Unless it involves solder, duct tape, resin, thermal vents, dremels or other implements of destruction, then it's not a hack.
Hack == soldering a fan to the MOBO to increase cooling ability, then cutting holes in the case to mount it. Or installing a switch that will change the clock rate.
They only see the dollar signs. It's not like they are 'braver' then the Open Source projects to call IE release quality. The OS guys are just more honest, instead of saying 'yes this software will solve all your problems, it never crashes, and runs really fast. We are sure that this software will work.' The OS guys say, 'this is what we've encountered, here's the performance metrics (if there are any) and here's the code, have fun, but we don't ensure this software to work in all cases.' MS charges an arm and a leg for the software that you can't even get a bug fixed on.
BTW, SourceForge is not where people go to release software into the wild, it's where people who have an itch to scratch in the software world go to try and get more people to help them. If you are good enough to write quality software by yourself you are not going to SourceForge.
Today, the only reason that I don't like MS is that they are really starting to force you to upgrade your software more and more often. I would like to be able to put together a system and not have to slowly upgrade it, but rather: build it, use it, when it becomes not useful, toss it (or give it to someone else) not the MS way which is build it, use it, upgrade it, (repeat until machine is too slow to use) toss it.
I hate upgrading for no good reason. Being forced to upgrade software or hardware without getting new features is the pits.
I had a couple, the guy tried to make dinner on the bar-b-q and he started a fire which killed the wife. Funniest thing I've ever seen . I think that it was because the flowerbed caught on fire and she tried to put it out. Sad day for the sims.
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If you watch 2 hours of 60 minutes a week, then you should consider switching to just watching 120 minutes. It's like watching 2 episodes of 60minutes back to back, but it's about music.;)
Knowledge is something that the more you share it, the more valuable it becomes. Now I'm the first to admit that movies and music don't exactly qualify for knowledge all the time. However, you are not depriving anyone of anything real by copying a movie. Only potential sales are reduced, which is real enough in our economy today.
All the things that we copy, movies, music, video games. They all were made with one thing in mind, to make money by selling a license to use them. But is it right to let these people earn money as long as they can off of one invention?
And why shouldn't MySQL be able to eventually do these things? For the same reasons that MySQL shouldn't also implement every feature that anyone asks for. It's not that DB. MySQL is a good db, but it cannot be everything to everyone. If you really want a feature, then just implement it, that's what open source is for. Fork the source and make your own branch. Of course most people would rather just sit back and be back seat coders (managers;)
On one hand I totatly agree with you that people just basically want to get stuff for free and all these people just want their copyrighted material for free.
On the other hand, it's way to hard to get this material in any other fashion. When talking about a 16K video game from 15-20 years ago, I mean how in the world are most people going to be able to play these games? Nobody is making these machines anymore, you have to find 2nd hand shops and hope that they have what you want, most of the time they don't.
It is not legal in the slightest to distribute, or play these games with emulators since copying them is very hard to justify. However, Video games are a part of modern pop culture, here today, gone tommorow fad like trends. All games have followed this pattern, with the exception of a few (Ms. Pac man, Galaga come to mind) Most games from more then ten years ago are gone, nobody is willing to sell them anymore. Where do I go to buy a new copy of Mr.Do, the Last Ninja, Way of the flying fist, River Raid, keystone cops (sp), or a hundred other games? The timeless games get remade for new systems (GBA) and the crappy ones get rolled into the next generation of pop culture video games. Does it hurt publishers of video games when you copy a ten+ year old video game, yeah a little. It's small enough to put it in a grey area since so few people actually care.
MS never had a Java 1.2 vm, the farthest it got was 1.1.8. They never supported swing, Collections, and a bunch of stuff that has been standard for years.
Nobody used the MS extentions to the JVM. The extensions were not that good, don't go kidding yourself, the only really good extension was the one that allowed you access to the DLLs in windows. It was kind neat to be able to do directX stuff from java, but really you wanted to do that stuff in C++ anyway.
If someone created a VM that was better and many people started writing programs to it's specific features, then Sun would have to do something about it. Though Sun does have a large case of NIH syndrome, and it shows with every API that they make part of the standard.
JavaScript is not object oriented at all. It's prototype based.
There is no inheritance at all, it's just copying values from a previous defination.
in JS you can declare Object, then declare Object that 'extends' the first one. All the engine is doing is copying all the values from the first Object to the second. You can't call super.method() because that doesn't exist. If you could call super.method, then there would be inheritance.
