I'm getting so tired with this nugget of "wisdom".
The problem people have with this is not with the content that was released or the fact that it was released all, what they are upset about is the fact that Russia set out to try to change the outcome of the US election through hacking and releasing any info they could find that would help a specific candidate.
Would it be cool if after 4 years of Trump messing with China, China started trying to hack the RNC to dig up their dirty laundry for all to see? I try not to say things like this because I do believe that people approach issues from all sort of different directions but honestly, how can any rational person think it's a good thing that a country that has gone out of its way to be adversarial to ourselves and the West has attempted to manipulate our elections in their favor?
Foreign interference in our elections, particularly as direct as this, is not okay under any standards.
That's a wonderfully specific statistic you've furnished there. Get back to me when you can explain why Red States enjoy lower standards of living and are a net drain on the federal government while it's the opposite for blue states.
California's economy is doing quite well right now as well. Unemployment is low and the state is taking in plenty of money. I dont know how you could look at any real amount of data and come to the conclusion that the country's most successful economy is "circling the drain" and I thus surmise you made that up to feel good about yourself.
I feel it is first important to establish I'm a Northern Californian liberal. While I'm from North of SF what's happening in Silicon Valley is effecting where I live and causing the same problems, albeit on a lesser scale. I also agree with many posters that the parent article is stupid in it's framing of people as homeless who are not.
With that said, I am so sick and tired of our Left wing leadership wanting to "perserve our communities". The scenarios described in the article arent acceptable even if they arent describing true homelessness as they are literally describing suburban ghettos. Working people suffer so property owners can enjoy some bygone fantasy of a community that now only serves the needs of the afluent. Silicon Valley should be all skyscrapers (thus increasing housing availability and reducing costs for potential home owners or renters) and it is only people who could care less about the working class that want to "perserve" an environment that is no longer sustainable without the oppression of those who sell them their food. With property values what they are erecting a 30 story building on any city block within 50 miles of Google or Apple headquarters would be massively profitable for the developer and if done in a widespread manner, would make housing far more affordable for all. It's only bullshit city planning that is standing in the way of solving the less afluents problems in these areas.
The Left failed to deliver for the Rust Belt and we got Trump. Heaven help us if California goes that direction and with our bullshit leadership it just might.
Being a star in the biggest movie franchise of the 20th century doesnt make you iconic? A generation or two worth of children grew up running around outside pretending to be characters from the movies and playing with the action figures. Shoot, the combined cultural impact of all of Angelina Jolie's movies doesnt even come close to the first star wars movie.
Here's a translation of an alt-right post for you since you asked.
"This person disagrees with my opinions so because I'm super sensitive I have to start name calling them rather than address what they are saying. Furthermore, my post is super devoid of any real thought because I use the same tired comments the rest of my clones use". "Why think for yourself when people have already done it for you"
Hey, how long is calling anyone they disagree with "snowflake" going to be a thing for alt-righters? I ask because it's already gotten pathetically boring. I guess that's why virtually every successful American comedian is a liberal.
It's stupid how some lone alt-righter who manages to come up with something even remotely original gets so pathetically parroted by the Alt-right.
In summary, you're a stupid parrot who clearly says what they are told to say.
And I'm enjoying all my Steam games that I have installed in Offline Mode which can be used as long as I'd like and playing a ton of games not available on GoG.
Don't get me wrong, I hate the fact that I HAVE to use their service for most recent games (the first time I bought a physical copy of a game and discovered the disc was just a Steam installer I was pissed) but at least all my installed games are still usable when their servers crash unlike Origin (which I do refuse to use)
I bet wearing that button makes you feel like you're wearing big boy pants. Look, it even has a curse word on it like real adults use. Everyone will take you seriously if you use big boy words like that. Either that or only idiots will respond to your idiocy and everyone else will just feel sorry for (what i assume is) a grown adult acting like a child.
Furthermore the rest of your post is retarded. "My local newspaper says Trump is bad so he's anti-establishment". Retarded. You're like a dumb 70's hippie trying to "freak out the squares". You don't even understand that you aren't rejecting the establishment at all. Elect a billionaire property developer that has used bankruptcy laws at least a half a dozen times to enhance his wealth? He is the establisent!
And "let's face it", if you cut out the numbers you dont like you can make numbers mean anything. Cutting California out of the vote is meaningless because it's part of the vote. You might as well say "if we cut out every liberal voter Trump won 100% of the vote!"
The only part here that bums me out is that you actually think you're an insiteful person with meaningful opinions and nothing that I say here will penetrate that. "We want an end to the status quo". How is that an agenda? Really, what's going to make America great again? Bring back all the manufacturing jobs? I've got news for you; that's impossible. If they have to pay America level wages then it's going to be robots doing most of the job and not people.
Or maybe "drain the swamp" will make America great again? We'll just have to wait and see what the cabinent comprised of industry insiders that Trump has put forth yields I suppose.
