If you've ever run PC-DOS 1.0 and PC-DOS 1.1 and made a comparison (I have, and a few other people probably have the capability of doing so as well) you will realize that DOS 1.1 is almost definitely a complete rewrite. DOS 1.0 is stunted, limited, and well, weird in some ways. DOS 1.1 is what everybody but a very, very few people ever encountered. Hell, the command.com in DOS 1.0 REFUSES TO SKIP PAST the time/date prompt. You enter a properly formatted time and date or it refuses to proceed.
Anyhow, an aside, but anybody who claims Microsoft 'stole' QDOS (and thusly, CP/M) for anything more than a Potemkin village they presented to Microsoft until they could come up with something on their own is either misinformed or lying.
(it was entirely impossible that Gary Kildall could have done business with IBM for the PC Launch. He was Stallmanesqe to the extreme when it came to actual business. Boxed CP/M-86 for the IBM-PC was D.R.'s catchup effort after they realized what their zealous attitude had lost for them)
What I can't wait for is the first time AMD makes a processor that benches slower than it's actual clock speed in comparison to some Intel part. Will they suck it up and call the 4500 MHz part a 4200+, or is it all marketing bullshit through and through?
The Shah wasn't overthrown for being a 'cruel military regime.' There is evidence that he abused power in some ways, but he was overthrown because he was introducing western-style reforms into his country. He offended a bunch of the wrong people by allowing women to be educated, etc.
Well, OSS gives away bits in special patterns on media, anyway. I think the P2P people have established that bits aren't property, nor 'goods' so to speak.
You're referencing a bunch of Cold War history. Mostly the parts of the history that partisans of the other side have spread. You see, it's been fashionable for a long time to be contrary and oppose whomever is 'in power' in places where there is freedom to oppose them.
The places where the CIA engaged in 'dirty tricks' have historically been places where there were two sides playing the dirty trick game. Not that it matters to people who have quietly forgotten there was another side and that it wasn't a happy-joy democratic force.
There are quite a few truly brilliant individuals in Iran and North Korea.
No, actually, unless they've joined the hive and had their dose of the koolaide, it's pretty safe to say that they've been snuffed out, or they escaped to somewhere else.
That's one of the things that sucks about dictatorships, and why dictators work so hard to seal the borders and run expensive policing operations. It's why Stalin murdered so many intellectuals in the 30's.
The days of Mutually Assured Destruction as a deterrent are gone. Any nation that was identified as setting off a Nuke against a US city would simply be destroyed in a retaliatory strike. The Russians wouldn't counter with a strike, and there wouldn't be Nuclear Armageddon.
It would suck, but mostly for whomever nuked the US city.
This is just the 'boycott Nestle' movement from the 70's repeating itself. There isn't enough room on a lapel button to explain a whole corporate conspiracy. And issues have to be kept simple, or the rabble (the people at the rally chanting) might start thinking about more complex issues, and then they won't be chanting.
How can 'Redmond' be number one, when they don't produce a single bit of PDA hardware. Their PDA 'OS' offering is fragmented over a whole handful of platforms from a plethora of hardware vendors.
My favorite Sun box is a SparcStation 10SX. Dual 24-bit framebuffers, and I have the big bright monitors (447L's) to go with it. It's a great box, slowish but with stunning graphics.
Or, perhaps, it will take a major breakdown of the stereotypes of folks like you, who refer to a 'US culture' as this 'evile thing' endangering the whole world.
The countless people struggling to get across the border into the US and participate in the free economy here are testimony enough. Spreading the 'US form of government' is not a colonial undertaking.
But I am certain that for people of a certain age and disposition (and those who choose to remain arrested at that age philosophically), it's more comforting to believe in homespun parodies and stereotypes (the 'ugly american', 'big business', 'evile fundie republican') than it is to grow up, recognize the truth, and live in the real world. I know *I* grew out of that shit radical/liberal mindset.
It's certainly more rewarding in a visceral sense to run around ranting 'Anti-Bush' bullshit than to think. Just like it was in the 'Anti-Reagan' days. Enjoy your subculture. Prepare to look back on yourself as having been a stupid fuck twenty years from now.
And it's a few minutes of work to install the whole GNU toolchain on Solaris, from a CD Sun supplies, or an ISO they supply, or individual packages you download.
Perens can ramble on about ancient history all he likes. It's important to note that it's ancient history.
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Wasn't the Santa Cruz Operation a divison of Microsoft? Didn't they split it off as a business unit, rather than selling it to them?
I have an Altos machine that boots up Microsoft Xenix, BTW (early Xenix, circia 1980.) No mention of SCO in it anywhere.
correction:
"they presented to Microsoft until they could"
(substitute IBM in above)
If you've ever run PC-DOS 1.0 and PC-DOS 1.1 and made a comparison (I have, and a few other people probably have the capability of doing so as well) you will realize that DOS 1.1 is almost definitely a complete rewrite. DOS 1.0 is stunted, limited, and well, weird in some ways. DOS 1.1 is what everybody but a very, very few people ever encountered. Hell, the command.com in DOS 1.0 REFUSES TO SKIP PAST the time/date prompt. You enter a properly formatted time and date or it refuses to proceed.
