Hey, ads are fine--just don't spawn a separate window for them. Don't install malicious ActiveX controls or other spyware and adware, or run other irritating scripts in your ads. Keep them on the page itself, be civilized, and maybe people will patronize your business. Is this hard? It's just common courtesy. The advertising industry dug its own grave here. Not shedding any tears for em.
Here's your anti-advertising vibe. Why shouldn't we have a bad attitude towards a business that tries to convince people to spend money they don't have on things they don't need?
But why would you think american programmers are better coders than the ones in india?
Now here's an example of a reading comprehension problem. I never said that. Assuming English is your first language, if you misinterpreted my English statement, then imagine the complications in communicating much more abstract ideas to a non-native English speaker.
What I said was "Poor code, difficult logistics, and communication breakdowns are cutting into [a whole lot of firms] savings." I did not say Americans were better coders, but that poor code was being generated in India.
Those are two completely different statements, and I later pointed out that surely there were Indian firms that could deliver on significant savings (with a quality product). However, whether it is the volume of work being taken on, miscommunication, or a lack of skill, something is affecting the quality of work generated by a lot of Indian firms. This is information I have gotten first hand from friends in the industry and also information I have read about in trade publications.
From all I've heard and read, a whole lot of firms are not realizing the advantages they signed up for with regard to outsourcing. Poor code, difficult logistics, and communication breakdowns are cutting into their savings. It doesn't matter if you're only paying developers $10k a year if you have to turn around and pay your few remaining engineers to pore over the code line by line and fix mistakes.
I know that there are some good firms overseas that probably can provide a legitimate savings without some of these headaches, but businesses expecting a panacaea may come out the worse for outsourcing. Caveat emptor, YMMV, etc.
So you don't think that FCP, Motion and their great performance on the G5 stealing away Premier and AfterEffects users from Adobe could be a part of the reason Adobe is so stoked about this?
Read between the lines. These applications will probably suffer a slowdown as compared to their Adobe counterparts. Of course it's "about time."
Yeah, CEOs would never say something they don't think is true... Think about it. They guy's a GUEST at APPLE CEO's keynote. Of course he's going to praise anything Jobs does as golden, that's why he's there. Care to explain how this will make users "stop diving from the platform and come back?" Apples will still be proprietary and expensive. They will still be good machines that are well engineered. They will probably not be as good at parallelism or floating point intensive applications. If These Apples have the capability to run Windows natively alongside OS X, I'll get one. Otherwise, my next machine will be a dual dual-core Opteron Linux box.
You can stop it now. The reality distortion field was officially shut down, so welcome back to the real world.
"Real world," eh? Let me straighten you out about the real facts in the "real world," junior. If I were trapped in the "reality distortion field," (a tired cliche, btw), then I would be praising Steve instead of slamming him. As most people who invoke the phrase know, the "reality distortion field" emanates from bulshitter par excellence Steveo.
- greater clockspeed increase. yeah right. With watercooling 700Mhz. Including die-shrink (which completely failed).
Yeah, right. Exactly. A higher percentage increase, why is that hard for you to understand? What watercooled 700 MHz chip are you referring to? There has never been a 700 MHz G5. There was a multicore G5 on the roadmap which probably would have been much better than Intel's multicore offerings, since, like Opterons, the G5 has a parallel lineage.
Better vectore engine: never running at peak performance because of sucky chipset/memory interface. YOu cant MAC without data, even if you have the execution units.
Um, is that the Queen's English? Please translate that latter sentence. As to AltiVec, it's quite effective when utilized properly, as anyone familiar with Apple's professional applications will attest. Apple is taking a step backwards in floating point-intensive applications, the bulk of their professional user domain. Should have gone Opteron. Perhaps they will use Cell daughtercards or something. The integer performance will at least finally improve.
its not about the 3Ghz. with 130nm, the g5 was so hot that the 2.5 needed watercooling (and the real amount was never dicloused), and the die shrink didnt help.