If the game still looked anything like what I played as a kid in the 90's it certainly needed a face lift but what were they doing going 3D? The screenshots dont look good at all, wouldnt some really nice pixel art have looked a ton better and been about the same amount of work to make?
What is wrong with a foreign power of any kind (let alone one that is not on friendly terms with us) seeking to sway the US election? Do you really think it's fine for our foreign political enemies to try to sway our vote in directions more favorable to them? I'm asking for confirmation because you're blowing my mind here.
Also, you wear buttons with slogans? Like a child does? I'm not entirely sure what a "black pipe" is either...
Russia, a country who has gone out of its way to not be our friend, certainly didnt start hacking DNC servers as a public service. If that were the case they would have been hacking both party's servers. They were hacking the DNC to find information to sway voters in a direction they wanted. Omitting that when discussing this is a pretty big omission.
No, I think Hillary wouldnt be appointing a cabinent that would seem to be a complete 180 from her campaign.
I'm basing that oppinion on the fact that she's a fairly mainstream Democrat in terms of ideology, much like Obama, and would thus make similiar appointments. Obama, love him or hate him, most certainly made appointment choices that were far most consistent to his campaign messages than what Trump is doing.
To answer your question the "Russia hacked the election" claims are being used figuratively as the issue people have is that a country we are not at all friends with appears to have specifically targeted one American political party to dig up dirt on and thus sway the election. They didnt literally hack the election but through hacking they sought to influence it.
Now is this figurative use of language clumsy and potentially misleading? Absolutly. I'm just answering your question here though.
"All of the infamous 17 agencies lie pretty much everytime they go public with anything political."
So when the FBI decided to publicly reopen the investigation into Hillary for a couple of days just before the election, thus immediately losing her several points in the polls, that was all lies too, right?
Left me with a great feeling seeing Hillary lose by less than 2% in Florida and most of the rust belt after that.
That sounds exactly like Trumps campaigning versus everything he's said since winning and who he has chosen to appoint to his cabinet and various other political positions.
"Because members thought that their vote would determine the favored candidate."
That doesnt make sense, how does a future vote effect who the DNC favors?
"It's well known that money spent directly translates to votes"
Having more money helps but more money most certainly does not equal winner. Plenty of candidates win with less money and really if Bernie couldnt beat a candidate as uninspiring as Clinton it certainly wasnt due to money as he had no shortage of his own to spend.
I'm so tired of hearing about the evil DNC "torpedoing Bernie Sanders' campaign" and such nonsense. Why on earth was anyone surprised a political party had a candidate they favored? Does anyone naively believe the RNC wasn't moving against Trump in the primaries? Is anyone naive enough to believe that this isnt what political parties do?
Furthermore, nothing the DNC did was anywhere near enough to sink Bernie. Clinton had the big name and a loyal following and Bernie failed to appeal to enough voters, particularly minorities. As some one voted for Bernie I was bummed to see him lose but I'm tired of hearing about this fake scandal. No laws were broken and all that happened was that a political party acted like a political party.
I just wish we could get people to stop writing checks at the supermarket!
A check transaction almost inevitably goes along the lines of, "Oh, you mean i have to pay!? Let me first find my checkbook and then spend forever filling out the check, almost all of which could have been done while waiting in line or while my groceries were being checked"
Not the end of the world of course but i do have better uses for my time than waiting in line.
If you know your history in regards to sanitation you'd know it wasnt until government spending stepped up that we started enjoying clean water and proper sewage treatment on any large scale. It's a big part of why child mortality rates are so terrible in third world countries where the government doesnt have the money for proper sanitation and why Westerners dont drink the water in these countries.
As for people mounting a resistance. nowadays there are people who have wealth beyond that of anyone in human history and major multinational corperations whose wealth excedes many existing countries. Couple that with modern military weaponry that the average person cant even approach and so long property rights. If your house is sitting on oil I find it hard to believe you'd be able to hold onto it. If enough people and money dont like your ethnicity, good luck surviving that.
If the "government bubble goes pop" it will be wealth ruling us and those controling it wont have any checks and balances or tradition of democratic participation to hinder what they want to do.
Let's forget all of the basic services government provides without which our lives would be shit.
With everyone living in a state of anarchy, how long do you think it would take for a few less moral people to collectivise (say by forming a government) and start taking what they want from everyone else. Maybe it's a major corperation that can put tanks on the ground and planes in the air. Whose going to stop them? Anarchy could never last because there's too much of an advantage in forming governments
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I'm getting so tired with this nugget of "wisdom".
The problem people have with this is not with the content that was released or the fact that it was released all, what they are upset about is the fact that Russia set out to try to change the outcome of the US election through hacking and releasing any info they could find that would help a specific candidate.
