I'm hoping someone can save me from having to install multiple desktops merely to answer one simple question about desktop behavior.
When I use Windows, I dock the taskbar on the left of the screen (versus the default bottom), set the width to maximum, and the settings at AlwaysOnTop + AutoHide.
Benefits:
1. The taskbar consumes no screen space. And when I want to see it, I only need to slam the mouse-pointer full left to the screen border to make the taskbar appear, not requiring any precise mouse handling.
2. When I view the taskbar, instead of unlabeled icons or truncated titles (arrayed horizontally), I see amply-sized window titles (stacked vertically, 80+ characters wide).
Is there any Linux desktop environment which will allow me to replicate this configuration?
"British humor doesn't appeal to me.(But I used to LOVE Benny Hill)"
Inescapable conclusion: you must be one of those rare poor unfortunates, of whom it can truly be said that Monty Python humor is actually too *sophisticated* for you.
Doc Squidly, I'm sorry if I was in any way responsible for the melt-down from that anonymous poster. It was totally inappropriate.
As for my original post, I plead temporary inability to resist the temptation of scoring some karma points from an all-too-obvious opportunity for a joke.
"ministers went against the wishes of their nations in voting for Software Patent legislation"
And in other news, Microsoft's cash reserves have mysteriously dropped down to $51 billion . . .
We have a great package deal: -- Arabic-language-learning software -- one-way airfare -- software for writing your own Last Will & Testament -- titanium and carbon-fibre high-collar turtle-neck vest -- discount coupon for a burial-plot & coffin, sized for your current height from your heels to your collar-bone
"double is_computer_on_fire(void) Returns the temperature of the motherboard if the computer is currently on fire. If the computer isn't on fire, the function returns some other value."
is that manual for real?! and if it is, how does the caller distinguish between an on_fire value and "some other value"?
Yup, know the problem well. Except *real* puke, not furballs. Not infrequently, either. 21-inch Hitachi CRT. Which is why I always keep the top coated with paper towels. Much cheaper than LCD.;-)
"I have been known to ruin a keyboard with cheeto crumbs. And a pair of pants"
I undertand the part about Cheetos. But how were the *pants* involved in ruining the keyboard? Hmmm . . . never mind . . . I think I'd rather not know, after all . . .
ummm...I was being facetious. For some reason, imagining the sound of "Nätverk" just made me giggle, so I posted just because I was feeling goofy. I'd have to be a cretin not to realize what it meant. And if I'd sincerely wanted to put it through google, I could have just cut & pasted it -- just like I did for the post. (Not to mention that google often manages to satisfy such a search even if you omit the orthodox umlauts, tildes, cedillas and other diacritical marks.) mmmmmmmm . . . I guess you and I were both having an "off" moment.
'B*rk!'
"Nätverk & Kommunikation"
On your recommendation, I tried to find those titles on Google,
but I couldn't figure out how to put those funny dots over the vowels.:(
. . . someone said about IE vs. Linux. Let's pause a moment to regain our bearings.
The article was about an IE vulnerability. Someone responded by questioning the virtues of IE and recommending other browsers (for his/her parents), but still WITHIN the context of Win. I prefer *n*x variants (over Win) as much as the next person; but, in the context of this article, Linux is irrelevant, because there *is* no IE on Linux.
As I said before, there are times when I have no choice but to use Win; and, at those times, IE best fits my needs. When another Win-based browser can do the things I mentioned, I'll switch gleefully.
I'm browser-agnostic (actually, on principle I make MSFT my last-resort choice in all things). I'd love to switch to Opera (or any non-MSFT browser) which could do the things I need.
"not having used Firefox . . . find it hard to believe anything could be slower than IE" Well, ffox is (on Win). No performance complaints about Opera. I singled-out ffox about speed, because another responder had specifically touted it. (Mind you, I'm complaining about re-draw time, not page-fetch.)
"opera comes with a search option box for google, etc." Sorry, my point wasn't about being able to do searches, but rather generically about third-party toolbar features (e.g., next-up-url-path, highlight / find terms in page). A lot of toolbars never get ported to the other browsers (dammit).
