My point wasn't that privacy is not important. My point is that YOU are not important...and I'm right. You're not.
Which is entirely beside the point.
You are irrelevant to The Man until you become a "problem" and all this data gathering is for instant dossiers on people who become a "problem." To nail the head that sticks up.
Privacy is a human right because without it people are unable to effect change - they remain powerless. There is nobody on the planet without a skeleton in the closet, and exposing that skeleton is what this is all really about. It's national-level Borking, to remove any kind of power from people who would oppose a police-state.
That's why.
You, sir, are a short-sighted douchebag and, through your apathy, an enemy to everyone on this planet.
It all has to do with pricing and being "good enough" - not absolute quality.
Unix (Linux these days) taking over basically everything is because VMS was never Free or free, and if you thought "Unix Pricing" was expensive, you never saw "VMS Pricing" or "IBM Pricing" ($5,000 to snip a "blue" wire to enable a feature.) The latter two things are the driving force behind all these clusters of adapted off-the-shelf microcomputers in racks to used as "mainframes."
Unix (and now Linux) is "good enough" - it does the job and doesn't rape your pocketbook. Even proprietary Unix and Unix support contracts compared to VMS has always been less expensive than a full-blown installation and support contract of VMS.
The only ones who use VMS these days are businesses or other organizations with 40-year-old COBOL code and actually need the tools and security that VMS offers, and that "fucking with something that currently works" is anathema.
But that doesn't make Unix superior.
Anyone claiming that any flavor of Unix is better than VMS is either talking out of his asshole or never used VMS and Files-11. Furthermore, the Windows idiots claiming that Dave Cutler brought VMS technology to Windows are delusional - complete with the WNT=VMS+1 nonsense.
As opposed to the private credit rating agencies that have all your personal credit information with zero transparency and accountability?
Remember the ol' "OH NOES DEATH PANELS" panic and propaganda that Fox, the Tea Pottyers, and Sarah Palin were trying to sow? I found it hilarious, considering I had HMO coverage through United Health at the time.
Even a 1% public interest (what this is) is better than the anti-public-interest we have right now.
Soviet-Canuckistan
We demand the freedom to be fucked by corporate interests! I demand to pay twice as much as Canadians do and get worse healthcare!
Longer answer: No and it's not as eco-friendly as people would like you to believe.
1. You need to farm it. Farms in general are never eco-friendly as they eliminate habitat.
2. You still need to use epoxy to bond the strands together. This epoxy is nearly identical to the epoxy used in carbon fiber and fiberglass and is just as nasty.
3. The claim that it would break down in landfills is bogus. Material decomposition in landfills is slow due to the anaerobic nature of landfills. Also, bamboo encased in epoxy isn't going to decompose like typical un-worked bamboo.
And since bamboo is weaker than carbon fiber, but more expensive than fiberglass, I expect it to never take the place of either, except in decorative modes.
Yes, I know, you can build a bamboo frame bicycle that performs well, but it's expensive and a novelty. When it's not done well....recoil in horror: http://www.instructables.com/i...
The intelligence community isn't doing this in bad faith.
Ho ho. If it wasn't in bad faith, why has Keith Alexander been lying through his teeth all this time?
Not everyone is your enemy just because you disagree on how to accomplish a goal.
When you're treated as the enemy as the American people have been by the intelligence community, what else would you expect the reaction to be? Rainbows and unicorns?
Sorry, but doubling down on Total Information Awareness in secret after it had been shouted down publicly and repeatedly is a sign of a rogue agency out for its own interests.
Here in Concord NH, that Tea Potty Paradise, there is a duopoly
Expensive broadband that tops out at 15Mbps but with a company that sort-of caters to the consumer (no caps, no filtering of torrents, etc) - Fairpoint - a Verizon spinoff that was saddled with debt.
Or....
Comcast, a company that is mind-blowingly bad to deal with, has caps, will filter your torrents/other traffic, but has higher speeds.
The point that sailed clear over your head is that the Chinese are willing to put the effort into bringing the nation into the 21'st century, while we here in the west have some sort of fantasy that we'll somehow profit off of *their* efforts without having to do any of our own.
It's an entitlement mentality here in the West, one fostered by the so-called "investment" community that has laid waste to our own riches by selling our assets overseas for cheap and taking the cut off the top for the transactions.