Would it be cool if after 4 years of Trump messing with China, China started trying to hack the RNC to dig up their dirty laundry for all to see? I try not to say things like this because I do believe that people approach issues from all sort of different directions but honestly, how can any rational person think it's a good thing that a country that has gone out of its way to be adversarial to ourselves and the West has attempted to manipulate our elections in their favor?
Foreign interference in our elections, particularly as direct as this, is not okay under any standards.
That's a wonderfully specific statistic you've furnished there. Get back to me when you can explain why Red States enjoy lower standards of living and are a net drain on the federal government while it's the opposite for blue states.
California's economy is doing quite well right now as well. Unemployment is low and the state is taking in plenty of money. I dont know how you could look at any real amount of data and come to the conclusion that the country's most successful economy is "circling the drain" and I thus surmise you made that up to feel good about yourself.
I feel it is first important to establish I'm a Northern Californian liberal. While I'm from North of SF what's happening in Silicon Valley is effecting where I live and causing the same problems, albeit on a lesser scale. I also agree with many posters that the parent article is stupid in it's framing of people as homeless who are not.
With that said, I am so sick and tired of our Left wing leadership wanting to "perserve our communities". The scenarios described in the article arent acceptable even if they arent describing true homelessness as they are literally describing suburban ghettos. Working people suffer so property owners can enjoy some bygone fantasy of a community that now only serves the needs of the afluent. Silicon Valley should be all skyscrapers (thus increasing housing availability and reducing costs for potential home owners or renters) and it is only people who could care less about the working class that want to "perserve" an environment that is no longer sustainable without the oppression of those who sell them their food. With property values what they are erecting a 30 story building on any city block within 50 miles of Google or Apple headquarters would be massively profitable for the developer and if done in a widespread manner, would make housing far more affordable for all. It's only bullshit city planning that is standing in the way of solving the less afluents problems in these areas.
The Left failed to deliver for the Rust Belt and we got Trump. Heaven help us if California goes that direction and with our bullshit leadership it just might.
Of course the dollar amounts are pointless as I feel it should have been pretty clear I was speaking in the context of cultural impact.
"A generation or two worth of children grew up..."
"Shoot, the combined cultural impact of..."
Being a star in the biggest movie franchise of the 20th century doesnt make you iconic? A generation or two worth of children grew up running around outside pretending to be characters from the movies and playing with the action figures. Shoot, the combined cultural impact of all of Angelina Jolie's movies doesnt even come close to the first star wars movie.
...and they are?
Here's a translation of an alt-right post for you since you asked.
"This person disagrees with my opinions so because I'm super sensitive I have to start name calling them rather than address what they are saying. Furthermore, my post is super devoid of any real thought because I use the same tired comments the rest of my clones use". "Why think for yourself when people have already done it for you"
Hey, how long is calling anyone they disagree with "snowflake" going to be a thing for alt-righters? I ask because it's already gotten pathetically boring. I guess that's why virtually every successful American comedian is a liberal.
It's stupid how some lone alt-righter who manages to come up with something even remotely original gets so pathetically parroted by the Alt-right.
In summary, you're a stupid parrot who clearly says what they are told to say.
And I'm enjoying all my Steam games that I have installed in Offline Mode which can be used as long as I'd like and playing a ton of games not available on GoG.
Don't get me wrong, I hate the fact that I HAVE to use their service for most recent games (the first time I bought a physical copy of a game and discovered the disc was just a Steam installer I was pissed) but at least all my installed games are still usable when their servers crash unlike Origin (which I do refuse to use)
I bet wearing that button makes you feel like you're wearing big boy pants. Look, it even has a curse word on it like real adults use. Everyone will take you seriously if you use big boy words like that. Either that or only idiots will respond to your idiocy and everyone else will just feel sorry for (what i assume is) a grown adult acting like a child.
Furthermore the rest of your post is retarded. "My local newspaper says Trump is bad so he's anti-establishment". Retarded. You're like a dumb 70's hippie trying to "freak out the squares". You don't even understand that you aren't rejecting the establishment at all. Elect a billionaire property developer that has used bankruptcy laws at least a half a dozen times to enhance his wealth? He is the establisent!
And "let's face it", if you cut out the numbers you dont like you can make numbers mean anything. Cutting California out of the vote is meaningless because it's part of the vote. You might as well say "if we cut out every liberal voter Trump won 100% of the vote!"
The only part here that bums me out is that you actually think you're an insiteful person with meaningful opinions and nothing that I say here will penetrate that. "We want an end to the status quo". How is that an agenda? Really, what's going to make America great again? Bring back all the manufacturing jobs? I've got news for you; that's impossible. If they have to pay America level wages then it's going to be robots doing most of the job and not people.
Or maybe "drain the swamp" will make America great again? We'll just have to wait and see what the cabinent comprised of industry insiders that Trump has put forth yields I suppose.
