Indeed one could make a list like that and it would be nice. They could call it http://cart00ney.org/. Other people could then take the list and make it into a DNSBL/RHSBL list and host it at http://cart00ney.surriel.com/
Hold on, you don't care about policies (like standards such as the html standards which MS & Netscape embraced and extended and which caused a whole mess which still isn't sorted out yet), nor are you concerned about proprietary blobs (so open source is not important to you), why are you running Ubuntu at all? The only common reasons I can think of for you to run a Linux distro at all is because it doesn't cost money or because some people think it's "cool".
It's people being "anal" (as you put it) about issues like this that lead to us having GNU, Linux and open source at all.
Which brings me to another topic, why on/. was this modded insightful? I can only assume it's because the post mentions the word of the month "Ubuntu". And while Ubuntu is possibly very nice (I have never used it), it has nothing at all to do with the issue at hand (Debian policy conflicting with Mozilla policy). Perhaps if this exact same post was made in early 2005 and you mentioned "Gentoo" it would have been modded "Insightful" as well..
Spamhaus.org is so good that up till now I have not had to block the country which is the largest source of spam in the world, the US. However if spamhaus goes down for any significant length of time (I'm talking more than 12 hours) then I see no choice but to list the whole of the US. So, in the guise of allowing email to flow more freely the US is removing the one thing which stops me from restricting their email even more. Oh the delicious irony.
Everyone should thank Mr Brush for his warnings on North Korea being part of the "axis of evil", and the "with us or aginst us" stuff. It is of course coincidence that the military actions of North Korea followed these statements.
But seriously, good luck to all those countries who want to impose sanctions on North Korea. After all "weapons of mass destruction" should only be held by the US, UK, France etc etc. Obviously sanctions won't piss North Korea off more than than they are and we have also seen in the past that sanctions are an effective means of punishment because it's the leaders of the country who go without and not the general public.
It's quite apparent to me that the people in power have learnt a whole heap of valuable lessons from the cold war on how to avoid conflict, especially where nuclear weapons are involved.
Most chicks I know don't mind a reasonable pass by somebody decent. It's the dope smoking lazy sleazy assholes who don't take care of themselves which are the hassle. And for some reason they never seem to get a clue (or care) that while they present themselves as such they don't have a chance (something females do realise).
If you had the dregs of society after you, you would soon get sick of it too.
There are *many* people who block whole ranges of MCI because they (MCI) are a bunch of idiots. I am sick and tired of running around after MCI, trying to find out where they want to hide their spammers next. I just block a/16 and be done with it. If the bank you worked for is so cheap that they want to skimp on quality and do business with a spam haven like MCI then they should not complain when they have problems.
Who was the bank by the way? (just so I know not to trust them with my money).
Comcast admins, just in case your reading you probably don't know anything abour your own network so here are some prepared lists so that you can block all your outgoing mail (many of us already do).
Wait, just to clarify: Is this use of the word "terrorism" the USA's "everyone is out to get us (the good guys) and we will construe any act we possibly can as terrorism", or is this your own personal whack job?
Because information can now get distributed to millions of people by pressing an Enter key, it's great to see that things like this can be exposed. If anything, this should make companies look more closely at product quality and customer service -- or so we would hope.
Like this: Late last year I spent $600 on a Fisher Paykel washing machine and already it's playing up. Never again will I buy Fisher Paykel crap.
About a year ago I started using compact fluorescent light bulbs in my business, they save me about 70% of my lighting bill and so far not one of them has had to be replaced (I used to be replacing about 25% every week). Additionally becuase release less heat I also save money on air-conditioning.
His theory is that the greater someone's propensity towards immoral behavior, the greater likelihood that they'll seek some sort of organized system that in theory "forces" them to act morally.
Is this a good time to mention priests and alter-boys?
And for an alternative view I look at my current deployment of Debian Sarge and realise that it has had excellent performance, flexibility and reliability. Apart from security updates I haven't had to change a thing. IMHO Debian has all the great things of Linux in a package which I can depend on in business (I also use it at home). Of course I am looking forward to Etch, but Sarge will live forever in my memory as a great release.
If I had mod points I would mod you down as flamebait. Apart from that your argument that because you were listed on one list they therefore must all be "unregulated vigilantes" does not make sense, you fail to recognise that currently using the better of these lists is one of the best ways of reducing spam/virus/phish emails and that the alternative is far far worse.
Imagine if you will dozens of lists which all have their own selection and delisting criteria. Some of the list known spammers, some list open relays/proxies/etc, some list dynamic hosts etc etc. Some of them are administered well while others aren't. This is basically the situation we find ourselves in today. And while it is true that some innocent hosts get blocked, for the most part many people find the lists useful.
The alternative is even less organised. It is basically mail admins everywhere blocking individual hosts, ip blocks and whole networks. They don't usually have listing criteria, they don't automatically expire old listings, many of them don't speak your language and they don't usally reply or fix your listing. Your internet account costs more because they have to spend more time updating their individual listings. Now imagine that your host gets infected by a bot and spews crap everywhere. Whould you prefer to do the work to get yourtself unlisted by one or two dozen lists or would you prefer to try and contact the potentially thousands of private lists which you only find out you are on when they reject your mail?