RTFA, Jobs mentions the 3GHz explicitly in the keynote. You'd have to be quite unaware of his mentality to think that that shortfall isn't sticking in his craw. As for heat issues, the 970FX actually runs cooler than the G4, a chip with far fewer transistors than the G5 or P4, at comparable GHz. The 2.0 GHz 90 nm G5, for instance runs at 24.5 W, whereas the 1.42 GHz G4 eats 21 W. The 1.4 GHz G5 averages 12.5 W, by way of a more direct comparison.
You keep mentioning the failure of the die shrink, but seem to forget or ignore Intel's numerous failures, including abandoning the Prescott line in favor of M cores. IBM and AMD have been the ones advancing the semiconductor industry in recent years, with innovations such as the ones aforementioned allowing processor performance to improve in the face of some difficult physical problems. Heat dissipation, again, is a problem for the entire industry.
Last, I'd like to point out that the 2.5GHz wasn't hotter than its direct predecessor, but had tighter power density. It's entirely possible the same is true of the 2.7.
So no laptops (did you see the story that laptops sales surpased desktop ones? or that the powerbooks are a apple stronghold?). No g5-mini.
The laptops are definately a bone of contention. The Mac mini is fine the way it is for now, it just should ship with 512MB baseline RAM.
While i too agree that AMD should have been prefered, it is understandable because of the Pentium M. Apple needs cool chips for notebooks, and while the k8 core is catching up with power-now&co, its still behind p-m. But that doesnt matter, because they are compatible....
Well, Apple has been using two manufacturers, so why can't they continue to do so? Centrino laptops and minis, and Opteron G6s? They have already said they're going to have even fatter binaries, with support for PPC, 68K, AND x86. I also don't understand why they don't work on the bleeding edge of their line and trickle down from there, the way they have always done. I guess Intel has something up their sleeve. Perhaps the G5 and xServe lines will use Itaniums. Maybe even those multicore Itaniums. That would be nice.
I'm not sure I understand what Jobs is smoking here. He says that the P4 roadmap is more promising than the PowerPC roadmap, but the G5 PPC has had a faster growthrate in clockspeed than the P4, and has a much better vector engine. I think Jobs just can't bear the fact that he stuck his foot in his mouth on the 3GHz thing, a wall that has stumped the ENTIRE semiconductor industry and not just IBM. IBM has MUCH better R&D than Intel and comes out with semiconductor innovations like it's a bodily function: dual core, copper wiring, SOI, 90nm, etc.
They've been ahead of Intel by a wide margin. AMD, as ubiquitously pointed on on/., would have been much smarter. Stupid fucking move.
ITS NOT UNIX. ITS SLOW. ITS PROPRIETARY. not to mention the fact apple fucked over the khtml crew.
What are you, retarded? Let's say OS X is slow. Does that disqualify it from being Unix? Early releases of Solaris were fairly ponderous, but it was still Unix: SVr4, in fact: more Unix than SunOS or Linux.
As to the proprietary part, yeah, Unix has never been proprietary, right?
And last, the whole "Apple fucked over the khtml crew" thing is not only inaccurate, it's stupid and irrelevant.
As for the rest of your complaints, I have never had problems with NFS on any release after 10.2, and cups works fine if you know how to run it. Perhaps you haven't configured it properly on your Linux box.
OS X isn't Unix by SCO's definition, but that's about it. It's a weird flavor of NeXTSTEP-derived BSD grandchild hugging a Mach blankee, but it's Unix.
Or, more importantly, is there any way to filter out the pointless mewling drivel of discontented/.ers? This sounds like a project for the Summer of Code!
Secunia is a Microsoft shill, I'd take everything they say with a massive grain of salt.
I remember one FUD-spreading operation in which they attempted to contrast OS X's security record negatively against Windows'. To do so, they compared one version of Windows' exploit record of the past year against all versions of OS X's security records over the past 3 years. Also, even though IE is integrated into the OS, they neglected to include IE vulnerabilities, while inlcuding third party vulnerabilities for OS X. Last, in evaluating the severity of the vulnerabilities, they neglected to address the comparitively easy privilege escalation on Windows versus Mac. Even with all their jerrymandering, OS X was only able to be brought down to "equal" to Windows in security holes.