Methods are not overloadable and can take any number of parameters. Objects are wacky because the same name can point to both a function and a variable.
var o; o.callme = function ( a ) { alert ( a ) ; }; o.callme('a'); o.callme = ' a '; alert( a.callme);
This code is kind confusing, and as such is one reason that I don't like JS, because other people code like this.
So to sum up, JS is a neat language but its 'features' make it hard to create large applications with it.
The open source community can already do this. All that needs to be done it implement a JVM that is Open source. Like Kaffe, only current. The problem with this is that of course, nobody wants to do this since it's too easy to just use Sun's implementation of the JVM. That and Sun's implementation is actually very good.
The open source community would have to reimplement all the APIs that sun has created. Much of this has already been done. The open source community wouldn't control the language, but I bet that if some group created a JVM that was as good or better then the Sun one, then Sun would listen to the users of the OS JVM.
You can argue that the OS community will never 'control' the language and Sun can always just go and change it, but so what? If the implementation of the JVM is good, then what does it matter? The mono implementation of C# will not be exactly like the MS implementation, I bet they will have different bugs in the implementation, but it won't matter at the end of the day if their implementation is good.
Anyone can write the tools to run java code, the only limitation is that you can't actually call it 'Java' with out Sun's blessing.
But it sounds like you're taking this whole thing rather hard. Remember that finding a job in the 'real world' is more luck then skill. You just have to get lucky, the trick is to be prepared to not screw up your chance when it comes. Which is why you need an education, contacts and other things to make sure that you are going to be in the right place in the right time.
You're forgetting that the development kit is just that, a real kit. It includes software liscenses to programs and compilers that you cannot get legally without buying a developers kit. Also the developers kit includes a ps2 that has extra debugging features built into it. So yeah, as long as you are not stealing software to program on the ps2 (which is easy since the arch is supported by the gnu gcc), then yeah it's perfectly legal and legitimate.
Modding your ps2 should be perfectly legal, but copying games shouldn't be. I don't know 100% if modding your ps2 in america is legal anymore but as long as you are not copying games or movies then why should it be illegal? Being able to play games from other regions is a really neat feature, as some games are never released in America. Owning a ps2 from japan and playing games from japan isn't illegal, but for some reason modifying your american ps2 to play japanese games is? Seems kinda lame to me.
Everyone is excited about this but the only thing is that it's really not that important because you still have to have a compiler. Until other graphics card manufacturers make Cg compilers this won't really be a standard and still an nVidia solution.
Besides there are already C compilers that will turn your normal C code in to vector code. For PS2 and 3D-Now/SSE instructions. Check out codeplay for more info. Yes you have to pay for it. They don't have a compiler for the DirectX shading machine yet but this proves that they could. It's not like we have to invent a new language for every machine.
reflect the fact that the Itanium is a piece of crap.
It's too expensive a solution. There are better solutions, since they are not powerful enough to warrent the extra cost over a normal x86 server and cannot approach the power/flexibility of a multi proc server from Sun/IBM.
It's just a bad decision from a money perspective.
Now if devices also had drivers built into them that could be downloaded to your os, then I would be all set. How about that, you plug it in and as if by magic, the device installs itself? No drivers or anything.
- The file format is more flexible. Ogg Vorbis can be easily streamed. Perfect for Internet radios.
Do you actually know that this is so? I know that one of the goals of the MP3 design is streamed play in fact that's pretty much how it works so I would say that this claim is bogus. They are probably about the same, with OGG slightly better if you consider that it probably takes less bandwidth to get the same quality, but even then it's debatable.
I'm got the same problem, all my music is in MP3 because that's what was available at the time. I'm happy with it, but I do wish that I had one of those mp3 hard drives with a 20+ gb storage.
(OT) Is it only me, or would other people pay for a device that is slightly larger then a normal IDE HD and plays mp3s. The kind of device that you would run off your desk, but would still be portable. Then you could get 160 GB of storage, for movies as well.
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The thing that Intel did with the P4 is stupid though, a 2.0Ghz P4 may be faster then a 1.1 Ghz PIII, but is it almost twice as fast? I don't think so. I agree that they do know what they are doing to get more performance, but it seems like they prefer to always increase the MHz rating, which as all geeks know isn't always the way to get more performance out of a processor.
