As all B5 fans know, truth is a tripple edged sword. Sun has right, but to a very limited extent. Let's think about it this way [what's coming is a somewhat pessimistic speculation, take it as such]. There are ten thousand people who contribute to a huge FOSS project. Then comes a company and says, hey people, you did a great job, we'll compensate you, and they pick some of these people based on some rules and give them something for their work. What will the others think, what will happen to them ? Will they think hey, we worked and they think our work isn't worth a dime ? So what will they do, stop contributing ? If so, who'll continue the work ? Those who've been "compensated", which pack would probably become smaller and smaller, in the end landing the whole development in the hands of the "compensators".
Offer prizes for some goals, make donations for larger and/or more important projects, or to people whose work is sympathetic to you, but when you start differentiating smaller groups of people based on blurry criteria I don't think you're working towards helping FOSS as a whole.
There is a need to work closely with those in the open-source community to share revenues, said Green. - share theirs or share yours ?:))
If someone comes up to you and says that your FOSS work is the result of boredom and having nothing else to do, just smack him and laugh in his face. Then ask him what creative work he has done outside his work hours. On a sidenote, let's suppose you're a scientist, who has let's say 2 hours a day when not doing paperwork or not working on fulfilling some grant's expectations (yes, you live on money too) or not working for someone else etc., then you could say you have two hours of boredom and everything you create during those 2 hours are a result of boredom, since you had no compulsory work to do during that time. Man, we ought to love boredom, if it results in things like the internet, the web2 buzzworld (yes, buzzworld, see, boredom leads to new words too) and so on.
I just keep thinking those people who came up with this boredom-idea article are the ones who are bored. More than we are.
I had a strange feeling about this "essay"... I mean most people's concern and problems are not with or related to copyright issues, but with patents, more precisely not even with patents but with the patent system that we have these days. Being against copyright basically would mean being against any form of acknowledging other people's creative efforts, which is not something I would like to see happen.
And there are ones that tell you that your idea sucks only to come around a few days later and tell you a revolutionary new idea that he'd come up with - yep, you're idea. Some do that intentionally, some are just too f*cked up to even remember who's idea that was in the first place.
So if this was the case, total power usage woul be lower for the task.
I don't think so. I mean in 2k,xp,2k3 the desktop rendering is the task of the cpu, still, it's around... negligible. In Vista it's far from negligible. That is if you do the same task, Vista would need more juice. Just my $0.02.
Many possible speedups might require layering violations
Stupid, again. If those speedups really require layering violations, than I don't want them. I gladly wait 30 seconds more if that means the design/layering remains intact. If a new layering scheme would be developed to incoroporate the speedup hacks in a sane fashion, that would be a different story. Until then, keep your "innovative" approaches to your own little projects.
I can understand that in certain cases "layering violations" are bad, but Linux kernel developers don't even seem to be willing to experiment or think outside the box at all
Such comments are just simply wierd. You people seem to think everybody is a genius but the linux kernel devs. They are the ones who can't think otherwise, they have the fault of following rigid rules, the are to be blamed that wonderful innovations don't follow the rules, they should think outside of the box and the rest don't even bother to try thinking inside the box. Damn, how could that happen, only the dumb devs became kernel devs ? Geez, get a grip.
So, you say Windows is so easy that when you never ever saw a Windows desktop before you just sit down and naturally know what is what and how it works and when something fails every message you get is meaningful and understandable ? Your ordinary grandma figure, how would she play with a first time seen Windows desktop ? You telling us MS has developed such a wonderful desktop environment that everybody just knows how to use it and never get confused ? You never got confused, ever ?
I am not interested in your philosophy - well, same here.
No wonder, I mean Aero might not use much CPU but it uses the GPU and surprise, your GPU runs with electricity too... Not much use for "better" power management if the GPU keeps draining power.
Really now, that guy needs to grow some balls. In his situation, "Heck yeah we copied Disney! What the hell are they gonna do about it? This is China!" would have been a more fitting response.