. China has advanced by exploiting cheap labor. Not innovation
And the "Colonies" exploited cheap and plentiful waterways, tons and tons of fossil fuel, and technology to create the Industrial Revolution in the US, thus releasing our dependence on expensive English and other "foreign" textiles and machinery.
China has learned what John Cabot and Samuel Slater learned - that innovation goes to where the production is. Where production goes, the scientific and engineering talent will follow. We, bucko, have largely forgotten that. We rested on our laurels starting in the late 60s and continue to do so.
In the 80s, Deng Xiaoping finally got people to listen to the fact that science & technology isn't just a "western" idea - that it's decidedly Chinese - and that it was time that the Chinese were no longer dependent on western interests. The only reason why China is behind Japan and Korea is that the Maoists held back China technologically and intellectually after WWII. Had Mao not had his Cultural Revolution, they'd probably be on the same level as Japan, technologically.
I read your comment and it's exactly what I heard about the Japanese and Koreans 40 years ago.
What good is a STEM education when it can't be fucking applied?
No, Obama doesn't get a pass. In order to "compromise" he threw all the other options off the table. Like he's done with just about everything.
The only difference between getting Romney elected last time and Obama is that Romney would have had us "boots on the ground" in Iran within two or three months of inauguration, because the neocon chicken-hawks had their hooks into him (Dan Senor said we'd invade Iran at the behest of Israel on Meet The Press and Romney never corrected him, for example.)
You know, I read your reply to me, and I was going to logically take it apart piece by piece, but I've come to the conclusion you're an idiot.
3 replies:
1. The "appification" of the web needs to die. Yesterday. 2. If Firefox is just another "go along to get along" browser, then it should die too. 3. Your arguments are invalid.
Your mother doesn't know what net neutrality is or how it will affect her
It has taken me years, sometimes, to convince various people in real life that the "big blue E" is not "the internet" nevermind trying to convince them that network neutrality is not "socializum."
And the only politicians that get this are people like Jared Polis or Zoe Lofgren, and they are as scarce as fucking hen's teeth. The rest are either willfully ignorant/stupid technophobes or just paid-off and in the pockets of the industry insiders.
I've talked about this shit for over a decade - until I'm blue in the face - that the FCC should just come out and declare ISPs to be common carriers and it all meets people with fingers in their ears saying "LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"
Sorry, but we're fucked unless you can invent some sort of pill that eliminates greed and bloody-mindedness all in one fell swoop.
Because the Internet (or Fidonet, WWIVnet, or USENET) was never used as a means of world-wide cultural exchange before this. Or that home-bound "elderly Americans (or older/and/or/disabled people in other countries)" haven't been using amateur radio to keep in touch or rag chew with other people in other countries and collect QSL cards for decades before that.
Your post itself is stereotyping and deserves a "flamebait" mod instead of "interesting."
>Freshly minted account >Only posts on this thread - no other posts on anything ever >Friends: dingl_ (3643599) is all alone in the world. >Blaming the user >Blaming the OEM >Blaming anyone but Microsoft
That's why I actually have a password list on paper... At home, in my apartment
Bruce Schneier actually recommends writing your passwords down. He says "in your wallet" rather in "your apartment" but yeah, he recommends it for most people.
When people tell me not to write passwords down, I point them at Bruce and say "argue with that guy."
The way email works might be part of your specialist knowledge
Every internet guide for "Dummies" since the dawn of time/the Internet says that email is no more than a postcard.
It's not "specialist knowledge.
Encryption for email is the rough equivalent of using https to access a web page, or WPA encryption at the router, which many "neophytes" know about already. If your mind flies away from your skull and disappears when encryption is mentioned in conjunction with email, the problem lies with your inability apply one concept in one use with another use. It's like knowing how to cook a rack of ribs on the barbecue and then getting completely befuddled when someone asks you to cook a steak and then refusing to crack open a cookbook. It's/your/ fault.
I've been talking about this stuff for the last 20(mumble) years, since the US government threatened Phil Zimmerman with jail. After two decades of people simply refusing to listen, my conclusion is that the problem lies with them, and not me. And it's not like I'm a bad teacher. I can teach someone the entirety of trigonometry concepts in the space of 20 minutes (and they understand it), though I'm not quite as good as Vi Hart.
Just because someone else is doing a lousy job does not mean that you suddenly have a license to short-change them for what you're obligated to do.
TAs spent as little as a minute or two per essay
Read what you just posted. Then read it again.
