ok buddy, learn something about the law. anyone can be indicted for war crimes. George Bush cannot be indicted for it in a US court and nothing requires the US to allow any person in it's country to stand trial in an international court.
did I say I like George bush? did I saw I don't think a right's violation happened? No. so you shouldnt' assume that is what I was saying. I think a full investigation of the known human right's abuses should be investigated and if it is found that any person ordered those abuses, that person should stand trial in either or both the ICC and the US federal courts.
This isn't nit picking about semantics; it's you responding with a source that ignores the original comment. As you said, no formal condemnation has occurred. On top of that, George Bush hasn't been indicted with anything. therefore, your sources don't respond to the challenge brought.
You are doing the opposite of what Fox News does. Rather than making it seem like everything George bush implies is Gospel truth, you are warping different sources to make them fit under formal condemnations or indictments.
as you did not provide a single source that bush or anyone in the US has been INDICTED for torture or human rights violations, no one needs to say anything about another country. you should, instead of posting a UN committee's recommendations, go back and read the original allegation and the response.
to quote: George W Bush for the multiple war crimes he's indited with to the International Crimial Court at the Haugue
the response asked for a single source for an indictment of George Bush. you have also failed to do that.
can you not feel the edge coming with your pinky finger? or is it actually engaged on one of those 17 button mice? if it's just a side button(like my mouse), then you should be able to feel the edge well before your laser/optical beam cross the edge
equivalently, you should get your head out of the clouds and actually go see how people use their computers.
The Mac is the worst system I could have ever imagined for doing work on in my job. It is in fact so bad, that if you were the one choosing my hardware and decided on a mac, I would either quit or ante up the money and buy a proper computer to do work on.
guess what? some people do something other than stay in the prepackaged apps that come with a vanilla OS install. at that point, Mac OSX is only as good as the software that decides to support it and it is lacking severely in some areas.
well, in teh US you generally get 3 - 5 times as many minutes so unless you generally get 3x as many incoming calls compared to outgoing, then you really shouldn't care.
texting is just not how most americans want to use a phone. Younger people, sure. But not older people. They just make a call. Unlike Japan, in the US people will be as loud and obnoxious as imaginable on a cell phone.
you're right, I did sit down with it and tried to do basic things I can do without trouble on any phone I've had in the last 8 years:
iPhone: I could browse the web as piss slow speeds, so slow in fact I wanted the text only view of the news website. Those adds hurt even more on EDGE. Granted, I could browse the web so it was still a plus if I wasn't in a rush.
tried to call a number I just called. Instead of just opening up my phone and hitting the call button twice, I had to navigate through several menus while looking at the phone( I think it was 5 buttons including the unlock). So about 1/5 the speed and I definitely couldn't do it while driving in any semi-safe manner.
tried sending a text message. was definitely slightly faster but required my full attention on the screen, even if I was just sending a 2 word text reply("sure" or " Im here") which I could do without looking
Can listen to music, same as my other cell phone
great organizer and syncs with my calendar on my computer. a minor plus as I generally remember my schedule but I can see how this prevents any forgetting, ever...
I like apple. I think they sometimes make good products. I think Jobs is a great salesman because he can make something old look new. I own a macbook(typing this on it now) but in a straight up usability test of the iPhone, i realized it's on par technologically with a touch screen remote my dad bought once. It allowed up to control everything with a digital screen that changed as we changed from vcr to cable to tv to dvd to soundsystem. The keys were labeled great and everything worked well. I was amazed and played iwht it for a few hours. Then I tried to channel surf and wanted to kill my self because I had to look down to find the channel button every couple minutes. this was my experience with the iPhone. My criticism has 0 to do with "features" and everything to do with how I use a phone. real life tests, it failed....
of course, I'm used to hearing excuses by apple appologists as to how either I'm the only person int eh world who feels this way about a phone or how I'm making up how hard it was. While pundits may judge by feature count, at least they don't judge by whether or not it has an apple logo on it....
simplify man, memorize your cell phone keypad(the "5" always has a raised dot, like the f or j on a keyboard)...
then jsut ask for actual high end zoom so you can read(if enough zoom would suffice and you could remember your letters...)
probably easier than coding morse into it and having it play the morse back...
or just something to read the text to you...
here is your problem, you are only comparing the text messaging services.
