This is one more thing that makes me believe that increasing trend of localization on the internet will soon be made mandatory throughout.
Already when I go to google.com the site will redirect me to google.de which proceeds to show me links to german websites that happen to use the english word I searched for (or something similar). ITunes has made it impossible for me to buy shows they offer in the US (but not Germany) or in the original language if I buy from ITunes-DE.
I was trying to look up a band on myspace made it was impossible to access.com through navigation due it redirecting to it myspace.de. Guess what: you won't find profiles of myspace.com on myspace.de:-/
World of Warcraft: The servers you can play on (and transfer to) depend on the region (NA, EU, AS) where you bought the game. I just hope that I'll never have a business trip outside of europe.
The BBC YouTube channel has different content depending on wether you access it from within the UK or from the outside.
What the hell is this shit? I don't care about licenses. Get a global license already! I don't care about language. Translation is fine but don't "force" me to only view what's available in my language
The way this is going the INTERnet is going to end up being loosly connected NATIONnets. This wasn't it's promise! The promise was that I can access services and content on my laptop in Timbuktu from anywhere in the world. This goes for Valve as well. Just make a single price throughout the world and let people choose where they prefer to buy. Face the fact that the rules have changed instead of forcing the old rules on a totally different game.
Well you can't blame the kid seeing that not single human in the whole world "understands" gravity.
Anyway, human understanding is based on abstraction. You don't explain the concept of a car to someone by starting with the chemical processes in a combustion engine. Instead complexity is increased after the fundamental abstractions are well understood.
So criminals will receive a newsletter regarding this, yeah? And whats dead anyway? Are you saying the scanners check for a pulse? Even this you could probably induce artificially.
Retinal scans and finger prints canners are surefire ways to loose an eye or your thumb. I'd never open an account with a bank that replaced PINs with biometrics.
... if there is any legit application for this. Yeah right: "password recovery". If someone lost their password usually the entity in charge of the authorization database (oder equivalent) just resets the password. It's not like GMAIL going "oh shit, someone lost his password. Spin up the brute force cracker. This is the fith today, I'm telling you we are almost out of processing power".
And security research? Isn't password security a straight forward calculation that doesn't need to be empirically verified?
If you learn the same way I do, for each topic get a concret and complex real world problem, get the teaching matierials (books, websites) and start trying to solve your problem. Let the questions you'll start having be answered by the book then website then discussion forum. When done read the chapter/book again in full. Solve some more abstract problems (excersises probably included in the book) of the same kind. Rinse, repeat. It really helps if you are able to program as you'll be able to come up with real word problems to math concepts easiely.
In retrospect it seems to me that my biggest obstacle to following (and remembering math) in high school was it's abstract nature and the abstract way it was taught. Basically math was and always has been on the schedule but the benefit or usefullness of it was not immediatly appearant, especially to teenagers who are notorios for having a hard time thinking beyond the next weekend.
Lately I've started programming little games (tetris clone, space fighter thingy) and really for the first time realized why triggernometry is something one should really know. So I picked up an intro book on this topic (which included a section about the mathematical concept of rulers... wtf?) and spent some time online researching. This combination of teaching materials and a concret, real world problem helped me to learn more about triangles and their friend the circle then I've ever learned in school.
I was wondering what your expierience has been. Did you try to get people into math by getting away from the self contained problem solving (learn math so you can solve (abstract) mathematical problems)?
Shows again how little you understand of the state and democracy. Even if you believe Europe is some democratic ideal (it's not. Tthe EU is hardly democratic at all) you must now that democracy depends on people to argue about what they think is right or wrong. I didn't argue legality, I argued morality.
Microsoft isn't a monopoly and so many verdicts by commisions (not even courts!) will not change that. It's a circular argument anyways: Microsoft has monopoly status because it pursues predatory business tactics (whatever this actually means...) and predatory business tactics aren't allowed because Microsoft is a monopoly.
