Maybe your initial assumption is just baseless? It'd be more reasonable to expect that the government computers are safe since there's been no incidents so far eventhough the target is high profile. Which would indicate that cops are quite the hackers. Maybe they use contacts and know-how from the cyber-crime units that every european police force has?
Class balance in wow is excellent. I can tell because everyone* thinks they've been (and will be) treated unfairly by blizzard, that they loose to everyone and that they can beat everyone. ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
Priests are fine. Really.
* (people that troll the official forum)
see this is where you are horribly, horribly wrong. If software patents where in-vogue in the 70ies there would be one patenting "a structured query languague used for retrieving and storing data from/to abitrary storage" and "a mechanism to ensure that business processes implemented in computer programs only transition from one functionally correct and consitant state to an other". Those two and nobody could build an RDBMS, except the patenter. There would be no oracle or mysql or possibly (if the patenter is stubborn and malicious) no single legal database like software.
Don't you understand?
Nuclear power baaad! Car baaad! Cellphone baaad! Agriculture baaad! Our technology is SIN. Every comfort we've taken away from earth/nature/gaija.
Unless we repent, the SKY WILL BE FALLING!
Don't bother discussing about CO2: these people will not settle for anything less then the abolishment of human culture.
... seriously, at least we will be safe in the knowledge that government WILL go on when disaster strikes. Go on being a complete and utter failure that is. And for the cost of only a few trillions. Bargain I say!
On a related note, picturing a civilization descentant completely from government workers is quite amusing. What will leeches do without hosts? Man-on-Man cani-action, thats what! At least the TV programming will be entertaining, as long as it lasts.
just as people are against wiretapping because they want to join the mob or deal drugs? I don't think so. Argument from principle is so 18th century, right? I mean, most won't even recognize it anymore.
First of all, even if everything you said where true, most "pirates" (Yaaarrr) don't share your reasons. For them, downloading is only about not paying money for things they want. Nor is "sharing" as put forth by you a meaningful concept for the larger part of the "file sharing" community. It's not about showing your friends what kinda music you like. I do that with my pandora.com favorties. It's not about discovery or deep discussions. You type in "Finding Nemo" and incidently, while it's downloading, your program also uploads stuff to others, strangers and not friends. Most would turn it off if they could since it messes up your ping in WoW so much.
Also, I totally disagree with what you are saying about artists and record companies. Is anyone forcing artists on record lables? Aren't they free to sell their stuff online and give concerts and sell little button pins already? Why are so few famous artists doing it then? Why does every garage band strive to get on a lable? Has the RIAA death-squats that takes out independant artists?
This is such an insightful post. The mod who modded this flamebait should be ashamed. Mod, you are not doing your job. You are using your mod points to punish someone for a statement that only expresses the reality of copyright laws. It's just the run of the mill justification (in the true sense of the word) for why they exists. In no way can this even be interpreted as taking a side in this debate.
unfortunatly the author and the author he quotes have no clue of the game. The one thing that sticks out in WoW is that you basically get to kill every "race" in the game. As alliance you kill human members of "evil" rogue syndicates (defias), you kill evil dwarfs (darkiron), evil gnomes (shadowcouncil), evil orcs, evil elves, evil dragons etc etc pp. At the same time you work for good trolls (zandarla), good undead (argent dawn), good tauren (cenarion) etc.
In WoW, no race is good or evil. At the most, factions are. Even then, often it's ambiguos at best.
I really, really want the union to protect my job from those that want to join the IT industry later than me. Also, I really want those union fat cats cashing in by blackmailing my company.
How could I life with out needless bureaucracy and improved surveillance (those who don't know, attendance recorders are in most cases instated by unions.). What's not to like about getting paid not by your performance but by how long you've been in the company? I want to take part in ridiculos strike actions to have my wages increased by 0.0001% when ununionized companies grow so much faster that their employees soon earn twice as much as me.
Lastly, I really don't feel comfortable being treated as a human being that can negotiate his own contracts.
I'm a sheep so it would please me if the union would be my shepherd (not without getting rich w/o doing squat shit, of course). You may also violate me once in a while.
no he is saying: instead of giving bosses 10 queens (chess) but no intelligence, make the board even and and give the computer the ability to learn and be smart.
