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  1. Re:A disservice on The iPhone Is a Nightmare For Carriers · · Score: 1

    Sometimes I'll offer some pre-sales advice before transfering to the correct department, normally if I'm discussing options regarding which handset they're going for it's because the one they have is faulty or have changed their mind about it within our cooling off period.

    I'm always completely honest with the customers, I'll tell them I'm biased towards Android and if they phone back and speak to another person they'll get completely different answers and the next person will also give them a different answer as there's no such thing as a best phone.

    I think the iPhone is a great gadget, I'm always honest in saying it's a great choice if you want something that just works, but I see Android as a happy medium between iOS and Blackberry. Your average non-technical customer doesn't need an iPhone, they also don't need a Galaxy S2 or a Nexus.

    On our network you are paying for the name, you can get a Galaxy S2 for less than the iPhone 4 8GB (not even the 4S) and you're getting more minutes with the S2. If I'm speaking to someone who just uses their phone for calls and texts and doesn't want anything else neither of them would come into the conversation unless the customer brought them up anyway as a feature phone or one of the low end Android handsets would do nicely.

    Mainly the iPhone comes up in conversation because it's the one phone everyone knows, I'm happy to discuss the pros and cons of any phone with them, but I'll also be up front about the cost (around £900 over 2 years to get the phone for "free", that's with no data and at least two times more minutes than your average customer needs). Normally when I'm discussing Android it's as a replacement for a feature phone and they'll end up with something like the Galaxy Ace or the HTC Wildfire S, Windows 7 phones are cropping up a bit more these days.

    In general terms based on my experience people who want iPhones will stick purely to iPhones, people who use Blackberries will normally stick with them too, you'll get the occasional person who will stick to one specific brand, but most often people see it as iPhones vs Blackberry vs Everything else.

    In terms of issues we get with phones we get amazingly few issues with malware, they may go undetected or it might just not be a massive issue, I'm not sure.

    My advice to friends and family is always to take out a SIM only contract and buy whichever handset they want outright, it's going to cost more up front, but you'll save a lot in the long term.

  2. Re:Apples Warranty on The iPhone Is a Nightmare For Carriers · · Score: 1

    Most seem to offer 24 months, the only exception that springs to mind is LG, but their handsets tend to be pretty low end (at least the few we carry) so we generally take the hit for those ones.

    I agree, warranties are very poorly documented and I don't know how anyone can be expected to know what length they are although I was initially pretty surprised about peoples understanding of it. I generally only come into contact with the customer when first line can't help them and it's getting to the point where the phones are getting booked in for repair. In general customers don't know anything about the warranty on their products, they'll often have the phone for 6 months, it will have developed a fault, call us, we'll do what we can, but ultimately it'll need to get repaired under warranty then they'll ask something like "how much will that cost?" or say something like "but I don't have insurance" although on the flip side of that we'll occupationally get something along the lines of "I've cracked my screen, but it's still under warranty".

    To be honest I'm not a whole lot better when it comes to the way I deal with my purchases, I generally will pay attention to it when I'm buying an expensive gadget, if something goes wrong 99% of the time I'll repair it myself or replace it myself, the only time I look into claiming on the warranty is if something fails a lot earlier than I'd expect it to although I think this job has changed the attitude I'll take to returning or having something repaired in future.

  3. Re:Apples Warranty on The iPhone Is a Nightmare For Carriers · · Score: 1

    I always tell them to make an appointment, I usually tell them to type "genius bar" into google and go to the first match which is "Apple Retail Stores UK" as a URL's are too complicated for a lot of them. I'll normally refer them to you guys as it's a better experience than our stores who are mainly interested in sales and will try and fob the customer off to you anyway (most likely without an appointment).

    Our trashy in-house insurance is insurance, not an extended warranty so it wont help when a phone is faulty. We will generally try and sell them Apple Care and explain the difference, I try to make sure they're aware there would be a charge for a repair if they're outside of the 12 months without Apple Care, but at the same time I despise this sales through service nonsense so I may mention it, but I'll never push the point.

    I don't get commission and I don't work in retentions so I'll be as honest with a customer as I can be and will do what I can to help even if it costs the company money or a customer if it's the right thing to do so keep up the unbiased advise, I'm quite happy with it and you're still sending a lot of customers our way even though we're not the cheapest.

    If someone's asking for advice when it comes to what phone to go for I'll generally steer them away from the iPhone anyway unless that's what they really want, the phrase "you're paying for the name" comes up a lot :)

  4. Re:Apples Warranty on The iPhone Is a Nightmare For Carriers · · Score: 1

    Generally I get away with ordering them up myself as we're encouraged to go over and above when the official policy and processes don't work for the customer, but I handed in my notice today anyway so I wont be worrying about it.