Well, they did in fact, since the motto says something about Disney being far away, which tells me something like fuck'em, what they're gona do ?:) Then telling that they didn't copy it sounds more like some ironic I-didn't-do-anything-Mum-it-just-broke-by-itself story:)
Uhm, let's think for a minute. Who would be in a worse position if you would close down China ? I mean, who does more exporting ? Like food, clothing, electronics, cars ? Just check some of your stuff, where are they made ? Then, let's think about China's internal economy. How many companies are there that only create and sell stuff inside China, and perform quite well ? How many of them would mind if they couldn't export ? Then, let's think of natural resources. And so on. China is a big country, with many people, and many resources, and a not so bad economy (let's put politics aside for now). And, additionaly, the US would suffer probably the most if embargos would be put in place, which they probably won't let happen. Which leads to
or even war.
War with China ? Now come on, let's be serious. Does anyone think a war with China is something _any_ country would realistically consider ? It would probably come very close to the top the list of foolest things in history.
These people are so friggin' stupid that my shoelace's intelligence tops theirs. Man, I got angry. Please people, come arrest us, since we made Doom2 maps of our highschool back in the days and we even played on it in multiplay with our fellow schoolmates. And yeah, we also have some hammers lying around, please feel free to take them.
If such ignorant fool jerks were to lead a school I wouldn't want me, my siblings, my relatives, or any human being I know, even those I hate, to have anything to do with that school and those people.
That is their freaking problem. I don't want to get evenr emotely close to any "developer" who doesn't want to know other languages and/or tools. This is one of the dumbest arguments a developer could say and for me it's totally unacceptable.
It's just a law for chrissakes. It doesn't help, it doesn't hinder. Under certain circumstances it holds, as every sane law would. Eventually someone would need to update it according to changes in the circumstances. Anyway, just a a reminder, Moore was talking about the number of transistors, which has more or less been OK up to now. But thing is, Moore didn't just invent a law out of thin air and the industry followed that rule [I hope you feel the stupidity in that], but he observed how the technology evolves and said it probably will keep going this road [i.e. the repetitive approx. doubling in transistor count]. He was no fortune teller, and as nobody else, he also couldn't foresee technological evolution. Thus, one day, inevitably, Moore's law will be history. Until that, please dumb a bag of bricks on everyone's head who asks whether such a law would hinder or help.
IT jobs that require workers to be on-call at all hours
Yeah, and you wonder about that, cause I don't. I would also run from such a job. Well, to be honest, I probably wouldn't, cause I wouldn't take such a job in the first place. Additionally, "IT jobs", could you be broader than that ?:P
IT is very much a culture and it consumes a lot of time
Ahm... ok, how very much interesting. Uhmm... and I thought dumbly very well-paing job worth doing consumes a lot of time. Is it a culture ? Well, if you insist on that...
Anyway, where's the point ? People _should_ try to find a job that best possibly suits their expectations. Yes, it's a somewhat utopian dream, but hey, if you don't even try... People don't take jobs for life these days, workforce is in constant change and flow. Maybe those who have jobs that don't consume a lot of time and have time to care, do care, but otherwise, what's the news in that ? Oh, it's because they talk about women ? Well, I also would like to work among more women, if that's the point, still, just because some women prefer more flexible work hours that doesn't make it something sensational.
IT aren't required to understand every little john doe program that these people can want to install so they don't have to support them
Geez, it's not about stupid apps, it's about users' data. If someone came to me a morning saying my hd was re-imaged because of this and that I'd tear his limbs off without much thinking. Yes, backups and stuff, alright, still, the limbs are gone:P
was stupid for opening an email with out knowing the source. If it appeared legit and it was just a plain word doc with not VB scripts then it's not all his/her fault
I'd say it was, since I consider everyone who leaves Word and Excel to run scripts automatically a security threat.
This argument - given not just by you, btw - is pretty flawed, since you guys basically say that because you don't look at the sources nobody else does, which is absolutely now true. A valid point is that there is the possibility to look at the source and quite a few people do that, and that's exactly the reason why you can use those open source software in the first place. Sou I think you'd better give more credit to these people and acknowledge the good property of FOSS software that permits us take it, improve it and distribute it for others to use it, and yeah, for free.
