it's been circulating on teh internets _atleast_ since late May.Once VS start reporting back that more and more people are reverting back to regular style menus they'll make it an option inside VS itself, albeit hidden behind some rarely used obscure menu. Nothing to see here, carry on.
You mean like how they removed the registry entry to turn off Metro and have a normal desktop?
Actually he is not only arabic, his background ( for which I could be mistaken ) is shiite muslim ( but he may not be religious ). In lebanon, the largest shiite parties are anti-american like Hizbollah and Amal.
Yay! Guilt by vague association!
Pretty soon we can execute people on innuendo too!
So how can an event (creation) occur if there were no time in which it could occur? That's a realllllyyyyyy bizarre thought. There was forever of no-time and then an event happened where time was created and stuff could happen?
No, there was a time, or not-time, or however it may be described, that we can't describe in any meaningful manner because it was not part of this universe. Whatever is in the metaverse, or whatever we use to describe what is "outside" cannot be described by the rules of this universe. It is literally undefinable from "in here." It sounds circular, but you can't describe things you cannot see or measure.
It's like trying to describe what goes on at the singularity of a black hole. You can't.
But design patents and copyright do not last hundreds of years.
The Chinese developer has every right to do this. For fucks' sake, Disney's castle rips off castles from all over Europe and nobody says a peep.
The Austrians should be happy it's just a developer copying it and not the Chinese military, who have copied a section of a Kashmir (Aksai Chin) for military training purposes, specifically, tank training.
George Lucas does not deserve any more money from this franchise, since he's driven it into the ground with episodes 1-3. The downfall of the franchise started with the fucking Ewoks, because Lucas decided it was better to have gewgaws to sell rather than have a decent story.
I know I'm talking about taking the food off developers' plates when I say it, but there is a time when a franchise should die, and that was the end of the Empire Strikes Back.
And Solo *always* shoots first.
When the movie reviews are more entertaining than the movies themselves, it's pretty much proof the franchise is crap.
"Why 2 sides to discussions that have been scientifically settled?"
Because in America, the opinion of someone who has a 10'th grade education is equal to that of someone who has a PhD in geology on how old the Earth is.
>But seriously, if you know anything about research methodologies
I do. And if you pay attention, it's not just one survey, it's surveys time-and-again come up with the same numbers even though they're different polls, different orgs, and different sets of questions.
My parents for the longest time were Young Earth Creationists, because both were brought up Catholic before the Second Vatican Council. They are typical Americans and true New Englanders at heart. Dad is smart as a whip. They have also more-or-less given up on me seeing things from their side, religiously. It's their own fault really, because they taught me and my brother to think for ourselves.
They had to shut up and smile when my brother got his degree in Anthropology.
Granted that this is a sample of 1 family, but mathematically the split is 50 percent.
Getting back to whether people are YECs or OECs or "Guided Evolution" or some such nonsense, if you read the Yahoo link, the Gallup poll differentiated between YEC and people who think God plays lesser roles in the Universe. So no, it's not just lumping everyone in one group.
As for religious ideas in the science classroom, the default should always be atheist - that God does not directly influence the universe, ever, because once you start inserting God and religion, then it's not science any more. Reserve the religious discussion for comparative religion, sociology, psychology, and history classes.
And if you're going to teach the Biblical creation story, then teach all of them, including his noodly appendage, the FSM, because that's just as valid as any other myth.
>(b) unified & organized enough to pursue a common agenda
We had 4 of them running for the Republican Nomination.
The common agenda are philosophies that has been adopted by many evangelical churches. The Christian Warrior movement, etc.
>Roman Catholic Church
Santorum is Opus Dei and makes no apologies about it. It's a powerful fundamentalist cult within the RCC.
>has no beef either with evolution
You know nothing of Opus Dei and this proves it.
>The fundamentalists are largely in the Evangelical Protestant wing of Christianity,
And we have a lot of them here in the US. It's very popular. They are what got Reagan elected, and they have been taking over the Republican Party ever since. Barry Goldwater hated it. He said that the RNC will never be rid of them, and he's right.
>which is much more given to being a bunch of independent congregations,
You don't have a clue about the Southern Baptist convention and other large fundamentalist evangelical organizations.
>illusory "dominionists"
What the hell do you think The Family is?
>wouldn't be able to advance their doctrines too far,
But they already do, as seen in the farkin' URLs I've listed, and it hasn't happened just once.
>And, given the suspicion & resentment many Christian fundamentalists have to the national government
Not when they're trying to run it. We had 4 christian fundamentalists running for the Republican nomination for President. This is not the last we'll see of their type. There is one thing about religious fundamentalists you need to learn: Since they are convinced that they are so bloody "right" they will not simply give up - they will instead redouble their efforts.