Losses like this make me think that the government is trying to steal our cultural heritage. We will look back in 20 years and see this as a turning point in history, the time when we all became law abiding citizens. It's a crying shame.
It seems that netharbour.com.au is no longer operating. The domain name does not resolve and ASIC lists the company as deregistered.
Extracted from ASIC's database at AEST 11:06:40 on 29/03/2006 Name NET HARBOUR PTY LIMITED ACN 106 807 201 ABN 20 106 807 201 Type Australian Proprietary Company, Limited By Shares Registration Date 24/10/2003 Next Review Date 24/10/2006 Status Deregistered Date Deregistered  08/01/2006 Locality of Registered Office not available Jurisdiction Australian Securities & Investments Commission
21/10/2005 022477426 1 6010 Application For Voluntary Deregistration of a Company
All we need now is a law against fax spamming so that Dell and getawaysdownunder.com.au stop using my equipment and resources for their own marketing campaign.
You know the penalty laid down by Roman law for harboring a known criminal? MATTHIAS: No. CENTURION: Crucifixion. MATTHIAS (uninterested): Oh. CENTURION: Nasty, eh? MATTHIAS: Hm. Could be worse. CENTURION: What do you mean 'could be worse'? MATTHIAS: Well, you could be stabbed. CENTURION: Stabbed? Takes a second. Crucifixion lasts hours. It's a slow, 'orrible death! MATTHIAS: Well, at lest it gets you out in the open air. CENTURION: You're weird.
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Indeed one could make a list like that and it would be nice. They could call it http://cart00ney.org/. Other people could then take the list and make it into a DNSBL/RHSBL list and host it at http://cart00ney.surriel.com/
Hold on, you don't care about policies (like standards such as the html standards which MS & Netscape embraced and extended and which caused a whole mess which still isn't sorted out yet), nor are you concerned about proprietary blobs (so open source is not important to you), why are you running Ubuntu at all? The only common reasons I can think of for you to run a Linux distro at all is because it doesn't cost money or because some people think it's "cool".
/. was this modded insightful? I can only assume it's because the post mentions the word of the month "Ubuntu". And while Ubuntu is possibly very nice (I have never used it), it has nothing at all to do with the issue at hand (Debian policy conflicting with Mozilla policy). Perhaps if this exact same post was made in early 2005 and you mentioned "Gentoo" it would have been modded "Insightful" as well..
It's people being "anal" (as you put it) about issues like this that lead to us having GNU, Linux and open source at all.
Which brings me to another topic, why on
Spamhaus.org is so good that up till now I have not had to block the country which is the largest source of spam in the world, the US. However if spamhaus goes down for any significant length of time (I'm talking more than 12 hours) then I see no choice but to list the whole of the US. So, in the guise of allowing email to flow more freely the US is removing the one thing which stops me from restricting their email even more. Oh the delicious irony.
Everyone should thank Mr Brush for his warnings on North Korea being part of the "axis of evil", and the "with us or aginst us" stuff. It is of course coincidence that the military actions of North Korea followed these statements.
But seriously, good luck to all those countries who want to impose sanctions on North Korea. After all "weapons of mass destruction" should only be held by the US, UK, France etc etc. Obviously sanctions won't piss North Korea off more than than they are and we have also seen in the past that sanctions are an effective means of punishment because it's the leaders of the country who go without and not the general public.
It's quite apparent to me that the people in power have learnt a whole heap of valuable lessons from the cold war on how to avoid conflict, especially where nuclear weapons are involved.
#ping www.e360insight.com
/etc/postfix/client_checks.cidr
PING www.e360insight.com (63.78.194.3) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from host3.e360data.com (63.78.194.3): icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=257 ms
#whois 63.78.194.3
UUNET Technologies, Inc. UUNET63 (NET-63-64-0-0-1)
63.64.0.0 - 63.127.255.255
E360INSIGHT, LLC UU-63-78-194-D8 (NET-63-78-194-0-1)
63.78.194.0 - 63.78.194.255
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2006-10-08 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
#echo "63.64.0.0/10 REJECT e360insight + hosting ISP (UUNET)" \
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Most chicks I know don't mind a reasonable pass by somebody decent. It's the dope smoking lazy sleazy assholes who don't take care of themselves which are the hassle. And for some reason they never seem to get a clue (or care) that while they present themselves as such they don't have a chance (something females do realise).
If you had the dregs of society after you, you would soon get sick of it too.
There are *many* people who block whole ranges of MCI because they (MCI) are a bunch of idiots. I am sick and tired of running around after MCI, trying to find out where they want to hide their spammers next. I just block a /16 and be done with it. If the bank you worked for is so cheap that they want to skimp on quality and do business with a spam haven like MCI then they should not complain when they have problems.
Who was the bank by the way? (just so I know not to trust them with my money).
That sure sounds like a fun thing to explain to clients, it's easy to rememebr too!