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Multi-chip? I hope that rumor is false because it seems to me that any multi-chip design is going to be fataly flawed. Maybe it's just some sort of memory controller, I dunno. Multi chips designs have traditionally been bad because the boards are harder to make and thus more expensive. Nvidia's board are already too expensive for me. I mean unless it's for your job, why would you spend $400 on a graphics card that only does output (no tv functions) when you can get a game console and 3-4 games for the same price? Guess that's just my decision.
He's not really talking about games.
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I think that he's saying that graphics cards can't yet do real time photorealistic rendering. When they can, that's when we need to stop developing faster boards and make them more intergrated.
Games will never need to be photorealistic to be fun, the two things are totatly unrelated. I think that most graphics in games today are wasted on the player anyway, I never realized how good looking many games were until I could watch instead of play them. GT3 is a good example, amazing to watch, fun to play but you really can't enjoy the graphics when you are playing it. Same with many games for the X-Box. Or in MGS2, all the time, I'm checking out the little radar in the corner of the screen to see where guys are, not seeing any of the awesome special effects that they spent so much time on.
Sure if you want to read that piece of MIT propaganda then sure, technology is good, me I'm sending this message to slashdot by humming into the Cat-5.
Everything on SNL is thrown together at the last minute. They only get one week to prepare the whole show which is why it sucks more often then not. It's hard to write new stuff in such a short time if the current stuff sucks. Maybe they did throw it in at the last minute because of that.
I want a device that I just PLUG STUFF IN and somehow it works like the box it came in said so. No install CD, no nothing, just plug in, like a normal pre-computer consumer device. Like a toaster, microwave or... gasp... Television.
There are 2 reasons that installing HW on linux is hard. 1. The manufactures don't support linux as well as windows. Since there is just more money in windows then in linux (so far). 2. The linux distributions are all different. Until there is a way to write an install script that will work on all OSes easily, this will be a factor to adopting linux. One HUGE advantage of windows is that the windows distribution is standard. Even a poorly written install program will work since you can just assume that files will be in certain places.
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Unless it involves solder, duct tape, resin, thermal vents, dremels or other implements of destruction, then it's not a hack.
Hack == soldering a fan to the MOBO to increase cooling ability, then cutting holes in the case to mount it. Or installing a switch that will change the clock rate.
They only see the dollar signs. It's not like they are 'braver' then the Open Source projects to call IE release quality. The OS guys are just more honest, instead of saying 'yes this software will solve all your problems, it never crashes, and runs really fast. We are sure that this software will work.' The OS guys say, 'this is what we've encountered, here's the performance metrics (if there are any) and here's the code, have fun, but we don't ensure this software to work in all cases.' MS charges an arm and a leg for the software that you can't even get a bug fixed on.
BTW, SourceForge is not where people go to release software into the wild, it's where people who have an itch to scratch in the software world go to try and get more people to help them. If you are good enough to write quality software by yourself you are not going to SourceForge.
Today, the only reason that I don't like MS is that they are really starting to force you to upgrade your software more and more often. I would like to be able to put together a system and not have to slowly upgrade it, but rather:
build it,
use it,
when it becomes not useful, toss it (or give it to someone else)
not the MS way which is
build it,
use it,
upgrade it, (repeat until machine is too slow to use)
toss it.
I hate upgrading for no good reason. Being forced to upgrade software or hardware without getting new features is the pits.
One nitpick, USB carries up to 500 mA of 5V electricity.
I had a couple, the guy tried to make dinner on the bar-b-q and he started a fire which killed the wife. Funniest thing I've ever seen . I think that it was because the flowerbed caught on fire and she tried to put it out. Sad day for the sims.
If you watch 2 hours of 60 minutes a week, then you should consider switching to just watching 120 minutes. It's like watching 2 episodes of 60minutes back to back, but it's about music. ;)
(Yes I probably should shut up now)
or his estate for the usage of e=mc ^ 2?
Knowledge is something that the more you share it, the more valuable it becomes. Now I'm the first to admit that movies and music don't exactly qualify for knowledge all the time. However, you are not depriving anyone of anything real by copying a movie. Only potential sales are reduced, which is real enough in our economy today.
All the things that we copy, movies, music, video games. They all were made with one thing in mind, to make money by selling a license to use them. But is it right to let these people earn money as long as they can off of one invention?
