Those elaborate 6 minute timesinks are just for frustration/stupidity. It is an elaborate game mechanic to simply waste time. Kinda like not giving you an option of skipping a stupidly long cutscene before fighting a boss in a game.
Bilski will invalidate this extremely quickly. I guess the company suing really thought NCsoft won't figure that out, or maybe they wanted it to be invalidated that fast?
lol I've heard that before. I manage, but I admit I don't like it either. I think it's the number of programs we have working with it in our magical combination that is the reason we still use it. Lots of old/out of date programs that we've been getting rid of except for Siebel (which seems to be complete crap to me, I don't get why people use it or oracle really).
I am not going to sell the program, I'm just saying 6 was crap and 7.5 is better, doesn't mean "Acceptable". Just "not murder-inciting"
This article is way off at least from my personal perspective.
I don't know what gaming perspective they have, but it's definitely different than my own.
I find Saitek keyboards to be extremely long lasting and great for gaming, also the G15 and never the Microsoft setups for gaming. Also there is another keyboard by MS (forgot the name) that I seem to recall as being awesome for general purpose/general use. Meanwhile the Merc Stealth is the worst gaming keyboard I have ever had the misfortune of getting for free (and trying to make work).
Anyone else care to chime in? It just didn't seem to match for me. Maybe their editors are just not practical or overly finicky?
How would my company not have been locked in? They've spent millions and have to spend millions more just to get away. That is the lock-in part.
Most companies appropriately believe they need the latest version of everything. It's pretty critical in a majority of industries, actually. Or are you saying that we should all be using windows 3.1 still?
It's kinda like patching IE: you're using it on a closed off network it's fine but when you get to reality you need it to be as up to date as possible to deal with the retards who go to bad sites.
I question your view on linux. Apple is better than linux? How exactly? You mean how it "just works" like how they blackboxed a whole set of apples with a patch recently? I'm not saying Linux is perfect, but anyone can put in the effort to do what they want similar to BSD. From a development standpoint it's kinda hard to not want that instead of having to cry to a proprietary company to do what you want based off their own interests.
7.5 brings it up to date, and 8 is supposedly better.
Meanwhile, since sametime is used on old-ass corporations that upgrade slower than a dead turtle crossing the desert, most people are still stuck on 6./running 7.5.1.2 right now, it's "okay". I don't know how people can live on 6.
I do actually hope Lotus opens up, it'd be nice. Would be a hell of a lot easier getting it running on Ubuntu for sure.
They're pretty well written but if there's one thing that's funny, it's infoworld. They "Magically" forgot the option of 6: everything becomes mac/linux.
to me the significance here is that infoworld usually writes nothing but praise for MS. So for them to be willing to write a "there are ways for MS to fail" article speaks a lot in its own way.
see response below, people are locked in right now and have to make significant investments to get out. My workplace is a multibillion dollar company and they hate using MS products due to unnecessary fees but recognize it's even more expensive just to make the transition and so have been doing so little by little.
Nobody said Linux is perfect. However, at this stage both apple and windows are worse for many corporate needs among other things (for non-graphic design related where mac and linux are equal).
With windows, that's basically what I did and never installed an antivirus or ever had problems with it. If the free scans found anything, then I'd take action.
However, I'd always end up after 3-6 months of an XP install that critical system files would somehow get corrupted and the filesystem would fragment rapidly. I never knew how to get around that, so I've just been running ubuntu anyway, which has been generally nicer regardless.
I agree that some things are a "tempest in a teacup" but in general my thoughts here are not associated to porn specifically. I'm not saying people are going to have a violent revolution to deal with porn. however, the overall slow censorship that has been coming little by little in many forms, is beginning to get mob justice in many forms already. DRM, freedom of speech, copyright, patents, basically the liberal-ness of the US has been on attack for far more than 8 years. This control has been a fight for at least the last 100 years in different forms. It's the exact same oppression, but has been brought about slowly. The entire nation is not a slow-boiling frog (since I can't remember the expression).
