If that is the way things will be handled then filtering companies will be sued out of existence and we won't have to worry about any of this anymore. They are going to get things wrong sometimes.
If nobody used these filters then the company would not be the issue. The company itself does not block anything. It is the sites and administration that implement this that do. They are trusting some 3rd party company to classify things properly which will never be 100%.
What would happen if the company that were creating the list of blocked sites were in a country that did not have the same idea of rights that we do and we had no way to contact or rectify the situation? Who would you complain to? Of course the people who installed the blocking software.
Do you blame the manufacturer of the bullet or the person who pulled the trigger? It is the school that implemented their software and everyone should know by now that it is impossible to not have false negatives when using censorware to block sites. The school either has the right to censor stuff or they don't. That is all that needs to be decided.
They wont use fosil fuels but maybe hundreds of millions of years from now the future life that grows there will be able to use our decomposed selves to fuel their vehicles. They they will have global warming and we can be the cause of thier downfall too:).
With some companies switching to Linux and others already using it there is a big incentive to use OpenOffice throughout their business if they are using it on Linux systems already. Not only is it free but you can be certain that things will display, edit, and be more assured that training is consistent across all desktops. There are documents I open daily in openoffice that do not display properly(usually half of them). I end up having to boot up vmware to get Office to view them. If Office were avilable for Linux I would probably end up using it because the company I work for would end up buying it. For internal office documents it doesn't really matter that outsiders would need to download OpenOffice to view them.
If Office were available for Linux most shops would just buy that rather than convert people over because transitioning usually is done in spurts anyway so the cost would not be that big. Escpecially if their licenses could transition from one OS to another.
So by not having Office cross platform they are openning themselves up for conversions to OpenOffice and other office type software. In that respect I am very glad Microsoft has not clued in to this yet and they are keeping Office away from Linux.
The problem is now inventors will have to patent EVERY idea they think about because they can not use prior art to prove that they had already invented it in their shop. With how many obvious patents get approved now(and that is not getting fixed) can you imagine how many there will be when 2 - 10 times the amount of patents go through the patent office because of the rush to patent first?
This is just another mis-step in the patent system. The way to fix it is to reduce what can be patented. We need less patents not more of them.
Back in the day I ordered a 200Mhz Pentium computer and found out later that the driver install disks had a parity boot virus on the driver install disks.
What was really interesting is that my system mostly worked without much of a problem. We ended up infecting my friends computer and his immediately stopped working when it was infected.
The reason was that my computer used EDO memory(no parity) and his used regular memory that used parity at the time. The virus mainly affected the parity processing of memory. So the virus caused immediate problems to his system while mine just keep going because the parity bits were not used.
That was a very interesting phone call to the computer shop that day:).
My 486 DX/2 based NEC Versa laptop from ~1993 had a trackball built in. It was a rather small trackball though so it was nowhere near as nice as an external USB trackball. It seemed to work pretty well though it did get dirty at times.
My legitimate mail from my personal domain gets rejected from quite a few servers because of the same problem. Some RBL list decided that dial up cable modems should not be allowed to send email and enough mail admins use that to block emails. My server has never passed spam(I check all the logs daily because I get very little mail on my personal domain).
The problem is not the RBL list... the problem is the ignorant admins that use the the RBLs as a spam/notspam check directly.
There is one MAJOR flaw in everyone using a system like that. If two users require a challenge/response and they try sending email to each other, they will both not be able to get that first email from one another because of the challenge that is sent by both users which is required on both ends would be blocked. ASK has this problem. Which means you have to keep an eye on your ASK queue anyway which means you will be seeing parts of the spam regardless.
Everyone would need to allow a challenge which spammers will copy to make it look like they are sending a challenge(with spam attached of course).
It would not be a problem for now, but eventually spammers would catch on.
For those reasons challenge/response is a time limited solution.
There are things that anaconda might do that just upgrading RPMS would not. I used yum to upgrade from RH9 to FC2 and it did work, but there were very strange beehaviors from some things afterwards. The fact that Fedora does not test using yum to upgrade a system from FC2 to FC3 should be reason enough to stay away from unless you have a ton of spare time to track down the strange little inconsistencies that crop up and the system being upgraded is not critical.
I have used 2 LCD monitors with VGA inputs for the past 3 years and I have never seen lag like that. Something is wrong with his OS/Drivers or maybe some trojan has infected his system(maybe a hidden vnc server is lagging his system:).
The problem is that it will not work if you use ant-spam software like milter-sender which connects to remote mail servers to make sure the email addresses are valid. In that situation you still have to be able to connect directly to the remote mail servers and not get denied because of MAPS DUN.
I do not get quite a few email from some ISPs because they deny my connection to check the sender's address(because my roadrunner IP is listed in DUNS). of this issue but would never disable milter-sender because it helps so much.
I am in the same boat as this guy. I just cant get mail from ISPs that use MAPS DUN. Not much I can do about it without disable the antispam measures I have.
Because the gateway would not be able to scan the messages for viri... only the end users could see what the content was.
Imagine what it would be like if everyone right now had encrypted email by default so hitting send automatically fetched a users public key to encrypt the data.
Viruses would start using the same methods to encrypt email going to all those users. There would be more viruses getting through to users than there are now since gateways would not be able to scan the email.
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If that is the way things will be handled then filtering companies will be sued out of existence and we won't have to worry about any of this anymore. They are going to get things wrong sometimes.