There are so many great stories in WoW alone. Any of the better Quests could be made into the central plotline (onyxia story comes to mind, "The missing Diplomat" Quest, the stuff going on with the forsaken etc). Then there are the other games and the "history". WC3's story made into a movie wouldn't be half bad, I think. Illidian, also very nice. For added drama the Theramoore thing where the daughter has to take up arms against her, now mad, father. There certainly is potential, and I think the percent chances of it being good are about equal to the percent involvment that Blizzard has in the creation of this movie.
1.judging content on commercial basis (i.e. prices) is wrong.Just because someone charges money for content doesn't guarantees its top-notch.
true. But you can see that it has some value to someone. Also, it's justified to say that content nobody would ever buy is probably inferior to content that is actually selling right now.
Of course you need big bucks to upload your video/music/Book torrent and getting hosted costs gazillions of dollars.yeah.I get the idea. yeah, because nobody actually likes physical manifestations of the products they buy. Or you know, buy stuff in real stores. Now I get the idea.
A professinal Microphone,and Professional recorder,Or profesional Camera,Professional video editing software,and other profesionall things. Are you kiding me? A nice sound-setup for playing live costs the same as a small house. And you only need a camera for shooting movies/show? I guess everybody must then be content to watch different incarnations of blair witch project/big brother for all eternity
My copy of Finding Nemo would belong to me(if i was crazy enough to purchase such crap) and they have no control how i use it.Maybe i like to torrent it?
Wow, we found something we can agree on! But that's something entirely different from what you've been saying before. I agree, selling so called "IP" shouldn't appear to the customer the same as a real transfer of ownership title. The contract you sign upon paying should explicitly state what the conditions of use are. Then it would be more like the service it really is. Also, Nemo is a really nice movie. Go see it with a [girl|guy] you like:-D
You got it all figured out pretty good, huh? Oh well, there is much wrong with your post, I don't even know where to start. First of all, slashdot posts, wikipedia entries, amateur video clips or funny funny image macros require little or no capital to create. They also suck compared to the wonders of modern cinema/TV/literature. You know how I know? Because nobody would drop a dime on this shit, all the while every grandpa downloads emminem from itunes for 2 bucks. Just as with software, there will always be people that enjoy making this stuff and get their satisfaction from other people just enjoying it. That's their profit. Once you go to the professional level, where you need serious bandwith for distribution and serious money for production assets, in other words when the garage doesn't cut it anymore and you need a recording studio, you need to charge money one way or an other just to get even. Then you might also figure that you could earn a living with your "product". Bingo, "industry sell-out". MySpace. Yeah, there are a lot of bands there that give away their songs. It's like a demo. In the future I'm sure most of them will want to actually sell records.
> Becuase its unfair to have any value created out of nothing and assigned to pieces of
> data which can be copied at no expense.
but it's not. "Finding Nemo" didn't materialize out of the ether. It was created by people and therefore belongs to those people.
It's funny when someones argument actually defeats his point. Just look at the quality of slashdot posts on average. You certain that you want your music, TV, movies, books, newspapers to have that level of quality? I certainly don't. Also, what does "industy-sponsoed" sellouts even mean? And if this term is actually derogative of content producers and/or their content why steal it (the content) then?
Just because a certain service and/or product don't have a value for you doesn't prove that it hasn't got value per se (to anyone else). The fact that somebody somewhere is paying for those pixels proves that there is value associated with them.
It is plain wrong that those floods broke all time records. I'm sorry, but "don't believe their lies". It's very funny to watch TV here, see them point the camera to the flood meter which they have in every town that got flooded at one time, where there are levels of up to 2 meters higher than the current "record" flood marked for years anywhere from the 15-hundreths to 1850. And the voice-over to this video feed has the gut to tell you that "water levels have never been that high".
Also, one shouldn't forget that most major european waterways have been modified to make them more suitable for cargo ships. This includes artificially increasing the flow-speed and straightening them out. In addition, construction and deforestation near the rivers has been at an all time high especially in the regions that where formerly eastern-bloc after the wall came down in 1989. As any expert on the subject of floodings will tell you, all of this increases the chances of a flood occuring, carry the flood futher downstream and make the floods all around worse.
The problem with climate alarmists is that they never remember that "post hoc ergo propter hoc" is almost always wrong.
Slashdot Mirror
Submitter doesn't know what doublethink is.
Heres a hint: it's not pointing out different sides of the same coin.
Maybe your initial assumption is just baseless? It'd be more reasonable to expect that the government computers are safe since there's been no incidents so far eventhough the target is high profile. Which would indicate that cops are quite the hackers. Maybe they use contacts and know-how from the cyber-crime units that every european police force has?