Geez, this is so freakin' stupid, I can smell it from the other side of the pond. It's a damn money game, if you want that dblclick so much, pay more, it's so easy ! Why come out in the light with "arguments" which smell so badly and rotten of piles of bullshit that it makes everyone and dog with at least as much brain as a chicken laugh out loud in pain ?
Of course they don't like the idea of Google taking something away from their nose. Of course they would want a bigger part of the online ad cake. Of course they would do anything to stop Google becoming more powerful in the area. And yet, instead of paying the price, they start antitrust accusations ? Now come on, this behavior is downright ridiculous. And of course they would want yahoo and co. on their part in this case, despite them knowing all too well what would happen to them if MS put their hands on a pig part of the online ad business. Right ?
It's easy to take away others' lunches while you're the big guy. Thing is, some things aren't meant to last forever. Go figure.
Should universities (or groups within universities) be allowed to hold patents
Well, if anyone should, then better the universities than companies. Apart from that, I would _not_ ever allow _anyone_ to hold _any_ patent in _any_ way related to human health and cure. Yes, I know what that would mean to "health" and drug companies.
Fight for something, instead of leaving the mess behind
No offence, but easy thing to say from where you stand. Besides, you think that everyone who wants to work in the US also wants to live there forever ? I highly doubt that. Besides, I wasn't talking about immigration, I was talking about legal work in the US. I feel very good in Europe, thankyouverymuch, and I'd like to continue living here. I also have the opportunity to travel a lot, but that's not common. Then, when I say I'd also like to work in the US for a while (since this is the only reasonable way to spend a longer time in another country unless you're filthy rich), you say I should stay put. Well, to how many of those tens of thousands of indian and chinese visa workers you tell the same, stay home and fix your country ? How many countries have _you_ fixed - oh, wait... ?
No, but they easily could ban the entire air company from their airport out of security reasons, like some airports can ban companies when they see that their overall quality doesn't reach a certain level.
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As all B5 fans know, truth is a tripple edged sword. Sun has right, but to a very limited extent. Let's think about it this way [what's coming is a somewhat pessimistic speculation, take it as such]. There are ten thousand people who contribute to a huge FOSS project. Then comes a company and says, hey people, you did a great job, we'll compensate you, and they pick some of these people based on some rules and give them something for their work. What will the others think, what will happen to them ? Will they think hey, we worked and they think our work isn't worth a dime ? So what will they do, stop contributing ? If so, who'll continue the work ? Those who've been "compensated", which pack would probably become smaller and smaller, in the end landing the whole development in the hands of the "compensators".
:))
Offer prizes for some goals, make donations for larger and/or more important projects, or to people whose work is sympathetic to you, but when you start differentiating smaller groups of people based on blurry criteria I don't think you're working towards helping FOSS as a whole.
There is a need to work closely with those in the open-source community to share revenues, said Green. - share theirs or share yours ?
If someone comes up to you and says that your FOSS work is the result of boredom and having nothing else to do, just smack him and laugh in his face. Then ask him what creative work he has done outside his work hours. On a sidenote, let's suppose you're a scientist, who has let's say 2 hours a day when not doing paperwork or not working on fulfilling some grant's expectations (yes, you live on money too) or not working for someone else etc., then you could say you have two hours of boredom and everything you create during those 2 hours are a result of boredom, since you had no compulsory work to do during that time. Man, we ought to love boredom, if it results in things like the internet, the web2 buzzworld (yes, buzzworld, see, boredom leads to new words too) and so on.
I just keep thinking those people who came up with this boredom-idea article are the ones who are bored. More than we are.
I mean, what else other than boredom
Necessity.
I had a strange feeling about this "essay"... I mean most people's concern and problems are not with or related to copyright issues, but with patents, more precisely not even with patents but with the patent system that we have these days. Being against copyright basically would mean being against any form of acknowledging other people's creative efforts, which is not something I would like to see happen.
They still tell you your idea sucks
And there are ones that tell you that your idea sucks only to come around a few days later and tell you a revolutionary new idea that he'd come up with - yep, you're idea. Some do that intentionally, some are just too f*cked up to even remember who's idea that was in the first place.
So if this was the case, total power usage woul be lower for the task.
