teenager iow) and along the way he picks up lessons from gramps. At one point they pick up your typical white kid who wants to tag along and the Indian boy pokes fun at him for wanting to become a wanna-be Indian. Grandfather scolds his grandson and it really makes him think with the line: "He wants to be connected to something. I for one commend him." That line for me sums up why the search for one's identity is important to people and is why issues of race, ethnicity, gender and class will never go away.
one doesn't need Google to find better deals at all. All you have to do is open your Sunday paper to the ads and use your Target ad which always beats Wal-Mart's price. Wal-Mart being "cheap" is only true with wal-mart brand ie "generic" products.
>>Eh, iTunes shows that a lot of people are willing to pay fair and square just for convenience. You're never going to reel in the people who want free no matter what, but you can easily reel in the people who want convenience, ala GP post.
Yup, and the peace of mind that its not a trojan horse like so much on the p2p networks. iTunes' deal with ABC for a few shows is exactly what I've been thinking has been needed to happen for some time. Now to expand to other shows like Smallville, Charmed, Supernatural and other shows commonly sought after on the p2p networks.
Speaking of which. Is there anything stopping Apple from making iTunes accessible via the MSFT Media Center interface? Is the API to that open for them to add their own menu to it and so on?
Ok first off in order to do this one would need some extremely long chains hooked up to extremely gigantic concrete anchors. They'd likely make ones that hold bouies down look like mere bricks. Secondly, how would the generated power get to land where it can be used? Third, who would maintain these? The Coast Guard (I'm a USCG vet btw) maintains aton currently with their many 180' bouy tenders but those don't go that deep and the vast majority are by the nature of aton relatively close to port not in the ocean deep where these would be. The chains and anchors which need regular maintenance would require an ocean going tender to maintain these at the cost of several million dollars to build and multi-millions to maintain the ships and her crew each year.
I'm not saying its not worth the money I'm just pointing out that there's a lot more to it than a bunch of floating windmills. I don't think an oil-like platform to put them on would work due to the sheer size they'd have to be - and with potentially incredibly small returns.
from article: " People love to watch TV, almost as much as they like to surf the net. Why not make them one?"
My take: WRONG. People like to watch TV at the same time they are on the computer. They don't like them combined which is part of the reason WebTV failed. (that coupled with being underpowered and unexpandable)
As far as the idea of Google ads. You don't think they'd be able to disable TV ads and only use google ads do you? Ha! No it would still be the every 15 minutes on the dot TV commercials AND Google scrolling ads and all while we PAY for the privelage to RENT the thing due to some stupid EULA they'd most certainly have.
>>And why must people (on both sides) believe that accepting science means rejecting religion?
Because religion it removes God from the equation as creator. The "God did it through evolution" arguement doesn't work because a god isn't needed for evolution. So what they do is accept only the things they want to by calling things "mutations" instead of evolution at work. They'll call cold viruses and bacterial infections mutations as well instead of accepting that that's what evolution is. It's the whole stupid fear of death thing which is stupid because we can't remember anything before age 5 iow our beginning so why worry about our end? HOW we die, now that's a valid fear and effects people regardless of religion.
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this means its only a matter of time before Iran crumbles. It seems each time freedom of speech and the press is attacked it backfires big time on the government. Except perhaps Nazi Germany. It can't be known if they would have imploded due to it because they started a world war forcing others to overthrow it.
"They won't listen to our voice, but they will listen to our dollars. The day common people understand the democratic power of money, is the day democracy will start working for everyone." Voting with your dollars doesn't work anymore because of trade organizations and price fixing. When trade organizations get created such as the MPAA and RIAA they agree to offer services in a certain way only. In effect they act like one giant company. Then they all operate in the agreed way (monopoly and antitrust comes to mind here). When that happens there is no other choice for the consumer. Therefore the consumer is left with only two choices: to buy or not to buy. The consumer doesn't have the luxery of buying from someone else. The only third option is what another person brought up and that's buying used movies. That is a loophole that movies, music and the book industry has been trying to close for sometime and DRM is their way to do that. Eventually they will do away with cd's and dvd's completely or they'll ship as an install program which only runs in their approved DRM software only thereby eliminating once and for all the used market which they get no money from. So I'm sorry to burst your bubble but the "vote with your dollars" arguement simply doesn't work anymore and hasn't for years, perhaps decades.