If nobody used these filters then the company would not be the issue. The company itself does not block anything. It is the sites and administration that implement this that do. They are trusting some 3rd party company to classify things properly which will never be 100%. What would happen if the company that were creating the list of blocked sites were in a country that did not have the same idea of rights that we do and we had no way to contact or rectify the situation? Who would you complain to? Of course the people who installed the blocking software.
Do you blame the manufacturer of the bullet or the person who pulled the trigger? It is the school that implemented their software and everyone should know by now that it is impossible to not have false negatives when using censorware to block sites. The school either has the right to censor stuff or they don't. That is all that needs to be decided.
They wont use fosil fuels but maybe hundreds of millions of years from now the future life that grows there will be able to use our decomposed selves to fuel their vehicles. They they will have global warming and we can be the cause of thier downfall too :).
With some companies switching to Linux and others already using it there is a big incentive to use OpenOffice throughout their business if they are using it on Linux systems already. Not only is it free but you can be certain that things will display, edit, and be more assured that training is consistent across all desktops. There are documents I open daily in openoffice that do not display properly(usually half of them). I end up having to boot up vmware to get Office to view them. If Office were avilable for Linux I would probably end up using it because the company I work for would end up buying it. For internal office documents it doesn't really matter that outsiders would need to download OpenOffice to view them.
If Office were available for Linux most shops would just buy that rather than convert people over because transitioning usually is done in spurts anyway so the cost would not be that big. Escpecially if their licenses could transition from one OS to another.
So by not having Office cross platform they are openning themselves up for conversions to OpenOffice and other office type software. In that respect I am very glad Microsoft has not clued in to this yet and they are keeping Office away from Linux.
How would this work at any acceptable speed if it had to slow down for the slowest client(dialup).
The problem is now inventors will have to patent EVERY idea they think about because they can not use prior art to prove that they had already invented it in their shop. With how many obvious patents get approved now(and that is not getting fixed) can you imagine how many there will be when 2 - 10 times the amount of patents go through the patent office because of the rush to patent first? This is just another mis-step in the patent system. The way to fix it is to reduce what can be patented. We need less patents not more of them.
Mod parent up. I agree 100%. Why didn't you register an account so people can actually see your comment?
if I leave one of my legal ripped copies of music on my car at work, I can be sued because someone could take advantage of it?
Back in the day I ordered a 200Mhz Pentium computer and found out later that the driver install disks had a parity boot virus on the driver install disks. What was really interesting is that my system mostly worked without much of a problem. We ended up infecting my friends computer and his immediately stopped working when it was infected. The reason was that my computer used EDO memory(no parity) and his used regular memory that used parity at the time. The virus mainly affected the parity processing of memory. So the virus caused immediate problems to his system while mine just keep going because the parity bits were not used. That was a very interesting phone call to the computer shop that day :).
Mod parent up. These settings work in GAIM as of 10:28pm EDT.
My 486 DX/2 based NEC Versa laptop from ~1993 had a trackball built in. It was a rather small trackball though so it was nowhere near as nice as an external USB trackball. It seemed to work pretty well though it did get dirty at times.
My legitimate mail from my personal domain gets rejected from quite a few servers because of the same problem. Some RBL list decided that dial up cable modems should not be allowed to send email and enough mail admins use that to block emails. My server has never passed spam(I check all the logs daily because I get very little mail on my personal domain).
The problem is not the RBL list... the problem is the ignorant admins that use the the RBLs as a spam/notspam check directly.
There is one MAJOR flaw in everyone using a system like that. If two users require a challenge/response and they try sending email to each other, they will both not be able to get that first email from one another because of the challenge that is sent by both users which is required on both ends would be blocked. ASK has this problem. Which means you have to keep an eye on your ASK queue anyway which means you will be seeing parts of the spam regardless. Everyone would need to allow a challenge which spammers will copy to make it look like they are sending a challenge(with spam attached of course). It would not be a problem for now, but eventually spammers would catch on. For those reasons challenge/response is a time limited solution.
There are things that anaconda might do that just upgrading RPMS would not. I used yum to upgrade from RH9 to FC2 and it did work, but there were very strange beehaviors from some things afterwards. The fact that Fedora does not test using yum to upgrade a system from FC2 to FC3 should be reason enough to stay away from unless you have a ton of spare time to track down the strange little inconsistencies that crop up and the system being upgraded is not critical.
I have used 2 LCD monitors with VGA inputs for the past 3 years and I have never seen lag like that. Something is wrong with his OS/Drivers or maybe some trojan has infected his system(maybe a hidden vnc server is lagging his system :).
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All soldering irons should be banned too because they could be used as an alternative to this service! Something must be done!
The problem is that it will not work if you use ant-spam software like milter-sender which connects to remote mail servers to make sure the email addresses are valid. In that situation you still have to be able to connect directly to the remote mail servers and not get denied because of MAPS DUN. I do not get quite a few email from some ISPs because they deny my connection to check the sender's address(because my roadrunner IP is listed in DUNS). of this issue but would never disable milter-sender because it helps so much. I am in the same boat as this guy. I just cant get mail from ISPs that use MAPS DUN. Not much I can do about it without disable the antispam measures I have.
Because the gateway would not be able to scan the messages for viri... only the end users could see what the content was.
Imagine what it would be like if everyone right now had encrypted email by default so hitting send automatically fetched a users public key to encrypt the data.
Viruses would start using the same methods to encrypt email going to all those users. There would be more viruses getting through to users than there are now since gateways would not be able to scan the email.