You might be surprised to find out what sittenwiedrig really means. It's scope is very narrowly defined. A license agreement that assumes that units shipped == licenses is certainly not "sittenwiedrig" if the other party enters the deal by their on free will.
Anti-trust law is even by many non-libertarian economists considered to be a joke. Anyways, it's a circular argument to say that anti-trust regulation is right and just because anti-trust regulation is right an just. You still haven't addressed the property rights issue or the why you insist on unbundling the OS over say, RAM or hardd rive or any other component.
Yep, I live in europe and still think it's wrong. If you believe that this fine had anything to do with consumers you seriously need to take a look at governments past and present. What the EU is doing is nothing more than good old protectionism dressed up in new clothes. Or if you prefer: counter protectionism telling the US that if it slaps around european companies the EU will do the same to US ones.
I know what the goal of unbundling is. I'm completely clear on that point. I personally prefer more choice, too. But might doesn't make right and property rights are of a higher order then any law any government might pass.
First of all it's a myth that free market cartells need to be punished and regulated. There is simply no basis in econ theory a blanked statement like yours. But I don't even want to argue about that because that is not even the case here. For years and years you've been able to buy PCs without any operating system (or DR-DOS which amounts to the same thing).
Third point: I know about the license deals but there is nothing nefarious about it. It's an incentive and MS is well within it's right to offer it. After all, they own windows and therefore it's their decision whom to sell it to and to what conditions. Nothing in those deals precludes third-parties from selling bare systems. Or systems with linux on it. The hard and cold truth is that there are even less people wanting bare systems then there are wanting linux systems.
If the realworld resembled slashdot there should be loads of vendors that only sell without Windows because that's what the market wants, right? But it doesn't and the market doesn't and so there aren't. It's really that simple.
I'm from germany as well and I know about the Vobis case. The argument is ridiculos though. Microsoft said: if you carry us exclusivly you'll get rebates otherwise you pay the full price. What's wrong with that? They didn't force (people should look up what that word means from time to time) anyone to do anything, they only provided an incentive. It's such a common business practice that you probably don't notice that it's all around you. You think Daimler doesn't have exclusive deals with their spare parts suppliers?
It's really beside the point. In a corp every decision is ultimatly taken by a human being that has been authorized by the owner(s) of the company and it's asssets. Human Rights are still relevant because of that. There's no way to unbundle windows from PCs against the will of business owners without infringing on their property rights and freedom of association.
Right, corperations are not sentient. That's why a corp doesn't decide what to put on it's shelf and who it wants to do business with. Ultimately those actions are taken by the owner (or owners). Among the human rights is freedom and protection of property. Freedom of association means that business owners can buy and sell from and to who they choose. Proction of property means that business owners are the ones deciding which goods to sell and at which prices.
Forcing a business owner to sell PCs in a certain way deprives him of freedom of association and protection of property.
Even if it where true that (it's not) you can't buy a computer without MS Windows on it then you are SOL. It's not just to take away rights of other people only so that you may get what you want.
In this scenario there is no force involved though. Force only comes into play when the Feds kick down doors because a business owner decided to preload the wrong operating system.
Right cause corperations are run by robots *mind boggles*.
Who are you trying to dictate what any business *has to* offer you? If they won't sell you a PC without OS then don't do business there. It's really that simple and there is no force involved at all.
Says who? Who are you to tell someone how to run their store?
Besided, try choosing your RAM manufacturer or the model of the power supply. Good luck with that!
I wish I would get money for expressing my opinion... Anyways, I'm not 'guilty' of any of the chestnuts mentioned in your post. About Windows XP stability: this is certainly not propanda. Rather it's acknowledged by both camps (pro linux, pro windows) that stability was never an issue on NT based windows.
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This is one more thing that makes me believe that increasing trend of localization on the internet will soon be made mandatory throughout.
.com through navigation due it redirecting to it myspace.de. Guess what: you won't find profiles of myspace.com on myspace.de :-/
Already when I go to google.com the site will redirect me to google.de which proceeds to show me links to german websites that happen to use the english word I searched for (or something similar).