"every time IE crashed for me, it took all it's windows with it". Yes, in earlier versions, unless you took steps (I did) to ensure that each browser window ran in its own process.
"Opera keeps history (what you mean by back traces I think)". Almost what I meant, the only difference being that each window has it's own history of how I arrived at the current page.
"you can arrange as desired inside Opera - much less task bar clutter". Yes, but I just don't happen to care for the MDI paradigm. When I want to switch windows, I prefer always having one place (taskbar) to go. And taskbar clutter isn't a problem, because my taskbar is docked left, max width, auto-hide, "always-on-top". I just have to carelessly slam my mouse max-left to make the taskbar appear, and single click -- no nav'ing menus, no fussy mouse-positioning, and no truncated/squished window titles. (I'm rather surprised that I've never seen anyone else who uses Win like this, because it's s-o-o-o much easier. Try it, it's slicker 'n sh*t.)
"I don't use webwasher as it costs $$". Check again. fwiw, I don't think it's worth paying. But after a 3-week trial, I gladly paid for Outpost and ditched ZA-Pro. (OAS, similar props for TrueImage.)
"you can just go add to bookmarks". Yes, but don't want to. I keep separate "ordinary" folders/dirs by subject or project, containing *any* type of pertinent file, be it txt, eml, url, etc. With IE, when I want to save a link, in one action I just drag the link from the page (or address bar) to the folder (e.g. the folder's open window, or the folder's icon on the desktop or on the quick-launch bar).
"Well, you must never have really RTFM with Opera then(probably Firefox either)." Mea culpa. OTOH, I didn't need to RTFM for IE, either, in order to figure out how to do these things. I'd already been using ffox (actually, Phoenix) for a while before trying Opera; since these simple (in IE) mouse-actions hadn't worked in ffox, I probably skipped trying some of them in Opera.
Finally, my prior post omitted another entire category of right-click thing-ies which work only on an IE page, e.g. (admittedly with possible *individual* exceptions): View Source, Document Tree, Links List, Backward Links, Open Frame In New (unframed) Window, etc.
Now there's an established precedent for other large databases to be non-discloseable, i.e. "No, Mr. Ashcroft, I can't give you {my list of '2600' subscribers} / {my ISP customers' DHCP logs} / {my library-card-holders' book-borrowing history} because it would crash my database.";-)
As for the responder who said od Ashcroft, "but I've had it with this guy": how can anything like this really surprise you by now? It's an anti-populace [sic] mentality that starts at the top and pervades throughout this President's administration. To paraphrase , "It's turd-els, all the way down." They no longer have even the decency to feign shame or embarassment at the lameness and transparency of their evasions. ("We don't need no stinkin' justifications!")
Another responder said, "the FOIA requestor isn't entitled to request the entire DB backup". Errmmm, why not? How is that different from having the right to request all the separate entries individually? It's a DB of FOREIGN LOBBYISTS, for pete's sake -- what could be in it that we shouldn't be allowed to see?
A suggestion for the original FOIA requestors: change the form of your request. IANAL, but I know of nothing in the FOI Act which bars requests for info which didn't exist until the day *after* the request is made. "OK, Mr Ashcroft, let's do this instead. Surely your people must be using this DB for something, right? OK, my request is, for the next week, whenever your people update or access the DB, I'd like a hard-copy. A screen-print will be fine, thank you. I'll even loan you a camera to capture the screen image. And btw, I'll be back each week with an identical request, until your DB is 'stable'."
"people who really honestly like IE and dislike FireFox... I don't see why, I'd think that from the lamans view they'd be identical"...../heresy: I use ffox, Opera & IE, and keep returning to IE. Why?
1. On Win (which I must still use sometimes), ffox is the slowest of the 3 (especially re-draw), even though I'm always on the latest release.
2. I can't get the other browsers to do the simplest, stupidest things I can do in IE, e.g.: drag/drop shortcuts between address-bar & folders, or File=>Send=>Shortcut To Desktop, or drag a link from a page to the address-bar (a sure-fire "use the same window, dammit"). I dunno, maybe I just didn't RTFM.
3. I make genuinely productive use of toolbars (e.g. Google) unavailable on other browsers.
4. I don't grok the excitement of tabbed windows. I much prefer being able to position pages independently in separate windows. And if one of those windows crashes or hangs, I don't lose the others (or their back-traces).