Comcast admins, just in case your reading you probably don't know anything abour your own network so here are some prepared lists so that you can block all your outgoing mail (many of us already do).
http://blackholes.us/zones/isp/comcast.txt
http://blackholes.us/zones/isp/comcast.dnsbl
http://blackholes.us/zones/isp/comcast.classful
Hope that helps. email me to let me know how it goes for you OK?
Wait, just to clarify: Is this use of the word "terrorism" the USA's "everyone is out to get us (the good guys) and we will construe any act we possibly can as terrorism", or is this your own personal whack job?
Because information can now get distributed to millions of people by pressing an Enter key, it's great to see that things like this can be exposed. If anything, this should make companies look more closely at product quality and customer service -- or so we would hope.
Like this: Late last year I spent $600 on a Fisher Paykel washing machine and already it's playing up. Never again will I buy Fisher Paykel crap.
About a year ago I started using compact fluorescent light bulbs in my business, they save me about 70% of my lighting bill and so far not one of them has had to be replaced (I used to be replacing about 25% every week). Additionally becuase release less heat I also save money on air-conditioning.
His theory is that the greater someone's propensity towards immoral behavior, the greater likelihood that they'll seek some sort of organized system that in theory "forces" them to act morally.
Is this a good time to mention priests and alter-boys?
Americans are the least likely (except for Turkish respondents) to assert that 'humans developed ... from earlier species of animals.'
I belive Americans when they say they haven't evolved.
echo "alias rm=\"echo Your fired\!\"" >> /etc/skel/.bashrc
And for an alternative view I look at my current deployment of Debian Sarge and realise that it has had excellent performance, flexibility and reliability. Apart from security updates I haven't had to change a thing. IMHO Debian has all the great things of Linux in a package which I can depend on in business (I also use it at home). Of course I am looking forward to Etch, but Sarge will live forever in my memory as a great release.
I hate all these idiot blackhole lists.
If I had mod points I would mod you down as flamebait. Apart from that your argument that because you were listed on one list they therefore must all be "unregulated vigilantes" does not make sense, you fail to recognise that currently using the better of these lists is one of the best ways of reducing spam/virus/phish emails and that the alternative is far far worse.
Imagine if you will dozens of lists which all have their own selection and delisting criteria. Some of the list known spammers, some list open relays/proxies/etc, some list dynamic hosts etc etc. Some of them are administered well while others aren't. This is basically the situation we find ourselves in today. And while it is true that some innocent hosts get blocked, for the most part many people find the lists useful.
The alternative is even less organised. It is basically mail admins everywhere blocking individual hosts, ip blocks and whole networks. They don't usually have listing criteria, they don't automatically expire old listings, many of them don't speak your language and they don't usally reply or fix your listing. Your internet account costs more because they have to spend more time updating their individual listings. Now imagine that your host gets infected by a bot and spews crap everywhere. Whould you prefer to do the work to get yourtself unlisted by one or two dozen lists or would you prefer to try and contact the potentially thousands of private lists which you only find out you are on when they reject your mail?
Losses like this make me think that the government is trying to steal our cultural heritage. We will look back in 20 years and see this as a turning point in history, the time when we all became law abiding citizens. It's a crying shame.
The USA and Korea are not the two extremes of the world - get out and travel a bit more, I think you may be surprised what your country is missing.
Sheep.
I don't believe there to be any hard evidence that prisoners are mistreated at Guantanamo
You don't believe your own government? Well that is very understandable.
IIRC the data that was analysed to discover 2003UB313 was from 2003.
It seems that netharbour.com.au is no longer operating.
The domain name does not resolve and ASIC lists the company as deregistered.
Extracted from ASIC's database at AEST 11:06:40 on 29/03/2006
Name NET HARBOUR PTY LIMITED
ACN 106 807 201
ABN 20 106 807 201
Type Australian Proprietary Company, Limited By Shares
Registration Date 24/10/2003
Next Review Date 24/10/2006
Status Deregistered Date Deregistered  08/01/2006
Locality of Registered Office not available
Jurisdiction Australian Securities & Investments Commission
21/10/2005 022477426 1 6010 Application For Voluntary Deregistration of a Company
Can you elaborate on how you think the ant-spam laws are ineffective?
As far as I can tell the laws have had quite a good effect, apparently spammers have either stopped, or have moved overseas: http://www.spamhaus.org/news.lasso?article=154, and http://www.spamhaus.org/news.lasso?article=161
All we need now is a law against fax spamming so that Dell and getawaysdownunder.com.au stop using my equipment and resources for their own marketing campaign.
You could always try deleting them, that will show them your advanced knowledge and that your not to be messed with.
You know the penalty laid down by Roman law for harboring a known criminal?
MATTHIAS: No.
CENTURION: Crucifixion.
MATTHIAS (uninterested): Oh.
CENTURION: Nasty, eh?
MATTHIAS: Hm. Could be worse.
CENTURION: What do you mean 'could be worse'?
MATTHIAS: Well, you could be stabbed.
CENTURION: Stabbed? Takes a second. Crucifixion lasts hours. It's a slow, 'orrible death!
MATTHIAS: Well, at lest it gets you out in the open air.
CENTURION: You're weird.