If the programmer was smart enough to _not_ make the process bulletproof it might.
But remember, 'unfireable is unpromotable'.
But remember managers, if you will never promote anyhow, there is no loss to making yourself unfireable. Bonus, employee knows he's leaving a timebomb for the PHB when he finally does leave, which _should_ put a smile on his face.
You understand that most managers would just dump on more work and leave pay the same, perhaps with some vague promises they will never keep.
Employees, seeing that, will than act in their own self interest. Why would I work to increase a managers bonus when there is _nothing_but_more_work_ in it for me?
It's not unlike a manager that fires someone, no notice, no pay in lieu. They should expect to never get notice from employees, unless it's convenient for the employee.
This all comes down to: 'If you want more money, the best way is to change jobs.' I didn't set that up, just observed it. 'They' can't blame anyone for working the system 'they' setup.
If a manager just wants results and that's what they get, they are no more victims than a manager that rewards high LOC/day programmers.
It's usually much harder to make an automated process truly bulletproof, vs having to monitor. So I'd assume a daily exception check at least.
In that situation, I'd be studying for a better job with 100% of my spare time. But that's because the situation described implies intolerably clueless management, not because I'd feel at all guilty for taking the money for a job I was, in fact, doing.
Supervisors overload, employees featherbed. This is the way of the world.
Sorry, no, employers 'get what they manage for'. If all they want is the job done for a _salary_, then all they get is the job done.
That's a defect in management. Should recognize good employees autonomy and use better metrics.
A technically clueless manager is both a problem and an opportunity For every task you can automate and sleepwalk through, there will be problem caused by the moron. The trick with a clueless manager is get yourself some clearly defined responsibilities and play stupid as him/her outside that realm.
As the old saying goes: 'If you act like a dumbshit, they will treat you as an equal.'
Your attitude is what leaves people unequipped for life. By telling that lie, you tell kids they can wait to start making an effort and it will 'all be fine'. The worst thing you could tell them.
It's biology, kids learn better than adults. If they haven't learned to learn by 18, the best they can do is some sort of 'certificate of attendance' degree, which are common enough, but worthless.
So your story is: You started Jr college taking remedial algebra? How many years was that Engineering BS?
I took algebra freshman year in HS...Soph Geometry, Jr PreCalc, Sr AP Calc. You were _years_ behind.
Did you know how to add fractions? You overestimate the abilities of the true air thief.
Everybody 'straightens up' to some extent. But those that don't get serious until after their brains have aged out of easy learning are pretty screwed.
I actually know some adults that can't use a tape measure, apparently it's common enough they sometimes don't get jobs because they fail the 'tape measure test'. Just pitiful.
People learn to be productive over years, everybody productive has 'paid dues'. A 30 year old 'air thief' is beyond help, years of bad habits are ingrained.
Most lazy and unproductive people have quite good 'self images', part of the problem is they think they're above working.
You supposed to have learned something useful while still a kid. If your hiring on the cheap, the best you can do is a kid that won't be there for long. The adults available to you are just useless.
Not all jobs are intended to support independent people with families. That is the fundamental lie told by the 'living wage' morons.
It's true that slaves were _lousy_ workers, but don't tell the libs who claim 'slaves built America'. They will call you a Nazi.
Sure they can get into a Jr college. But unless they've changed it's a waste of time and money.
Do you really expect them to 'get it' on their third or fourth attempt at learning algebra? Especially when the real problem is they can't even add fractions or use a tape measure?
But Henry Ford increased his workers wages, then fired the lot of them and hired the better people his new salary got him. All industrial plants at the time had insane turnover and training costs. Ford fixed that for himself while making it worse for his competitors by paying $5/day (which he actually didn't, he _bonused_ to $5/day. But only if the workers homelife passed routine 'inspection'.)
Ford was an asshole. Hated 'the Jews'. Hated 'investors'. (He bluffed that he was 'quitting', then bought his shares back cheap, Musk has nothing on him.) Invaded his workers privacy etc. Authoritarian enough to be a commie, thank dog capitalism restrained him.
If the programmer was smart enough to _not_ make the process bulletproof it might.
But remember, 'unfireable is unpromotable'.
But remember managers, if you will never promote anyhow, there is no loss to making yourself unfireable. Bonus, employee knows he's leaving a timebomb for the PHB when he finally does leave, which _should_ put a smile on his face.
You understand that most managers would just dump on more work and leave pay the same, perhaps with some vague promises they will never keep.
Employees, seeing that, will than act in their own self interest. Why would I work to increase a managers bonus when there is _nothing_but_more_work_ in it for me?
It's not unlike a manager that fires someone, no notice, no pay in lieu. They should expect to never get notice from employees, unless it's convenient for the employee.
This all comes down to: 'If you want more money, the best way is to change jobs.' I didn't set that up, just observed it. 'They' can't blame anyone for working the system 'they' setup.
Victim?
Managers get what they manage for.
If a manager just wants results and that's what they get, they are no more victims than a manager that rewards high LOC/day programmers.