You have not paid attention to politics of the last 40 years *at all*
>I get modded flamebait
Yeah, I stepped on someone's toes.
Suggested reading: the best synopsis of Dominionism, Politics, and where we're headed.
We are 5 voting percentage points from shoving religion into science classes nation-wide. The know-nothings and American Taliban (dominionists, christian reconstructionists, etc) are so bent upon bringing Gawd's Word and the law of Leviticus to the land that they have been trying, and succeeding, in getting into positions of power. It truly is frightening, and the next thing you know, Pi is going to equal 3 because that's what it says in the Bible.
The amount of people who believe in strict creationism is stunning. It is fully half of the US population, and another big chunk believe that God directly guides evolution if it exists at all. Anti-science is all the rage, because it makes people who don't actually know anything believe that their opinion is just as good as someone who holds a doctorate in physics.
And these people are your neighbors, so they determine who is on the school boards and what textbooks get bought. Have we forgotten recent history? Have we forgotten the Dover PA school district?
A bill that allows Tennessee public school teachers to teach alternatives to mainstream scientific theories such as evolution will become law this month after the governor refused to sign or veto the measure, The Washington Postâ(TM)s Valerie Strauss reports.
Without good books, good curricula, and school boards that are not going to pander to the religious nutbags (or not be religious nutbags themselves as in Dover), the science education gets short shrift, which happens too often.
Yes, it is fucking abysmal, and don't let anyone tell you differently.
>That does not mean there has not been negative health impact.
Then cite something that does show health impact or GTFO.
>Oh good, what could possibly go wrong with that?
>afraid of isotopes as tracers
Don't ever go in for a cardiac stress test. You wind up being so radioactive that police in cruisers so equipped to detect ionizing radiation will pull your butt over to see if you're hauling nuclear weapons. True.
You are arguing from an irrational point of view. Indeed, you are arguing from the point of ridiculousness. And next time, cite a paper, not someone's slide show where most of the real information is in the talk itself and not the bullet points.
Until there is a massive breakthrough in catalysts for electrolysis *and* ways of keeping them from being fouled, which is where the efficiency is won and lost, you're not going to get anything better than steam reforming for hydrogen generation.
That depends on your source of energy. If you have a windmill producing electricity irregularly, you can use hydrogen as a buffer. This is not rocket science
So? where are the windmills generating hydrogen for the hydrogen storage tanks at NASA? There aren't any, are there? That's because steam reforming is a lot cheaper and gets you lots of hydrogen quickly. Nobody uses fucking windmills to make hydrogen as a business, because they'd go broke.
The reason for the decision was the carbon dioxide emission fee introduced by Norwegian authorities in 1993, which made it more profitable to capture and store the carbon dioxide than to pay the emission fee.
Substitute "less expensive" for "profitable" and you have an accurate sentence. It is a false economy.
I would mod you down
Modding down for disagreeing is being a dickhead and a coward. There is no -1 disagree for a reason.
But he'd have to go install Ubuntu w/ Unity or GNOME3 first
No, he doesn't. Since when is Unity or Gnome3 mandatory for Ubuntu? You don't have to install *any* desktop at all. Just because someone can't be arsed to not look around for the alternate installs doesn't mean they don't exist.
And all he has to do is add the Cinnamon PPA to/etc/apt/sources.list and sudo-apt-get install the metapackage.
Slashdot Mirror
it's been circulating on teh internets _atleast_ since late May.Once VS start reporting back that more and more people are reverting back to regular style menus they'll make it an option inside VS itself, albeit hidden behind some rarely used obscure menu. Nothing to see here, carry on.
You mean like how they removed the registry entry to turn off Metro and have a normal desktop?
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So you're fine with being singled out because of people who are not you and don't hold the same values of you but you get lumped in with them anyway?
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Actually he is not only arabic, his background ( for which I could be mistaken ) is shiite muslim ( but he may not be religious ). In lebanon, the largest shiite parties are anti-american like Hizbollah and Amal.
Yay! Guilt by vague association!
Pretty soon we can execute people on innuendo too!
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So how can an event (creation) occur if there were no time in which it could occur? That's a realllllyyyyyy bizarre thought. There was forever of no-time and then an event happened where time was created and stuff could happen?
No, there was a time, or not-time, or however it may be described, that we can't describe in any meaningful manner because it was not part of this universe. Whatever is in the metaverse, or whatever we use to describe what is "outside" cannot be described by the rules of this universe. It is literally undefinable from "in here." It sounds circular, but you can't describe things you cannot see or measure.
It's like trying to describe what goes on at the singularity of a black hole. You can't.