As for security, I do quite well with the combo of common sense, frequennt AV updates, SpyBot, AdAware, WebWasher, and very aggressive/paranoid firewall settings. (I love Agnitum Outpost, which lets me control cookies, ActiveX, JavaScript, etc. -- each *separately* -- on a per-domain basis.)/heresy
"there's nothing wrong with being able to find out who's been comitting crimes while using an internet connection"
1. But there's a lot wrong with forcing *me* to be deputized to do so. It's just like forcing a publisher to disclose a list of customers, or like blaming the bus driver for unwittingly transporting the bomber to the airport.
2. The issue of whether or not there's anything wrong with "being able to find out who's committing crimes" on the net, depends a LOT on which behaviors are currently defined as "crimes". At this moment, in the US, this distinction isn't trivial. In *my* value-system, there's a LOT wrong with cooperating in the prosecution of a DeCSS publisher, or of Dmitri Sklyarov, or of someone who violates the particular provisions of the "Patriot" Act which say that it's a crime even to detail one's participation in a legal challenge to the Act. ("Patriot Act gags ACLU court challenge to Patriot Act", http://newstandardnews.net/content/?action=show_it em&itemid=277).
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"I'm pretty sure you can set it to something you like."
Thanks!
"I don't think Windows gives you this much flexibility... Right?"
maybe in XP (which I've never used), but not in w2k.
I'm hoping someone can save me from having to install multiple desktops merely to answer one simple question about desktop behavior.
When I use Windows, I dock the taskbar on the left of the screen (versus the default bottom), set the width to maximum, and the settings at AlwaysOnTop + AutoHide.
Benefits:
1. The taskbar consumes no screen space. And when I want to see it, I only need to slam the mouse-pointer full left to the screen border to make the taskbar appear, not requiring any precise mouse handling.
2. When I view the taskbar, instead of unlabeled icons or truncated titles (arrayed horizontally), I see amply-sized window titles (stacked vertically, 80+ characters wide).
Is there any Linux desktop environment which will allow me to replicate this configuration?
Thanks.
. . . expended all that time and effort for nothing, trying for seven years after WW2 to "democratize" Japan.
Yes, he managed to "un-deify" the Emperor;
but, sixty years later, the Japanese people still exhibit a Hive Mind.
It's sad.
"British humor doesn't appeal to me.(But I used to LOVE Benny Hill)"
Inescapable conclusion: you must be one of those rare poor unfortunates, of whom it can truly be said that Monty Python humor is actually too *sophisticated* for you.
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http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=113781
Doc Squidly, I'm sorry if I was in any way responsible for the melt-down from that anonymous poster.
It was totally inappropriate.
As for my original post, I plead temporary inability to resist the temptation of scoring some karma points from an all-too-obvious opportunity for a joke.
. . . to anti-war protesters:
"America -- Love It Or Leave It".
If that's the society you want, have you considered North Korea?
"ministers went against the wishes of their nations in voting for Software Patent legislation" And in other news, Microsoft's cash reserves have mysteriously dropped down to $51 billion . . .
"I will be spending a year in the Middle East."
We have a great package deal:
-- Arabic-language-learning software
-- one-way airfare
-- software for writing your own Last Will & Testament
-- titanium and carbon-fibre high-collar turtle-neck vest
-- discount coupon for a burial-plot & coffin, sized for your current height from your heels to your collar-bone
"double is_computer_on_fire(void)
Returns the temperature of the motherboard if the computer is currently on fire. If the computer isn't on fire, the function returns some other value."
is that manual for real?!
and if it is, how does the caller distinguish between an on_fire value and "some other value"?
Yup, know the problem well. ;-)
Except *real* puke, not furballs. Not infrequently, either.
21-inch Hitachi CRT.
Which is why I always keep the top coated with paper towels.
Much cheaper than LCD.
if you really want corporate-class reliability, buy Seagate SCSI.
"I have been known to ruin a keyboard with cheeto crumbs. And a pair of pants"
I undertand the part about Cheetos.
But how were the *pants* involved in ruining the keyboard?