Class balance in wow is excellent. I can tell because everyone* thinks they've been (and will be) treated unfairly by blizzard, that they loose to everyone and that they can beat everyone. ALL AT THE SAME TIME. Priests are fine. Really. * (people that troll the official forum)
many running apps? BeOS? Okay ...
see this is where you are horribly, horribly wrong. If software patents where in-vogue in the 70ies there would be one patenting "a structured query languague used for retrieving and storing data from/to abitrary storage" and "a mechanism to ensure that business processes implemented in computer programs only transition from one functionally correct and consitant state to an other". Those two and nobody could build an RDBMS, except the patenter. There would be no oracle or mysql or possibly (if the patenter is stubborn and malicious) no single legal database like software.
Don't you understand?
Nuclear power baaad! Car baaad! Cellphone baaad! Agriculture baaad!
Our technology is SIN. Every comfort we've taken away from earth/nature/gaija.
Unless we repent, the SKY WILL BE FALLING!
Don't bother discussing about CO2: these people will not settle for anything less then the abolishment of human culture.
... seriously, at least we will be safe in the knowledge that government WILL go on when disaster strikes. Go on being a complete and utter failure that is. And for the cost of only a few trillions. Bargain I say!
On a related note, picturing a civilization descentant completely from government workers is quite amusing. What will leeches do without hosts? Man-on-Man cani-action, thats what! At least the TV programming will be entertaining, as long as it lasts.
just as people are against wiretapping because they want to join the mob or deal drugs? I don't think so. Argument from principle is so 18th century, right? I mean, most won't even recognize it anymore.
yeah I do. Seriously. What the hell say has the "community" in what my child can and can not see? The parents, it's where it's at.
missing "end if" leads to a runtime error. 'Nough said. Oh yeah, also the IDE is hellspawm.
First of all, even if everything you said where true, most "pirates" (Yaaarrr) don't share your reasons. For them, downloading is only about not paying money for things they want. Nor is "sharing" as put forth by you a meaningful concept for the larger part of the "file sharing" community. It's not about showing your friends what kinda music you like. I do that with my pandora.com favorties. It's not about discovery or deep discussions. You type in "Finding Nemo" and incidently, while it's downloading, your program also uploads stuff to others, strangers and not friends. Most would turn it off if they could since it messes up your ping in WoW so much.
Also, I totally disagree with what you are saying about artists and record companies. Is anyone forcing artists on record lables? Aren't they free to sell their stuff online and give concerts and sell little button pins already? Why are so few famous artists doing it then? Why does every garage band strive to get on a lable? Has the RIAA death-squats that takes out independant artists?
This is such an insightful post. The mod who modded this flamebait should be ashamed. Mod, you are not doing your job. You are using your mod points to punish someone for a statement that only expresses the reality of copyright laws. It's just the run of the mill justification (in the true sense of the word) for why they exists. In no way can this even be interpreted as taking a side in this debate.
unfortunatly the author and the author he quotes have no clue of the game. The one thing that sticks out in WoW is that you basically get to kill every "race" in the game. As alliance you kill human members of "evil" rogue syndicates (defias), you kill evil dwarfs (darkiron), evil gnomes (shadowcouncil), evil orcs, evil elves, evil dragons etc etc pp. At the same time you work for good trolls (zandarla), good undead (argent dawn), good tauren (cenarion) etc. In WoW, no race is good or evil. At the most, factions are. Even then, often it's ambiguos at best.
yeah, let's do it!
I really, really want the union to protect my job from those that want to join the IT industry later than me. Also, I really want those union fat cats cashing in by blackmailing my company.
How could I life with out needless bureaucracy and improved surveillance (those who don't know, attendance recorders are in most cases instated by unions.).
What's not to like about getting paid not by your performance but by how long you've been in the company?
I want to take part in ridiculos strike actions to have my wages increased by 0.0001% when ununionized companies grow so much faster that their employees soon earn twice as much as me.
Lastly, I really don't feel comfortable being treated as a human being that can negotiate his own contracts.
I'm a sheep so it would please me if the union would be my shepherd (not without getting rich w/o doing squat shit, of course). You may also violate me once in a while.
no he is saying: instead of giving bosses 10 queens (chess) but no intelligence, make the board even and and give the computer the ability to learn and be smart.
that movie is awesome. Really, every WoW player should see it. If you want to watch it right away, no download or registration, use this link:
l legalDanishSuperSnacks.movie
http://www.warcraftcinema.com/00220060405000001/I
Also: "c'mmon baby, I got blessing of protection!"