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>backstroke of the west,
Who?
*google*
Wait, what is this, I don't even...
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"The only intuitive interface is the nipple."
And now we can have nipples as the interface.
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But design patents and copyright do not last hundreds of years.
The Chinese developer has every right to do this. For fucks' sake, Disney's castle rips off castles from all over Europe and nobody says a peep.
The Austrians should be happy it's just a developer copying it and not the Chinese military, who have copied a section of a Kashmir (Aksai Chin) for military training purposes, specifically, tank training.
http://pruned.blogspot.com/2006/07/huangyangtan-or-tactical-geoannexation.html
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I don't get it.
>lucas arts
George Lucas does not deserve any more money from this franchise, since he's driven it into the ground with episodes 1-3. The downfall of the franchise started with the fucking Ewoks, because Lucas decided it was better to have gewgaws to sell rather than have a decent story.
I know I'm talking about taking the food off developers' plates when I say it, but there is a time when a franchise should die, and that was the end of the Empire Strikes Back.
And Solo *always* shoots first.
When the movie reviews are more entertaining than the movies themselves, it's pretty much proof the franchise is crap.
To wit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBhi6qqFLA
And now, after some pretty crappy games, people still give Lucas the time of day and say "Well, this one might not be so bad."
All SW fans at this point must be out-and-out bottoms, and their Lucas is their top and there is no longer a safe-word.
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>Oddly enough, we also had science classes
I'll bet that your theology class was not your science class.
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"Why 2 sides to discussions that have been scientifically settled?"
Because in America, the opinion of someone who has a 10'th grade education is equal to that of someone who has a PhD in geology on how old the Earth is.
Because USA USA USA USA USA!
I wish I was exaggerating.
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>But seriously, if you know anything about research methodologies
I do. And if you pay attention, it's not just one survey, it's surveys time-and-again come up with the same numbers even though they're different polls, different orgs, and different sets of questions.
My parents for the longest time were Young Earth Creationists, because both were brought up Catholic before the Second Vatican Council. They are typical Americans and true New Englanders at heart. Dad is smart as a whip. They have also more-or-less given up on me seeing things from their side, religiously. It's their own fault really, because they taught me and my brother to think for ourselves.
They had to shut up and smile when my brother got his degree in Anthropology.
Granted that this is a sample of 1 family, but mathematically the split is 50 percent.
Getting back to whether people are YECs or OECs or "Guided Evolution" or some such nonsense, if you read the Yahoo link, the Gallup poll differentiated between YEC and people who think God plays lesser roles in the Universe. So no, it's not just lumping everyone in one group.
As for religious ideas in the science classroom, the default should always be atheist - that God does not directly influence the universe, ever, because once you start inserting God and religion, then it's not science any more. Reserve the religious discussion for comparative religion, sociology, psychology, and history classes.
And if you're going to teach the Biblical creation story, then teach all of them, including his noodly appendage, the FSM, because that's just as valid as any other myth.
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>(b) unified & organized enough to pursue a common agenda
We had 4 of them running for the Republican Nomination.
The common agenda are philosophies that has been adopted by many evangelical churches. The Christian Warrior movement, etc.
>Roman Catholic Church
Santorum is Opus Dei and makes no apologies about it. It's a powerful fundamentalist cult within the RCC.
>has no beef either with evolution
You know nothing of Opus Dei and this proves it.
>The fundamentalists are largely in the Evangelical Protestant wing of Christianity,
And we have a lot of them here in the US. It's very popular. They are what got Reagan elected, and they have been taking over the Republican Party ever since. Barry Goldwater hated it. He said that the RNC will never be rid of them, and he's right.
>which is much more given to being a bunch of independent congregations,
You don't have a clue about the Southern Baptist convention and other large fundamentalist evangelical organizations.
>illusory "dominionists"
What the hell do you think The Family is?
>wouldn't be able to advance their doctrines too far,
But they already do, as seen in the farkin' URLs I've listed, and it hasn't happened just once.
>And, given the suspicion & resentment many Christian fundamentalists have to the national government
Not when they're trying to run it. We had 4 christian fundamentalists running for the Republican nomination for President. This is not the last we'll see of their type. There is one thing about religious fundamentalists you need to learn: Since they are convinced that they are so bloody "right" they will not simply give up - they will instead redouble their efforts.
You have not paid attention to politics of the last 40 years *at all*
>I get modded flamebait
Yeah, I stepped on someone's toes.
Suggested reading: the best synopsis of Dominionism, Politics, and where we're headed.
http://www.discernment-ministries.org/ChristianImperialism.htm
Read that and think about what various candidates like Palin, Bachmann, Perry, etc, said in their campaigning.