ITunes has made it impossible for me to buy shows they offer in the US (but not Germany) or in the original language if I buy from ITunes-DE.
I was trying to look up a band on myspace made it was impossible to access
World of Warcraft: The servers you can play on (and transfer to) depend on the region (NA, EU, AS) where you bought the game. I just hope that I'll never have a business trip outside of europe.
The BBC YouTube channel has different content depending on wether you access it from within the UK or from the outside.
What the hell is this shit? I don't care about licenses. Get a global license already! I don't care about language. Translation is fine but don't "force" me to only view what's available in my language
The way this is going the INTERnet is going to end up being loosly connected NATIONnets.
This wasn't it's promise! The promise was that I can access services and content on my laptop in Timbuktu from anywhere in the world.
This goes for Valve as well. Just make a single price throughout the world and let people choose where they prefer to buy. Face the fact that the rules have changed instead of forcing the old rules on a totally different game.
Well you can't blame the kid seeing that not single human in the whole world "understands" gravity. Anyway, human understanding is based on abstraction. You don't explain the concept of a car to someone by starting with the chemical processes in a combustion engine. Instead complexity is increased after the fundamental abstractions are well understood.
Seriously!
It must be the truth, why else would he say "seriously". I mean it's not a jest, so much is certain!
ID is ridiculos and I'm soooo tired of seeing it dragged into every single discussion about any science.
So criminals will receive a newsletter regarding this, yeah? And whats dead anyway? Are you saying the scanners check for a pulse? Even this you could probably induce artificially.
Woops, sorry about that!
Retinal scans and finger prints canners are surefire ways to loose an eye or your thumb. I'd never open an account with a bank that replaced PINs with biometrics.
... if there is any legit application for this. Yeah right: "password recovery". If someone lost their password usually the entity in charge of the authorization database (oder equivalent) just resets the password. It's not like GMAIL going "oh shit, someone lost his password. Spin up the brute force cracker. This is the fith today, I'm telling you we are almost out of processing power".
And security research? Isn't password security a straight forward calculation that doesn't need to be empirically verified?
If you learn the same way I do, for each topic get a concret and complex real world problem, get the teaching matierials (books, websites) and start trying to solve your problem. Let the questions you'll start having be answered by the book then website then discussion forum. When done read the chapter/book again in full. Solve some more abstract problems (excersises probably included in the book) of the same kind. Rinse, repeat. It really helps if you are able to program as you'll be able to come up with real word problems to math concepts easiely.
In retrospect it seems to me that my biggest obstacle to following (and remembering math) in high school was it's abstract nature and the abstract way it was taught. Basically math was and always has been on the schedule but the benefit or usefullness of it was not immediatly appearant, especially to teenagers who are notorios for having a hard time thinking beyond the next weekend.
... wtf?) and spent some time online researching. This combination of teaching materials and a concret, real world problem helped me to learn more about triangles and their friend the circle then I've ever learned in school.
Lately I've started programming little games (tetris clone, space fighter thingy) and really for the first time realized why triggernometry is something one should really know. So I picked up an intro book on this topic (which included a section about the mathematical concept of rulers
I was wondering what your expierience has been. Did you try to get people into math by getting away from the self contained problem solving (learn math so you can solve (abstract) mathematical problems)?
Shows again how little you understand of the state and democracy. Even if you believe Europe is some democratic ideal (it's not. Tthe EU is hardly democratic at all) you must now that democracy depends on people to argue about what they think is right or wrong. I didn't argue legality, I argued morality.
Yep, an the state is beyond any doubts, right? We germans learned that one good!
Microsoft isn't a monopoly and so many verdicts by commisions (not even courts!) will not change that. It's a circular argument anyways: Microsoft has monopoly status because it pursues predatory business tactics (whatever this actually means ...) and predatory business tactics aren't allowed because Microsoft is a monopoly.
