you're attempting to invent an action called 'password protecting'
Was the network password protected? Yes.
By who? Terry Childs.
Did he have permission for that? Not after he was fired.
Which part am I inventing?
Once again, we're back to "the answer to your question is, Yes: people here assert that what he *did* do was to password protect the network without permission."
you must not be from San Francisco... I'd never want to work for The City, reporting up to the tenth-generation heirs to The Machine, deciphering the laws created by decades of Board Of Supervisors kookery and ballot-measure insanity, beholden to bureaucratic rules intended to affect technological reality.
(HTTP is a OSI Layer 6, "Presentation", protocol, according to a certain San Francisco charter. Even a genius reasonable network engineer like Terry Childs' and Sir Tim Berners-Lee's lovespawn would run into problems implementing that.)
damage was done when the prosecutor decided to publish a list of working passwords
Only if they haven't been changed since the discovery procedure. Or even before. Discovery only should have revealed what the passwords were, at the time of the actual events being prosecuted.
As soon as the city got control, the passwords Terry set should have been changed.
There's no conceivable reason why the prosecutor would have known what the actual, current passwords were. What got published shouldn't have been current. If they were, that's negligence on the part of whoever took over after Terry. And I argue that such negligence would be more criminal that anything Terry did.
I argue that "snobbery" is only true when the favored condition actually has some merit of some kind.
The condition described here is more like the kind of cognitive dissonance described in (I think it was) Escher, Goedel, Bach, where the robot insists that one recording of a symphony is more pleasing than another, because of the aesthetic qualitites of the patterns of the grooves in the vinyl discs.
So is the robot a snob, or, deaf to the actual auditory content and unfit to judge by normal human standards?
There are all kinds of people who have nothing to be snobby about, yet act supercilious all the same.
You are saying it's the web developers' fault, and not Oracle's, when this poorly conceived change breaks the web and compatibility for IE users?
First: I wasn't talking about the web, web developers, or IE users at all.
Second: I didn't even say whose fault it actually was. What I did was ask some questions which showed that "One way or the other, this is *not* a benign, forgivable occurrence".
The point being that, one way or the other, either the app developers or the JVM developers failed to handle a predictably unpredictable case. Take your pick, based on the answers to the questions I posed.
Thanks for the list of individuals' blog posts which happen to be tagged "environment". Many of which make no mention of energy of any kind, alternative or otherwise.
I was actually trolling for the PETA organization's platform statement of policy agenda regarding alternative energy, as the OP claimed. Can you google *that* for me?
A pet hypothesis of mine is that perhaps as an object with mass approaches C, conventional laws of physics break down and we need a whole new set of physics to figure out what happens at those velocities
Why make it your own pet hypothesis? Why not investigate whether our actual experience with observing masses' velocities near C has yielded anything of the sort already? There's plenty of evidence which will give you an idea of whether or not we think we understand what happens at those velocities.
Personally, I argue that we wouldn't even have relativistic theory itself today without such observations. And that, just as relativity refined classical ideas, a few generations' observations and experimentation might have been just the thing for obtaining any potential refinements of relativistic ideas.
If you had a pet hypothesis, it wouldn't just be the idea that a whole new set of physics would be needed, it would be an actual description of that new set of physics.
Start with something like 30 cents per round for (let's say) 5.56x45mm NATO ammo for all the M16's, inflate by 3 times for Government purchasing contract inefficiency, inflate again by 3 more times for Government purchasing contracts which include spec requirements beyond what we see in civilian supplies, pretty soon we're talking about something like $10,000 just in ammo cost alone for each badguy casualty.
Then consider.50 cal sniper ammo, which already starts at $3-$5/round for civvies...
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'The network being password protected' is not the crime, you loon.
I didn't say it was a crime, you namecaller.
I only answered your question, "Are you asserting that he didn't have permission to password protect the network?"
you're attempting to invent an action called 'password protecting'
Was the network password protected? Yes.
By who? Terry Childs.
Did he have permission for that? Not after he was fired.
Which part am I inventing?
Once again, we're back to "the answer to your question is, Yes: people here assert that what he *did* do was to password protect the network without permission."
The entire case is that he didn't *give anyone* the passwords.
The only reason there is a case here at all is that nobody but Childs knew all the passwords.
He didn't have to log in to anything to keep everyone else out.
After he was fired, he *did* continue password protecting that network. He remained the (only) person who was.
And since his job was over, his permission to password protect that network was over.
So, the answer to your question is, Yes: people here assert that what he *did* do was to password protected the network without permission.
Default should be the loopback
Default config IS the loopback. You have to deliberately change it.
Default behavior is another thing.
What you posted does not say the default is localhost.