I'm in Japan now and hate the phone bills I get every month. Why? because I beleive a phone should be used for talking for 10 minutes rather than sending 50 or 100 texts in 2 hours to have a conversation. Do you know the comparable cost?
I have the cheapest talk plan and it cost me $2 for that phone call. The text messages cost about $1. Do you honestly beleive that americans will handle a plan where nights and weekends are 20 cents a minute and day time is 30? that is the cheapest available. I'm dropping 60 bucks a month to get that reduced rate(that 60 dollars, btw, involves 500 yen/mo general fee and 5500 yen of "credit" for my 30 yen/minute talking, 20 yen if it happens to be after 9 pm).
In the US, you may get raped on text messages(factor of 5 or so) but you are better off in talk plans by about a factor of 20. Now it sucks that this is the case, but don't ever think Japan is some haven for people who want cheap, reliable cell phone service.
Oh, and voice quality over the japanese networks is complete shit.
of course, I'm not tethered to my phone so it plays no role in determining were I live, but land lines here are also ridiculous. My girlfriend has it cheaper to call my US vonage number rather than call my cell phone from her landline!! And these are the cheapest plans out there!
do you have any proof what-so-ever that GM crops see their yields drop by 3/4 within 15 years or are you just talking out your ass? because it sure sounds like the latter.....
since this may get closed as a topic before I can get back to you, contact me on aim with Gordo^^^$$$3000 (ignore the obviously ignorable.....), and I'll ask my professors. I'm working abroad so I don't have my old course syllabus on hand...
actually, you are propogating another unproven myth, that suicide bombers are drawn from the ranks of the poor and uneducated/down trodden. An analysis of suicide bombers reveals most to be highly educated, from middle or upper middle class families(many are western educated).
this was research done by a speaker at my college last year, Davidson College. now I'm searching for his name, but he basically went through by hand every suicide bomber of the last 20 years because Hamas sends out leaflets of those who died and gives a background of them.
tunrs out the guy with a bomb strapped to him is more likely to be educated the guy he is blowing up.....
sorry but I searched for a few minutes and can't find the guy's name. He lectured in the spring of 2006....
problem with computers is you can calibrate all your settings to things you've already seen and run the code on and then it is no better than that. You're code at that point will throw out the "strangest" galaxy because you weren't able to calibrate it to that. Of course, you could always lower the threshold and get lots of galaxies that are put into the "maybe" category, at which point, people still have to go through them all......
all computer programs today are good at is looking at the past and hoping the future is a reliable reflection of it. it's why black box trading still can't come close to the success of a real trader. I'm not saying in 10 years it won't slowly get there, but it's always the "Go" v. Chess problem. Both are complex games to a person, but Go is infinitely more complex to a computer.
my mom has hundreds of phone numbers, and until the last 5 years, she has kept them all written down in an address book. Yeah, it was pretty common back in the past, but also people today with hundreds of phone numbers hardly call any of them(many they never contact again) so it's not comparable to actually having hundreds of friends you stay in regular contact with. So I doubt it's any more common even though people carry those numbers around.
useless info. I'm no server that keeps that kind of information. It's also a piece of info I never need to recall. It has never been something I need to remember and never will be.
On the other hand, the phone number you can be reached at is a very common piece of information you generally have to share. When you order pizza and they ask for your number, do you have to consult your address book?
What is the drawback of not committing basic info to memory? efficiency in a number of jobs. Do you look up the syntax for a For loop still(in your language of choice)? You can, so why care to remember it?
IIRC, it's the part of the brain that allows for connections, alot of it allows for very high speed connections (possibly multi-tasking, artistic conections, but not sure) compared to gray matter, which is centered on very specific computations.
as I've heard, the ratio doesn't reflect your abilities on general IQ tests, but can have a marked difference in the speciality in which you excel. you should probably research it though. I'm no neuroscientist/surgeon
and in all cases, unfortunately for science, the knowledge suffers twice. not only does it not expand, but the prorogation of bad information becomes deleterious. I think the pursuit of learning how people learn things differently is a huge field that needs to be explored. There is research that the current classroom environment(highly ordered, less energetic, less physical movement) is extremely beneficial to girls and harmful to boys. They have been trying different styles of teaching in NY and found marked improvements in boys.