  5. Re:Apples Warranty on The iPhone Is a Nightmare For Carriers · · Score: 1

    Fortunately I've got a great manager that will allow me to do things that other managers wont so I can go outside the company policy to "improve the customer experience" and just order up a new iPhone, but that's generally if they took the contract out directly through us. If they've taken it out through an Apple store or elsewhere they're generally (not 100% of the time) out of luck, but we still get the grief for that as they have an airtime agreement with us.

  6. Apples Warranty on The iPhone Is a Nightmare For Carriers · · Score: 3, Informative

    I work for one of the UK network operators which had made me develop a new level of hatred for iPhones.

    One of the way the iPhone is hurting carriers is that Apple only offer a 12 month warranty as standard, sure you can extend it with Apple Care, but no one bothers even if they take out the iPhone as part of a 24 month contract.

    A customer will phone up over 12 months into an 18 or 24 month contract to say their iPhone is faulty, all we can offer is a chargeable repair as the phone's out of warranty, naturally they're not very happy ("I got it from you, not from apple!") and they'll either want to cancel their contract without any sort of termination fee or get a working phone, 99% of the time if they complain enough they'll get a free of charge replacement iPhone just to keep them happy in the hopes that they'll upgrade at the end of their term (and it works out cheaper than having the call escalate further). This is happening hundreds if not thousands of times a day where I work, sure it happens with other brands too, but to a lesser extent and normally with lower price handsets.

    I'm shocked that so many people are willing to accept a 12 month warranty on a product that markets its self as the best in the market.

  7. Re:Linode on Ask Slashdot: Best Inexpensive VPS Provider? · · Score: 1

    Another vote for Linode.

    They're the only VPS provider I've used so I'm not sure how they compare, but I'm using their basic package for $20 / month and I haven't had any problems and there seems to be a great community based around them so support isn't really an issue.

  8. At Last... on PayPal Launches Facebook App For Sending Money · · Score: 5, Funny

    The two services I wish I could live my online life without.... COMBINED!

  9. Re:RIM are wussing out... on BlackBerry Outage Spreads To North America · · Score: 1

    I share your frustration, RIM have been making the odd statement it certainly doesn't feel like they're doing enough when you're on the front line and you have people who expect their BB to be replaced with an iPhone free of charge because of this outage.

    I'm sure there must be some dialogue between the operators and RIM, but all that's filtering down to my level is pretty much "Yeah, it's up" (when it's not) or "Nah, it's down" so I'm pretty much relying on twitter and the BBC site for information although I'm not blaming RIM for that.

    For consumers I certainly feel that they're on their last legs, their QA sucks as I'm dealing with faulty Blackberries on a daily basis, the Torch was buggy as hell and the BB 9900 is a joke (so many are DoA), I'd never recommend a Blackberry to anybody!

  10. Re:Not Surprised on iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Sell Out · · Score: 1

    No clue what the stock will be like to be honest, I'm just glad that I'm mainly in a 2nd line role as I'll be working on Friday which wont be much fun! Assuming there's stock they'll have no issue buying your contract out, taking out a new contract, buying one outright or going for a fast track upgrade (if you're tariff's over £40 you can buy out what's left minus the 20% and minus VAT, if not you can change your tariff and have it come into effect next day if it'll work out cheaper that way).
    Unless you already have an iPhone or have a lot of purchases on iTunes I'd save some money and go for the Samsung Galaxy SII which is pretty similar spec.

  11. Re:Not Surprised on iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Sell Out · · Score: 2

    Yeah, pretty much although it wont be hard to get around (just find somebody with an unregistered PAYG SIM that's been used at least a month ago). Until stock settles down it'll be for existing customers only, existing customers are called as anybody who has had an O2 phone, dongle or home broadband for at least month before the 4th of October.

  12. Not Surprised on iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Sell Out · · Score: 2

    I currently work in a call centre for a mobile operator that has around 45% of the UKs iPhone customers (should be easy enough to work out who!), I've been speaking to people on a daily basis for months who have enquired about pre-ordering whatever the next iPhone turned out to be. The stats are a big anti-climax, but since the announcement I've been speaking to plenty of people who are upset that we're not taking pre-orders and are threatening to go to the competition.

    Sure the majority of tech savvy people are disappointed with the 4S announcement and were expecting something more, but the majority of iPhone users I've spoken to about it (taking at least 30 calls a day) want one and are returning orders or putting off upgrading in the hopes of getting one, my colleagues have been experiencing the same.

    The average slashdot user wont see what the big deal about the 4S is, most of our friends and colleagues wont either, but your average consumer who's been waiting for the latest iGadget is still going to lap it up, it's new, it's shiny, it's expensive and it's Apple so it MUST be the best!