Anyhow, an aside, but anybody who claims Microsoft 'stole' QDOS (and thusly, CP/M) for anything more than a Potemkin village they presented to Microsoft until they could come up with something on their own is either misinformed or lying.
(it was entirely impossible that Gary Kildall could have done business with IBM for the PC Launch. He was Stallmanesqe to the extreme when it came to actual business. Boxed CP/M-86 for the IBM-PC was D.R.'s catchup effort after they realized what their zealous attitude had lost for them)
Anyhow, back to the usual revisionist history...
The Nestle boycott ended in 1981 because it actually worked.
The dog that chases a car down the street thinks he chased away the car, too.
Not a country.
Mecca.
What I can't wait for is the first time AMD makes a processor that benches slower than it's actual clock speed in comparison to some Intel part. Will they suck it up and call the 4500 MHz part a 4200+, or is it all marketing bullshit through and through?
Who was it that had the trademark 'Excel'?
Can you remember?
If you can't, it wasn't a very defendable trademark, was it?
The dog that chases a car down the street thinks he chased away the car, too.
How's fishing, buddy? I see you're trolling with artificial lures today. Had any luck?
The Shah wasn't overthrown for being a 'cruel military regime.' There is evidence that he abused power in some ways, but he was overthrown because he was introducing western-style reforms into his country. He offended a bunch of the wrong people by allowing women to be educated, etc.
Well, OSS gives away bits in special patterns on media, anyway. I think the P2P people have established that bits aren't property, nor 'goods' so to speak.
Information wants to be free, and all that.
These programs produce real hardware.
You're referencing a bunch of Cold War history. Mostly the parts of the history that partisans of the other side have spread. You see, it's been fashionable for a long time to be contrary and oppose whomever is 'in power' in places where there is freedom to oppose them.
The places where the CIA engaged in 'dirty tricks' have historically been places where there were two sides playing the dirty trick game. Not that it matters to people who have quietly forgotten there was another side and that it wasn't a happy-joy democratic force.
Dumping money on the teacher's union isn't 'investing in our children.' Hiring a good litigation/decertification team might be a good investment.
There are quite a few truly brilliant individuals in Iran and North Korea.
No, actually, unless they've joined the hive and had their dose of the koolaide, it's pretty safe to say that they've been snuffed out, or they escaped to somewhere else.
That's one of the things that sucks about dictatorships, and why dictators work so hard to seal the borders and run expensive policing operations. It's why Stalin murdered so many intellectuals in the 30's.
The days of Mutually Assured Destruction as a deterrent are gone. Any nation that was identified as setting off a Nuke against a US city would simply be destroyed in a retaliatory strike. The Russians wouldn't counter with a strike, and there wouldn't be Nuclear Armageddon.
It would suck, but mostly for whomever nuked the US city.
So it was just an excercise in rhetoric?
This is just the 'boycott Nestle' movement from the 70's repeating itself. There isn't enough room on a lapel button to explain a whole corporate conspiracy. And issues have to be kept simple, or the rabble (the people at the rally chanting) might start thinking about more complex issues, and then they won't be chanting.
Except in the USSR or North Korea, the employees are not allowed to quit and move on to a new job.
Also, we wouldn't be able to have this discussion in an open, public forum, in said countries.
Only libertarians and high school juniors think. . .
Libertarianism is, by the way, the carrying out of fascism by other means
Wow. I guess now we know what only socialists and college freshmen think.
If they are breaking the law, why are you advocating 'underground' fighting methods. Get them prosecuted.
Then the issue can be resolved, i.e. the laws can be repealed, or enforced. Why go to mob-rule tactics immediately?
Or are they not breaking the law, and that was just an excercise in rhetoric?
How can 'Redmond' be number one, when they don't produce a single bit of PDA hardware. Their PDA 'OS' offering is fragmented over a whole handful of platforms from a plethora of hardware vendors.
My favorite Sun box is a SparcStation 10SX. Dual 24-bit framebuffers, and I have the big bright monitors (447L's) to go with it. It's a great box, slowish but with stunning graphics.
But it's not based on a 1968-era 'time sharing' model.
I mean, every PC on everybody's desk needs to be multi-user so we can all log onto one machine together.
Hadn't you heard?
Or, perhaps, it will take a major breakdown of the stereotypes of folks like you, who refer to a 'US culture' as this 'evile thing' endangering the whole world.
The countless people struggling to get across the border into the US and participate in the free economy here are testimony enough. Spreading the 'US form of government' is not a colonial undertaking.
But I am certain that for people of a certain age and disposition (and those who choose to remain arrested at that age philosophically), it's more comforting to believe in homespun parodies and stereotypes (the 'ugly american', 'big business', 'evile fundie republican') than it is to grow up, recognize the truth, and live in the real world. I know *I* grew out of that shit radical/liberal mindset.
It's certainly more rewarding in a visceral sense to run around ranting 'Anti-Bush' bullshit than to think. Just like it was in the 'Anti-Reagan' days. Enjoy your subculture. Prepare to look back on yourself as having been a stupid fuck twenty years from now.
And it's a few minutes of work to install the whole GNU toolchain on Solaris, from a CD Sun supplies, or an ISO they supply, or individual packages you download.
Perens can ramble on about ancient history all he likes. It's important to note that it's ancient history.