What's happening to the Republican Party makes me pine for the old days of Tricky Dick. It's that screwed up.
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Oh I don't know, at this point I'll say yes.
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(FWIW, I'm writing this in France, and I don't get the impression that science teaching here is great either.)
For science education in France to improve, you'd have to let the Germans invade (again).
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>Some packages are compiled with bloat settings
And this is why you can turn off "install recommends"
It's literally one mouse click in Synaptic.
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>the source he cited backs up his claim
No, bullet points without context is not argument.
Look who's the idiot now.
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We are 5 voting percentage points from shoving religion into science classes nation-wide. The know-nothings and American Taliban (dominionists, christian reconstructionists, etc) are so bent upon bringing Gawd's Word and the law of Leviticus to the land that they have been trying, and succeeding, in getting into positions of power. It truly is frightening, and the next thing you know, Pi is going to equal 3 because that's what it says in the Bible.
The amount of people who believe in strict creationism is stunning. It is fully half of the US population, and another big chunk believe that God directly guides evolution if it exists at all. Anti-science is all the rage, because it makes people who don't actually know anything believe that their opinion is just as good as someone who holds a doctorate in physics.
http://news.yahoo.com/nearly-half-americans-believe-creationism-212000630.html
And these people are your neighbors, so they determine who is on the school boards and what textbooks get bought. Have we forgotten recent history? Have we forgotten the Dover PA school district?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District
Have we forgotten this too?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/law-allows-creationism-to-be-taught-in-tenn-public-schools/2012/04/11/gIQAAjqxAT_story.html
Without good books, good curricula, and school boards that are not going to pander to the religious nutbags (or not be religious nutbags themselves as in Dover), the science education gets short shrift, which happens too often.
Yes, it is fucking abysmal, and don't let anyone tell you differently.
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>That does not mean there has not been negative health impact.
Then cite something that does show health impact or GTFO.
>Oh good, what could possibly go wrong with that?
>afraid of isotopes as tracers
Don't ever go in for a cardiac stress test. You wind up being so radioactive that police in cruisers so equipped to detect ionizing radiation will pull your butt over to see if you're hauling nuclear weapons. True.
You are arguing from an irrational point of view. Indeed, you are arguing from the point of ridiculousness. And next time, cite a paper, not someone's slide show where most of the real information is in the talk itself and not the bullet points.
>snicker snort
Same to you, buddy.
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Until there is a massive breakthrough in catalysts for electrolysis *and* ways of keeping them from being fouled, which is where the efficiency is won and lost, you're not going to get anything better than steam reforming for hydrogen generation.
Sorry. That's life.
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But that slideshow says, right after that, that in the 35 years of sequestration, there have been no fatalities nor injuries.
And it goes on to point out the modes of failure which are easily handled - component failure like pumps and welds.
And then it goes on to how you can monitor, by introducing tracers like isotopes.
I think you were betting I wouldn't look at the PDF. I did.
So... whatever, man. I had doubts about the safety myself, but now I don't.
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Until you can find a way to make electrolysis cheaper and more practical than steam reforming, you're going to get "won't be."
Have a nice day.
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That depends on your source of energy. If you have a windmill producing electricity irregularly, you can use hydrogen as a buffer. This is not rocket science
So? where are the windmills generating hydrogen for the hydrogen storage tanks at NASA? There aren't any, are there? That's because steam reforming is a lot cheaper and gets you lots of hydrogen quickly. Nobody uses fucking windmills to make hydrogen as a business, because they'd go broke.
The reason for the decision was the carbon dioxide emission fee introduced by Norwegian authorities in 1993, which made it more profitable to capture and store the carbon dioxide than to pay the emission fee.
Substitute "less expensive" for "profitable" and you have an accurate sentence. It is a false economy.
I would mod you down
Modding down for disagreeing is being a dickhead and a coward. There is no -1 disagree for a reason.
Moron. Meet your new status.
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So far this has had occasionally hilarious results..
I said it's possible. The science is sound. The technology is expensive to develop, however.
You didn't read further where I said nobody does it because of cost.
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But he'd have to go install Ubuntu w/ Unity or GNOME3 first
No, he doesn't. Since when is Unity or Gnome3 mandatory for Ubuntu? You don't have to install *any* desktop at all. Just because someone can't be arsed to not look around for the alternate installs doesn't mean they don't exist.
And all he has to do is add the Cinnamon PPA to /etc/apt/sources.list and sudo-apt-get install the metapackage.
Bam. Cinnamon.
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Apparently you haven't read about the difference between subtractive and additive printing
We've called "subtractive printing" machining for over a century and a half.
Hope this helps.
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