I'm saying the combination of many factors that have gone downhill for the last 20 or so years is going to lead to it. We have corporations on one side and we have actual people on the other. We wouldn't have that if it wasn't for that act (I forgot the name) that said it's okay to stifle competition by lobbying.
I agree, a pure democracy is a bit much, but I would hardly call our republic well balanced either. I don't have an answer to what would be a better solution. Even if we have better elected officials across the board, the corruption and media manipulation would simply start over again.
Meanwhile, greed is expected and such. It has many levels that are an issue, such as wasteful government spending and transparency. However, how it is handled as a society needs to change. I'm not saying actions need to be taken on people who have been associated with greed but more things need to be done to make sure greed is strongly not encouraged. Clearly our current system doesn't work for that. Greed however, is not related to Christianity or the Bible. It is a common understanding of all people that greed is bad. If we didn't have religion, that same value would still exist.
Ah, I'm not so big on believing that we need to screw "the man" or that we must bring change through violence but I do believe we need change. I myself would not plan on violence, nor would participate in any if it did occur. However, to believe that change has been happening through politics is at best, a delusion. Plenty of these issues have also been around far longer than a decade. Remind me how long freedom of speech has been an issue again?
It's not the best route, but a violent revolution (global this time) seems to be not far off from coming. This stuff doesn't fix itself and what we need is real democracies (and not republics).
My fear is the people that incite the revolutions and take leadership from it will be worse than what we have, setting us back many years.
Commonly the cause of the problem seems to be the generation gap and is exacerbated by technology,greed and politics, basically.
I suppose it's no surprise then that Trend Micro (and likely Mcafee) went berserk while Avast did not? Although I think we had that controversy with the "clamAV vs Mcafee" virus scanning thing a year or two back.
Usually it's the same person who replies to the "brown rope" moron or post right before it. As noted there was a guy who self-pwned himself once like that recently by not posting anon-when he replied to himself with a really racist comment.
Please, that's almost as bad as Microsoft using 7 as their marketing term at the same time as Intel makes the "i7". All we need is AMD to make a "7" processor and we'll be completely full of useless marketing.
He wasn't making up a whole lot with the 100% figure.
It'd be safe to say it like this.
"a whole lot of people hate the 07 layout, and it's far greater than the amount that like it and/or use it". Maybe we can say 80/20 or 90/10? Same thing.
they're treating it like criminal matter but it's civil.
The reason is that you can't subpoena people's addresses and stuff like that if it's civil. Also, unlike criminal court, you absolutely have to pay the fines if you lose. Since there is no proof of distribution, they'd have to pay for every single case.
I said that as well, but that doesn't nullify that the suit they had in progress may be related. The question is whether they started this round of lawsuits about this specific issue before August. If not, then yeah these charges will probably be dismissed. If they did however, might be some issues there. Which way that situation is (before or after it expired) wasn't explained from what I gathered from the article.
Like an ANON said to you, there is a freedom thing. If you stop the flow of people out of the country, you are stopping the flow of people into the country too. If canada gets pissed at us for quite literally stealing jobs from them, they won't exactly smile through it.
Meanwhile, I seem to recall articles saying that H1B's have been abused/etc so issuing more would solve one problem and create another ripe for abuse.
Maybe they need to come up with a new system that isn't as easy to game as current H1B systems are. If you RTFA you'd notice that the "non-hire" agreement has already expired as well, so it's kinda irrelevant at this point. Anyone laid off from Motorola that decides to go to RIM should be able to do so at this point, bar company politics deliberately breaking the law.
What I mean by the last comment is that many states don't like noncompetes. Currently, Illinois does uphold them unfortunately. However, instead of having the employees sign a noncompete (which they could contest in court), the two companies signed a noncompete (which it's impossible for an employee to contest in court)....essentially making it impossible for people to switch companies in that scenario. Specifically because they could just BS their reasoning for declining to hire someone such as "they didn't meet our qualifications" (with no explanation).
