You mean the insurance companies themselves? You know, the ones that would rather see you die than hand over the money for chemotherapy? Even if the US has the best healthcare in the world (we don't) it doesn't do you any good if you can't fucking pay for it in the so-called "free market" (which never existed, ever, except in your fevered imagination).
>ditto for net neutrality
Yeah, another imbecilic "talking point" originated by the right-wing-media owners (not you, obviously), tacitly agreed to by the left-wing media giants, and circulated round-and-round in the echo chamber-pots of the right-wing-nut-0-sphere.
a public that isn't particularly well versed on the issue or why they should care.
Because they have the likes of Fox, Murdoch "news" - everything from the Sun to the WSJ, TW, Rush Limbaugh and the rest telling them lies about it, shouting SOCIALISM#$!#@$!@#
Arthur: Old woman! Dennis: MAN! Arthur: Man, sorry. What knight lives in that castle over there? Dennis: I'm 37. Arthur: What? Dennis: I'm 37! I'm not old! Arthur: Well, I can't just call you "man". Dennis: You could say "Dennis". Arthur: I didn't know you were called Dennis. Dennis: Well you didn't bother to find out, did you? Arthur: I did say I'm sorry about the "old woman", but from behind you looked......
Arthur: The Lady of the Lake,... [Angel chorus begins singing in background] her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. [Angel chorus ends] That is why I am your king! Dennis: Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
This is great and all, but I really don't see any reason to reinvent the wheel besides anal-retentiveness about licenses and Not Invented Here. KDE's libs (and the Qt they're using) are LGPL.
KDE license requirements (a partial list)
LGPL version 2.1 as listed in kdelibs/COPYING.LIB or later LGPL version 2.1, or version 3 or later versions approved by the membership of KDE e.V. BSD license as listed below. Ensure that the BSD license does not contain the so called 'advertisement clause'.
Qt license for free software is LGPL or GPL 3.0.
Qt is available under three different licensing options designed to accommodate the needs of our various users.
Qt licensed under our commercial license agreement is appropriate for development of proprietary/commercial software where you do not want to share any source code with third parties or otherwise cannot comply with the terms of the GNU LGPL version 2.1 or GNU GPL version 3.0.
Qt licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL) version 2.1 is appropriate for the development of Qt applications provided you can comply with the terms and conditions of the GNU LGPL version 2.1.
Qt licensed under the GNU General Public License (GPL) version 3.0 is appropriate for the development of Qt applications where you wish to use such applications in combination with software subject to the terms of the GNU GPL version 3.0 or where you are otherwise willing to comply with the terms of the GNU GPL version 3.0.
Documentation for free software based on Qt is FDL.
The argument that there isn't already another desktop based on Qt is obviated by the existence of the Razor desktop, which could really use the extra development help. Why start from scratch when you already have this?
Kay Sievers sucks. Now, if we can just ban Lennart Poettering's code too, we can start getting back on track. They both suck. Most of their contributions are ungainly, ugly abominations and Systemd is the suck on the suck of it. These guys are from the first wave of Winblows lusers getting involved in Linux and beginning the great ruination. The first wave of people to get involved with Linux (e.g. Alan Cox, Donald Becker, etc.) were all Unix people, and they did things gracefully, as god wanted. Then these fucking Philistines came along and started ruining everything. They don't care about Unix and they do shit work. They make Linux suck like Winblows more and more. Good riddance! Good riddance! Good riddance! Systmed is NOT a drop in init replacement. It sucks to high heaven. I've watched presentations with Sievers mocking the idea of making sure it works with other Unices (what a parochial minded fucking luser). I could write a book on how these guys, their ilk and all their shit is suck, suck, suck.
Really? You lump these two together? One is designed to be opaque to user preferences, and the other is obsequious to the user - there are so many "knobs and levers" that I can get KDE to work for me instead of against me easily.
That and Qt is the cat's balls.
inb4 "b...but Qt is C++!#@!$!#@%$!$^%"
There are bindings even for BASIC if you want. I haven't looked, but I wouldn't be surprised if you could use Brainfuck.
BMO was rather obviously trying to answer the implied question (that needs to be solved if the issues are to be addressed) "Why (are) women apparently (...) unable or unwilling to following a career in the computing fields".