The only person being shortchanged in this case is the student who is actually footing the fucking bill for an education. If the education is a fraud because grading is done on whim and in a slapdash manner, which is what you are describing, then what is the fucking point for all that fucking debt and potential financial ruin?
What you describe makes "diploma mills" look positively ethical and shows how much of a scam higher-ed has become.
If you don't know that there are other email providers or that you can set up your own mail server, then the problem lies with/you/, not Google.
But that's only the beginning. If you don't want people looking at your stuff, encrypt it. Email is a postcard without any ability to put an "envelope" around it except full-on encryption. Otherwise/anyone/ in the RECEIVED: chain and Tinfoil Agencies can read it.^2
Sorry, but your argument is invalid.
-- BMO
Footnotes:
1. My oldest active email address is literally in someone's basement on their LAN. For 18 years, roughly.
2. Before the idiots chime in here and say "but nobody should be looking at all!!#$!$#!@#" - not every country has the same privacy laws, and not every provider in the RECEIVED: chain has the same policies. Depending on Google to defend your privacy with plaintext messages is dumb.
Before the Bush administration, the NSA mostly had two basic roles: 1. To help with information, computing, and communications security and 2. To spy on foreign nationals and foreign governments. After 9/11 their mission was changed, to assume that the entire US population was the enemy.
Slashdot Mirror
PS put your signature line in your signature file
No.
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BMO
>microbes eating plastic
You're not the only one to ask that question.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/...
I picked that book up in the 70s and the story sorta stuck with me. Worth the read.
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BMO
My point wasn't that privacy is not important. My point is that YOU are not important...and I'm right. You're not.
Which is entirely beside the point.
You are irrelevant to The Man until you become a "problem" and all this data gathering is for instant dossiers on people who become a "problem." To nail the head that sticks up.
Privacy is a human right because without it people are unable to effect change - they remain powerless. There is nobody on the planet without a skeleton in the closet, and exposing that skeleton is what this is all really about. It's national-level Borking, to remove any kind of power from people who would oppose a police-state.
That's why.
You, sir, are a short-sighted douchebag and, through your apathy, an enemy to everyone on this planet.
Ta Ta.
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BMO
It all has to do with pricing and being "good enough" - not absolute quality.
Unix (Linux these days) taking over basically everything is because VMS was never Free or free, and if you thought "Unix Pricing" was expensive, you never saw "VMS Pricing" or "IBM Pricing" ($5,000 to snip a "blue" wire to enable a feature.) The latter two things are the driving force behind all these clusters of adapted off-the-shelf microcomputers in racks to used as "mainframes."
Unix (and now Linux) is "good enough" - it does the job and doesn't rape your pocketbook. Even proprietary Unix and Unix support contracts compared to VMS has always been less expensive than a full-blown installation and support contract of VMS.
The only ones who use VMS these days are businesses or other organizations with 40-year-old COBOL code and actually need the tools and security that VMS offers, and that "fucking with something that currently works" is anathema.
But that doesn't make Unix superior.
Anyone claiming that any flavor of Unix is better than VMS is either talking out of his asshole or never used VMS and Files-11. Furthermore, the Windows idiots claiming that Dave Cutler brought VMS technology to Windows are delusional - complete with the WNT=VMS+1 nonsense.
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BMO
As opposed to the private credit rating agencies that have all your personal credit information with zero transparency and accountability?
Remember the ol' "OH NOES DEATH PANELS" panic and propaganda that Fox, the Tea Pottyers, and Sarah Palin were trying to sow? I found it hilarious, considering I had HMO coverage through United Health at the time.
Even a 1% public interest (what this is) is better than the anti-public-interest we have right now.
Soviet-Canuckistan
We demand the freedom to be fucked by corporate interests! I demand to pay twice as much as Canadians do and get worse healthcare!
--
BMO
No.
Longer answer: No and it's not as eco-friendly as people would like you to believe.
1. You need to farm it. Farms in general are never eco-friendly as they eliminate habitat.
2. You still need to use epoxy to bond the strands together. This epoxy is nearly identical to the epoxy used in carbon fiber and fiberglass and is just as nasty.
3. The claim that it would break down in landfills is bogus. Material decomposition in landfills is slow due to the anaerobic nature of landfills. Also, bamboo encased in epoxy isn't going to decompose like typical un-worked bamboo.
And since bamboo is weaker than carbon fiber, but more expensive than fiberglass, I expect it to never take the place of either, except in decorative modes.
Yes, I know, you can build a bamboo frame bicycle that performs well, but it's expensive and a novelty. When it's not done well....recoil in horror: http://www.instructables.com/i...
