Are they going to make office available as well? Google is already working on their own office live
Yeah but it will have to use normal ms office code in activex controls so it will be a disaster. If they used different technology people would just laugh at them for being wrong all this time.
On the contrary, it is negligence. Negligence in replacing outdated systems with newer, more secure ones.
I remember that in the early days here in.au the banks ran batch processing late at night and the ATM's often couldn't connect to verify account balances. The fallback position was that the ATM would just give out the money and the account would eventually go into debt.
I financed a (small) holiday by exploiting that bug.
But the ATM card I use today is exactly like the card I used 20 years ago. And the phone card I carry is probably more secure. It has a value of $5.
Exercising ones immune system, the keyboard has to be the heaviest load.
When I got my first job in the State Government I thought it was hilarious (being a fan of Douglas Adams) they we had telephone cleaners who came around once a month and disinfected the phones.
In those days you shared your phones so perhaps it made good sense. I won't make jokes about telephone cleaners again.
My understanding is that the landing gear is definitely one shot. It is powered by a spring which is compressed during the stacking process on the ground. I think the confusion is with the release mechanism. There is a reusable system (perhaps hydraulic) but the explosive bolts are a destructive backup. I think the explosive devices are wired to fire automatically if the gear does not go down when commanded.
After the last shuttle disaster there was some speculation that the gear may have accidently deployed during reentry. But this was disproved.
Most everything else the computer might do is recoverable
In general I agree with you on this. The best counter examples are during the launch, particularly with the timing of SRB ignition and SSME shutdown. Get those wrong and its all over very quickly.
Yes I wondered about how degraded modes are handled for this burn in the MRO. Presumably not doing the burn at all is the worst case because it can't be done later and all science goals will be lost. So if the MRO can't (for example) verify attitude perhaps it will go ahead and do the burn anyway.
Armstrong was advised to abort at one point, but chose to land the Eagle anyway.
I don't see that in the ALSJ. They got a quantity light but Armstrong had the vehicle on the ground within the required 60 seconds. And in any event the low quantity was a consequence of sloshing in the tanks and Armstrong could feel the fuel sloshing around by that time. He knew the gauge was wrong.
The Shuttle could be landed on automatic, but the engineers made an intentional decision to make the landing gear deployment a 100% manual process. The reason for this is that the landing gear cannot be stowed in flight once it is deployed
As a result if they have to abandon a shuttle in orbit there is absolutely no way to recover the vehicle. Sure the landing gear should have a manual arm switch (there will be a breaker for it anyway), and during a normal manual descent it could be armed 10 seconds before deployment, but there must be hundreds of things which the computers could break during the flight which would cause loss of the mission.
much cheaper and safer than manned (or wo-manned) spaceflight
Says who? Somebody who doesn't want to fly? Watching stuff on TV is always safer than actually going places but I will be stuffed if I am going to waste my life doing that.
Nobody is forcing you to go to mars. Don't project your fears on to other people.
They won't know with absolute certainty that everything is ok until the time has passed and the probe comes around the planet.
Its a pity they couldn't organise a relay. There are two spacecraft in mars orbit right now which can relay comms from the ground. You would think that with a few software changes and a bit of planning one of them would be able to at least record telemetry from the spacecraft as it did the burn.
Haven't orbital burns been computer controlled since the beginning human spaceflight.
There is always a mix of manual and automatic control. On apollo 11 Mike Collins manually shut down the SM main engine at the end of the trans earth injection burn, not because the system wasn't going to do it automatically but because it made sense to back up the automated system.
All the apollo lunar landings were flown manually for the last minute or so. I don't know if you include this. My recollection is that shuttle landings are generally flown manually. As is usual there may be a mix of manual and automatic control. A bit like the autopilot takes care of basic control but the pilot can retarget the landing point if he wants to.
the paging system is enough to drive one to insanity.
At my last desk I had a speaker directly above my head. The receptionist was in the habit of inhaling before speaking but sometimes she would inhale and change her mind...
Its a bit like DOS'ing me by leaving ports hanging.
Sorry I don't believe you. Living standards in western countries are now much higher than they were (say) 50 years ago.