Winner winner chicken dinner.
I'm as guilty of it as most, I'd guess.
As am I, but I have been making an effort to be less so, sometimes.
There is much said about how the IT and computing fields are meritocracies. Recent articles even here have put the lie to that.
DMARC requires that the FROM field also match the sending server
REALLY?
This is the stupidest thing I've seen in a long time.
In spam fighting circles, the FROM header is universally ignored, because it can be anything. We don't fucking care what the FROM header says. Indeed, treating the FROM header as "accurate" leads to insanity like joe-jobs.
Whoever came up with that idea should schedule a meeting with Bill Mattocks' wooden mallet. "My sense of personal integrity is none of your concern." -thus spake Walt "Pickle Jar" Rines
"I'm going to pound your balls flat with a wooden mallet." -thus respondeth Bill Mattocks
A few years ago I believe the courts determined that these programs where legitimate programs and listing them as spyware or malware was illegal.
No they didn't.
A lot of spammers and malware authors shout about "free speach" but the only court case where a spammer won was where Spamhaus replied to the lawsuit but didn't show up. Which was later overturned.
If you jailbreak your car, however, and inadvertently change something that impairs reliability, you're compromising the safety of everybody else on the road.
Yeah? So? That's what insurance is for.
Secondly, you don't seem to have remembered that there are over 100 years of DIY automobile engineering (commonly called hotrodding).
College is about learning theory and how to apply it, it isn't a vocational program.
When you have a $100k bill to pay off that you can't escape through bankruptcy, you'd better have some way to pay it off. When you have a trillion dollar debt problem based upon this (see previous slashdot headlines) you have what they call a "real problem."
What you say is a nice sentiment. It's a sentiment that was only valid 40 years ago, when a summer job every year could pay for tuition at Northeastern.
It is also preposterous to not teach the concepts of security for devices connected to hostile environments (i.e., every network ever), and networking is not a "fad." The only people that thought that the Internet and networking in general for "the great unwashed" were fads were "futurists" like Cliff Stoll who were wildly wrong in 1995.
It's funny how nearly all, to a one, who are mad at you are "anonymous cowards"
If their opinion mattered, they'd have at least an alias to reply to.
Guys, Martian isn't a troll. He's been just saying something that nearly all of us with two brain cells to rub together have been saying about a touch interface on a DESKTOP operating system.
You want to point at the screen so much? Go retrofit a light-pen for your XP laptop.
It's like taking antidepressants. The world just feels too comfortable.'"
Spoken like a person who has never used antidepressants or understands or how they work, or just buys into the nonsensical Scientologist bullshit.
Antidepressants aren't magic happy pills and they aren't some sort of metaphorical rose coloured glasses.
They take the edge off. That's it. They give you the chance to back away from the emotional precipice that you would otherwise jump from. Some are better than others (Paxil sucks for many many people, for example) but properly used, they help people restore their lives from what was a bottomless pit.
Depression is the third leading cause of death. Probably the main cause of preventable death since if you don't kill yourself yourself outright, you tend to not give a shit about "healthy living" and shave 20 years off your lifespan with heart disease and other crap.
And you are surprised at this? If you are, you're a moron.
"Social security is going broke!!!#$#!@$@#%11ON#"
No it isn't you stupid fuck, not if the legislature tweaks it A LITTLE BIT. But no, we have teabaggers and corporatists crying about the "47 percent that don't pay taxes" lie.
Slashdot Mirror
>Modded offtopic
I guess the endless editorials against net-neutrality by the WSJ are all off-topic?
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BMO
>death panels
You mean the insurance companies themselves? You know, the ones that would rather see you die than hand over the money for chemotherapy? Even if the US has the best healthcare in the world (we don't) it doesn't do you any good if you can't fucking pay for it in the so-called "free market" (which never existed, ever, except in your fevered imagination).
>ditto for net neutrality
Yeah, another imbecilic "talking point" originated by the right-wing-media owners (not you, obviously), tacitly agreed to by the left-wing media giants, and circulated round-and-round in the echo chamber-pots of the right-wing-nut-0-sphere.
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BMO
a public that isn't particularly well versed on the issue or why they should care.