Hmmm . . . never mind . . . I think I'd rather not know, after all . . .
ummm...I was being facetious.
For some reason, imagining the sound of "Nätverk" just made me giggle, so I posted just because I was feeling goofy.
I'd have to be a cretin not to realize what it meant.
And if I'd sincerely wanted to put it through google, I could have just cut & pasted it -- just like I did for the post.
(Not to mention that google often manages to satisfy such a search even if you omit the orthodox umlauts, tildes, cedillas and other diacritical marks.)
mmmmmmmm . . . I guess you and I were both having an "off" moment.
"I used to read Counterpunch but got tired of Cockburn"
Next time, try not rolling-up the magazine so tightly.
Not even Sunday morning with Stephan Steponawfulus?
"I read Cosmo... and I'm a guy....I have three wives and 8 children"
No more racy Cosmo for *you*!
Or at least, not until you start reading
the "Things Every Girl Should Know" articles.
"Usually written by foreigners and pretty difficult to read, from a 'grasp of the English language' standpoint"
"foreigners" -- and that would be referring to?
Aussies?
Scots?
Boers?
Alabamians?
New Jersey?
East-Enders?
Yorkshire?
'B*rk!' "Nätverk & Kommunikation" On your recommendation, I tried to find those titles on Google, but I couldn't figure out how to put those funny dots over the vowels. :(
I do.
In January, it's Miss January, in February it's Miss February, etc.
For greater variety, I occasionally go for things like "Girls Of The EFF", "Girls Of Mozilla", "Girls Who Knew Linus", . . .
. . . someone said about IE vs. Linux.
Let's pause a moment to regain our bearings.
The article was about an IE vulnerability.
Someone responded by questioning the virtues of IE and recommending other browsers (for his/her parents), but still WITHIN the context of Win.
I prefer *n*x variants (over Win) as much as the next person; but, in the context of this article, Linux is irrelevant, because there *is* no IE on Linux.
As I said before, there are times when I have no choice but to use Win; and, at those times, IE best fits my needs. When another Win-based browser can do the things I mentioned, I'll switch gleefully.
I'm browser-agnostic (actually, on principle I make MSFT my last-resort choice in all things). I'd love to switch to Opera (or any non-MSFT browser) which could do the things I need.
"not having used Firefox . . . find it hard to believe anything could be slower than IE"
Well, ffox is (on Win). No performance complaints about Opera. I singled-out ffox about speed, because another responder had specifically touted it. (Mind you, I'm complaining about re-draw time, not page-fetch.)
"opera comes with a search option box for google, etc." Sorry, my point wasn't about being able to do searches, but rather generically about third-party toolbar features (e.g., next-up-url-path, highlight / find terms in page). A lot of toolbars never get ported to the other browsers (dammit).
"every time IE crashed for me, it took all it's windows with it". Yes, in earlier versions, unless you took steps (I did) to ensure that each browser window ran in its own process.
"Opera keeps history (what you mean by back traces I think)". Almost what I meant, the only difference being that each window has it's own history of how I arrived at the current page.
"you can arrange as desired inside Opera - much less task bar clutter". Yes, but I just don't happen to care for the MDI paradigm. When I want to switch windows, I prefer always having one place (taskbar) to go. And taskbar clutter isn't a problem, because my taskbar is docked left, max width, auto-hide, "always-on-top". I just have to carelessly slam my mouse max-left to make the taskbar appear, and single click -- no nav'ing menus, no fussy mouse-positioning, and no truncated/squished window titles. (I'm rather surprised that I've never seen anyone else who uses Win like this, because it's s-o-o-o much easier. Try it, it's slicker 'n sh*t.)
"I don't use webwasher as it costs $$". Check again. fwiw, I don't think it's worth paying. But after a 3-week trial, I gladly paid for Outpost and ditched ZA-Pro. (OAS, similar props for TrueImage.)
"you can just go add to bookmarks". Yes, but don't want to. I keep separate "ordinary" folders/dirs by subject or project, containing *any* type of pertinent file, be it txt, eml, url, etc. With IE, when I want to save a link, in one action I just drag the link from the page (or address bar) to the folder (e.g. the folder's open window, or the folder's icon on the desktop or on the quick-launch bar).
