The US pays more primarily because of the ridiculous overhead in trying to account for every penny and bill everyone. It's lawyers and accountants, nothing more.
And what do you suppose their doc's spend on malpractice insurance vs. what ours spend?
Are you saying US doctors are completely incompetent? Put that with your attitude that the US is incapable of running a cost effective medical system and you seem to have a pretty low opinion of Americans.
So Obama's solution is to mandate that I must do business with them or else?
That's not what the bill says at all. If you currently have private or company insurance, nothing about this bill will change that.
Those "ridiculous costs" are driven by a number of factors few of which are addressed by the reform legislation. Does the legislation do anything to end the practice of relying on insurance for routine expenses? Such practices shield consumers from the true cost of their care and encourage over consumption of medical services. The reform legislation does nothing to address this issue
A non-issue because it is demonstrably untrue. In Canada, you never pay, nor ever see a bill. Yet the costs are significantly lower than the US.
Of course it was never the intention of the Democrats to fix any of the underlying issues with our system. Their overriding concern was to create a new entitlement program.
Conservative bullshit
In fact their "reform" will increase costs and take away what little free choice remains in the American medical system.
Again, how is this more expensive? If every other country can provide free health care that is less expensive than the US, why cant the US implement a similar program?
The system is already broken and costs too much - the insurance companies are getting rich off of peoples health problems.
The US currently spends more per person (now $7500 per year) on heath care than any other country. And that includes about 15% of the country not getting even basic health care. Canada spends about $1000 less per person for equivalent care, and everyone is covered.
So I fail to see how adopting a system that the majority of the other countries in the world can implement cheaper than the US, will cost the US even more than the current ridiculous costs. Unless you are somehow saying Americans are completely incompetent.
Well if the US tried to adopt a good working system like Canada, Republicans heads would actually explode.
Yes this system is guaranteed to be flawed because of partisan politics - everyone is out to protect their own interests. But it is a necessary step and hopefully all of this 'its evil socialist nazi' nonsense will be ignored, and the true issues will be addressed.
No but at least they make an attempt to check their facts. Fox is notorious for outright lies in their broadcasts, solely to create controversy and ratings.
That would explain why the Democrats used the committee system to muzzle GOP health care reform ideas while claiming that they were the "Party of No" and uninterested in compromise.
The GOP heath care reform ideas were nothing less than an attempt to kill the bill, not modify it. This was stated publicly by the GOP leaders.
Tenth amendment. If a state wanted to pass its own law to supersede the federal one, then they have the right to go ahead. The entire program is optional, so it is not forcing anyone to do anything. So there is no violation of the Tenth Amendment whatsoever.
Also, you are confusing 'socialism' with 'social program'
Socialism definition: "Socialism refers to the various theories of economic organization which advocate either public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources." I dont see how this has anything to do with heath care reform.
Wow thats a great attitude. Lets completely deregulate everything. If I wanted to make my own nuclear power source and run it without shielding and bury the waste in the backyard, that would be ok with you. Genius.
Thats good that you dont listen to Fox. Because Roger Ailes (chief of Fox news) has publicly stated that he's not interested in accuracy, only ratings. This results in things like with the heath care debate, where Fox creates the controversy to create a story for ratings.
My access goes to their server presenting what was read. The meter itself is on their own proprietary wireless network and not accessible from the web directly (thankfully).
Is the police force socialism too? Or the justice system? Firefighters? All funded by taxpayers for the 'public good'. Same thing in your eyes apparently.
Regulation should be a last resort. The last thing I want is the government interfering with my right to make a living. And what I do on my own time is my own business.
But regulation is a set of rules, and are there for safety. Utilities, nuclear, medical, all have the ability to kill someone if standards are not maintained. Regulation should exist in these areas. What part of that don't you agree with?
And if you think heath care which is a social program, and socialism is the same thing, then you dont know the meanings of the words. Probably because you watch too much Fox news.
So lets say my car has an electrical fault so the headlights wont come on. The evil government nazis don't like my light deficient car and are trying to force me to get it fixed, but I just think my car is 'special' and I love it just the way it is. It's my car and I think I should have the right to say what procedures get done on it.
Furthermore, since my car has a handicap, I want more support from the government. All streetlights in town should be brightened to compensate for my cars lack of headlights, and since I drive in the countryside at night where there are no lights, the streetlights should be extended everywhere my car regularly goes.
If you pull enough power to unbalance a single phase, the utility company will probably install a three phase. I've heard of high end homes that have electric heated hottub and pool, electric heat to cover 400-500 sq ft, and even electric heated driveways to melt the snow. I don't know if they have three phase, but from the utility guys I know, they end up with their own pad transformer - the kind normally reserved for a residential block or small mall.
Sure they had European patents. The European manufacturers simply ignored them however (they did not license them). Thats why they came out ahead.
Pharmaceuticals. The existence of generic drug manufacturers does not mean the removal of R&D by the big guys. It just means cheaper drugs for everyone else.
I repeat my statement. Try and point out a single example of how a patent actually increased innovation. Because I can keep coming up with hundreds of examples where it does not.
Scrap the system. It benefits no one except the lawyers.
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The US pays more primarily because of the ridiculous overhead in trying to account for every penny and bill everyone. It's lawyers and accountants, nothing more.
And what do you suppose their doc's spend on malpractice insurance vs. what ours spend?
Are you saying US doctors are completely incompetent? Put that with your attitude that the US is incapable of running a cost effective medical system and you seem to have a pretty low opinion of Americans.
What do they pay for prescription drugs in Canada?
About half of what the US pays
How much do their Doctors make?
For the most part, very similar to US doctors.
What does their tort system look like?
Tort is an aspect, but has very little to do with medical expenses overall.
