Being a resident of New England, I'm tired of paying for their highways and such while they accuse us here as being Un-American.
For fucks sake. Leave already.
What I found especially amusing was the tea-tard messages claiming people would high-tail it to Canada if Obama got re-elected. Yeah, the country next door with single-payer health insurance, decent social security, more gun regulation, etc.
>I wonder what percentage of Americans would favor pleasing the gods by sacrificing a convict each month versus paying more taxes to build storm surges.
There's not much difference between dominionist christians and the taliban.
-- BMO
dominionism is a combination of prosperity gospel, fundamentalism, literalism, merchant church, violent eschatology, etc.
>That's how government spending should work, right? You should only want to pay for it after lots of people have died?
No, that's how *humans* work.
You'll never get approval for the funding until a lot of people die. Because there are a lot of short sighted people out there that will exclaim "BUT MY TAXES HURR!!!"
So you're going to move the city inland by what, 60 miles? Move everyone off Manhattan and Long Island? All 8+Million of them? What draconian government ministry are you going to appoint (because you've made yourself emperor) to forcibly move people off the land they're on? You have to pay them to resettle too, enough to replace the homes and land they're in.
Your "simple" solution is infeasible and would be hated by everyone.
People like to live next to work. They hate commuting. They'll build houses and offices near the port and then you're right back to where you started.
>As far as independent garages go, why would they need to be certified?
Because Joe's Shadetree Garage and Pizza Delivery Service need to be able to do warranty work the correct way and not defraud the manufacturer, or customer, or just simply repair the wrong thing because he's bad at it. We already have ASE certification. We do this in other industries too, like computer and other electronics repair. And in general, trades benefit from certification - plumbing, carpentry, brick laying, electrical, etc.
>right to repair
Goes out the window when the cost of the repair is covered by the manufacturer.
Outside of warranty where the owner is paying for it? Sure thing.
The manufacturer could sell the car direct to the customer. They could sell it for the same price as the dealer pays them.
The dealer is just a middle-man skimming off the top. The dealer offers service too, but independent certified garages could too. This is anti-consumer and anti-independent repair.
List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America (LOPCATGOPATA for short):
Liberals, Democrats, Socialists, Community Organizers, Geologists, Biologists, Meteorologists, Climatologists, Atheists, Muslims, Jews, Satan, ABC, NBC, CNN, CBS, PBS, All of cable news except FNC, The New York Times, The LA Times, The Washington Post, The Associated Press, Reuters, BBC, The Guardian, Black People, Mexicans, Human Rights Activists, SCOTUS, Europe, Movie Industry, Television Industry, Environmentalists, ACLU, The United Nations, Labor Unions, Colleges, Teachers (including kindergarten teachers), Professors, ACORN, National Endowment for the Arts, Gays, Judges, NPR, Paleontologists, Astrophysicists, Museums (*except Creationism Museum), WHO, WTO, Inflated tires, The Honolulu Advertiser, The Star Bulletin, Teletubbies, Sponge Bob and Patrick, Nobel Prize Committee, US Census Bureau, NOAA, Sesame Street, Comic Books, Little Green Footballs, Video Games, The Bible, CBO, Bruce Springsteen, Pennies, The Theory of Relativity, Comedy Central, Young People, whatever the hell a Justin Beiber is, Small Business Owners, Math, CPAC, Navy SEALs, The Economist, The Muppets, Iowa Republicans, Low-Flow Toilets, Breast Cancer Screenings, Chrysler, Clint Eastwood., Robert Deniro, Tom Hanks, Glenn Frey, Norman Rockwell, James Cameron, Dr. Seus, Nuns, Supreme Court Justice John Roberts, Jonathan Krohn at age 17, Fact Checkers, Australia, Mitt Romney, Rasmussen, Fox News, Lockheed Martin, Bureau of Labor Statistics, Paul Ryan, Debate moderators, Ben Stein, Soup kitchens, Chris Christie
And now we can add "The IT Department" to the list.
The Republicans are blaming everyone else but themselves. They've gone as far as to blame blacks for voting for the party that doesn't have candidates that publish books claiming that slavery was a "blessing in disguise."