It may be politically incorrect, but without knowing if there are fundamental differences in how the sexes can learn, we basically resign ourselves to hindering the learning of some over others.
you know that carry high/carry low is complete BS? I know, I grew up hearing it to and from a doctor no less. but it really is just an old wife's tale. I don't know why people hear these things. next you'll be telling me when a pregnant woman has mood swings, it must be a girl(thank god that isn't true because males would be really rare..)
just wondering, but have you actually read what the harvard president said? I find most people haven't. what he did say was much milder than anything like girls are stupider than boys and unfortunately, this backlash really kills an interesting line of study.
It was well known that men tend in much greater numbers towards genius and retardation. Part of his reasoning was that there may just be a smaller pool to draw from for the very top coupled with fundamental differences in brain development between the sexes. for example, it's now known women have far more white matter and far less gray matter than men do and some people beleive this man be a reason why men tend to excel in teh mathematics realm(due to the differences in how these areas of the brain approach problems). quick link: http://today.uci.edu/news/release_detail.asp?key=1 261
I say more research is needed, but people shouldn't be surprised if they find later on that they basically crushed a good man's reputation because of some idea of political correct bullshit. it's said common sense is just a set of biases we develop by the time we are 18; maybe we'll find one day that men and women are just built to process (and therefore excel) differently.
funny you say that. I remember reading in the times that the reason it generally goes with a positive slope to education is the pool of people willing to make that sacrifice are so numerous, the leaders naturally pick the smartest people to increase the chances of success.
close, they are a pretty religious country. in fact, there are 2 tiers of laws in the country, one that applies to nationals and one that applies to everyone else. for example, the nationals are forbidden to drink alcohol but anyone else can. As nationals are some anemic percentage of the population, it means there are tons of westerized services that are all over the country.
I don't know a number, but there are tons of foreign laborers. 50% are from india. the rest from a mish-mash of other countries. 71% of the total population is foreign born adn from my experience, most are there alone just earning money and sending it back home to their families. but that is the only thing here that I can't find a reference for.
um.... I guess you really don't get it do you? they are breaking the law!!! there are already laws in place that allow for secret wire tapping via a secret court. While it is shady, it was instituted by congress to allow the executive branch (what ever law enforcing leg) to get the legal permissions required before engaging in a search(btw, that is somehwere in that constitution, I know most people gloss over those first ten but they can be meaningful sometimes...).
you do not need to prove harm in order to have the courts protect to rights as guaranteed in the constitution. I guess you never really learned what the freedom means, but it means your rights are not superceded under any circumstances and if you are an american or in teh US, you have the right to privacy unless a court rules there is cause for invasion of your privacy. it has nothing to do with proving harm and it is the courts job to uphold this one sacred document my country used to be based on.
if you think harm has to be shown, they you are in for a world of hurt when you find out that by the time you are harmed by clanestine, illegal government programs it's probably too late. I know there is a poem out there and it reminds us to speak up for those being trespassed upon before there aren't any left to stand up for you.
forgive the typos, a bit too tired to be doing this now...
did you read the thread? I'm bashing the idiot that thinks a product reaching it's end of support cycle after some odd 10 years being comparable to a battery that will start dying on you after 2 years(assuming recharge every 2 days, average expectancy).
this is exceptionally stupid because when a product reaches it's end of lisence, it doens't become unusable, it merely loses support you were getting, whereas when a product runs out of battery charge capacity, it becomes worthless and must be replaced.
I'm not bashing the iPhone's battery life(with a full charge or in its life cycle, simply the comparison with a support contract life time..
I'm not sure, but if you are complaining about the variety because there is a single person out there that wants a turbo diesel with 2 doors, seating for 5, passanger vehicle with a very specific appearance(because I'm not sure what you mean by conservative, where I'm from, a ford truck would fill must of those) and a very tailored price range, sorry. Cars aren't custom made suits, get used to it.
In that instance, it is very easy to say that music is far more diverse. as there exists music out there for everyone.
btw, I'd bet volvo or VW makes a car that fits all your needs(though I'm not sure waht your definition is of affordable so....).