With a record of such mendacity, they have earned our deepest skepticism. Secunia: bitches for hire.
"Think different" is not grammatically incorrect. "Different" is used as an adjective, not an adverb. It would be like saying "that's different" instead of "that's differently." "Think differently" is instructing you how to think, "think different" is instructing you what to think about.
And last time I checked,/. didn't come up with Apple's slogan.
that SWT's codebase is quite ponderous due to having to write different widget code for five platforms. I love Eclipse and use it for Java/C/++, and only rarely use NetBeans--but I think this consequence of native widgets should be pointed out.
Perhaps if Sun could hack Swing's native look and feel capabilities to be a little more pervasive, we would have a better solution.
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If you don't know what it is, then it's a non-story for you. I'd move on. Most nerds know how to use Google...
...as Proudhon once put it (and I think Douglas Adams may have borrowed the phrase too). So relax, you're already a criminal!
Hey, ads are fine--just don't spawn a separate window for them. Don't install malicious ActiveX controls or other spyware and adware, or run other irritating scripts in your ads. Keep them on the page itself, be civilized, and maybe people will patronize your business. Is this hard? It's just common courtesy. The advertising industry dug its own grave here. Not shedding any tears for em.
Here's your anti-advertising vibe. Why shouldn't we have a bad attitude towards a business that tries to convince people to spend money they don't have on things they don't need?
What I said was "Poor code, difficult logistics, and communication breakdowns are cutting into [a whole lot of firms] savings." I did not say Americans were better coders, but that poor code was being generated in India. Those are two completely different statements, and I later pointed out that surely there were Indian firms that could deliver on significant savings (with a quality product). However, whether it is the volume of work being taken on, miscommunication, or a lack of skill, something is affecting the quality of work generated by a lot of Indian firms. This is information I have gotten first hand from friends in the industry and also information I have read about in trade publications.
I know that there are some good firms overseas that probably can provide a legitimate savings without some of these headaches, but businesses expecting a panacaea may come out the worse for outsourcing. Caveat emptor, YMMV, etc.
Read between the lines. These applications will probably suffer a slowdown as compared to their Adobe counterparts. Of course it's "about time."
Yeah, CEOs would never say something they don't think is true... Think about it. They guy's a GUEST at APPLE CEO's keynote. Of course he's going to praise anything Jobs does as golden, that's why he's there.
Care to explain how this will make users "stop diving from the platform and come back?"
Apples will still be proprietary and expensive. They will still be good machines that are well engineered. They will probably not be as good at parallelism or floating point intensive applications.
If These Apples have the capability to run Windows natively alongside OS X, I'll get one. Otherwise, my next machine will be a dual dual-core Opteron Linux box.
"Real world," eh? Let me straighten you out about the real facts in the "real world," junior. If I were trapped in the "reality distortion field," (a tired cliche, btw), then I would be praising Steve instead of slamming him. As most people who invoke the phrase know, the "reality distortion field" emanates from bulshitter par excellence Steveo.
Yeah, right. Exactly. A higher percentage increase, why is that hard for you to understand? What watercooled 700 MHz chip are you referring to? There has never been a 700 MHz G5. There was a multicore G5 on the roadmap which probably would have been much better than Intel's multicore offerings, since, like Opterons, the G5 has a parallel lineage.
Um, is that the Queen's English? Please translate that latter sentence. As to AltiVec, it's quite effective when utilized properly, as anyone familiar with Apple's professional applications will attest. Apple is taking a step backwards in floating point-intensive applications, the bulk of their professional user domain. Should have gone Opteron. Perhaps they will use Cell daughtercards or something. The integer performance will at least finally improve.
RTFA, Jobs mentions the 3GHz explicitly in the keynote. You'd have to be quite unaware of his mentality to think that that shortfall isn't sticking in his craw. As for heat issues, the 970FX actually runs cooler than the G4, a chip with far fewer transistors than the G5 or P4, at comparable GHz. The 2.0 GHz 90 nm G5, for instance runs at 24.5 W, whereas the 1.42 GHz G4 eats 21 W. The 1.4 GHz G5 averages 12.5 W, by way of a more direct comparison.