Because they have the likes of Fox, Murdoch "news" - everything from the Sun to the WSJ, TW, Rush Limbaugh and the rest telling them lies about it, shouting SOCIALISM#$!#@$!@#
That's why.
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BMO
>old woman's
Right-O, Arthur.
Arthur: Old woman! ...
Dennis: MAN!
Arthur: Man, sorry. What knight lives in that castle over there?
Dennis: I'm 37.
Arthur: What?
Dennis: I'm 37! I'm not old!
Arthur: Well, I can't just call you "man".
Dennis: You could say "Dennis".
Arthur: I didn't know you were called Dennis.
Dennis: Well you didn't bother to find out, did you?
Arthur: I did say I'm sorry about the "old woman", but from behind you looked...
Arthur: The Lady of the Lake,... [Angel chorus begins singing in background]
her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the
bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry
Excalibur. [Angel chorus ends] That is why I am your king!
Dennis: Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for
a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from
the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
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BMO
dummy cord cutters
Cable company (probably Comcast/TW) shill spotted.
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BMO
This is great and all, but I really don't see any reason to reinvent the wheel besides anal-retentiveness about licenses and Not Invented Here. KDE's libs (and the Qt they're using) are LGPL.
KDE license requirements (a partial list)
LGPL version 2.1 as listed in kdelibs/COPYING.LIB or later
LGPL version 2.1, or version 3 or later versions approved by the membership of KDE e.V.
BSD license as listed below.
Ensure that the BSD license does not contain the so called 'advertisement clause'.
Qt license for free software is LGPL or GPL 3.0.
Documentation for free software based on Qt is FDL.
The argument that there isn't already another desktop based on Qt is obviated by the existence of the Razor desktop, which could really use the extra development help. Why start from scratch when you already have this?
http://razor-qt.org/
This reeks of Not Invented Here syndrome.
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BMO
Because the Republican "cut taxes while spending trillions invading other countries" works out so well.
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BMO
Why bother with the shotgun and waste the rounds conducting this worthless experiment.
Because it's fun.
You must be loads of laughs at a party.
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BMO
QFT:
Kay Sievers sucks. Now, if we can just ban Lennart Poettering's code too, we can start getting back on track. They both suck. Most of their contributions are ungainly, ugly abominations and Systemd is the suck on the suck of it. These guys are from the first wave of Winblows lusers getting involved in Linux and beginning the great ruination. The first wave of people to get involved with Linux (e.g. Alan Cox, Donald Becker, etc.) were all Unix people, and they did things gracefully, as god wanted. Then these fucking Philistines came along and started ruining everything. They don't care about Unix and they do shit work. They make Linux suck like Winblows more and more. Good riddance! Good riddance! Good riddance! Systmed is NOT a drop in init replacement. It sucks to high heaven. I've watched presentations with Sievers mocking the idea of making sure it works with other Unices (what a parochial minded fucking luser). I could write a book on how these guys, their ilk and all their shit is suck, suck, suck.
--Kyle Neoprint
>get rid of both GNOME and KDE,
Really? You lump these two together? One is designed to be opaque to user preferences, and the other is obsequious to the user - there are so many "knobs and levers" that I can get KDE to work for me instead of against me easily.
That and Qt is the cat's balls.
inb4 "b...but Qt is C++!#@!$!#@%$!$^%"
There are bindings even for BASIC if you want. I haven't looked, but I wouldn't be surprised if you could use Brainfuck.
>XFCE
Let me know when Thunar becomes usable, if ever.
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BMO
If you think that the computing field is somehow exceptionally divisive regarding the two sexes, think again.
Sometimes I think it's worse now than it was in the 60s, when men were programmers and women slammed the keys on the keypunch.
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BMO
BMO was rather obviously trying to answer the implied question (that needs to be solved if the issues are to be addressed) "Why (are) women apparently (...) unable or unwilling to following a career in the computing fields".
Winner winner chicken dinner.
I'm as guilty of it as most, I'd guess.
As am I, but I have been making an effort to be less so, sometimes.
There is much said about how the IT and computing fields are meritocracies. Recent articles even here have put the lie to that.
--
BMO
DMARC requires that the FROM field also match the sending server
REALLY?
This is the stupidest thing I've seen in a long time.