Romney lost because:
1. He's slimy. He was an Etch-A-Sketch candidate. 2. Rather than court the independents that could have won the election for him, he courted the fringe. He picked that lunatic Ryan for VP. 3. He thought he was using the neocons. Wrong. The neocons used him. They were going to glom on to anyone who won the primaries and anyone paying attention saw this. 4. Because of #1, nobody could trust him, not even his fellow Republicans and certainly not Roger Ailes. Remember how Fox tried to hilight everyone except him before the primaries were done and then had to reluctantly back him after? 5. Not even the Mormons trusted him. 6. He even lost his hometown of Belmont MA, which is full of rich WASPs just like him.
People who know him didn't trust him. It showed.
Combine that with the utter vile rhetoric coming from GOP the last 4 years, is it any surprise that everyone with two brain cells to rub together disliked him far more than they did Obama?
Out of all the candidates that were backed by Roger Ailes' SuperPac, none won. Just look at the clown show that the primaries were, and the GOP picked a clown as a result.
Introspection is required. Until then, it's going to be a long cold winter of discontent for the GOP.
>So how do they reconcile if someone emails a ballot twice from two email addresses?
I would think there would be some sort of cryptographic signature embedded in the emailed ballot, so they only get that one ballot back and not a hundred copies.
... already. They are merely letting people be treated like overseas military.
FTFA
"Officials say electronic voting is also an option for emergency workers. The option is already open to New Jersey voters overseas and in the military."
It's not like someone just came up with an idea yesterday.
> Nepomuk and a whole boatload of other undesirable bloat turns me right off.
They are easy to turn off. They're not mandatory.
You can turn Nepomuk off at the System Settings. Strigi goes away when you turn off Nepomuk. You can toggle Akonadi by doing this:
edit ~/.config/akonadiserverrc
StartServer=false
Bam. Gone.
The drawbacks to the above: You don't have desktop search, because you've turned off nepomuk. You also can't use kmail or knode because akonadi is what keeps all your PIM info. But those aren't issues if you don't use desktop search and you use different applications for mail, calendar, and usenet.
>KIOslaves aren't useful to me
If you like Dolphin, kioslaves are why Dolphin is as good as it is.
I agree that running KDE in 512MB of RAM with no swap is not a good idea. But I take issue with the appelation of "bloat." Bloat is a ratio of functionality to resource abuse. You get a lot more functionality out of KDE in *less* RAM use than Gnome3 or 2 and especially Unity. Basically because things have been cleaned up since 4.3 and especially in 4.8 and 4.9.x From that perspective, KDE is a lot less bloated than its competitors.
I have actually. I even used it back when it was a clone of CDE.
>or Enlightenment
Enlightenment is one of those things that you wished worked, but I installed it the other day via a PPA because of the Enlightenment article here, and I couldn't even get the Debian applications menu to show up. Nor could I quit normally, I had to go to a terminal and kill X. It was worse than it was 10 years ago, when I had it as a window manager with the waves plugin to "impress" passers-by.
> They both put KDE to shame\
No they don't. Neither has kioslaves and neither has dolphin or konqueror. Those two reasons alone are enough to use KDE.
>Those long instructions on the command line sure look easier than installing from the Java update prompt on windows and like something mom would do./sarcasm
"What is copy and paste, Alex?"
>Stop making retarded excuses for one the biggest software companies,
I wasn't making excuses, the report said what it said. The repo also has Java 7. But hey, let's not let facts get in the way of a good rant.
Personally, I use the IcedTea java, so I really don't have a dog in this fight.
This article is nothing but Softie cheerleading without any meat. You have to go to the report itself for any real facts.
Indeed, this paragraph explains *why* Java exploits are common in the wild.
Java vulnerabilities were exploited in more than 50% of all attacks. According to Oracle, different versions of this virtual machine are installed on more than 1.1 billion computers. Importantly, updates for this software are installed on demand rather than automatically, increasing the lifetime of vulnerabilities. In addition, Java exploits are sufficiently easy to use under any Windows version and, with some additional work by cybercriminals, as in the case of Flashfake, cross-platform exploits can be created. This explains the special interest of cybercriminals in Java vulnerabilities. Naturally, most detections are triggered by various exploit packs.