You keep mentioning the failure of the die shrink, but seem to forget or ignore Intel's numerous failures, including abandoning the Prescott line in favor of M cores. IBM and AMD have been the ones advancing the semiconductor industry in recent years, with innovations such as the ones aforementioned allowing processor performance to improve in the face of some difficult physical problems. Heat dissipation, again, is a problem for the entire industry.
Last, I'd like to point out that the 2.5GHz wasn't hotter than its direct predecessor, but had tighter power density. It's entirely possible the same is true of the 2.7.
The laptops are definately a bone of contention. The Mac mini is fine the way it is for now, it just should ship with 512MB baseline RAM.
Well, Apple has been using two manufacturers, so why can't they continue to do so? Centrino laptops and minis, and Opteron G6s? They have already said they're going to have even fatter binaries, with support for PPC, 68K, AND x86.
I also don't understand why they don't work on the bleeding edge of their line and trickle down from there, the way they have always done. I guess Intel has something up their sleeve. Perhaps the G5 and xServe lines will use Itaniums. Maybe even those multicore Itaniums. That would be nice.
He says that the P4 roadmap is more promising than the PowerPC roadmap, but the G5 PPC has had a faster growthrate in clockspeed than the P4, and has a much better vector engine. I think Jobs just can't bear the fact that he stuck his foot in his mouth on the 3GHz thing, a wall that has stumped the ENTIRE semiconductor industry and not just IBM. IBM has MUCH better R&D than Intel and comes out with semiconductor innovations like it's a bodily function: dual core, copper wiring, SOI, 90nm, etc.
They've been ahead of Intel by a wide margin. AMD, as ubiquitously pointed on on /., would have been much smarter.
Stupid fucking move.
Even without AltiVec optimization, my old G4 350 used to scorch contemporary state of the art x86 chips.
...just the best one!
vim 6.2 ships with Tiger.
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Erg, how embarassing...
Let's not forget about nanotube transistors. I imagine we'll see them before molecules. In fact, I think we're pretty close.
As to the proprietary part, yeah, Unix has never been proprietary, right?
And last, the whole "Apple fucked over the khtml crew" thing is not only inaccurate, it's stupid and irrelevant.
As for the rest of your complaints, I have never had problems with NFS on any release after 10.2, and cups works fine if you know how to run it. Perhaps you haven't configured it properly on your Linux box.
OS X isn't Unix by SCO's definition, but that's about it. It's a weird flavor of NeXTSTEP-derived BSD grandchild hugging a Mach blankee, but it's Unix.
Or, more importantly, is there any way to filter out the pointless mewling drivel of discontented /.ers? This sounds like a project for the Summer of Code!
OMG!! I think I've found the terrorists! They can be found on Pennsylvania Avenue and on Capitol Hill...
I remember one FUD-spreading operation in which they attempted to contrast OS X's security record negatively against Windows'. To do so, they compared one version of Windows' exploit record of the past year against all versions of OS X's security records over the past 3 years. Also, even though IE is integrated into the OS, they neglected to include IE vulnerabilities, while inlcuding third party vulnerabilities for OS X. Last, in evaluating the severity of the vulnerabilities, they neglected to address the comparitively easy privilege escalation on Windows versus Mac. Even with all their jerrymandering, OS X was only able to be brought down to "equal" to Windows in security holes.
With a record of such mendacity, they have earned our deepest skepticism. Secunia: bitches for hire.
Dupe plus 2 heresies equals 10 funny points? Indeed, there could be a /. jail, but it looks like no one will ever see it.
Perhaps Apple is looking into offering an x86 daughtercard to handle Windows emulation. That would be a real boon to swithcers.
And last time I checked, /. didn't come up with Apple's slogan.
Under the Spotlight System Preference pane, click on the privacy pane and add your pr0n folder.
it's "less than," not "less then."
Perhaps if Sun could hack Swing's native look and feel capabilities to be a little more pervasive, we would have a better solution.