When Intel finally did release the code, they did it under GPL. Thus, completely screwing Sun's ability to include the drivers in their distribution.
If said drivers are important enough, Sun can ask Intel to release them under a non-GPL license expressly for Sun. One of the features of the GPL is that a software creator can also release their work under non-GPL license if they wish.
I imagine if Sun needs/wants those drivers, they can contract with Intel to get them.
Star Office and ApplixWare, before Sun put out OpenOffice, were both viable and useable Office Suites that made Linux more than a 'geeks' toy'.
Granted, interoperability with Microsoft Office wasn't that great. But being Microsoft Compatible is NOT a Litmus test, at least not in the real world. Shit, I have a friend who makes good use of a spreadsheet written in BASIC on a Tandy Model 100. Not as a geek toy. As a useful tool.
Does anybody know if there are Solaris power management features for the Tadpole Sparc laptops? I would suspect there are. Probably with nothing to do with ACPI. Isn't ACPI pretty much a Wintel thing? (and obviously Linux supports it, as it embraces most things Wintel)
There are tons and tons of Laptops that don't work with Linux very good, BTW. Most Linux users who want to run it on a laptop check in advance to make sure. I know I did on my first Laptop bought to run Linux (a Toshiba T2105 486 laptop, that I ended up running NetBSD on instead, as NetBSD ran FAR better on it than Linux)
The grandparent spoke of the UNIX Traditon, not about Sun fanboys versus Linux fanboys. Fanboydom is a relatively new phenomenon. The UNIX tradition goes back before the majority of Fanboys were even a gleam in their daddy's eye. (no, move along. vi vs. emacs is a far more elevated 'struggle' that some fanboy thing)
Shouldn't you folks be out fighting the Intel vs. AMD battles, to save us all?
I have a friend who served in Gulf War I who told me that soldiers would find the 'head' of DU rounds out in the desert, and some brought them back to camp as souvineers. This was before they found out they were depleted uranium. His telling me this made me believe that the 'round' would hit a target and not vaporize. I may be wrong, or it may be that it only vaporizes if it hits it's target.
The fact that soldiers were carrying these things around and some even tried to bring them home shows how some of the 'Gulf War Syndrome' problems may have started.
Star Divison was a German software company who produced StarOffice. In it's earliest incarnations it was a popular 'free' office Suite bundled in the German market for DOS/Windows machines.
In the early days of StarOffice/Linux I was an ApplixWare user. I still have the Red Hat-distributed ApplixWare for Linux CD and manual here somewhere (from back when I bought a whole bunch of commerical Linux boxed software to celebrate the release of Windows 98.)
UNIX was the product of AT&T. They were expressly forbidden from entering non-Telecom markets. They specifically could NOT commercialize UNIX.
It was licensed to various workstation vendors, gradually, and it ran in academia. Also, UNIX at that time was primarily a 'User-friendly' timesharing system. Read in that: very insecure. Compared to the other 'big' OSes in use at that time, UNIX security was considered a joke.
Please, nobody prattle in here in response comparing it to anything Microsoft. Bill Gates was still halfway through puberty in the time frame being discussed.
I work as a contractor right now at an OEM that produces components for GM cars/trucks. One of the main QA people I work with talks often about how he drives a Chrysler vehicle.
Prior to the mass exodus of a few years ago Sun had about the same amount of brain power as any other computer company.
Prior to that, (and still, actually) they had (have) employees who authored some of the classic UNIX docs you find in the Manual**. I.e. the author of vi wrote a tutorial. Oh, and he wrote vi, too. (Bill Joy, of Sun Microsystems)
(** The Manual is the big multi-volume thing that came, often on a skid, with a UNIX installation. My copy is a BSD-era copy in comb bindings)
I'm willing to bet in 300 years we'll have gotten past the whole 'Nation' thing and we'll be prosperous and there will be plenty for everyone. It's likely said prosperity will have been spurred by freedom. Reference 'The Federation' as depicted in Star Trek TNG as one possible scenario. (not the Original 'Cold War' Star Trek, tho)
Why would people be frippering around about race and 'nation' in three hundred years? How quaint.
That's a good idea. However, the only places where you'll find significant numbers of slaves and slave owners today are a few third world regions. Mostly Islamic influenced parts of the world, incidentally.
1. Anybody who owns a press has the freedom to use it as he sees fit.
2. Anybody is allowed to own a press.
That's essentially it.
Unfreedom of the Press is the government intruding, and saying 'You must present opposing viewpoints.'
It makes no sense except in 'limited resource' markets like broadcast television and radio. In the age of cable and satellite, bandwidth isn't a 'government granted monopoly' and the Fairness Doctorine is obsolete.
The most recent computer I've purchased is that I just got a Multibus card cage. It has two processor cards in it, each sporting an 8085 processor.