In other words, if you do auto-updates of java and stuff like it, you are far less vulnerable. I don't think Windows even has a facility to do this, one must roll one's own for each package.
Keeping up to date with Oracle Java on Debian style systems:
KDE is one of the only environments left that doesn't treat its users like morons.
This can't be said enough. But not only that, there seems to be a fad in the other direction to be as user-hostile as possible in the name of extensibility. Dwm doesn't even have a config file, you are expected to edit the source and compile it, because a dwmrc would be "bloat." Another window manager requires you to learn haskell. GUI based configs like those found under WindowMaker are eschewed as "bloat." Well, damn, if I'm going to have to learn a whole new programming language just to change the background color, I may as well go back to twm and write a twmrc on clay tablets or write my window manager.
I don't get it. I don't understand the goals of the above. On one hand we have "the user is stupid, don't let him configure anything" and the other is "let the user configure anything, but make it artificially difficult."
KDE is a sane middle ground between the two paradigms.
>So then, he wasn't such a visionary after all. Right? He was only an average thinker for his day...
People aren't visionary in every subject. Einstein was a genius with physics, but he was a terrible husband. Does that make him "a piece of shit"? Your argument is that if someone is flawed that they are just "average thinkers" and "pieces of shit" no matter what else they've contributed.
What about you? Do your faults negate all the positive stuff that you contribute to the people around you?
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>or we'll hold back the maple syrup.
No skin off my nose. We have plenty of sugar maples in New England. It's a pretty big deal in NH/MA/VT/ME.
>We don't want your nutjobs
Just ship them off to Nanisivik. They can be all bootstrappy and mine lead and zinc.
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BMO
>Tennessee's a third world country without federal fucking dollars
East Tennessee is a third world country *even with* federal fucking dollars.
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Being a resident of New England, I'm tired of paying for their highways and such while they accuse us here as being Un-American.
For fucks sake. Leave already.
What I found especially amusing was the tea-tard messages claiming people would high-tail it to Canada if Obama got re-elected. Yeah, the country next door with single-payer health insurance, decent social security, more gun regulation, etc.
Go. Go to Canada.
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BMO
>I wonder what percentage of Americans would favor pleasing the gods by sacrificing a convict each month versus paying more taxes to build storm surges.
There's not much difference between dominionist christians and the taliban.
--
BMO
dominionism is a combination of prosperity gospel, fundamentalism, literalism, merchant church, violent eschatology, etc.
>That's how government spending should work, right? You should only want to pay for it after lots of people have died?
No, that's how *humans* work.
You'll never get approval for the funding until a lot of people die. Because there are a lot of short sighted people out there that will exclaim "BUT MY TAXES HURR!!!"
--
BMO
You have to be trolling. You have to.
So you're going to move the city inland by what, 60 miles? Move everyone off Manhattan and Long Island? All 8+Million of them? What draconian government ministry are you going to appoint (because you've made yourself emperor) to forcibly move people off the land they're on? You have to pay them to resettle too, enough to replace the homes and land they're in.
Your "simple" solution is infeasible and would be hated by everyone.
People like to live next to work. They hate commuting. They'll build houses and offices near the port and then you're right back to where you started.
--
BMO
So where do you move a port besides next to the ocean?
Serious question.
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BMO
>As far as independent garages go, why would they need to be certified?
Because Joe's Shadetree Garage and Pizza Delivery Service need to be able to do warranty work the correct way and not defraud the manufacturer, or customer, or just simply repair the wrong thing because he's bad at it. We already have ASE certification. We do this in other industries too, like computer and other electronics repair. And in general, trades benefit from certification - plumbing, carpentry, brick laying, electrical, etc.
>right to repair
Goes out the window when the cost of the repair is covered by the manufacturer.
Outside of warranty where the owner is paying for it? Sure thing.
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BMO
Bullshit.
The manufacturer could sell the car direct to the customer. They could sell it for the same price as the dealer pays them.
The dealer is just a middle-man skimming off the top. The dealer offers service too, but independent certified garages could too. This is anti-consumer and anti-independent repair.
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BMO
Shepard Smith is the only anchor/talking head at Fox that isn't a complete idiot.
