Just look at how AOL ended up using IE as their browser even though they owned Netscape.
Through a business deal.
KDE's got Noatun
Noatun is a POS. Sorry. It never worked properly for me, barely recognising ID3 tags let alone anything else. If that's a competitor to WMP (and Amarok actually is) then give me WMP any day.
Noatun also gives you sftp access to files so you can share with yourself and it plays videos, so you can put your home movies in a random list to give you some distraction every so often. Nothing makes me smile like watching my little girl run around in the surf.
Never mind that WMP can play and shuffle movies and read over a network share...that's GOT to be exclusive to Noatun! Or that Winamp can too! Or that Media Player Classic can as well!
Amarok, which rivals any music player for function, goes to single icon on your application bar. You right click it to pause or skip songs and left click it to get the full interface.
Like iTunes does. And WMP gives a little control bar in your taskbar (I think there's a KDE panel applet that does the same for XMMS/Amarok as well, the name escapes me). Winamp does too. Rhythmbox, Foobar2000, MediaMonkey...shall I stop yet? All of them do that.
I wouldn't be any better off migrating. My PC is fast, stable, supports all my hardware and software and basically runs the way I want it to. The reasons you gave for moving to Amarok/Noatun are pretty poor as it stands.
You do realise that record contracts are voluntary, don't you? That artists willingly go into them? If so, it's the artist's fault for accepting shitty terms.
I find it quite funny that Muse released a single which sounds extremely (uncannily even) similar to Britney Spears...which a lot of Muse fans are either disowning or trying to wave away. Interesting.
I can't, because I have no information about major label contracts. That leads me neatly on to no, I don't work for the RIAA. For a start, I'm a Brit, and I find it hilarious that not liking P2P file-sharing and saying as such on Slashdot must mean I'm a paid shill.
I prefer the physical CD because I like having something in my hands when I buy something, rather than just a few bits on a hard drive. And the answer to the second question is yes, yes I would.
That all sounds so easy.... for you. No, I don't believe you over what I read in Wikipedia and what people who own the device have told me.
Thing is, I do own an iPod. And I've restored from it lots of times, including my (very small) collection of iTMS purchased songs. It takes a couple of seconds to start it working. You're full of shit.
People I know have failed to push the right button at the right time and had to go through a "restore" process he described as a pain in the ass.
First off, I want specifics. Exactly how do you fuck up an iPod so much you have to reinstall its firmware? That takes some doing, not just pushing the wrong button? Even so, reinstalling the firmware is hardly a painful task, it takes about 2 minutes at most.
Having to format the hard drive or lose battery life.
Also called "defragging it". It's what happens on file systems. Deal with it.
One of many copy and restore programs, because iTunes apparently does not do what users want.
Also called "the ephPod thing I was talking about before". Jesus christ.
A failed restore
Ever heard "the plural of anecdote is not data?" Cos it applies here.
Apple's trouble shooting recommendations.
You're pissed off that Apple offers support for a product it makes? Jesus twitter, you're insane.
No. The discussion I started here is about how people like you reject the iTunes music store.
You also managed to, in a reply to the discussion you started, talk a load of bullshit about "artificial restrictions", in which you managed to show off quite clearly that you are a moron and that you have no idea what you're talking about.
You know what, I'll give you my opinion. I have maybe 20, 30 songs from iTMS, and I'm not altogether fond of it, for the simple reason that, impulse purchases aside, I prefer having the physical CD. I'll still buy from iTMS if there's a single or anything that I want off there, that's about it. My iPod DOES do exactly what I want, and more to the point doesn't break while I'm doing it (like my Archos GMini did a while back), and I'm happy with it, but I haven't had enough experience with other Apple products to make a decent judgement.
So, how do you transfer to an OpenZaurus then? Please enlighten me, twitter. If it requires any special software, you automatically fail.
You can transfer from iPod to computer using EphPod and GTKPod. You can plug your iPod into your PC without "self destructing", you either don't have iTunes installed so it won't do anything or you click the "Don't Replace" button when iTunes pops up. So long as you didn't buy your music from iTMS, you can move it around as much as you like.
Twitter, you've never used iTunes, you've never used an iPod and you are babbling on about something you only superficially know about from Wikipedia. To put it succintly: SHUT THE FUCK UP. Let people who actually know what they are talking about participate in this discussion, you go and sit in the corner and talk to yourself.
Shit, I hit Submit instead of Preview. Damn. Continuing anyway;
The quote about all the DRMed stores failing, and the others about Linux and other free software having surpassed non-free some time ago and the "everyone knows that..." strongly hints that you are on a completely different plane of reality from the rest of the world. I'm sure even RMS, generally accepted as being just a teensy bit OTT, wouldn't go as far as you do; you hop directly into the delusional category.