So Obama's solution is to mandate that I must do business with them or else?
That's not what the bill says at all. If you currently have private or company insurance, nothing about this bill will change that.
Those "ridiculous costs" are driven by a number of factors few of which are addressed by the reform legislation. Does the legislation do anything to end the practice of relying on insurance for routine expenses? Such practices shield consumers from the true cost of their care and encourage over consumption of medical services. The reform legislation does nothing to address this issue
A non-issue because it is demonstrably untrue. In Canada, you never pay, nor ever see a bill. Yet the costs are significantly lower than the US.
Of course it was never the intention of the Democrats to fix any of the underlying issues with our system. Their overriding concern was to create a new entitlement program.
Conservative bullshit
In fact their "reform" will increase costs and take away what little free choice remains in the American medical system.
Again, how is this more expensive? If every other country can provide free health care that is less expensive than the US, why cant the US implement a similar program?
The system is already broken and costs too much - the insurance companies are getting rich off of peoples health problems.
The US currently spends more per person (now $7500 per year) on heath care than any other country. And that includes about 15% of the country not getting even basic health care. Canada spends about $1000 less per person for equivalent care, and everyone is covered.
So I fail to see how adopting a system that the majority of the other countries in the world can implement cheaper than the US, will cost the US even more than the current ridiculous costs. Unless you are somehow saying Americans are completely incompetent.
Well if the US tried to adopt a good working system like Canada, Republicans heads would actually explode.
Yes this system is guaranteed to be flawed because of partisan politics - everyone is out to protect their own interests. But it is a necessary step and hopefully all of this 'its evil socialist nazi' nonsense will be ignored, and the true issues will be addressed.
He hasn't made any points worth addressing.
No but at least they make an attempt to check their facts. Fox is notorious for outright lies in their broadcasts, solely to create controversy and ratings.
That would explain why the Democrats used the committee system to muzzle GOP health care reform ideas while claiming that they were the "Party of No" and uninterested in compromise.
The GOP heath care reform ideas were nothing less than an attempt to kill the bill, not modify it. This was stated publicly by the GOP leaders.
Tenth amendment. If a state wanted to pass its own law to supersede the federal one, then they have the right to go ahead. The entire program is optional, so it is not forcing anyone to do anything. So there is no violation of the Tenth Amendment whatsoever.
Also, you are confusing 'socialism' with 'social program'
Socialism definition: "Socialism refers to the various theories of economic organization which advocate either public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources." I dont see how this has anything to do with heath care reform.
Wow thats a great attitude. Lets completely deregulate everything. If I wanted to make my own nuclear power source and run it without shielding and bury the waste in the backyard, that would be ok with you. Genius.
Thats good that you dont listen to Fox. Because Roger Ailes (chief of Fox news) has publicly stated that he's not interested in accuracy, only ratings. This results in things like with the heath care debate, where Fox creates the controversy to create a story for ratings.
My access goes to their server presenting what was read. The meter itself is on their own proprietary wireless network and not accessible from the web directly (thankfully).
One of the strategies of someone who is about to lose an argument is to avoid the real issue by attacking the presenter on unrelated issues.
So clearly you don't know the meanings of the words, and think they are equivalent. Must be the Fox news / fundamentalist education.
Is the police force socialism too? Or the justice system? Firefighters? All funded by taxpayers for the 'public good'. Same thing in your eyes apparently.
Regulation should be a last resort. The last thing I want is the government interfering with my right to make a living. And what I do on my own time is my own business.
But regulation is a set of rules, and are there for safety. Utilities, nuclear, medical, all have the ability to kill someone if standards are not maintained. Regulation should exist in these areas. What part of that don't you agree with?
And if you think heath care which is a social program, and socialism is the same thing, then you dont know the meanings of the words. Probably because you watch too much Fox news.
What this post needs is a car analogy.
So lets say my car has an electrical fault so the headlights wont come on. The evil government nazis don't like my light deficient car and are trying to force me to get it fixed, but I just think my car is 'special' and I love it just the way it is. It's my car and I think I should have the right to say what procedures get done on it.
Furthermore, since my car has a handicap, I want more support from the government. All streetlights in town should be brightened to compensate for my cars lack of headlights, and since I drive in the countryside at night where there are no lights, the streetlights should be extended everywhere my car regularly goes.
My utility company gave me web access to my smartmeter, so I can check my daily consumption whenever I want, just like they can.
Is that the capability you are looking for?
It's heavily regulated for a reason (essential service, safety, etc) just like medicine and nuclear. Some things should be regulated.
In fact if it wasn't regulated, more screwups like this would happen.
And what about OpenGL? It's completely useless without OpenGL support.
Just like publishers don't make any money off of libraries.
This lawsuit is silly. It's like suing the library that you didn't get the free bookmark that the bookstores hand out.
No is means cheaper drugs. What part of that dont you get?
Ummm no. The other SMS.
Agreed. I can't see this approach solving anything.
If you pull enough power to unbalance a single phase, the utility company will probably install a three phase. I've heard of high end homes that have electric heated hottub and pool, electric heat to cover 400-500 sq ft, and even electric heated driveways to melt the snow. I don't know if they have three phase, but from the utility guys I know, they end up with their own pad transformer - the kind normally reserved for a residential block or small mall.
Sure they had European patents. The European manufacturers simply ignored them however (they did not license them). Thats why they came out ahead.
Pharmaceuticals. The existence of generic drug manufacturers does not mean the removal of R&D by the big guys. It just means cheaper drugs for everyone else.
I repeat my statement. Try and point out a single example of how a patent actually increased innovation. Because I can keep coming up with hundreds of examples where it does not.
Scrap the system. It benefits no one except the lawyers.