He's not enough to take the stench off Fox.
>blaming all news services as biased.
Reality has a liberal bias. Deal with it.
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From elsewhere:
mrshowrules [TotalFark] 2012-10-30 12:44:56 PM
List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPCATGOPATA for short):
Liberals, Democrats, Socialists, Community Organizers, Geologists, Biologists, Meteorologists, Climatologists, Atheists, Muslims, Jews, Satan, ABC, NBC, CNN, CBS, PBS, All of cable news except FNC, The New York Times, The LA Times, The Washington Post, The Associated Press, Reuters, BBC, The Guardian, Black People, Mexicans, Human Rights Activists, SCOTUS, Europe, Movie Industry, Television Industry, Environmentalists, ACLU, The United Nations, Labor Unions, Colleges, Teachers (including kindergarten teachers), Professors, ACORN, National Endowment for the Arts, Gays, Judges, NPR, Paleontologists, Astrophysicists, Museums (*except Creationism Museum), WHO, WTO, Inflated tires, The Honolulu Advertiser, The Star Bulletin, Teletubbies, Sponge Bob and Patrick, Nobel Prize Committee, US Census Bureau, NOAA, Sesame Street, Comic Books, Little Green Footballs, Video Games, The Bible, CBO, Bruce Springsteen, Pennies, The Theory of Relativity, Comedy Central, Young People, whatever the hell a Justin Beiber is, Small Business Owners, Math, CPAC, Navy SEALs, The Economist, The Muppets, Iowa Republicans, Low-Flow Toilets, Breast Cancer Screenings, Chrysler, Clint Eastwood., Robert Deniro, Tom Hanks, Glenn Frey, Norman Rockwell, James Cameron, Dr. Seus, Nuns, Supreme Court Justice John Roberts, Jonathan Krohn at age 17, Fact Checkers, Australia, Mitt Romney, Rasmussen, Fox News, Lockheed Martin, Bureau of Labor Statistics, Paul Ryan, Debate moderators, Ben Stein, Soup kitchens, Chris Christie
And now we can add "The IT Department" to the list.
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BMO
The Republicans are blaming everyone else but themselves. They've gone as far as to blame blacks for voting for the party that doesn't have candidates that publish books claiming that slavery was a "blessing in disguise."
Romney lost because:
1. He's slimy. He was an Etch-A-Sketch candidate.
2. Rather than court the independents that could have won the election for him, he courted the fringe. He picked that lunatic Ryan for VP.
3. He thought he was using the neocons. Wrong. The neocons used him. They were going to glom on to anyone who won the primaries and anyone paying attention saw this.
4. Because of #1, nobody could trust him, not even his fellow Republicans and certainly not Roger Ailes. Remember how Fox tried to hilight everyone except him before the primaries were done and then had to reluctantly back him after?
5. Not even the Mormons trusted him.
6. He even lost his hometown of Belmont MA, which is full of rich WASPs just like him.
People who know him didn't trust him. It showed.
Combine that with the utter vile rhetoric coming from GOP the last 4 years, is it any surprise that everyone with two brain cells to rub together disliked him far more than they did Obama?
Out of all the candidates that were backed by Roger Ailes' SuperPac, none won. Just look at the clown show that the primaries were, and the GOP picked a clown as a result.
Introspection is required. Until then, it's going to be a long cold winter of discontent for the GOP.
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BMO
>Or just ask a bunch of random coworkers to forward it to you
No no, you're not thinking devious enough. Don't ask a random employee.
Ask the coworker you like the least. Leak that one.
Deny everything.
Taa daa.
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BMO
>what's been proposed here is not in any way secure.
The article doesn't even get into any security at all. It's just an announcement and I'll bet the reporter didn't even bother to ask.
Come on, man.
You wanna find out? How about you go call up the NJ Board of Elections.
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BMO
>So how do they reconcile if someone emails a ballot twice from two email addresses?
I would think there would be some sort of cryptographic signature embedded in the emailed ballot, so they only get that one ballot back and not a hundred copies.
--
BMO
... already. They are merely letting people be treated like overseas military.
FTFA
"Officials say electronic voting is also an option for emergency workers. The option is already open to New Jersey voters overseas and in the military."