Please, stop posting this bullshit. You don't help your cause one iota.
Number two is obviously wrong, only DRM'd music stores are a failure and all of them have failed.
I stopped reading here.
Twitter, please read this carefully.
You get hounded by people for the simple and quite obvious reason that you talk bullshit, you spew FUD and you act like a 15 year old Linux fanboy. As soon as you stop doing those things people will stop harrassing you.
The second one, perhaps, but the first one...so long as you only give out 4 copies you're alright as FairPlay goes. Unless your "friends" happen to lurk the other side of LimeWire.
"You can only play your music on up to 5 computers at once. You can burn it to CD if you like though, just not in the same track order for more than a few times."
Yeah, sounds like they're really fucking people over.
Given the outright failure of other music services, it is clear that users prefer DRM-free music, and are willing to pay for it and take the trouble to rip it.
The article submitter's previous FUD-spewing and bullshit aside, this is a very stupid assertion, and very dishonest. He links to an example of ONE very small localised music service failing, assumedly due to DRM. However, he conveniently ignores iTunes, Yahoo Music, Napster, MSN Music, HMV Digital and many many others which are still going strong.
This is not to say I personally like buying from DRMed places (I don't, CDs for me ta, even if they get ripped into the same format) but just that the submitter was being a twit.
I like Radiohead, Pink Floyd and The Smiths. If your idea was implemented, that would mean I would spend an inordinate amount of time looking at Thom Yorke, Roger Waters and Morrissey.
I agree with you wholeheartedly, but twitter doesn't appear to be that sort I'm afraid...I just love his "freedom unless I don't like you" stuff, makes me laugh.;
Slashdot Mirror
Just look at how AOL ended up using IE as their browser even though they owned Netscape.
Through a business deal.
KDE's got Noatun
Noatun is a POS. Sorry. It never worked properly for me, barely recognising ID3 tags let alone anything else. If that's a competitor to WMP (and Amarok actually is) then give me WMP any day.
Noatun also gives you sftp access to files so you can share with yourself and it plays videos, so you can put your home movies in a random list to give you some distraction every so often. Nothing makes me smile like watching my little girl run around in the surf.
Never mind that WMP can play and shuffle movies and read over a network share...that's GOT to be exclusive to Noatun! Or that Winamp can too! Or that Media Player Classic can as well!
Amarok, which rivals any music player for function, goes to single icon on your application bar. You right click it to pause or skip songs and left click it to get the full interface.
Like iTunes does. And WMP gives a little control bar in your taskbar (I think there's a KDE panel applet that does the same for XMMS/Amarok as well, the name escapes me). Winamp does too. Rhythmbox, Foobar2000, MediaMonkey...shall I stop yet? All of them do that.
I wouldn't be any better off migrating. My PC is fast, stable, supports all my hardware and software and basically runs the way I want it to. The reasons you gave for moving to Amarok/Noatun are pretty poor as it stands.
(note: I don't use WMP, I use iTunes.)
Fair point. :)
Neo-liberal would probably be republican too, considering it's based on a lack of state intervention in the market.
That's no reason to stoop to their level.
You do realise that record contracts are voluntary, don't you? That artists willingly go into them? If so, it's the artist's fault for accepting shitty terms.
I tell you, carrying around those little L symbols does get to be a pain in the arse after a while. Can only fit so many in your wallet...
I find it quite funny that Muse released a single which sounds extremely (uncannily even) similar to Britney Spears...which a lot of Muse fans are either disowning or trying to wave away. Interesting.
I can't, because I have no information about major label contracts. That leads me neatly on to no, I don't work for the RIAA. For a start, I'm a Brit, and I find it hilarious that not liking P2P file-sharing and saying as such on Slashdot must mean I'm a paid shill.
I prefer the physical CD because I like having something in my hands when I buy something, rather than just a few bits on a hard drive. And the answer to the second question is yes, yes I would.
That all sounds so easy.... for you. No, I don't believe you over what I read in Wikipedia and what people who own the device have told me.
Thing is, I do own an iPod. And I've restored from it lots of times, including my (very small) collection of iTMS purchased songs. It takes a couple of seconds to start it working. You're full of shit.
People I know have failed to push the right button at the right time and had to go through a "restore" process he described as a pain in the ass.
First off, I want specifics. Exactly how do you fuck up an iPod so much you have to reinstall its firmware? That takes some doing, not just pushing the wrong button? Even so, reinstalling the firmware is hardly a painful task, it takes about 2 minutes at most.