At my workplace we handle standards and manufacturing procedures for a variety of companies worldwide. We don't lock our documents but we do use adobe PDF's so we can track who accesses. They state that it's basically not feasible to be able to prevent access to something unless you were to grant it remotely in the first place (similar to like a view-only google doc) instead of giving a document to your customer. Meanwhile, this could still be screencapped if someone wanted their own copy, so it's not even worth it.
As people have said, once a doc is out there, you can't stop access to someone determined even if you have server validation to open it. This is like the "how do you secure a PC from the feds" thing where the answer is if they have physical access/their own copy, you don't.
For this reason, the best steps we have for validation are everything we can do on our side to ensure that the documents are only given out to the appropriate individuals. Thus like anything, human error is the only way it would be released really.
I must say, it's quite an accomplishment that for a product that would normally have steady demand to have the whole recording industry crying foul at the same time, and doing horribly. It's like the RIAA doesn't want to actually make money or something.
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No. Games are for wasting time ENJOYABLY.
Significant difference there.
Those elaborate 6 minute timesinks are just for frustration/stupidity. It is an elaborate game mechanic to simply waste time. Kinda like not giving you an option of skipping a stupidly long cutscene before fighting a boss in a game.
100% agreed.
A game doesn't have to be 100 hours. If it's good AND 100 hours is one thing, but otherwise I'm with you that 10 good is better than 40 of garbage.
Bilski will invalidate this extremely quickly. I guess the company suing really thought NCsoft won't figure that out, or maybe they wanted it to be invalidated that fast?
lol I've heard that before. I manage, but I admit I don't like it either. I think it's the number of programs we have working with it in our magical combination that is the reason we still use it. Lots of old/out of date programs that we've been getting rid of except for Siebel (which seems to be complete crap to me, I don't get why people use it or oracle really).
I am not going to sell the program, I'm just saying 6 was crap and 7.5 is better, doesn't mean "Acceptable". Just "not murder-inciting"
This article is way off at least from my personal perspective.
I don't know what gaming perspective they have, but it's definitely different than my own.
I find Saitek keyboards to be extremely long lasting and great for gaming, also the G15 and never the Microsoft setups for gaming. Also there is another keyboard by MS (forgot the name) that I seem to recall as being awesome for general purpose/general use. Meanwhile the Merc Stealth is the worst gaming keyboard I have ever had the misfortune of getting for
free (and trying to make work).
Anyone else care to chime in? It just didn't seem to match for me. Maybe their editors are just not practical or overly finicky?
Uh, way to nitpick a single line of what I said into something that is not even related?
I'm not even going to bother replying because you're just flat out incorrect here.
How would my company not have been locked in? They've spent millions and have to spend millions more just to get away. That is the lock-in part.
Most companies appropriately believe they need the latest version of everything. It's pretty critical in a majority of industries, actually. Or are you saying that we should all be using windows 3.1 still?
It's kinda like patching IE: you're using it on a closed off network it's fine but when you get to reality you need it to be as up to date as possible to deal with the retards who go to bad sites.
I question your view on linux. Apple is better than linux? How exactly? You mean how it "just works" like how they blackboxed a whole set of apples with a patch recently? I'm not saying Linux is perfect, but anyone can put in the effort to do what they want similar to BSD. From a development standpoint it's kinda hard to not want that instead of having to cry to a proprietary company to do what you want based off their own interests.
7.5 brings it up to date, and 8 is supposedly better.
Meanwhile, since sametime is used on old-ass corporations that upgrade slower than a dead turtle crossing the desert, most people are still stuck on 6. /running 7.5.1.2 right now, it's "okay". I don't know how people can live on 6.
I do actually hope Lotus opens up, it'd be nice. Would be a hell of a lot easier getting it running on Ubuntu for sure.