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ok buddy, learn something about the law. anyone can be indicted for war crimes. George Bush cannot be indicted for it in a US court and nothing requires the US to allow any person in it's country to stand trial in an international court.
did I say I like George bush? did I saw I don't think a right's violation happened? No. so you shouldnt' assume that is what I was saying. I think a full investigation of the known human right's abuses should be investigated and if it is found that any person ordered those abuses, that person should stand trial in either or both the ICC and the US federal courts.
This isn't nit picking about semantics; it's you responding with a source that ignores the original comment. As you said, no formal condemnation has occurred. On top of that, George Bush hasn't been indicted with anything. therefore, your sources don't respond to the challenge brought.
You are doing the opposite of what Fox News does. Rather than making it seem like everything George bush implies is Gospel truth, you are warping different sources to make them fit under formal condemnations or indictments.
as you did not provide a single source that bush or anyone in the US has been INDICTED for torture or human rights violations, no one needs to say anything about another country. you should, instead of posting a UN committee's recommendations, go back and read the original allegation and the response.
to quote: George W Bush for the multiple war crimes he's indited with to the International Crimial Court at the Haugue
the response asked for a single source for an indictment of George Bush. you have also failed to do that.
can you not feel the edge coming with your pinky finger? or is it actually engaged on one of those 17 button mice? if it's just a side button(like my mouse), then you should be able to feel the edge well before your laser/optical beam cross the edge
quality is just in the eye of the beholder. waht you mean to imply is what 90% consider a quality solution to the tasks at hand, you do not.
equivalently, you should get your head out of the clouds and actually go see how people use their computers.
The Mac is the worst system I could have ever imagined for doing work on in my job. It is in fact so bad, that if you were the one choosing my hardware and decided on a mac, I would either quit or ante up the money and buy a proper computer to do work on.
guess what? some people do something other than stay in the prepackaged apps that come with a vanilla OS install. at that point, Mac OSX is only as good as the software that decides to support it and it is lacking severely in some areas.
well, in teh US you generally get 3 - 5 times as many minutes so unless you generally get 3x as many incoming calls compared to outgoing, then you really shouldn't care.
texting is just not how most americans want to use a phone. Younger people, sure. But not older people. They just make a call. Unlike Japan, in the US people will be as loud and obnoxious as imaginable on a cell phone.
you're right, I did sit down with it and tried to do basic things I can do without trouble on any phone I've had in the last 8 years:
iPhone: I could browse the web as piss slow speeds, so slow in fact I wanted the text only view of the news website. Those adds hurt even more on EDGE. Granted, I could browse the web so it was still a plus if I wasn't in a rush.
tried to call a number I just called. Instead of just opening up my phone and hitting the call button twice, I had to navigate through several menus while looking at the phone( I think it was 5 buttons including the unlock). So about 1/5 the speed and I definitely couldn't do it while driving in any semi-safe manner.
tried sending a text message. was definitely slightly faster but required my full attention on the screen, even if I was just sending a 2 word text reply("sure" or " Im here") which I could do without looking
Can listen to music, same as my other cell phone
great organizer and syncs with my calendar on my computer. a minor plus as I generally remember my schedule but I can see how this prevents any forgetting, ever...
I like apple. I think they sometimes make good products. I think Jobs is a great salesman because he can make something old look new. I own a macbook(typing this on it now) but in a straight up usability test of the iPhone, i realized it's on par technologically with a touch screen remote my dad bought once. It allowed up to control everything with a digital screen that changed as we changed from vcr to cable to tv to dvd to soundsystem. The keys were labeled great and everything worked well. I was amazed and played iwht it for a few hours. Then I tried to channel surf and wanted to kill my self because I had to look down to find the channel button every couple minutes. this was my experience with the iPhone. My criticism has 0 to do with "features" and everything to do with how I use a phone. real life tests, it failed....
of course, I'm used to hearing excuses by apple appologists as to how either I'm the only person int eh world who feels this way about a phone or how I'm making up how hard it was. While pundits may judge by feature count, at least they don't judge by whether or not it has an apple logo on it....
simplify man, memorize your cell phone keypad(the "5" always has a raised dot, like the f or j on a keyboard)... then jsut ask for actual high end zoom so you can read(if enough zoom would suffice and you could remember your letters...) probably easier than coding morse into it and having it play the morse back... or just something to read the text to you...
here is your problem, you are only comparing the text messaging services.