Yeah, I'll take a steel frame, plox.
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BMO
The intelligence community isn't doing this in bad faith.
Ho ho. If it wasn't in bad faith, why has Keith Alexander been lying through his teeth all this time?
Not everyone is your enemy just because you disagree on how to accomplish a goal.
When you're treated as the enemy as the American people have been by the intelligence community, what else would you expect the reaction to be? Rainbows and unicorns?
Sorry, but doubling down on Total Information Awareness in secret after it had been shouted down publicly and repeatedly is a sign of a rogue agency out for its own interests.
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BMO
>Just because you have a cable company and a DSL provider doesn't mean you have competition.
No shit. Isn't that what I said?
I have you foed because of your lack of reading comprehension.
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BMO
>Competition
Here in Concord NH, that Tea Potty Paradise, there is a duopoly
Expensive broadband that tops out at 15Mbps but with a company that sort-of caters to the consumer (no caps, no filtering of torrents, etc) - Fairpoint - a Verizon spinoff that was saddled with debt.
Or....
Comcast, a company that is mind-blowingly bad to deal with, has caps, will filter your torrents/other traffic, but has higher speeds.
Neither of which are really any good.
Competition? Where the fuck is it?
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BMO
The point that sailed clear over your head is that the Chinese are willing to put the effort into bringing the nation into the 21'st century, while we here in the west have some sort of fantasy that we'll somehow profit off of *their* efforts without having to do any of our own.
It's an entitlement mentality here in the West, one fostered by the so-called "investment" community that has laid waste to our own riches by selling our assets overseas for cheap and taking the cut off the top for the transactions.
Useful Idiots indeed.
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BMO
. China has advanced by exploiting cheap labor. Not innovation
And the "Colonies" exploited cheap and plentiful waterways, tons and tons of fossil fuel, and technology to create the Industrial Revolution in the US, thus releasing our dependence on expensive English and other "foreign" textiles and machinery.
China has learned what John Cabot and Samuel Slater learned - that innovation goes to where the production is. Where production goes, the scientific and engineering talent will follow. We, bucko, have largely forgotten that. We rested on our laurels starting in the late 60s and continue to do so.
In the 80s, Deng Xiaoping finally got people to listen to the fact that science & technology isn't just a "western" idea - that it's decidedly Chinese - and that it was time that the Chinese were no longer dependent on western interests. The only reason why China is behind Japan and Korea is that the Maoists held back China technologically and intellectually after WWII. Had Mao not had his Cultural Revolution, they'd probably be on the same level as Japan, technologically.
I read your comment and it's exactly what I heard about the Japanese and Koreans 40 years ago.
What good is a STEM education when it can't be fucking applied?
You and your ilk are the fucking problem.
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BMO
No, Obama doesn't get a pass. In order to "compromise" he threw all the other options off the table. Like he's done with just about everything.
The only difference between getting Romney elected last time and Obama is that Romney would have had us "boots on the ground" in Iran within two or three months of inauguration, because the neocon chicken-hawks had their hooks into him (Dan Senor said we'd invade Iran at the behest of Israel on Meet The Press and Romney never corrected him, for example.)
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BMO
You know, I read your reply to me, and I was going to logically take it apart piece by piece, but I've come to the conclusion you're an idiot.
3 replies:
1. The "appification" of the web needs to die. Yesterday.
2. If Firefox is just another "go along to get along" browser, then it should die too.
3. Your arguments are invalid.
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BMO
If Firefox did not support DRM directly, the content providers would offer a custom (closed source) tool that did."
So?
It's not their /job/ to do that. It's their job to make a F/OSS browser. It's in their fucking "Mozilla Manifesto"
DRM isn't Free. They have failed. And to somehow justify it by saying "someone else will do it anyway" is schoolyard "logic"/ rationalization.
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BMO
You're totally offtopic, but this needs a reply.
Obama and the Democrats CAN'T be THAT incompetent, can they? One would think Obamacare was DESIGNED to destroy healthcare in the US.
It was designed that way because it's a HERITAGE FOUNDATION design, which is why Romney picked it for MA.
For all of the "socialist policies" of Obama, he sure seems to be supporting the right-wing policies of his predecessor and think tanks.
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BMO
Your mother doesn't know what net neutrality is or how it will affect her
It has taken me years, sometimes, to convince various people in real life that the "big blue E" is not "the internet" nevermind trying to convince them that network neutrality is not "socializum."