Before that my most recent computer purchase was an Altos 586 (8086 computer, 512K of RAM, runs a 5-user version of Xenix over serial ports where you plug in a terminal).
And before that, I finally upgraded my Laptop to a Pentium 100 machine. My previous recent laptop upgrade was from a Grayscale VGA 486 laptop to an active-matrix color VGA 486 laptop that had internal CD.
I'm thinking about moving the hard drives from my Slackware box from a Dell Optiplex that has a PIII 550 processor into an Optiplex that has a P1 233 processor (**). It would do most of what that box is needed for and I'd be able to hock the PIII for money on eBay.
(** I bought two skids, with 80 Dell Optiplex systems on them, at auction this past spring for $40. )
If you want to be a true geek, you run factor against all the spare quartz crystals and oscillator blocks in your junkbox, to see which ones factor down to useful frequencies. 'A multiple of 9600 baud, hmmm....'
It's a fairly light page, so it can probably take tons of 'hits' without loading his server down that badly. What it needs for a proper slashdotting is a few MPEGs of some dude lecturing on Prime Numbers.
Prime number generating and factoring programs have been one of my favorite 'kick the tires' tests for any new hardware. This goes way back to early times for me, back to when the only programmable device I could own (back in the 70's) was a programmable calculator. It's still something I throw together and run on about anything programmable I acquire. I've even thrown a routine together for my ancient Tandy PC-8 Pocket Computer. Not sure what speed it runs, but it's gotta be a small fraction of a megahertz. Not sure how the old TI SR-56 I started out with in 1977 would rate.
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When Intel finally did release the code, they did it under GPL. Thus, completely screwing Sun's ability to include the drivers in their distribution.
If said drivers are important enough, Sun can ask Intel to release them under a non-GPL license expressly for Sun. One of the features of the GPL is that a software creator can also release their work under non-GPL license if they wish.
I imagine if Sun needs/wants those drivers, they can contract with Intel to get them.
Star Office and ApplixWare, before Sun put out OpenOffice, were both viable and useable Office Suites that made Linux more than a 'geeks' toy'.
Granted, interoperability with Microsoft Office wasn't that great. But being Microsoft Compatible is NOT a Litmus test, at least not in the real world. Shit, I have a friend who makes good use of a spreadsheet written in BASIC on a Tandy Model 100. Not as a geek toy. As a useful tool.
where is the ACPI support in Solaris?
Does anybody know if there are Solaris power management features for the Tadpole Sparc laptops? I would suspect there are. Probably with nothing to do with ACPI. Isn't ACPI pretty much a Wintel thing? (and obviously Linux supports it, as it embraces most things Wintel)
There are tons and tons of Laptops that don't work with Linux very good, BTW. Most Linux users who want to run it on a laptop check in advance to make sure. I know I did on my first Laptop bought to run Linux (a Toshiba T2105 486 laptop, that I ended up running NetBSD on instead, as NetBSD ran FAR better on it than Linux)
The grandparent spoke of the UNIX Traditon, not about Sun fanboys versus Linux fanboys. Fanboydom is a relatively new phenomenon. The UNIX tradition goes back before the majority of Fanboys were even a gleam in their daddy's eye. (no, move along. vi vs. emacs is a far more elevated 'struggle' that some fanboy thing)
Shouldn't you folks be out fighting the Intel vs. AMD battles, to save us all?
Wasn't one of the founders of Sun Microsystems Bill Joy, who was deeply involved in BSD, and the author of the vi editor, among other things?
I have a friend who served in Gulf War I who told me that soldiers would find the 'head' of DU rounds out in the desert, and some brought them back to camp as souvineers. This was before they found out they were depleted uranium. His telling me this made me believe that the 'round' would hit a target and not vaporize. I may be wrong, or it may be that it only vaporizes if it hits it's target.
The fact that soldiers were carrying these things around and some even tried to bring them home shows how some of the 'Gulf War Syndrome' problems may have started.
Star Divison was a German software company who produced StarOffice. In it's earliest incarnations it was a popular 'free' office Suite bundled in the German market for DOS/Windows machines.
In the early days of StarOffice/Linux I was an ApplixWare user. I still have the Red Hat-distributed ApplixWare for Linux CD and manual here somewhere (from back when I bought a whole bunch of commerical Linux boxed software to celebrate the release of Windows 98.)
UNIX was the product of AT&T. They were expressly forbidden from entering non-Telecom markets. They specifically could NOT commercialize UNIX.
It was licensed to various workstation vendors, gradually, and it ran in academia. Also, UNIX at that time was primarily a 'User-friendly' timesharing system. Read in that: very insecure. Compared to the other 'big' OSes in use at that time, UNIX security was considered a joke.
Please, nobody prattle in here in response comparing it to anything Microsoft. Bill Gates was still halfway through puberty in the time frame being discussed.