That describes the default behavior. The GP showed us the default config, which does indeed specify localhost.
you must not be from San Francisco... I'd never want to work for The City, reporting up to the tenth-generation heirs to The Machine, deciphering the laws created by decades of Board Of Supervisors kookery and ballot-measure insanity, beholden to bureaucratic rules intended to affect technological reality.
(HTTP is a OSI Layer 6, "Presentation", protocol, according to a certain San Francisco charter. Even a genius reasonable network engineer like Terry Childs' and Sir Tim Berners-Lee's lovespawn would run into problems implementing that.)
"Ain't no twelve pickpockets gonna judge THIS guy!"
Are you asserting that he didn't have permission to password protect the network?
Not after he was fired. Sheesh.
Sysadmins can't lock everyone else out of a system they don't own.
Exactly what do you think a network administrator does?
To lock people out of a system he DOES own.Sheesh.
This is San Francisco. Even the jobless bumpkins have expertise in networking.
Well, web design, anyway.
damage was done when the prosecutor decided to publish a list of working passwords
Only if they haven't been changed since the discovery procedure. Or even before. Discovery only should have revealed what the passwords were, at the time of the actual events being prosecuted.
As soon as the city got control, the passwords Terry set should have been changed.
There's no conceivable reason why the prosecutor would have known what the actual, current passwords were. What got published shouldn't have been current. If they were, that's negligence on the part of whoever took over after Terry. And I argue that such negligence would be more criminal that anything Terry did.
I argue that "snobbery" is only true when the favored condition actually has some merit of some kind.
The condition described here is more like the kind of cognitive dissonance described in (I think it was) Escher, Goedel, Bach, where the robot insists that one recording of a symphony is more pleasing than another, because of the aesthetic qualitites of the patterns of the grooves in the vinyl discs.
So is the robot a snob, or, deaf to the actual auditory content and unfit to judge by normal human standards?
There are all kinds of people who have nothing to be snobby about, yet act supercilious all the same.
It's big enough that orbital motion won't matter. Earth could get there a day late and still get hit.
That's how many hotels do it.
And, once they charge your card, there's no outstanding debt.
At that point, can you legally make somebody take your tender then? And credit it back to your charge card?
You are saying it's the web developers' fault, and not Oracle's, when this poorly conceived change breaks the web and compatibility for IE users?
First: I wasn't talking about the web, web developers, or IE users at all.
Second: I didn't even say whose fault it actually was. What I did was ask some questions which showed that "One way or the other, this is *not* a benign, forgivable occurrence".
The point being that, one way or the other, either the app developers or the JVM developers failed to handle a predictably unpredictable case. Take your pick, based on the answers to the questions I posed.
Thanks for the list of individuals' blog posts which happen to be tagged "environment". Many of which make no mention of energy of any kind, alternative or otherwise.
I was actually trolling for the PETA organization's platform statement of policy agenda regarding alternative energy, as the OP claimed. Can you google *that* for me?
Come off it. PETA's platform doesn't include energy policy. If they bitch about fly eyes, that won't make them hypocrites.
Yeah but #33063012
Is "company name" *really* part of any intended-to-be-reliable way to identify the VM?
Is "company name" *really* necessary for identifying the VM?
If either answer is "yes", then, I agree, and I add, shame on the VM designers. Shame.
Otherwise, shame on any team who developed apps depending on that.
One way or the other, this is *not* a benign, forgivable occurrence.
A pet hypothesis of mine is that perhaps as an object with mass approaches C, conventional laws of physics break down and we need a whole new set of physics to figure out what happens at those velocities
Why make it your own pet hypothesis? Why not investigate whether our actual experience with observing masses' velocities near C has yielded anything of the sort already? There's plenty of evidence which will give you an idea of whether or not we think we understand what happens at those velocities.
Personally, I argue that we wouldn't even have relativistic theory itself today without such observations. And that, just as relativity refined classical ideas, a few generations' observations and experimentation might have been just the thing for obtaining any potential refinements of relativistic ideas.
If you had a pet hypothesis, it wouldn't just be the idea that a whole new set of physics would be needed, it would be an actual description of that new set of physics.
Consequences will never be the same!
Start with something like 30 cents per round for (let's say) 5.56x45mm NATO ammo for all the M16's, inflate by 3 times for Government purchasing contract inefficiency, inflate again by 3 more times for Government purchasing contracts which include spec requirements beyond what we see in civilian supplies, pretty soon we're talking about something like $10,000 just in ammo cost alone for each badguy casualty.
Then consider .50 cal sniper ammo, which already starts at $3-$5/round for civvies...
now you got me thinking how the Taliban would react to being hit with that...
Sorry, Malik, I'm all out of my hot man chowder... fucking Americans drained me, heh heh... Maybe Achmed over there has some for ya
oh, you're talking about the word, "police".
I think we were talking about the "word police".