Sauron is an evil albino with a runesword? Frodo? What!?
There are so many great stories in WoW alone. Any of the better Quests could be made into the central plotline (onyxia story comes to mind, "The missing Diplomat" Quest, the stuff going on with the forsaken etc). Then there are the other games and the "history". WC3's story made into a movie wouldn't be half bad, I think. Illidian, also very nice. For added drama the Theramoore thing where the daughter has to take up arms against her, now mad, father. There certainly is potential, and I think the percent chances of it being good are about equal to the percent involvment that Blizzard has in the creation of this movie.
just say no! No, no need to thank me! Can we have something that's interessting now?
only if you are a little uptight :-D
1.judging content on commercial basis (i.e. prices) is wrong.Just because someone charges money for content doesn't guarantees its top-notch.
:-D
true. But you can see that it has some value to someone. Also, it's justified to say that content nobody would ever buy is probably inferior to content that is actually selling right now.
Of course you need big bucks to upload your video/music/Book torrent and getting hosted costs gazillions of dollars.yeah.I get the idea.
yeah, because nobody actually likes physical manifestations of the products they buy. Or you know, buy stuff in real stores. Now I get the idea.
A professinal Microphone,and Professional recorder,Or profesional Camera,Professional video editing software,and other profesionall things.
Are you kiding me? A nice sound-setup for playing live costs the same as a small house. And you only need a camera for shooting movies/show? I guess everybody must then be content to watch different incarnations of blair witch project/big brother for all eternity
My copy of Finding Nemo would belong to me(if i was crazy enough to purchase such crap) and they have no control how i use it.Maybe i like to torrent it?
Wow, we found something we can agree on! But that's something entirely different from what you've been saying before. I agree, selling so called "IP" shouldn't appear to the customer the same as a real transfer of ownership title. The contract you sign upon paying should explicitly state what the conditions of use are. Then it would be more like the service it really is. Also, Nemo is a really nice movie. Go see it with a [girl|guy] you like
You got it all figured out pretty good, huh? Oh well, there is much wrong with your post, I don't even know where to start. First of all, slashdot posts, wikipedia entries, amateur video clips or funny funny image macros require little or no capital to create. They also suck compared to the wonders of modern cinema/TV/literature. You know how I know? Because nobody would drop a dime on this shit, all the while every grandpa downloads emminem from itunes for 2 bucks. Just as with software, there will always be people that enjoy making this stuff and get their satisfaction from other people just enjoying it. That's their profit. Once you go to the professional level, where you need serious bandwith for distribution and serious money for production assets, in other words when the garage doesn't cut it anymore and you need a recording studio, you need to charge money one way or an other just to get even. Then you might also figure that you could earn a living with your "product". Bingo, "industry sell-out". MySpace. Yeah, there are a lot of bands there that give away their songs. It's like a demo. In the future I'm sure most of them will want to actually sell records.
> Becuase its unfair to have any value created out of nothing and assigned to pieces of > data which can be copied at no expense.
but it's not. "Finding Nemo" didn't materialize out of the ether. It was created by people and therefore belongs to those people.
It's funny when someones argument actually defeats his point. Just look at the quality of slashdot posts on average. You certain that you want your music, TV, movies, books, newspapers to have that level of quality? I certainly don't. Also, what does "industy-sponsoed" sellouts even mean? And if this term is actually derogative of content producers and/or their content why steal it (the content) then?
Just because a certain service and/or product don't have a value for you doesn't prove that it hasn't got value per se (to anyone else). The fact that somebody somewhere is paying for those pixels proves that there is value associated with them.
It is plain wrong that those floods broke all time records. I'm sorry, but "don't believe their lies". It's very funny to watch TV here, see them point the camera to the flood meter which they have in every town that got flooded at one time, where there are levels of up to 2 meters higher than the current "record" flood marked for years anywhere from the 15-hundreths to 1850. And the voice-over to this video feed has the gut to tell you that "water levels have never been that high".
Also, one shouldn't forget that most major european waterways have been modified to make them more suitable for cargo ships. This includes artificially increasing the flow-speed and straightening them out. In addition, construction and deforestation near the rivers has been at an all time high especially in the regions that where formerly eastern-bloc after the wall came down in 1989. As any expert on the subject of floodings will tell you, all of this increases the chances of a flood occuring, carry the flood futher downstream and make the floods all around worse. The problem with climate alarmists is that they never remember that "post hoc ergo propter hoc" is almost always wrong.