I don't think so. I mean in 2k,xp,2k3 the desktop rendering is the task of the cpu, still, it's around... negligible. In Vista it's far from negligible. That is if you do the same task, Vista would need more juice. Just my $0.02.
Many possible speedups might require layering violations
Stupid, again. If those speedups really require layering violations, than I don't want them. I gladly wait 30 seconds more if that means the design/layering remains intact. If a new layering scheme would be developed to incoroporate the speedup hacks in a sane fashion, that would be a different story. Until then, keep your "innovative" approaches to your own little projects.
I can understand that in certain cases "layering violations" are bad, but Linux kernel developers don't even seem to be willing to experiment or think outside the box at all
Such comments are just simply wierd. You people seem to think everybody is a genius but the linux kernel devs. They are the ones who can't think otherwise, they have the fault of following rigid rules, the are to be blamed that wonderful innovations don't follow the rules, they should think outside of the box and the rest don't even bother to try thinking inside the box. Damn, how could that happen, only the dumb devs became kernel devs ? Geez, get a grip.
So, you say Windows is so easy that when you never ever saw a Windows desktop before you just sit down and naturally know what is what and how it works and when something fails every message you get is meaningful and understandable ? Your ordinary grandma figure, how would she play with a first time seen Windows desktop ? You telling us MS has developed such a wonderful desktop environment that everybody just knows how to use it and never get confused ? You never got confused, ever ?
I am not interested in your philosophy - well, same here.
is responsible for all of the current failings of Linux -- desktop adoption, user-friendliness, consumer software, and gaming
Well, and a Solaris/ZFS dev says that to a Linux dev ? Talking about thinking holistically...
No wonder, I mean Aero might not use much CPU but it uses the GPU and surprise, your GPU runs with electricity too... Not much use for "better" power management if the GPU keeps draining power.
Really now, that guy needs to grow some balls. In his situation, "Heck yeah we copied Disney! What the hell are they gonna do about it? This is China!" would have been a more fitting response.
:) Then telling that they didn't copy it sounds more like some ironic I-didn't-do-anything-Mum-it-just-broke-by-itself story :)
Well, they did in fact, since the motto says something about Disney being far away, which tells me something like fuck'em, what they're gona do ?
Consequences as in trade embargos...
Uhm, let's think for a minute. Who would be in a worse position if you would close down China ? I mean, who does more exporting ? Like food, clothing, electronics, cars ? Just check some of your stuff, where are they made ? Then, let's think about China's internal economy. How many companies are there that only create and sell stuff inside China, and perform quite well ? How many of them would mind if they couldn't export ? Then, let's think of natural resources. And so on. China is a big country, with many people, and many resources, and a not so bad economy (let's put politics aside for now). And, additionaly, the US would suffer probably the most if embargos would be put in place, which they probably won't let happen. Which leads to
or even war.
War with China ? Now come on, let's be serious. Does anyone think a war with China is something _any_ country would realistically consider ? It would probably come very close to the top the list of foolest things in history.
These people are so friggin' stupid that my shoelace's intelligence tops theirs. Man, I got angry. Please people, come arrest us, since we made Doom2 maps of our highschool back in the days and we even played on it in multiplay with our fellow schoolmates. And yeah, we also have some hammers lying around, please feel free to take them.
If such ignorant fool jerks were to lead a school I wouldn't want me, my siblings, my relatives, or any human being I know, even those I hate, to have anything to do with that school and those people.
but no .NET developer wants to learn
That is their freaking problem. I don't want to get evenr emotely close to any "developer" who doesn't want to know other languages and/or tools. This is one of the dumbest arguments a developer could say and for me it's totally unacceptable.
It's just a law for chrissakes. It doesn't help, it doesn't hinder. Under certain circumstances it holds, as every sane law would. Eventually someone would need to update it according to changes in the circumstances. Anyway, just a a reminder, Moore was talking about the number of transistors, which has more or less been OK up to now. But thing is, Moore didn't just invent a law out of thin air and the industry followed that rule [I hope you feel the stupidity in that], but he observed how the technology evolves and said it probably will keep going this road [i.e. the repetitive approx. doubling in transistor count]. He was no fortune teller, and as nobody else, he also couldn't foresee technological evolution. Thus, one day, inevitably, Moore's law will be history. Until that, please dumb a bag of bricks on everyone's head who asks whether such a law would hinder or help.
