True enough. Not all ISPs that do this allow you to turn it off, however. Comcast is doing something right in that respect - at least they let you opt out cleanly.
Okay, I read through the information as went so far as to set up my laptop to use the Google public server. What's the catch? I read their write-ups about security, but frankly, I'm not a network guy and had eyes glazing fast.
If the end result is that by using 8.8.8.8 I am blocking the ability for an ISP to spoof or redirect my searches, then mission accomplished, but TANSTAAFL! What does Google get from providing this service? Better ads dollars?
These questions are answered in the FAQ. I linked them above in your quote.
Unless they are outright lying, this is one of those projects they do "For the Good of the Community"
Now, since DNS is a cleartext protocol, there's no technical reason why your ISP cannot interfere with this if they wish to. This said, doing so is more involved than simply tinkering with their own DNS servers, and this gets into a grey area legally.
Before, they were simply altering the behavior of their DNS systems, which you requested the use of (by using them). If they were to alter your requests to, say, 8.8.8.8, then they would be deliberately violating their common-carrier status and exposing themselves to all kinds of lawyer-bait.
Probably not. You would think to try the referral URL, however that includes the DNS entry. That said, the ISP is already monkeying with the traffic, so they can always rewrite this header anyway.
... or if you are feeling adventurous, you can always install your own resolver locally. Unless your ISP would hijack requests going to root servers (which is a whole other level of maliciousness)...
For those who hear nothing but a strange whooshing sound...
Java Police, arrest this man he talks in NET He buzzes like C He's like a detuned VM This is what you get... This is what you get...... When you mess with us!
It's less a redundancy and more just entirely inappropriate.. LEDs are simply not light bulbs. That would be akin to me calling a candle a light bulb as well, because it's a device used to provide illumination.
I'm not trying to excuse it. I'm just stating that there is some reason buried down there, however shaky it may be (eg it's not just "because we said so!")
Which has nothing to do with the Internal Revenue Service. Your statement might mean something in just about any other case, but the IRS -ONLY- cares about taxing money that moves about within our "borders"
You know, they have these interesting organizational units called "departments" - usually people with specific skillsets are assigned to specific departments to work on specific things related to said skillsets.
I'm fairly certain the people "squabbling" over this are not the ones doing real important work, such as programming, art, testing or such.
The MBAs need something to do while the real work is happening, after all...
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Yea, in the same way that following a specific ABI in your C magically tracks your users...
Redirections are one thing, but in-place modification... that's just not cool.
True enough. Not all ISPs that do this allow you to turn it off, however. Comcast is doing something right in that respect - at least they let you opt out cleanly.
... and in doing so, invite all kinds of fun to the party!
In short, they would have to be stupid to do so.
Okay, I read through the information as went so far as to set up my laptop to use the Google public server. What's the catch? I read their write-ups about security, but frankly, I'm not a network guy and had eyes glazing fast.
If the end result is that by using 8.8.8.8 I am blocking the ability for an ISP to spoof or redirect my searches, then mission accomplished, but TANSTAAFL! What does Google get from providing this service? Better ads dollars?
These questions are answered in the FAQ. I linked them above in your quote.
Unless they are outright lying, this is one of those projects they do "For the Good of the Community"
Now, since DNS is a cleartext protocol, there's no technical reason why your ISP cannot interfere with this if they wish to. This said, doing so is more involved than simply tinkering with their own DNS servers, and this gets into a grey area legally.
Before, they were simply altering the behavior of their DNS systems, which you requested the use of (by using them). If they were to alter your requests to, say, 8.8.8.8, then they would be deliberately violating their common-carrier status and exposing themselves to all kinds of lawyer-bait.
This is available should you wish to stop even that behavior.
Probably not. You would think to try the referral URL, however that includes the DNS entry. That said, the ISP is already monkeying with the traffic, so they can always rewrite this header anyway.
Then use a local resolver, ensure you set up DNSSec checking, and beat everyone with a stick who still doesn't sign their zones.
... or if you are feeling adventurous, you can always install your own resolver locally. Unless your ISP would hijack requests going to root servers (which is a whole other level of maliciousness)...
How convenient !
I think you forget the part where Java7 -is- OpenJDK, with commercial bits strapped on...
Gah! It ate the first line for some reason.
It's to the melody of Karma Police.
For those who hear nothing but a strange whooshing sound...
Java Police, arrest this man ... When you mess with us!
he talks in NET
He buzzes like C
He's like a detuned VM
This is what you get...
This is what you get...
Sounds like he let people at the conference have it early, and he plans a public release soon.
Unfortunately he seems to be just as much of a whiny bitch as Peter Parker was.
It's less a redundancy and more just entirely inappropriate.. LEDs are simply not light bulbs. That would be akin to me calling a candle a light bulb as well, because it's a device used to provide illumination.
I'm not trying to excuse it. I'm just stating that there is some reason buried down there, however shaky it may be (eg it's not just "because we said so!")
Which is to say "possibly, and with disastrous results should it occur"
I especially love the "LED light bulbs" part...
There's a proper place to do such work. They are called laboratories.
You don't do nuclear work (especially experimentation) in your living quarters. That's irresponsible and dangerous to everyone in the area.
I believe I covered both those aspects with the "money that moves about within our "borders"" part...
Did you not read my whole comment, or did you just choose to ignore that part?
Which has nothing to do with the Internal Revenue Service. Your statement might mean something in just about any other case, but the IRS -ONLY- cares about taxing money that moves about within our "borders"
Then don't. Do realize your use case is an extremely narrow niche however.
You know, they have these interesting organizational units called "departments" - usually people with specific skillsets are assigned to specific departments to work on specific things related to said skillsets.
I'm fairly certain the people "squabbling" over this are not the ones doing real important work, such as programming, art, testing or such.
The MBAs need something to do while the real work is happening, after all...
You do realize the IRS is a US institution and as such doesn't much matter outside of it?