"These people are the studio's target audience - the single people have plenty of disposable income and the parents have kids which dispose of their income for them. When I lend out my $5 copy of Star Wars ep3 to 20 people over 3 months, that's at least 10 less people who would otherwise have paid money to rent or buy (I presume the other 10 just borrow it because its free, so no real loss of business opportunity there.)" LOL you've discovered how hollywood does math! Reminds me of when SWE3 came out Lucasfilm whined about millions being lost due to internet movie piracy in Mexico!! Oh the shame!!! Well the real truth is that figure was based on estimated revenue from piracy sales of the blackmarket dvd. The problem with that math is I've been to Mexico and theatres are not abundant there and ones that can afford Star Wars are even rarer so its actually money that Lucasfilm would have NEVER made anyway! You can't claim a "loss" in a market you don't have iow.
actually it sounds like perhaps MPAA is finally listening to the customer. We've been saying all along we don't want to pirate, we just want to a)back up our movies and b)be able to have the movie on harddrive and stream it to our tv to watch anytime. Since the physical dvd is being mailed as well it sounds like they are finally giving the consumer what they want. This should have been a requirement before the DCMA was ever created anyway because it did nothing for the criminal yet punished the consumer.
"What will this mean for office managers who have to plan upgrades and budgets? Will this make anyone look at OpenOffice.org?"
Answer:
It means nothing for office managers because they don't think Office needs an "upgrade" anyway. As far as OpenOffice - no it won't make biz look at it because biz has to consider training and college and high school grads are currently trained on MSFT products. If those kids knew how the software worked the way computer classes were taught 15 to 20 years ago then which software package wouldn't matter, they could work with any of them but today they are taught to be drones who only know to move the little mousy and click this then that to perform x.
Good point. Schools and colleges teach photoshop not gimp. How to books at the bookstore are on photoshop not gimp. Now yes, if you actually know how to use photoshop already chances are good you can pick up the GIMP pretty easily; but if you're an existing employee that overnight has been added one more job to juggle then learning to use GIMP is a daunting task.
>>He says customers have been conditioned to buy software from vendors and their approved partners.'" That's the problem I run into when I've introduced people to Linux. The lure of the $5 software bin at wal-mart is too much. Then there's the browser based active-x software that they just "have" to use instead of sticking with java and javascript sites.
>>Dig deeper, you'll find more. Leave dry wells alone, they'll regenerate. You're forgetting the TYPE of oil. The oil that is being found isn't usable for fuel but more for lubrication. As for this part "Leave dry wells alone, they'll regenerate." - WTF did you get that idea? - your Bible? You do realize oil is a byproduct of dead materials from days gone by don't you? Which means when its used up its gone.
Your comments about copper might be spot on but this part: "Just as I don't believe we're anywhere near to running out of oil in the next 1000 years," Doesn't jive. Report after report has come out over the last few years stating that the drillers aren't finding any new usable oil. Your theory about the prices skyrocketing if there truely is a shortage doesn't work with titanic products like oil because its markets are watched by governments and intervened by them. Of course things like oil also have to be looked at from a much wider perspective. When I was in high school in the late 80s fuel was less than $1 a gallon. Today it's over 100% that amount. So how big does that percentage have to be for you to realize there's a problem hmm? 1000%?
now the music industry is "stuck on stupid". This is ridiculous.
and coming next week the dramatic amazing documentary of paint peeling! Yes you too can own a piece of history as the life cycle of a can of ordinary paint goes from production to application to aging and finally peeling off!
yea, so they actually know how a computer works. Ever seen a "computer science" class these days? They're really just lessons on using Internet Explorer (and never covers the security features btw) and MSFT Office. -- A far cry from what "computer science" was in the '80s when I was in school on Apple II's and the first IBM clones. These days people don't know that the desktop icons are just a faster way of typeing c:\program files\kornprogram\favoritekorngame.exe
or in linux all one would have to do is type at a command prompt: favoritekorngame and bam watch it load and run because *gasp* Linux actually knows where to find the program.
predictable. M$ wasn't about to let anyone else create a "standard". What should make one raise their eyebrow though (Massachusettes politicians) is that they never considered this until they finally had competition.
the subject movies don't belong in the space movies list imo because they aren't about "space" - they aren't even sci-fi but are space opera instead.
Revenues of the products doesn't mean people actually play the game though. Actually gathering people up and playing at the table with chips, beer and "Monty Python's Holy Grail" playing in a vcr in the background are pretty much over. Now people just buy the books as collecting and reading hobbies.
I hear you but I wonder rather than still fighting against their customers like this why not just finally kill off the CD and be done with it? Seriously, all MP3 players can now get an attachment to stream to our car stereos now. Sony could even start making car stereos that instead of CD slots in them they have a jack instead for your mp3 player. Then the "cd" they sell is actually just a data cd of protected .wma tunes.