And the only politicians that get this are people like Jared Polis or Zoe Lofgren, and they are as scarce as fucking hen's teeth. The rest are either willfully ignorant/stupid technophobes or just paid-off and in the pockets of the industry insiders.
I've talked about this shit for over a decade - until I'm blue in the face - that the FCC should just come out and declare ISPs to be common carriers and it all meets people with fingers in their ears saying "LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"
Sorry, but we're fucked unless you can invent some sort of pill that eliminates greed and bloody-mindedness all in one fell swoop.
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BMO
Because the Internet (or Fidonet, WWIVnet, or USENET) was never used as a means of world-wide cultural exchange before this. Or that home-bound "elderly Americans (or older/and/or/disabled people in other countries)" haven't been using amateur radio to keep in touch or rag chew with other people in other countries and collect QSL cards for decades before that.
Your post itself is stereotyping and deserves a "flamebait" mod instead of "interesting."
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BMO
They should be banned lest criminals use these.
Criminals use oxygen.
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BMO
>Freshly minted account
>Only posts on this thread - no other posts on anything ever
>Friends: dingl_ (3643599) is all alone in the world.
>Blaming the user
>Blaming the OEM
>Blaming anyone but Microsoft
Oh look, a new Microsoft shill account.
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BMO
That's why I actually have a password list on paper ...
At home, in my apartment
Bruce Schneier actually recommends writing your passwords down. He says "in your wallet" rather in "your apartment" but yeah, he recommends it for most people.
When people tell me not to write passwords down, I point them at Bruce and say "argue with that guy."
https://www.schneier.com/blog/...
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BMO
The way email works might be part of your specialist knowledge
Every internet guide for "Dummies" since the dawn of time/the Internet says that email is no more than a postcard.
It's not "specialist knowledge.
Encryption for email is the rough equivalent of using https to access a web page, or WPA encryption at the router, which many "neophytes" know about already. If your mind flies away from your skull and disappears when encryption is mentioned in conjunction with email, the problem lies with your inability apply one concept in one use with another use. It's like knowing how to cook a rack of ribs on the barbecue and then getting completely befuddled when someone asks you to cook a steak and then refusing to crack open a cookbook. It's /your/ fault.
I've been talking about this stuff for the last 20(mumble) years, since the US government threatened Phil Zimmerman with jail. After two decades of people simply refusing to listen, my conclusion is that the problem lies with them, and not me. And it's not like I'm a bad teacher. I can teach someone the entirety of trigonometry concepts in the space of 20 minutes (and they understand it), though I'm not quite as good as Vi Hart.
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BMO
Just because someone else is doing a lousy job does not mean that you suddenly have a license to short-change them for what you're obligated to do.
TAs spent as little as a minute or two per essay
Read what you just posted. Then read it again.
The only person being shortchanged in this case is the student who is actually footing the fucking bill for an education. If the education is a fraud because grading is done on whim and in a slapdash manner, which is what you are describing, then what is the fucking point for all that fucking debt and potential financial ruin?
What you describe makes "diploma mills" look positively ethical and shows how much of a scam higher-ed has become.
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BMO
>It feels like an invasion of privacy.
Then use someone else.^1 It's not difficult.
If you don't know that there are other email providers or that you can set up your own mail server, then the problem lies with /you/, not Google.
But that's only the beginning. If you don't want people looking at your stuff, encrypt it. Email is a postcard without any ability to put an "envelope" around it except full-on encryption. Otherwise /anyone/ in the RECEIVED: chain and Tinfoil Agencies can read it.^2
Sorry, but your argument is invalid.
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BMO
Footnotes:
1. My oldest active email address is literally in someone's basement on their LAN. For 18 years, roughly.
2. Before the idiots chime in here and say "but nobody should be looking at all!!#$!$#!@#" - not every country has the same privacy laws, and not every provider in the RECEIVED: chain has the same policies. Depending on Google to defend your privacy with plaintext messages is dumb.
>NSA is important
Before the Bush administration, the NSA mostly had two basic roles: 1. To help with information, computing, and communications security and 2. To spy on foreign nationals and foreign governments. After 9/11 their mission was changed, to assume that the entire US population was the enemy.
Alan Turing is long dead.
Fuck off.
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BMO
>manufactured meat substitutes aren't good.
You haven't tried "Ambrosia Plus" from Triplanetary Foods yet.
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BMO