What we do have now is professional management (as opposed to people rising up the ranks), and formal processes like ISO9001.
These "improvements" are great ways of optimising your sausage manufacture to minimise cost but they really kill your ability to cope with one off events.
There are other reasons as to why terror funding is hard to fight. One of them is our (USA) incompetence. We simply do not get it. You still hear folks wondering why an individual would offer himself as a sacrifice in suicide bombing.
Another reason is that terrorism as we know it is a really cheap thing to do. You hardly pay wages. The raw materials are readily available. Costs are so low that you can do most things with cash and stay under the noise threshold.
Small children are naturally scared of spiders, snakes and the like. This is no longer such an important criterion, so it is likely to wither.
Depends on where you live. A person I heard of found a tiger snake under their bed recently. This was inside a house in the western suburbs of Melbourne, Australia.
I wonder how many snakes you need to have in your house before you find one under your bed.
According to TFA he is going to be some sort of Home Missionary elder. He seems to be about 200 years too late. All the missionaries left years ago. At least I thought so...hope so.
Now I don't want to be rude but what we really do need here in Victoria, Australia is good software engineers and I can think right now of a spot for him a couple of cubes across from me where his knowledge of linux kernel internals could be put to good use.
Yes vms volume shadowing works really well, compared with the different techniques in use with *nix. I was involved with running the traffic management systems here in Victoria off vms clusters with various types of shadowing, both through decnet and scsi (dssi).
Somebody told me a story about a vms system hit during the Oklahoma City bombing. The other half of the cluster was on the other side of the city.
ODF will be administered in such a way that if you want to claim "OpenDocument compliant" on your product, you have to implement the standard fully and properly
Wasn't this the problem with Microsoft's open document standard? To comply with the license you had to have a full implementation, and (almost) no OSS product would be 100% compliant all the time.
They recently decided to pull out of Sweden too. Margins have become razor thin after voice prices fell to a few cents per minute (/$).
I moved my mobile phone accounts from Vodafone over to Optus here an Australia because they kept stuffing me around through their resellers. One reseller which I had an account through was being closed down by Vodafone and it became impossible for me to change my account.
The cheapest account they were offering me was $15/month. Optus had accounts at $5/month. It was an easy decision.
They keep trying to offer these deals where you pay $30/month and get (supposedly) more than $100 in calls but this just gives the impression to me that they are only interested in having phone mad teenagers as customers.
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Yeah but it will have to use normal ms office code in activex controls so it will be a disaster. If they used different technology people would just laugh at them for being wrong all this time.
I remember that in the early days here in .au the banks ran batch processing late at night and the ATM's often couldn't connect to verify account balances. The fallback position was that the ATM would just give out the money and the account would eventually go into debt.
I financed a (small) holiday by exploiting that bug.
But the ATM card I use today is exactly like the card I used 20 years ago. And the phone card I carry is probably more secure. It has a value of $5.
When I got my first job in the State Government I thought it was hilarious (being a fan of Douglas Adams) they we had telephone cleaners who came around once a month and disinfected the phones.
In those days you shared your phones so perhaps it made good sense. I won't make jokes about telephone cleaners again.
Agreed. I was replying to the posters point about risk.
I don't think NASA will do it, ever. Mars has no stategic value to the USA.
Branson, or his heirs may have a go one day.
My understanding is that the landing gear is definitely one shot. It is powered by a spring which is compressed during the stacking process on the ground. I think the confusion is with the release mechanism. There is a reusable system (perhaps hydraulic) but the explosive bolts are a destructive backup. I think the explosive devices are wired to fire automatically if the gear does not go down when commanded.
After the last shuttle disaster there was some speculation that the gear may have accidently deployed during reentry. But this was disproved.
In general I agree with you on this. The best counter examples are during the launch, particularly with the timing of SRB ignition and SSME shutdown. Get those wrong and its all over very quickly.
Yes I wondered about how degraded modes are handled for this burn in the MRO. Presumably not doing the burn at all is the worst case because it can't be done later and all science goals will be lost. So if the MRO can't (for example) verify attitude perhaps it will go ahead and do the burn anyway.