Having to format the hard drive or lose battery life.
Also called "defragging it". It's what happens on file systems. Deal with it.
One of many copy and restore programs, because iTunes apparently does not do what users want.
Also called "the ephPod thing I was talking about before". Jesus christ.
A failed restore
Ever heard "the plural of anecdote is not data?" Cos it applies here.
Apple's trouble shooting recommendations.
You're pissed off that Apple offers support for a product it makes? Jesus twitter, you're insane.
No. The discussion I started here is about how people like you reject the iTunes music store.
You also managed to, in a reply to the discussion you started, talk a load of bullshit about "artificial restrictions", in which you managed to show off quite clearly that you are a moron and that you have no idea what you're talking about.
You know what, I'll give you my opinion. I have maybe 20, 30 songs from iTMS, and I'm not altogether fond of it, for the simple reason that, impulse purchases aside, I prefer having the physical CD. I'll still buy from iTMS if there's a single or anything that I want off there, that's about it. My iPod DOES do exactly what I want, and more to the point doesn't break while I'm doing it (like my Archos GMini did a while back), and I'm happy with it, but I haven't had enough experience with other Apple products to make a decent judgement.
There. Happy?
Mod parent funsightful (funny with some insightfulness...I dunno, I might as well invent a new moderation).
If you think all college students are going to download over BitTorrent is shit from Archive.org and/or Debian, you're more than a little deluded.
So, how do you transfer to an OpenZaurus then? Please enlighten me, twitter. If it requires any special software, you automatically fail.
You can transfer from iPod to computer using EphPod and GTKPod. You can plug your iPod into your PC without "self destructing", you either don't have iTunes installed so it won't do anything or you click the "Don't Replace" button when iTunes pops up. So long as you didn't buy your music from iTMS, you can move it around as much as you like.
Twitter, you've never used iTunes, you've never used an iPod and you are babbling on about something you only superficially know about from Wikipedia. To put it succintly: SHUT THE FUCK UP. Let people who actually know what they are talking about participate in this discussion, you go and sit in the corner and talk to yourself.
Shit, I hit Submit instead of Preview. Damn. Continuing anyway;
The quote about all the DRMed stores failing, and the others about Linux and other free software having surpassed non-free some time ago and the "everyone knows that..." strongly hints that you are on a completely different plane of reality from the rest of the world. I'm sure even RMS, generally accepted as being just a teensy bit OTT, wouldn't go as far as you do; you hop directly into the delusional category.
Please, stop posting this bullshit. You don't help your cause one iota.
Number two is obviously wrong, only DRM'd music stores are a failure and all of them have failed.
I stopped reading here.
Twitter, please read this carefully.
You get hounded by people for the simple and quite obvious reason that you talk bullshit, you spew FUD and you act like a 15 year old Linux fanboy. As soon as you stop doing those things people will stop harrassing you.
Ok, it's not FUD. It's just a pile of horseshit, which uses an already tenuous argument as an excuse to bash Microsoft.
So as soon as it becomes politics, you're allowed to talk whatever bollocks you feel like talking without any regard for the truth.
Wonderful.
The second one, perhaps, but the first one...so long as you only give out 4 copies you're alright as FairPlay goes. Unless your "friends" happen to lurk the other side of LimeWire.
"You can only play your music on up to 5 computers at once. You can burn it to CD if you like though, just not in the same track order for more than a few times."
Yeah, sounds like they're really fucking people over.
The article submitter's previous FUD-spewing and bullshit aside, this is a very stupid assertion, and very dishonest. He links to an example of ONE very small localised music service failing, assumedly due to DRM. However, he conveniently ignores iTunes, Yahoo Music, Napster, MSN Music, HMV Digital and many many others which are still going strong.
This is not to say I personally like buying from DRMed places (I don't, CDs for me ta, even if they get ripped into the same format) but just that the submitter was being a twit.
Sooo...it's FUD.
Because an honest intellectual debater needs to make shit up.
At least post the WHOIS information so we can burn down the person responsible's house.
Ultimately, you are only guaranteed the Freedom, not the means to utilize it in a convenient manner.
Mod parent up. So few people seem to get this.
Yes. PR DRONES. Paid by Microsoft.
Twitter, seek help.
I like Radiohead, Pink Floyd and The Smiths. If your idea was implemented, that would mean I would spend an inordinate amount of time looking at Thom Yorke, Roger Waters and Morrissey.
I would, on balance, rather kill myself.
I agree with you wholeheartedly, but twitter doesn't appear to be that sort I'm afraid...I just love his "freedom unless I don't like you" stuff, makes me laugh.;