It's usually much harder to make an automated process truly bulletproof, vs having to monitor. So I'd assume a daily exception check at least.
In that situation, I'd be studying for a better job with 100% of my spare time. But that's because the situation described implies intolerably clueless management, not because I'd feel at all guilty for taking the money for a job I was, in fact, doing.
Mordac, "Preventer of Information Services" is posting on /.
Jobs are 'owned' by the people paying, not the people doing.
Supervisors overload, employees featherbed. This is the way of the world.
Sorry, no, employers 'get what they manage for'. If all they want is the job done for a _salary_, then all they get is the job done.
That's a defect in management. Should recognize good employees autonomy and use better metrics.
A technically clueless manager is both a problem and an opportunity For every task you can automate and sleepwalk through, there will be problem caused by the moron. The trick with a clueless manager is get yourself some clearly defined responsibilities and play stupid as him/her outside that realm.
As the old saying goes: 'If you act like a dumbshit, they will treat you as an equal.'
Doesn't match the poetry of 'What we possessive that others without.'
If google could translate like that, they'd have something.
I can afford a proofreader for those times it matters.
Grammarians are useless.
Bullshit.
Your attitude is what leaves people unequipped for life. By telling that lie, you tell kids they can wait to start making an effort and it will 'all be fine'. The worst thing you could tell them.
It's biology, kids learn better than adults. If they haven't learned to learn by 18, the best they can do is some sort of 'certificate of attendance' degree, which are common enough, but worthless.
I'm not disputing that slaves are lousy workers. Just telling you that saying it will get you called a Nazi, by people like you.
Your supposed to believe that 'slaves built America'. Get with the program.
No. The answer is for people whose work is _not_worth_ minimum wage to serve as a warning to later generations.
Don't make the bad decisions sjames made...
Moron. Cooked in at 18 is not 'inherently'. They fucked up, now they are _screwed_.
Young minds learn better, waste that time window and you are screwed. But you know that, just look at your life.
So your story is: You started Jr college taking remedial algebra? How many years was that Engineering BS?
I took algebra freshman year in HS...Soph Geometry, Jr PreCalc, Sr AP Calc. You were _years_ behind.
Did you know how to add fractions? You overestimate the abilities of the true air thief.
Everybody 'straightens up' to some extent. But those that don't get serious until after their brains have aged out of easy learning are pretty screwed.
I actually know some adults that can't use a tape measure, apparently it's common enough they sometimes don't get jobs because they fail the 'tape measure test'. Just pitiful.
Fuck you too, right in the ear.
California thinks the parts west of the coast range are batshit crazy.
The worst shithole in America (Decatur Illinois IMHO) is still too expensive for these scumbags.
IP phones and number spoofing is ubiquitous.
The only scammers making robocalls from CA are CA politicians, who always exempt themselves from these laws.
_All_ the companies you think are California based are Delaware corps.
Don't take my word for it, look it up.
People learn to be productive over years, everybody productive has 'paid dues'. A 30 year old 'air thief' is beyond help, years of bad habits are ingrained.
Most lazy and unproductive people have quite good 'self images', part of the problem is they think they're above working.
You supposed to have learned something useful while still a kid. If your hiring on the cheap, the best you can do is a kid that won't be there for long. The adults available to you are just useless.
Not all jobs are intended to support independent people with families. That is the fundamental lie told by the 'living wage' morons.
It's true that slaves were _lousy_ workers, but don't tell the libs who claim 'slaves built America'. They will call you a Nazi.
Your pretending to not know any 'air thieves'.
American 'unemployables' are basically illiterate, certainly innumerate, entitled and lazy as all fuck. Also chronic fuckups.
Better luck next reincarnation!
People's traits are 99% 'cooked in' by the time they are 18. Nothing anybody can do about it. 'Wish into one hand...'
Sure they can get into a Jr college. But unless they've changed it's a waste of time and money.
Do you really expect them to 'get it' on their third or fourth attempt at learning algebra? Especially when the real problem is they can't even add fractions or use a tape measure?
Not the history. Netflix wanted the rack space for _free_.
When that didn't work, they started bitching about network neutrality.
Hint: We have a shortage of capable workers today. To the point that people that can barely fog a mirror think they're worth $15/hour.
There might be some argument today.
But Henry Ford increased his workers wages, then fired the lot of them and hired the better people his new salary got him. All industrial plants at the time had insane turnover and training costs. Ford fixed that for himself while making it worse for his competitors by paying $5/day (which he actually didn't, he _bonused_ to $5/day. But only if the workers homelife passed routine 'inspection'.)
Ford was an asshole. Hated 'the Jews'. Hated 'investors'. (He bluffed that he was 'quitting', then bought his shares back cheap, Musk has nothing on him.) Invaded his workers privacy etc. Authoritarian enough to be a commie, thank dog capitalism restrained him.
The tax is a penalty for hiring crappy workers.
What they choose isn't relevant, basically never is. They made all their choices that mattered in middle and high school.