  13. It depends on the company on Ask Slashdot: Does Being 'Loyal' Pay As a Developer? · · Score: 1

    I think this really depends on the company, the place I used to work for was a small family run company, there was a few insanely loyal employees who had been there for longer than I've been out of high school (and in one case longer than I've been alive), unfortunately for them when redundancies were announced my job was safer than theirs and somebody who had been with the company for about 30 years, would work on his holidays if requested, never had a sick day and knew the directors since they were kids, he was one of the first people to be made redundant, another who had been working for the company had been there for about 15 years was also up for redundancy.
    It was a small family company, we all got on well, it was a close knit group and we'd all quite happily go to the pub together, but at the end of the day it's a business, they'll put the company first if it comes to it so you need to make sure you put yourself first.

  14. Disturbing on HP Investigates Android TouchPads Delivered With Android · · Score: 1

    It might just be me, but I find this rather disturbing, an incorrect OS on a device is a pretty obvious mistake to spot, if HP can accidentally ship TouchPads running an OS they never intended to release then surely there's a real risk of them shipping PCs, servers or switches preloaded with rootkits/backdoors that are designed to be well hidden?

    Maybe I've just been wearing my tinfoil hat for too long though!

  15. RIP Steve on Steve Jobs Dead At 56 · · Score: 1

    Like many I've certainly never been a member of his fan club and I'm not a fan of Apple, but you've got to admit, the guy was good at what he did and it's a real loss. My thoughts are with his friends and family.

  16. Use a VPN.
    I already use one as I don't like my ISPs proxy and I don't like getting redirected to their search page whenever I enter a URL that doesn't resolve. I've setup my own VPN on a VPS so I know exactly what's getting logged (nothing), but at the same time I don't feel it gives me any extra privacy as the IP address can quite easily be linked to me (as I host my personal site on the same server), but if I was being paranoid and was up to something illegal it would be relatively easy to setup a VPS that couldn't easily be linked to me.

  17. Re:overplay.net on Ask Slashdot: Trustworthy Proxy Services? · · Score: 1

    The only thing I really miss about overplay.net is they have a DD-WRT extension so I could allow my home router to handle all the tunnelling for me, but I'm sure if I invested a bit of time I could setup my linode OpenVPN with DD-WRT, but at the moment I'm just not bothered enough to look into it.

  18. Linode.com on Ask Slashdot: Trustworthy Proxy Services? · · Score: 3, Informative

    Full control of what's logged and what's going on, if you use less than 200GB you can get away with paying less than $20/month for their entry level VPS, you'll get your own IP address so it's very unlikely to get blacklisted (as that seems common with a lot of the more popular proxy/VPN providers). You'll need to setup everything yourself, but you get a lot more control, you essentially have your own server to play about with and it's not much more expensive than move VPN providers.

    Before I setup my linode I was using overplay.net who were okay, but they were often quite slow and I did have issues with blacklisting on certain sites and every so often the server I was using would go down.

  19. Thank you Microsoft on Microsoft Dumps Partner For Fake Support Call Scam · · Score: 1

    I'm hoping this bad publicity puts Comantra out of business, but they'll most likely just disappear and pop up under a different name.

    My family members have had calls from a few of these companies and my 84 year old grandpa was recently scammed out of around £85 and had his computer filled with their malware which really pissed me off, he'd just bought a license key for MS Office then a few days later got a call from "Microsoft Windows help desk" or similar saying they've detected a virus on his computer, blah, blah, blah, install our software, pay us money and you'll be fine.

    We really need somebody to go after the people who actually process the payments, if the scammers could only accept payment through western union or bit coins it would trigger a lot more alarm bells in their victims heads. Given the right circumstances even intelligent people who are just a little naive can be taken in by these scammers.

  20. Re:I may have sold fake Cisco on 5 Years In Prison For Selling Fake Cisco Gear · · Score: 1

    I'm out of the IT industry now although I'm looking to get back into it (hands on stuff this time), but at the time (just over a year ago) Ingram weren't too bad for us considering our size and the fact that we never paid the bills on time, we managed to get free shipping for all orders so we could drop ship things, they'd often price match within the channel so we mainly used them and Enta. Ingram gave us a decent level of flexibility when it came to paying on time (i.e. not putting our account on hold the day after we were supposed to pay) as there was a bit of a cash flow issue that really limited our bargaining power, Micro-P, Azlan/C2K, Northamber, Westcoast and a few others were always very keen to get our business, but would either not give us the pricing we needed ("start using us and we'll think about it") or wouldn't give us credit based on their past experience with us.