I don't see that in the ALSJ. They got a quantity light but Armstrong had the vehicle on the ground within the required 60 seconds. And in any event the low quantity was a consequence of sloshing in the tanks and Armstrong could feel the fuel sloshing around by that time. He knew the gauge was wrong.
The Shuttle could be landed on automatic, but the engineers made an intentional decision to make the landing gear deployment a 100% manual process. The reason for this is that the landing gear cannot be stowed in flight once it is deployedAs a result if they have to abandon a shuttle in orbit there is absolutely no way to recover the vehicle. Sure the landing gear should have a manual arm switch (there will be a breaker for it anyway), and during a normal manual descent it could be armed 10 seconds before deployment, but there must be hundreds of things which the computers could break during the flight which would cause loss of the mission.
Says who? Somebody who doesn't want to fly? Watching stuff on TV is always safer than actually going places but I will be stuffed if I am going to waste my life doing that.
Nobody is forcing you to go to mars. Don't project your fears on to other people.
Its a pity they couldn't organise a relay. There are two spacecraft in mars orbit right now which can relay comms from the ground. You would think that with a few software changes and a bit of planning one of them would be able to at least record telemetry from the spacecraft as it did the burn.
There is always a mix of manual and automatic control. On apollo 11 Mike Collins manually shut down the SM main engine at the end of the trans earth injection burn, not because the system wasn't going to do it automatically but because it made sense to back up the automated system.
All the apollo lunar landings were flown manually for the last minute or so. I don't know if you include this. My recollection is that shuttle landings are generally flown manually. As is usual there may be a mix of manual and automatic control. A bit like the autopilot takes care of basic control but the pilot can retarget the landing point if he wants to.
At my last desk I had a speaker directly above my head. The receptionist was in the habit of inhaling before speaking but sometimes she would inhale and change her mind...
Its a bit like DOS'ing me by leaving ports hanging.
Take it from me. DECUS in Australia was full of people who look exactly like Santa Claus.
Sorry I don't believe you. Living standards in western countries are now much higher than they were (say) 50 years ago.
What we do have now is professional management (as opposed to people rising up the ranks), and formal processes like ISO9001.
These "improvements" are great ways of optimising your sausage manufacture to minimise cost but they really kill your ability to cope with one off events.
Another reason is that terrorism as we know it is a really cheap thing to do. You hardly pay wages. The raw materials are readily available. Costs are so low that you can do most things with cash and stay under the noise threshold.
Yeah because nobody's trying.
Do you know something I don't? I too would like to see that happen.
Aren't we doing this anyway? My father is 24 years older than me. I am 37 years older than my son.
Thats 13 years in one generation.
Depends on where you live. A person I heard of found a tiger snake under their bed recently. This was inside a house in the western suburbs of Melbourne, Australia.
I wonder how many snakes you need to have in your house before you find one under your bed.
According to TFA he is going to be some sort of Home Missionary elder. He seems to be about 200 years too late. All the missionaries left years ago. At least I thought so...hope so.
Now I don't want to be rude but what we really do need here in Victoria, Australia is good software engineers and I can think right now of a spot for him a couple of cubes across from me where his knowledge of linux kernel internals could be put to good use.
Sorry to be the one to tell you this, but all your watts are heat.
Yes vms volume shadowing works really well, compared with the different techniques in use with *nix. I was involved with running the traffic management systems here in Victoria off vms clusters with various types of shadowing, both through decnet and scsi (dssi).
Somebody told me a story about a vms system hit during the Oklahoma City bombing. The other half of the cluster was on the other side of the city.
Wasn't this the problem with Microsoft's open document standard? To comply with the license you had to have a full implementation, and (almost) no OSS product would be 100% compliant all the time.
I moved my mobile phone accounts from Vodafone over to Optus here an Australia because they kept stuffing me around through their resellers. One reseller which I had an account through was being closed down by Vodafone and it became impossible for me to change my account.
The cheapest account they were offering me was $15/month. Optus had accounts at $5/month. It was an easy decision.
They keep trying to offer these deals where you pay $30/month and get (supposedly) more than $100 in calls but this just gives the impression to me that they are only interested in having phone mad teenagers as customers.