I'm in Japan now and hate the phone bills I get every month. Why? because I beleive a phone should be used for talking for 10 minutes rather than sending 50 or 100 texts in 2 hours to have a conversation. Do you know the comparable cost?
I have the cheapest talk plan and it cost me $2 for that phone call. The text messages cost about $1. Do you honestly beleive that americans will handle a plan where nights and weekends are 20 cents a minute and day time is 30? that is the cheapest available. I'm dropping 60 bucks a month to get that reduced rate(that 60 dollars, btw, involves 500 yen/mo general fee and 5500 yen of "credit" for my 30 yen/minute talking, 20 yen if it happens to be after 9 pm).
In the US, you may get raped on text messages(factor of 5 or so) but you are better off in talk plans by about a factor of 20. Now it sucks that this is the case, but don't ever think Japan is some haven for people who want cheap, reliable cell phone service.
Oh, and voice quality over the japanese networks is complete shit.
of course, I'm not tethered to my phone so it plays no role in determining were I live, but land lines here are also ridiculous. My girlfriend has it cheaper to call my US vonage number rather than call my cell phone from her landline!! And these are the cheapest plans out there!
do you have any proof what-so-ever that GM crops see their yields drop by 3/4 within 15 years or are you just talking out your ass? because it sure sounds like the latter.....
since this may get closed as a topic before I can get back to you, contact me on aim with Gordo^^^$$$3000 (ignore the obviously ignorable.....), and I'll ask my professors. I'm working abroad so I don't have my old course syllabus on hand...
actually, you are propogating another unproven myth, that suicide bombers are drawn from the ranks of the poor and uneducated/down trodden. An analysis of suicide bombers reveals most to be highly educated, from middle or upper middle class families(many are western educated).
this was research done by a speaker at my college last year, Davidson College. now I'm searching for his name, but he basically went through by hand every suicide bomber of the last 20 years because Hamas sends out leaflets of those who died and gives a background of them.
tunrs out the guy with a bomb strapped to him is more likely to be educated the guy he is blowing up.....
sorry but I searched for a few minutes and can't find the guy's name. He lectured in the spring of 2006....
problem with computers is you can calibrate all your settings to things you've already seen and run the code on and then it is no better than that. You're code at that point will throw out the "strangest" galaxy because you weren't able to calibrate it to that. Of course, you could always lower the threshold and get lots of galaxies that are put into the "maybe" category, at which point, people still have to go through them all......
all computer programs today are good at is looking at the past and hoping the future is a reliable reflection of it. it's why black box trading still can't come close to the success of a real trader. I'm not saying in 10 years it won't slowly get there, but it's always the "Go" v. Chess problem. Both are complex games to a person, but Go is infinitely more complex to a computer.
my mom has hundreds of phone numbers, and until the last 5 years, she has kept them all written down in an address book. Yeah, it was pretty common back in the past, but also people today with hundreds of phone numbers hardly call any of them(many they never contact again) so it's not comparable to actually having hundreds of friends you stay in regular contact with. So I doubt it's any more common even though people carry those numbers around.
useless info. I'm no server that keeps that kind of information. It's also a piece of info I never need to recall. It has never been something I need to remember and never will be.
On the other hand, the phone number you can be reached at is a very common piece of information you generally have to share. When you order pizza and they ask for your number, do you have to consult your address book?
What is the drawback of not committing basic info to memory? efficiency in a number of jobs. Do you look up the syntax for a For loop still(in your language of choice)? You can, so why care to remember it?
IIRC, it's the part of the brain that allows for connections, alot of it allows for very high speed connections (possibly multi-tasking, artistic conections, but not sure) compared to gray matter, which is centered on very specific computations.
as I've heard, the ratio doesn't reflect your abilities on general IQ tests, but can have a marked difference in the speciality in which you excel. you should probably research it though. I'm no neuroscientist/surgeon
and in all cases, unfortunately for science, the knowledge suffers twice. not only does it not expand, but the prorogation of bad information becomes deleterious. I think the pursuit of learning how people learn things differently is a huge field that needs to be explored. There is research that the current classroom environment(highly ordered, less energetic, less physical movement) is extremely beneficial to girls and harmful to boys. They have been trying different styles of teaching in NY and found marked improvements in boys.