  21. Re:I may have sold fake Cisco on 5 Years In Prison For Selling Fake Cisco Gear · · Score: 1

    I didn't say anything about Asia, I'm in the UK and we got some stock that was destined for mainland Europe, but the majority of the "grey" stock originated from the UK and was destined for the UK. When buying from brokers instead of through official channel partners for certain other things we often got things destined for the EU market (I remember a lot of netgear home routers we received that had been opened and the power supply obviously swapped for a UK power supply), but 99% of the CISCO stuff we bought was destined for the UK anyway.

    Around the time I left the company there was talks of us getting more involved in the broker side of things, basically you get a Cisco partner, make up a fictitious job that requires enough kit to get Ciscos attention, the partner will have a customer who will be in on it which will be who Cisco thinks the kit is destined for, the partner contacts Cisco for price support, if the broker is happy with the price the sale goes ahead (often supported by Cisco Capital Finance), the partner and their customer take their cut, the broker put their markup on it and sells it on below disti price. As the stock was being sold with price support for Cisco for a specific customer, the moment it gets sold on to anybody else it automatically becomes "grey stock".

    The majority of the time the price was good enough for us to undercut the channel price, but certain things were too cheap such as the GBICs and SFPs.

  22. Re:speculating about the real purpose on 5 Years In Prison For Selling Fake Cisco Gear · · Score: 2

    What government buys their network infrastructure equipment from small businesses? When you guy a router or switch, you are not just buying the hardware, you are buying services and software upgrades.



    My last job was working for a small reseller with less than a dozen staff, we sold to the police, schools, colleges and yes, the local government.

    The company I worked for had been about for around 30 years selling electronics, cable and electrical components (spurs, switches, plugs, fuses, circuit breakers etc.), we were already on the approved suppliers lists so when we started selling IT kit somebody must have thought "well we're already buying our fuses from them, we may as well buy our servers from them too". The people signing off the purchases are very rarely the same people installing or using the equipment and there's a lot of bureaucracy involved when it comes to getting a supplier approved it's often easier to start buying switches and routers from that company that's been selling you boxes of fuses and resistors. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a lot of small resellers whose main source of income is the local government.
  23. I may have sold fake Cisco on 5 Years In Prison For Selling Fake Cisco Gear · · Score: 3, Informative

    After reading this article, some comments and a bit of research on Google I wouldn't be surprised if I unknowingly bought and sold fake Cisco at my last place of work (who have since gone under).

    It was the only job I've had that involved dealing with "The Channel", despite working in both sales then purchasing there I'm still not too clued up about that side of things (it's boring, as you don't get to play with the things you buy) and I'm still quite niave about what goes on.

    We were a Cisco Select partner who frequently got invited along to our local Cisco offices as they were trying to push us more and more towards Cisco SMB stuff, our customers included local police, local government, schools, colleges and installers. We had accounts with Ingram Micro, Azlan/Computer 2000, Micro P, but we very rarely bought Cisco from them. We usually ended up buying "grey market" stock from brokers which was often cheap enough for us to add our mark up and still undercut the distributors, but the thing I'm really wondering about is the dirt cheap "OEM" GBICs and SFPs we used to buy which we'd normally put at least a 300% mark up on and still be cheap, these were one of the few things that weren't stock dependant, our supplier for them always had a good stock of them and they were always dirt cheap so we always had a reasonable stock of them.

    At the time I never thought about the possibility that anything we sold was counterfeit, but looking back I suspect at the very least the GBICs and SFPs were, none of our customers openly questioned why a small company was being able to undercut the likes of Ingram Micro, with some of our closer customers it was a case of "yeah, it's grey stock, but we pass the savings on to YOU", but most of it was don't ask don't tell.

    We were just a small business wanting to play with the big boys, we'd get pricing support from Cisco for big jobs, but we'd tend to take their quotation, remove the prices, send it to the brokers and say "see what you can do" and they'd pretty much always undercut Cisco so for a struggling company who might go under anyway the gamble of buying "grey stock" that could possibly end up being counterfeit will generally pay off.

  24. Old News on Android Password Data Stored In Plain Text · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. This is almost 1 year old "news".
    2. Why does it matter? These passwords are generally transferred in plain text without any sort of encryption anyway (which is another issue, but these old protocols are well known to be insecure without SSL etc.) so if you have access to get to the file in question you have access to sniff out these passwords anyway which is just as simple.
    3. Any one way hashing is no solution if you need to transfer the passwords in plain text anyway, what's your POP3 server going to do with a MD5 hash?

  25. Social Networking Site on Fox Hacks Fark · · Score: 1

    ..stealing source code for a competing Fox social networking site

    Maybe I'm missing something here, but why would Fox steal code from Fark for a social networking site when Rupert Murdoch owns the most popular and best known social networking site there is?