IT jobs that require workers to be on-call at all hours
:P
Yeah, and you wonder about that, cause I don't. I would also run from such a job. Well, to be honest, I probably wouldn't, cause I wouldn't take such a job in the first place. Additionally, "IT jobs", could you be broader than that ?
IT is very much a culture and it consumes a lot of time
Ahm... ok, how very much interesting. Uhmm... and I thought dumbly very well-paing job worth doing consumes a lot of time. Is it a culture ? Well, if you insist on that...
Anyway, where's the point ? People _should_ try to find a job that best possibly suits their expectations. Yes, it's a somewhat utopian dream, but hey, if you don't even try... People don't take jobs for life these days, workforce is in constant change and flow. Maybe those who have jobs that don't consume a lot of time and have time to care, do care, but otherwise, what's the news in that ? Oh, it's because they talk about women ? Well, I also would like to work among more women, if that's the point, still, just because some women prefer more flexible work hours that doesn't make it something sensational.
IT aren't required to understand every little john doe program that these people can want to install so they don't have to support them
:P
Geez, it's not about stupid apps, it's about users' data. If someone came to me a morning saying my hd was re-imaged because of this and that I'd tear his limbs off without much thinking. Yes, backups and stuff, alright, still, the limbs are gone
was stupid for opening an email with out knowing the source. If it appeared legit and it was just a plain word doc with not VB scripts then it's not all his/her fault
I'd say it was, since I consider everyone who leaves Word and Excel to run scripts automatically a security threat.
and I rarely have a look at the source code
This argument - given not just by you, btw - is pretty flawed, since you guys basically say that because you don't look at the sources nobody else does, which is absolutely now true. A valid point is that there is the possibility to look at the source and quite a few people do that, and that's exactly the reason why you can use those open source software in the first place. Sou I think you'd better give more credit to these people and acknowledge the good property of FOSS software that permits us take it, improve it and distribute it for others to use it, and yeah, for free.
An unbiased observer might wonder
:) ] observer would wonder these days. We all know all participants too well, sadly.
I think not even an unbiased [ thus non-existing
Microsoft contends...
Geez, this is so freakin' stupid, I can smell it from the other side of the pond. It's a damn money game, if you want that dblclick so much, pay more, it's so easy ! Why come out in the light with "arguments" which smell so badly and rotten of piles of bullshit that it makes everyone and dog with at least as much brain as a chicken laugh out loud in pain ?
Of course they don't like the idea of Google taking something away from their nose. Of course they would want a bigger part of the online ad cake. Of course they would do anything to stop Google becoming more powerful in the area. And yet, instead of paying the price, they start antitrust accusations ? Now come on, this behavior is downright ridiculous. And of course they would want yahoo and co. on their part in this case, despite them knowing all too well what would happen to them if MS put their hands on a pig part of the online ad business. Right ?
It's easy to take away others' lunches while you're the big guy. Thing is, some things aren't meant to last forever. Go figure.
Should universities (or groups within universities) be allowed to hold patents
Well, if anyone should, then better the universities than companies. Apart from that, I would _not_ ever allow _anyone_ to hold _any_ patent in _any_ way related to human health and cure. Yes, I know what that would mean to "health" and drug companies.
Fight for something, instead of leaving the mess behind
No offence, but easy thing to say from where you stand. Besides, you think that everyone who wants to work in the US also wants to live there forever ? I highly doubt that. Besides, I wasn't talking about immigration, I was talking about legal work in the US. I feel very good in Europe, thankyouverymuch, and I'd like to continue living here. I also have the opportunity to travel a lot, but that's not common. Then, when I say I'd also like to work in the US for a while (since this is the only reasonable way to spend a longer time in another country unless you're filthy rich), you say I should stay put. Well, to how many of those tens of thousands of indian and chinese visa workers you tell the same, stay home and fix your country ? How many countries have _you_ fixed - oh, wait... ?
No, but they easily could ban the entire air company from their airport out of security reasons, like some airports can ban companies when they see that their overall quality doesn't reach a certain level.