It may be politically incorrect, but without knowing if there are fundamental differences in how the sexes can learn, we basically resign ourselves to hindering the learning of some over others.
you know that carry high/carry low is complete BS? I know, I grew up hearing it to and from a doctor no less. but it really is just an old wife's tale. I don't know why people hear these things. next you'll be telling me when a pregnant woman has mood swings, it must be a girl(thank god that isn't true because males would be really rare..)
just wondering, but have you actually read what the harvard president said? I find most people haven't. what he did say was much milder than anything like girls are stupider than boys and unfortunately, this backlash really kills an interesting line of study.
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It was well known that men tend in much greater numbers towards genius and retardation. Part of his reasoning was that there may just be a smaller pool to draw from for the very top coupled with fundamental differences in brain development between the sexes. for example, it's now known women have far more white matter and far less gray matter than men do and some people beleive this man be a reason why men tend to excel in teh mathematics realm(due to the differences in how these areas of the brain approach problems). quick link: http://today.uci.edu/news/release_detail.asp?key=
I say more research is needed, but people shouldn't be surprised if they find later on that they basically crushed a good man's reputation because of some idea of political correct bullshit. it's said common sense is just a set of biases we develop by the time we are 18; maybe we'll find one day that men and women are just built to process (and therefore excel) differently.
funny you say that. I remember reading in the times that the reason it generally goes with a positive slope to education is the pool of people willing to make that sacrifice are so numerous, the leaders naturally pick the smartest people to increase the chances of success.
I thought they stopped by middle school to become more attractive to the popular guys?
close, they are a pretty religious country. in fact, there are 2 tiers of laws in the country, one that applies to nationals and one that applies to everyone else. for example, the nationals are forbidden to drink alcohol but anyone else can. As nationals are some anemic percentage of the population, it means there are tons of westerized services that are all over the country.
I don't know a number, but there are tons of foreign laborers. 50% are from india. the rest from a mish-mash of other countries. 71% of the total population is foreign born adn from my experience, most are there alone just earning money and sending it back home to their families. but that is the only thing here that I can't find a reference for.
um.... I guess you really don't get it do you? they are breaking the law!!! there are already laws in place that allow for secret wire tapping via a secret court. While it is shady, it was instituted by congress to allow the executive branch (what ever law enforcing leg) to get the legal permissions required before engaging in a search(btw, that is somehwere in that constitution, I know most people gloss over those first ten but they can be meaningful sometimes...).
you do not need to prove harm in order to have the courts protect to rights as guaranteed in the constitution. I guess you never really learned what the freedom means, but it means your rights are not superceded under any circumstances and if you are an american or in teh US, you have the right to privacy unless a court rules there is cause for invasion of your privacy. it has nothing to do with proving harm and it is the courts job to uphold this one sacred document my country used to be based on.
if you think harm has to be shown, they you are in for a world of hurt when you find out that by the time you are harmed by clanestine, illegal government programs it's probably too late. I know there is a poem out there and it reminds us to speak up for those being trespassed upon before there aren't any left to stand up for you.
forgive the typos, a bit too tired to be doing this now...
did you read the thread? I'm bashing the idiot that thinks a product reaching it's end of support cycle after some odd 10 years being comparable to a battery that will start dying on you after 2 years(assuming recharge every 2 days, average expectancy).
this is exceptionally stupid because when a product reaches it's end of lisence, it doens't become unusable, it merely loses support you were getting, whereas when a product runs out of battery charge capacity, it becomes worthless and must be replaced.
I'm not bashing the iPhone's battery life(with a full charge or in its life cycle, simply the comparison with a support contract life time..
I'm not sure, but if you are complaining about the variety because there is a single person out there that wants a turbo diesel with 2 doors, seating for 5, passanger vehicle with a very specific appearance(because I'm not sure what you mean by conservative, where I'm from, a ford truck would fill must of those) and a very tailored price range, sorry. Cars aren't custom made suits, get used to it.
In that instance, it is very easy to say that music is far more diverse. as there exists music out there for everyone.
btw, I'd bet volvo or VW makes a car that fits all your needs(though I'm not sure waht your definition is of affordable so....).