You might be surprised to find out what sittenwiedrig really means. It's scope is very narrowly defined. A license agreement that assumes that units shipped == licenses is certainly not "sittenwiedrig" if the other party enters the deal by their on free will.
Anti-trust law is even by many non-libertarian economists considered to be a joke. Anyways, it's a circular argument to say that anti-trust regulation is right and just because anti-trust regulation is right an just. You still haven't addressed the property rights issue or the why you insist on unbundling the OS over say, RAM or hardd rive or any other component.
No actually I'm just pro-panda and like to slip subliminal messages in my post so you'll donate to the WWF next time you see their logo ;)
Yep, I live in europe and still think it's wrong. If you believe that this fine had anything to do with consumers you seriously need to take a look at governments past and present. What the EU is doing is nothing more than good old protectionism dressed up in new clothes. Or if you prefer: counter protectionism telling the US that if it slaps around european companies the EU will do the same to US ones.
I know what the goal of unbundling is. I'm completely clear on that point. I personally prefer more choice, too. But might doesn't make right and property rights are of a higher order then any law any government might pass.
First of all it's a myth that free market cartells need to be punished and regulated. There is simply no basis in econ theory a blanked statement like yours. But I don't even want to argue about that because that is not even the case here. For years and years you've been able to buy PCs without any operating system (or DR-DOS which amounts to the same thing).
Third point: I know about the license deals but there is nothing nefarious about it. It's an incentive and MS is well within it's right to offer it. After all, they own windows and therefore it's their decision whom to sell it to and to what conditions. Nothing in those deals precludes third-parties from selling bare systems. Or systems with linux on it. The hard and cold truth is that there are even less people wanting bare systems then there are wanting linux systems.
If the realworld resembled slashdot there should be loads of vendors that only sell without Windows because that's what the market wants, right? But it doesn't and the market doesn't and so there aren't. It's really that simple.
I'm from germany as well and I know about the Vobis case. The argument is ridiculos though. Microsoft said: if you carry us exclusivly you'll get rebates otherwise you pay the full price. What's wrong with that? They didn't force (people should look up what that word means from time to time) anyone to do anything, they only provided an incentive. It's such a common business practice that you probably don't notice that it's all around you. You think Daimler doesn't have exclusive deals with their spare parts suppliers?
It's really beside the point. In a corp every decision is ultimatly taken by a human being that has been authorized by the owner(s) of the company and it's asssets. Human Rights are still relevant because of that. There's no way to unbundle windows from PCs against the will of business owners without infringing on their property rights and freedom of association.
If you cut enough context most statements become ridiculos.
Right, corperations are not sentient. That's why a corp doesn't decide what to put on it's shelf and who it wants to do business with. Ultimately those actions are taken by the owner (or owners). Among the human rights is freedom and protection of property. Freedom of association means that business owners can buy and sell from and to who they choose. Proction of property means that business owners are the ones deciding which goods to sell and at which prices.
Forcing a business owner to sell PCs in a certain way deprives him of freedom of association and protection of property.
Even if it where true that (it's not) you can't buy a computer without MS Windows on it then you are SOL. It's not just to take away rights of other people only so that you may get what you want.
In this scenario there is no force involved though. Force only comes into play when the Feds kick down doors because a business owner decided to preload the wrong operating system.
Corporations do consist of what exactly in you universe? Cause in mine it's an organization of human beings.
Right cause corperations are run by robots *mind boggles*.
Who are you trying to dictate what any business *has to* offer you? If they won't sell you a PC without OS then don't do business there. It's really that simple and there is no force involved at all.
Says who? Who are you to tell someone how to run their store?
Besided, try choosing your RAM manufacturer or the model of the power supply. Good luck with that!
Exactly!
I wish I would get money for expressing my opinion ... Anyways, I'm not 'guilty' of any of the chestnuts mentioned in your post. About Windows XP stability: this is certainly not propanda. Rather it's acknowledged by both camps (pro linux, pro windows) that stability was never an issue on NT based windows.