I work as a contractor right now at an OEM that produces components for GM cars/trucks. One of the main QA people I work with talks often about how he drives a Chrysler vehicle.
Sun ships the GNOME desktop on hardware they sell to the desktop market.
Didn't Red Hat recently withdraw entirely from the commercial desktop market, and quit selling their software-only product for that market?
Prior to the mass exodus of a few years ago Sun had about the same amount of brain power as any other computer company.
Prior to that, (and still, actually) they had (have) employees who authored some of the classic UNIX docs you find in the Manual**. I.e. the author of vi wrote a tutorial. Oh, and he wrote vi, too. (Bill Joy, of Sun Microsystems)
(** The Manual is the big multi-volume thing that came, often on a skid, with a UNIX installation. My copy is a BSD-era copy in comb bindings)
I once worked at a company where there were several whole floors filled with cubicles with QA people in them, all with Sun Ultrasparc Desktops.
Some of them were proud, even zealous about it. Not many. And they were in the process of replacing them all with cheap Clone PCs.
I'm willing to bet in 300 years we'll have gotten past the whole 'Nation' thing and we'll be prosperous and there will be plenty for everyone. It's likely said prosperity will have been spurred by freedom. Reference 'The Federation' as depicted in Star Trek TNG as one possible scenario. (not the Original 'Cold War' Star Trek, tho)
Why would people be frippering around about race and 'nation' in three hundred years? How quaint.
when DU munitions strike armor or metal, they basically vaporize themselves in a heat flash, allowing DU shells to cut through tank armor.
No. It's just a denser metal and as a result the projectile hits harder and does more damage.
Have I been trolled here?? It's hard to believe such an ignorant idiotic idea could be posted on Slashdot and really be meant.
That's a good idea. However, the only places where you'll find significant numbers of slaves and slave owners today are a few third world regions. Mostly Islamic influenced parts of the world, incidentally.
And you have lots of experience to cite? Or are you just referencing what you heard in the discussion boards on DemocraticUnderground?
Freedom of the Press essentially boils down to:
1. Anybody who owns a press has the freedom to use it as he sees fit.
2. Anybody is allowed to own a press.
That's essentially it.
Unfreedom of the Press is the government intruding, and saying 'You must present opposing viewpoints.'
It makes no sense except in 'limited resource' markets like broadcast television and radio. In the age of cable and satellite, bandwidth isn't a 'government granted monopoly' and the Fairness Doctorine is obsolete.
Calling me ignorant isn't a very good arguement.
The most recent computer I've purchased is that I just got a Multibus card cage. It has two processor cards in it, each sporting an 8085 processor.
Before that my most recent computer purchase was an Altos 586 (8086 computer, 512K of RAM, runs a 5-user version of Xenix over serial ports where you plug in a terminal).
And before that, I finally upgraded my Laptop to a Pentium 100 machine. My previous recent laptop upgrade was from a Grayscale VGA 486 laptop to an active-matrix color VGA 486 laptop that had internal CD.
I'm thinking about moving the hard drives from my Slackware box from a Dell Optiplex that has a PIII 550 processor into an Optiplex that has a P1 233 processor (**). It would do most of what that box is needed for and I'd be able to hock the PIII for money on eBay.
(** I bought two skids, with 80 Dell Optiplex systems on them, at auction this past spring for $40. )
You ruined that guy's life. That Asteroids game was probably a lot of fun.
The LED on front should be jumpered to read 08, in any case. When the turbo button is pressed in, it should read 12.
Them's the rules.
That's nothing. My main Mac is still a Powerbook 165c. I sold the 1400 last year on eBay.
I have two SE/30's, too, but they're not as nice to use as the PB.
I have a dual P1-200 scsi desktop box. It only has the SCSI interface on board, no IDE at all.
I haven't upgraded it. Of course, it's one of a dozen boxes around here actually in use, so oh well.
If I could 'upgrade' every year, I guess I wouldn't have a 4 port KVM switch that's always crowded.
Or something. My fastest machine is a PIII 800.
If you want to be a true geek, you run factor against all the spare quartz crystals and oscillator blocks in your junkbox, to see which ones factor down to useful frequencies. 'A multiple of 9600 baud, hmmm....'
It's a fairly light page, so it can probably take tons of 'hits' without loading his server down that badly. What it needs for a proper slashdotting is a few MPEGs of some dude lecturing on Prime Numbers.
Prime number generating and factoring programs have been one of my favorite 'kick the tires' tests for any new hardware. This goes way back to early times for me, back to when the only programmable device I could own (back in the 70's) was a programmable calculator. It's still something I throw together and run on about anything programmable I acquire. I've even thrown a routine together for my ancient Tandy PC-8 Pocket Computer. Not sure what speed it runs, but it's gotta be a small fraction of a megahertz. Not sure how the old TI SR-56 I started out with in 1977 would rate.