If the game still looked anything like what I played as a kid in the 90's it certainly needed a face lift but what were they doing going 3D? The screenshots dont look good at all, wouldnt some really nice pixel art have looked a ton better and been about the same amount of work to make?
What is wrong with a foreign power of any kind (let alone one that is not on friendly terms with us) seeking to sway the US election? Do you really think it's fine for our foreign political enemies to try to sway our vote in directions more favorable to them? I'm asking for confirmation because you're blowing my mind here.
Also, you wear buttons with slogans? Like a child does? I'm not entirely sure what a "black pipe" is either...
That's a very narrow way to put it.
Russia, a country who has gone out of its way to not be our friend, certainly didnt start hacking DNC servers as a public service. If that were the case they would have been hacking both party's servers. They were hacking the DNC to find information to sway voters in a direction they wanted. Omitting that when discussing this is a pretty big omission.
No, I think Hillary wouldnt be appointing a cabinent that would seem to be a complete 180 from her campaign.
I'm basing that oppinion on the fact that she's a fairly mainstream Democrat in terms of ideology, much like Obama, and would thus make similiar appointments. Obama, love him or hate him, most certainly made appointment choices that were far most consistent to his campaign messages than what Trump is doing.
To answer your question the "Russia hacked the election" claims are being used figuratively as the issue people have is that a country we are not at all friends with appears to have specifically targeted one American political party to dig up dirt on and thus sway the election. They didnt literally hack the election but through hacking they sought to influence it.
Now is this figurative use of language clumsy and potentially misleading? Absolutly. I'm just answering your question here though.
"All of the infamous 17 agencies lie pretty much everytime they go public with anything political."
So when the FBI decided to publicly reopen the investigation into Hillary for a couple of days just before the election, thus immediately losing her several points in the polls, that was all lies too, right?
Left me with a great feeling seeing Hillary lose by less than 2% in Florida and most of the rust belt after that.
That sounds exactly like Trumps campaigning versus everything he's said since winning and who he has chosen to appoint to his cabinet and various other political positions.
I think it's far safer to assume that after the terrible choices made during the Bush years that people just want to be done and over with the region.
Evil? Good lord, is this Lord of the Rings?
A political party favoring one candidate over another is not "evil" because it fails to meet any definition of the word.
"Because members thought that their vote would determine the favored candidate."
That doesnt make sense, how does a future vote effect who the DNC favors?
"It's well known that money spent directly translates to votes"
Having more money helps but more money most certainly does not equal winner. Plenty of candidates win with less money and really if Bernie couldnt beat a candidate as uninspiring as Clinton it certainly wasnt due to money as he had no shortage of his own to spend.
I'm so tired of hearing about the evil DNC "torpedoing Bernie Sanders' campaign" and such nonsense. Why on earth was anyone surprised a political party had a candidate they favored? Does anyone naively believe the RNC wasn't moving against Trump in the primaries? Is anyone naive enough to believe that this isnt what political parties do?
Furthermore, nothing the DNC did was anywhere near enough to sink Bernie. Clinton had the big name and a loyal following and Bernie failed to appeal to enough voters, particularly minorities. As some one voted for Bernie I was bummed to see him lose but I'm tired of hearing about this fake scandal. No laws were broken and all that happened was that a political party acted like a political party.
Never seen one that didnt around here. Most have a system setup that scans the check and then withdraws the money right that moment.
I just wish we could get people to stop writing checks at the supermarket!
A check transaction almost inevitably goes along the lines of, "Oh, you mean i have to pay!? Let me first find my checkbook and then spend forever filling out the check, almost all of which could have been done while waiting in line or while my groceries were being checked"
Not the end of the world of course but i do have better uses for my time than waiting in line.
If you know your history in regards to sanitation you'd know it wasnt until government spending stepped up that we started enjoying clean water and proper sewage treatment on any large scale. It's a big part of why child mortality rates are so terrible in third world countries where the government doesnt have the money for proper sanitation and why Westerners dont drink the water in these countries.
As for people mounting a resistance. nowadays there are people who have wealth beyond that of anyone in human history and major multinational corperations whose wealth excedes many existing countries. Couple that with modern military weaponry that the average person cant even approach and so long property rights. If your house is sitting on oil I find it hard to believe you'd be able to hold onto it. If enough people and money dont like your ethnicity, good luck surviving that.
If the "government bubble goes pop" it will be wealth ruling us and those controling it wont have any checks and balances or tradition of democratic participation to hinder what they want to do.
Let's forget all of the basic services government provides without which our lives would be shit.
With everyone living in a state of anarchy, how long do you think it would take for a few less moral people to collectivise (say by forming a government) and start taking what they want from everyone else. Maybe it's a major corperation that can put tanks on the ground and planes in the air. Whose going to stop them? Anarchy could never last because there's too much of an advantage in forming governments