And why shouldn't MySQL be able to eventually do these things? ;)
For the same reasons that MySQL shouldn't also implement every feature that anyone asks for. It's not that DB. MySQL is a good db, but it cannot be everything to everyone. If you really want a feature, then just implement it, that's what open source is for. Fork the source and make your own branch. Of course most people would rather just sit back and be back seat coders (managers
On one hand I totatly agree with you that people just basically want to get stuff for free and all these people just want their copyrighted material for free.
On the other hand, it's way to hard to get this material in any other fashion. When talking about
a 16K video game from 15-20 years ago, I mean how in the world are most people going to be able to play these games? Nobody is making these machines anymore, you have to find 2nd hand shops and hope that they have what you want, most of the time they don't.
It is not legal in the slightest to distribute, or play these games with emulators since copying them is very hard to justify. However, Video games are a part of modern pop culture, here today, gone tommorow fad like trends. All games have followed this pattern, with the exception of a few (Ms. Pac man, Galaga come to mind) Most games from more then ten years ago are gone, nobody is willing to sell them anymore. Where do I go to buy a new copy of Mr.Do, the Last Ninja, Way of the flying fist, River Raid, keystone cops (sp), or a hundred other games? The timeless games get remade for new systems (GBA) and the crappy ones get rolled into the next generation of pop culture video games.
Does it hurt publishers of video games when you copy a ten+ year old video game, yeah a little. It's small enough to put it in a grey area since so few people actually care.
MS never had a Java 1.2 vm, the farthest it got was 1.1.8. They never supported swing, Collections, and a bunch of stuff that has been standard for years.
Nobody used the MS extentions to the JVM. The extensions were not that good, don't go kidding yourself, the only really good extension was the one that allowed you access to the DLLs in windows. It was kind neat to be able to do directX stuff from java, but really you wanted to do that stuff in C++ anyway.
If someone created a VM that was better and many people started writing programs to it's specific features, then Sun would have to do something about it. Though Sun does have a large case of NIH syndrome, and it shows with every API that they make part of the standard.
Which JavaScript language version is that from? I'm assuming that it's 2.0, not 1.2. Which browsers support it?
JavaScript is not object oriented at all. It's prototype based.
There is no inheritance at all, it's just copying values from a previous defination.
in JS you can declare Object, then declare Object that 'extends' the first one. All the engine is doing is copying all the values from the first Object to the second. You can't call super.method() because that doesn't exist. If you could call super.method, then there would be inheritance.
Methods are not overloadable and can take any number of parameters. Objects are wacky because the same name can point to both a function and a variable.
var o;
o.callme = function ( a ) { alert ( a ) ; };
o.callme('a');
o.callme = ' a ';
alert( a.callme);
This code is kind confusing, and as such is one reason that I don't like JS, because other people code like this.
So to sum up, JS is a neat language but its 'features' make it hard to create large applications with it.
The open source community can already do this. All that needs to be done it implement a JVM that is Open source. Like Kaffe, only current. The problem with this is that of course, nobody wants to do this since it's too easy to just use Sun's implementation of the JVM. That and Sun's implementation is actually very good.
The open source community would have to reimplement all the APIs that sun has created. Much of this has already been done. The open source community wouldn't control the language, but I bet that if some group created a JVM that was as good or better then the Sun one, then Sun would listen to the users of the OS JVM.
You can argue that the OS community will never 'control' the language and Sun can always just go and change it, but so what? If the implementation of the JVM is good, then what does it matter? The mono implementation of C# will not be exactly like the MS implementation, I bet they will have different bugs in the implementation, but it won't matter at the end of the day if their implementation is good.
Anyone can write the tools to run java code, the only limitation is that you can't actually call it 'Java' with out Sun's blessing.
But it sounds like you're taking this whole thing rather hard. Remember that finding a job in the 'real world' is more luck then skill. You just have to get lucky, the trick is to be prepared to not screw up your chance when it comes. Which is why you need an education, contacts and other things to make sure that you are going to be in the right place in the right time.
You're forgetting that the development kit is just that, a real kit. It includes software liscenses to programs and compilers that you cannot get legally without buying a developers kit. Also the developers kit includes a ps2 that has extra debugging features built into it. So yeah, as long as you are not stealing software to program on the ps2 (which is easy since the arch is supported by the gnu gcc), then yeah it's perfectly legal and legitimate.