"Well, you must never have really RTFM with Opera then(probably Firefox either)."
Mea culpa. OTOH, I didn't need to RTFM for IE, either, in order to figure out how to do these things.
I'd already been using ffox (actually, Phoenix) for a while before trying Opera; since these simple (in IE) mouse-actions hadn't worked in ffox, I probably skipped trying some of them in Opera.
Finally, my prior post omitted another entire category of right-click thing-ies which work only on an IE page, e.g. (admittedly with possible *individual* exceptions):
View Source, Document Tree, Links List, Backward Links, Open Frame In New (unframed) Window, etc.
Now there's an established precedent for other large databases to be non-discloseable, i.e. ;-)
"No, Mr. Ashcroft, I can't give you {my list of '2600' subscribers} / {my ISP customers' DHCP logs} / {my library-card-holders' book-borrowing history}
because it would crash my database."
As for the responder who said od Ashcroft, "but I've had it with this guy": how can anything like this really surprise you by now? It's an anti-populace [sic] mentality that starts at the top and pervades throughout this President's administration. To paraphrase , "It's turd-els, all the way down." They no longer have even the decency to feign shame or embarassment at the lameness and transparency of their evasions. ("We don't need no stinkin' justifications!")
Another responder said, "the FOIA requestor isn't entitled to request the entire DB backup".
Errmmm, why not? How is that different from having the right to request all the separate entries individually? It's a DB of FOREIGN LOBBYISTS, for pete's sake -- what could be in it that we shouldn't be allowed to see?
A suggestion for the original FOIA requestors: change the form of your request. IANAL, but I know of nothing in the FOI Act which bars requests for info which didn't exist until the day *after* the request is made. "OK, Mr Ashcroft, let's do this instead. Surely your people must be using this DB for something, right? OK, my request is, for the next week, whenever your people update or access the DB, I'd like a hard-copy. A screen-print will be fine, thank you. I'll even loan you a camera to capture the screen image. And btw, I'll be back each week with an identical request, until your DB is 'stable'."
"people who really honestly like IE and dislike FireFox... I don't see why, I'd think that from the lamans view they'd be identical"..... /heresy:
/heresy
I use ffox, Opera & IE, and keep returning to IE.
Why?
1. On Win (which I must still use sometimes), ffox is the slowest of the 3 (especially re-draw), even though I'm always on the latest release.
2. I can't get the other browsers to do the simplest, stupidest things I can do in IE, e.g.: drag/drop shortcuts between address-bar & folders, or File=>Send=>Shortcut To Desktop, or drag a link from a page to the address-bar (a sure-fire "use the same window, dammit").
I dunno, maybe I just didn't RTFM.
3. I make genuinely productive use of toolbars (e.g. Google) unavailable on other browsers.
4. I don't grok the excitement of tabbed windows. I much prefer being able to position pages independently in separate windows. And if one of those windows crashes or hangs, I don't lose the others (or their back-traces).
As for security, I do quite well with the combo of common sense, frequennt AV updates, SpyBot, AdAware, WebWasher, and very aggressive/paranoid firewall settings. (I love Agnitum Outpost, which lets me control cookies, ActiveX, JavaScript, etc. -- each *separately* -- on a per-domain basis.)
"there's nothing wrong with being able to find out who's been comitting crimes while using an internet connection"
t em&itemid=277).
1. But there's a lot wrong with forcing *me* to be deputized to do so. It's just like forcing a publisher to disclose a list of customers, or like blaming the bus driver for unwittingly transporting the bomber to the airport.
2. The issue of whether or not there's anything wrong with "being able to find out who's committing crimes" on the net, depends a LOT on which behaviors are currently defined as "crimes".
At this moment, in the US, this distinction isn't trivial. In *my* value-system, there's a LOT wrong with cooperating in the prosecution of a DeCSS publisher, or of Dmitri Sklyarov, or of someone who violates the particular provisions of the "Patriot" Act which say that it's a crime even to detail one's participation in a legal challenge to the Act. ("Patriot Act gags ACLU court challenge to Patriot Act", http://newstandardnews.net/content/?action=show_i