In spam fighting circles, the FROM header is universally ignored, because it can be anything. We don't fucking care what the FROM header says. Indeed, treating the FROM header as "accurate" leads to insanity like joe-jobs.
Whoever came up with that idea should schedule a meeting with Bill Mattocks' wooden mallet.
"My sense of personal integrity is none of your concern."
-thus spake Walt "Pickle Jar" Rines
"I'm going to pound your balls flat with a wooden mallet."
-thus respondeth Bill Mattocks
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BMO
Why women apparently feel unable or unwilling to following a career in the computing fields.
Just look at the comments here in this "enlightened place."
Assholes abound.
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BMO
I played E.T.
It turned me into a cold-blooded serial killer.
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BMO
(I'm proud to have been one of the people they tried to block.)
Sometimes you can judge people by who their enemies are.
And this confirms why I have you friended.
--
BMO
Oh look a "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about"
Show me your tax return.
Tell me where you live.
Tell me the names of your children.
--
BMO
Patrick Ventrell rejected the allegations as "baseless and unfounded"
Legalese for "true."
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BMO
A few years ago I believe the courts determined that these programs where legitimate programs and listing them as spyware or malware was illegal.
No they didn't.
A lot of spammers and malware authors shout about "free speach" but the only court case where a spammer won was where Spamhaus replied to the lawsuit but didn't show up. Which was later overturned.
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BMO
If you jailbreak your car, however, and inadvertently change something that impairs reliability, you're compromising the safety of everybody else on the road.
Yeah? So? That's what insurance is for.
Secondly, you don't seem to have remembered that there are over 100 years of DIY automobile engineering (commonly called hotrodding).
Are you German or something?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
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BMO
College is about learning theory and how to apply it, it isn't a vocational program.
When you have a $100k bill to pay off that you can't escape through bankruptcy, you'd better have some way to pay it off. When you have a trillion dollar debt problem based upon this (see previous slashdot headlines) you have what they call a "real problem."
What you say is a nice sentiment. It's a sentiment that was only valid 40 years ago, when a summer job every year could pay for tuition at Northeastern.
It is also preposterous to not teach the concepts of security for devices connected to hostile environments (i.e., every network ever), and networking is not a "fad." The only people that thought that the Internet and networking in general for "the great unwashed" were fads were "futurists" like Cliff Stoll who were wildly wrong in 1995.
http://www.newsweek.com/cliffo...
Read that. A 30 year trend is not a fad.
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BMO
It's funny how nearly all, to a one, who are mad at you are "anonymous cowards"
If their opinion mattered, they'd have at least an alias to reply to.
Guys, Martian isn't a troll. He's been just saying something that nearly all of us with two brain cells to rub together have been saying about a touch interface on a DESKTOP operating system.
You want to point at the screen so much? Go retrofit a light-pen for your XP laptop.
Morons.
--
BMO
It's like taking antidepressants. The world just feels too comfortable.'"
Spoken like a person who has never used antidepressants or understands or how they work, or just buys into the nonsensical Scientologist bullshit.
Antidepressants aren't magic happy pills and they aren't some sort of metaphorical rose coloured glasses.
They take the edge off. That's it. They give you the chance to back away from the emotional precipice that you would otherwise jump from. Some are better than others (Paxil sucks for many many people, for example) but properly used, they help people restore their lives from what was a bottomless pit.
Depression is the third leading cause of death. Probably the main cause of preventable death since if you don't kill yourself yourself outright, you tend to not give a shit about "healthy living" and shave 20 years off your lifespan with heart disease and other crap.
This article and summary is crap.
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BMO
And the irony of "obamacare" is that it's an invention of the Heritage Foundation.
They're the ones that designed it.
That Obama, implementing the plans of communist sympathizers like the Heritage Foundation.
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BMO
>read article
>2/3rds goes to retirees
The baby boomers are retiring?
YOU DON'T SAY!
And you are surprised at this? If you are, you're a moron.
"Social security is going broke!!!#$#!@$@#%11ON#"
No it isn't you stupid fuck, not if the legislature tweaks it A LITTLE BIT. But no, we have teabaggers and corporatists crying about the "47 percent that don't pay taxes" lie.
Hurr.
Fuck all of you.
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BMO