It's not like someone just came up with an idea yesterday.
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BMO
I'm not going to change. Deal with it.
Go be unproductively mad somewhere else.
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In defense of KDE:
> Nepomuk and a whole boatload of other undesirable bloat turns me right off.
They are easy to turn off. They're not mandatory.
You can turn Nepomuk off at the System Settings. Strigi goes away when you turn off Nepomuk. You can toggle Akonadi by doing this:
edit ~/.config/akonadiserverrc
StartServer=false
Bam. Gone.
The drawbacks to the above: You don't have desktop search, because you've turned off nepomuk. You also can't use kmail or knode because akonadi is what keeps all your PIM info. But those aren't issues if you don't use desktop search and you use different applications for mail, calendar, and usenet.
>KIOslaves aren't useful to me
If you like Dolphin, kioslaves are why Dolphin is as good as it is.
I agree that running KDE in 512MB of RAM with no swap is not a good idea. But I take issue with the appelation of "bloat." Bloat is a ratio of functionality to resource abuse. You get a lot more functionality out of KDE in *less* RAM use than Gnome3 or 2 and especially Unity. Basically because things have been cleaned up since 4.3 and especially in 4.8 and 4.9.x From that perspective, KDE is a lot less bloated than its competitors.
YMMV.
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BMO
>Never used XFCE
I have actually. I even used it back when it was a clone of CDE.
>or Enlightenment
Enlightenment is one of those things that you wished worked, but I installed it the other day via a PPA because of the Enlightenment article here, and I couldn't even get the Debian applications menu to show up. Nor could I quit normally, I had to go to a terminal and kill X. It was worse than it was 10 years ago, when I had it as a window manager with the waves plugin to "impress" passers-by.
> They both put KDE to shame\
No they don't. Neither has kioslaves and neither has dolphin or konqueror. Those two reasons alone are enough to use KDE.
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>Those long instructions on the command line sure look easier than installing from the Java update prompt on windows and like something mom would do. /sarcasm
"What is copy and paste, Alex?"
>Stop making retarded excuses for one the biggest software companies,
I wasn't making excuses, the report said what it said. The repo also has Java 7. But hey, let's not let facts get in the way of a good rant.
Personally, I use the IcedTea java, so I really don't have a dog in this fight.
--
BMO
This article is nothing but Softie cheerleading without any meat. You have to go to the report itself for any real facts.
Indeed, this paragraph explains *why* Java exploits are common in the wild.
In other words, if you do auto-updates of java and stuff like it, you are far less vulnerable. I don't think Windows even has a facility to do this, one must roll one's own for each package.
Keeping up to date with Oracle Java on Debian style systems:
http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/install-oracle-java-8-in-ubuntu-via-ppa.html
--
BMO
KDE is one of the only environments left that doesn't treat its users like morons.
This can't be said enough. But not only that, there seems to be a fad in the other direction to be as user-hostile as possible in the name of extensibility. Dwm doesn't even have a config file, you are expected to edit the source and compile it, because a dwmrc would be "bloat." Another window manager requires you to learn haskell. GUI based configs like those found under WindowMaker are eschewed as "bloat." Well, damn, if I'm going to have to learn a whole new programming language just to change the background color, I may as well go back to twm and write a twmrc on clay tablets or write my window manager.
I don't get it. I don't understand the goals of the above. On one hand we have "the user is stupid, don't let him configure anything" and the other is "let the user configure anything, but make it artificially difficult."
KDE is a sane middle ground between the two paradigms.
--
BMO
>So then, he wasn't such a visionary after all. Right? He was only an average thinker for his day...
People aren't visionary in every subject. Einstein was a genius with physics, but he was a terrible husband. Does that make him "a piece of shit"? Your argument is that if someone is flawed that they are just "average thinkers" and "pieces of shit" no matter what else they've contributed.
What about you? Do your faults negate all the positive stuff that you contribute to the people around you?
I think that's bullshit.
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BMO
You do realize that this would make an awesome article for us keyboard nerds.
Especially if you videotaped it.
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BMO
>What are they going to do, arrest you and beat you with a wrench for the encryption key?
Yes
http://xkcd.com/538/
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