Modding your ps2 should be perfectly legal, but copying games shouldn't be. I don't know 100% if modding your ps2 in america is legal anymore but as long as you are not copying games or movies then why should it be illegal? Being able to play games from other regions is a really neat feature, as some games are never released in America. Owning a ps2 from japan and playing games from japan isn't illegal, but for some reason modifying your american ps2 to play japanese games is? Seems kinda lame to me.
what about ping? or is that too 733t for you?
Everyone is excited about this but the only thing is that it's really not that important because you still have to have a compiler. Until other graphics card manufacturers make Cg compilers this won't really be a standard and still an nVidia solution.
Besides there are already C compilers that will turn your normal C code in to vector code. For PS2 and 3D-Now/SSE instructions. Check out codeplay for more info. Yes you have to pay for it. They don't have a compiler for the DirectX shading machine yet but this proves that they could. It's not like we have to invent a new language for every machine.
reflect the fact that the Itanium is a piece of crap.
It's too expensive a solution. There are better solutions, since they are not powerful enough to warrent the extra cost over a normal x86 server and cannot approach the power/flexibility of a multi proc server from Sun/IBM.
It's just a bad decision from a money perspective.
Now if devices also had drivers built into them that could be downloaded to your os, then I would be all set. How about that, you plug it in and as if by magic, the device installs itself? No drivers or anything.
- The file format is more flexible. Ogg Vorbis can be easily streamed. Perfect for Internet radios.
Do you actually know that this is so? I know that one of the goals of the MP3 design is streamed play in fact that's pretty much how it works so I would say that this claim is bogus. They are probably about the same, with OGG slightly better if you consider that it probably takes less bandwidth to get the same quality, but even then it's debatable.
I'm got the same problem, all my music is in MP3 because that's what was available at the time. I'm happy with it, but I do wish that I had one of those mp3 hard drives with a 20+ gb storage.
(OT) Is it only me, or would other people pay for a device that is slightly larger then a normal IDE HD and plays mp3s. The kind of device that you would run off your desk, but would still be portable. Then you could get 160 GB of storage, for movies as well.
The thing that Intel did with the P4 is stupid though, a 2.0Ghz P4 may be faster then a 1.1 Ghz PIII, but is it almost twice as fast? I don't think so.
I agree that they do know what they are doing to get more performance, but it seems like they prefer to always increase the MHz rating, which as all geeks know isn't always the way to get more performance out of a processor.
Multi-chip? I hope that rumor is false because it seems to me that any multi-chip design is going to be fataly flawed. Maybe it's just some sort of memory controller, I dunno. Multi chips designs have traditionally been bad because the boards are harder to make and thus more expensive. Nvidia's board are already too expensive for me. I mean unless it's for your job, why would you spend $400 on a graphics card that only does output (no tv functions) when you can get a game console and 3-4 games for the same price? Guess that's just my decision.
I think that he's saying that graphics cards can't yet do real time photorealistic rendering. When they can, that's when we need to stop developing faster boards and make them more intergrated.
Games will never need to be photorealistic to be fun, the two things are totatly unrelated. I think that most graphics in games today are wasted on the player anyway, I never realized how good looking many games were until I could watch instead of play them. GT3 is a good example, amazing to watch, fun to play but you really can't enjoy the graphics when you are playing it. Same with many games for the X-Box. Or in MGS2, all the time, I'm checking out the little radar in the corner of the screen to see where guys are, not seeing any of the awesome special effects that they spent so much time on.
Sure if you want to read that piece of MIT propaganda then sure, technology is good, me I'm sending this message to slashdot by humming into the Cat-5.
( man is work boring )
Everything on SNL is thrown together at the last minute. They only get one week to prepare the whole show which is why it sucks more often then not. It's hard to write new stuff in such a short time if the current stuff sucks. Maybe they did throw it in at the last minute because of that.
You actually WANT to use some crazy install CD?
I want a device that I just PLUG STUFF IN and somehow it works like the box it came in said so. No install CD, no nothing, just plug in, like a normal pre-computer consumer device. Like a toaster, microwave or... gasp... Television.
There are 2 reasons that installing HW on linux is hard.
1. The manufactures don't support linux as well as windows. Since there is just more money in windows then in linux (so far).
2. The linux distributions are all different. Until there is a way to write an install script that will work on all OSes easily, this will be a factor to adopting linux. One HUGE advantage of windows is that the windows distribution is standard. Even a poorly written install program will work since you can just assume that files will be in certain places.