I hate what their doing and DRM too but its not going to go away so why not just make the shift now? They ain't fooling us anyway, PBS Frontline exposed a while back what the REAl loss of revenue they've had came from - people finally being done switching all their cassette music to CD - it had absolutely nothing to do with "p2p" or so called "piracy". Well this would force everyone to do what they force us to do all the time from lp to 8trac to cassette to cd. This time its from cd to protected digital.
But the whole limited number of devices one can play the tunes on has got to go away that's just stupid and it only restricts us especially when you consider how much maintenance freaking Windows takes and ends up taking up an instance everytime we have to do it.
Of course what I'd rather they do is make the artists get off their lazy skinny bones (mainly speaking to the pop ones here) and actually work for a living aka concerts instead and let the albums be what they've always been - supplements to the concerts and advertising for it.
yes but those are "LiveCD" distros as opposed to this which is actually a harddrive installation. Big difference. For example could you edit a short vacation film on a liveCd distro? Doubtful due to it using so much memory instead of being installed as a real filesystem. With H2 you could. This amongst other reasons is why getting Linux to install on a portable USB/Firedrive is like the holy grail amongst linux users and seems to be right up there with the "how do I get printer x or video card y to work" questions.
ROFLMA good one
The search for one's identity goes beyond reason and it can be maddening. Learning that one is adopted late in life is a severe blow to a person and I can imagine the feeling could even be worse if they find out its from sperm donation. That could be worse in fact because neither love nor lust was tied to ones conception. There was a TV movie on last year about an Indian teenager taking his grandfather on a roadtrip for what he thinks could be his last tribal meeting. The teenager of course is rebellious and self-centered (typical teenager iow) and along the way he picks up lessons from gramps. At one point they pick up your typical white kid who wants to tag along and the Indian boy pokes fun at him for wanting to become a wanna-be Indian. Grandfather scolds his grandson and it really makes him think with the line: "He wants to be connected to something. I for one commend him." That line for me sums up why the search for one's identity is important to people and is why issues of race, ethnicity, gender and class will never go away.
one doesn't need Google to find better deals at all. All you have to do is open your Sunday paper to the ads and use your Target ad which always beats Wal-Mart's price. Wal-Mart being "cheap" is only true with wal-mart brand ie "generic" products.
>>Eh, iTunes shows that a lot of people are willing to pay fair and square just for convenience. You're never going to reel in the people who want free no matter what, but you can easily reel in the people who want convenience, ala GP post. Yup, and the peace of mind that its not a trojan horse like so much on the p2p networks. iTunes' deal with ABC for a few shows is exactly what I've been thinking has been needed to happen for some time. Now to expand to other shows like Smallville, Charmed, Supernatural and other shows commonly sought after on the p2p networks. Speaking of which. Is there anything stopping Apple from making iTunes accessible via the MSFT Media Center interface? Is the API to that open for them to add their own menu to it and so on?
there's a lot of fairy tales about democrats. welcome to the real world, it's been waiting for you.
Ok first off in order to do this one would need some extremely long chains hooked up to extremely gigantic concrete anchors. They'd likely make ones that hold bouies down look like mere bricks. Secondly, how would the generated power get to land where it can be used? Third, who would maintain these? The Coast Guard (I'm a USCG vet btw) maintains aton currently with their many 180' bouy tenders but those don't go that deep and the vast majority are by the nature of aton relatively close to port not in the ocean deep where these would be. The chains and anchors which need regular maintenance would require an ocean going tender to maintain these at the cost of several million dollars to build and multi-millions to maintain the ships and her crew each year. I'm not saying its not worth the money I'm just pointing out that there's a lot more to it than a bunch of floating windmills. I don't think an oil-like platform to put them on would work due to the sheer size they'd have to be - and with potentially incredibly small returns.
from article: " People love to watch TV, almost as much as they like to surf the net. Why not make them one?" My take: WRONG. People like to watch TV at the same time they are on the computer. They don't like them combined which is part of the reason WebTV failed. (that coupled with being underpowered and unexpandable) As far as the idea of Google ads. You don't think they'd be able to disable TV ads and only use google ads do you? Ha! No it would still be the every 15 minutes on the dot TV commercials AND Google scrolling ads and all while we PAY for the privelage to RENT the thing due to some stupid EULA they'd most certainly have.
>>And why must people (on both sides) believe that accepting science means rejecting religion? Because religion it removes God from the equation as creator. The "God did it through evolution" arguement doesn't work because a god isn't needed for evolution. So what they do is accept only the things they want to by calling things "mutations" instead of evolution at work. They'll call cold viruses and bacterial infections mutations as well instead of accepting that that's what evolution is. It's the whole stupid fear of death thing which is stupid because we can't remember anything before age 5 iow our beginning so why worry about our end? HOW we die, now that's a valid fear and effects people regardless of religion.