They're pretty well written but if there's one thing that's funny, it's infoworld. They "Magically" forgot the option of 6: everything becomes mac/linux.
to me the significance here is that infoworld usually writes nothing but praise for MS. So for them to be willing to write a "there are ways for MS to fail" article speaks a lot in its own way.
see response below, people are locked in right now and have to make significant investments to get out. My workplace is a multibillion dollar company and they hate using MS products due to unnecessary fees but recognize it's even more expensive just to make the transition and so have been doing so little by little.
Nobody said Linux is perfect. However, at this stage both apple and windows are worse for many corporate needs among other things (for non-graphic design related where mac and linux are equal).
Oh, and people have been finding something else.
"Nobody buys MS that doesn't want to"? Say that to about every user that's had a problem with something with MS.
Meanwhile, just because they're the biggest company doesn't mean they're relevant. It just means they WERE relevant. Past tense.
Forgive my stupidity but what does TSR stand for?
With windows, that's basically what I did and never installed an antivirus or ever had problems with it. If the free scans found anything, then I'd take action.
However, I'd always end up after 3-6 months of an XP install that critical system files would somehow get corrupted and the filesystem would fragment rapidly. I never knew how to get around that, so I've just been running ubuntu anyway, which has been generally nicer regardless.
reading, reading.
I agree that some things are a "tempest in a teacup" but in general my thoughts here are not associated to porn specifically. I'm not saying people are going to have a violent revolution to deal with porn. however, the overall slow censorship that has been coming little by little in many forms, is beginning to get mob justice in many forms already. DRM, freedom of speech, copyright, patents, basically the liberal-ness of the US has been on attack for far more than 8 years. This control has been a fight for at least the last 100 years in different forms. It's the exact same oppression, but has been brought about slowly. The entire nation is not a slow-boiling frog (since I can't remember the expression).
I'm saying the combination of many factors that have gone downhill for the last 20 or so years is going to lead to it. We have corporations on one side and we have actual people on the other. We wouldn't have that if it wasn't for that act (I forgot the name) that said it's okay to stifle competition by lobbying.
I agree, a pure democracy is a bit much, but I would hardly call our republic well balanced either. I don't have an answer to what would be a better solution. Even if we have better elected officials across the board, the corruption and media manipulation would simply start over again.
Meanwhile, greed is expected and such. It has many levels that are an issue, such as wasteful government spending and transparency. However, how it is handled as a society needs to change. I'm not saying actions need to be taken on people who have been associated with greed but more things need to be done to make sure greed is strongly not encouraged. Clearly our current system doesn't work for that. Greed however, is not related to Christianity or the Bible. It is a common understanding of all people that greed is bad. If we didn't have religion, that same value would still exist.
Ah, I'm not so big on believing that we need to screw "the man" or that we must bring change through violence but I do believe we need change. I myself would not plan on violence, nor would participate in any if it did occur. However, to believe that change has been happening through politics is at best, a delusion. Plenty of these issues have also been around far longer than a decade. Remind me how long freedom of speech has been an issue again?
It's not the best route, but a violent revolution (global this time) seems to be not far off from coming. This stuff doesn't fix itself and what we need is real democracies (and not republics).
My fear is the people that incite the revolutions and take leadership from it will be worse than what we have, setting us back many years.
Commonly the cause of the problem seems to be the generation gap and is exacerbated by technology,greed and politics, basically.
I suppose it's no surprise then that Trend Micro (and likely Mcafee) went berserk while Avast did not? Although I think we had that controversy with the "clamAV vs Mcafee" virus scanning thing a year or two back.
Usually it's the same person who replies to the "brown rope" moron or post right before it. As noted there was a guy who self-pwned himself once like that recently by not posting anon-when he replied to himself with a really racist comment.
who could have seen that coming? :D
Please, that's almost as bad as Microsoft using 7 as their marketing term at the same time as Intel makes the "i7". All we need is AMD to make a "7" processor and we'll be completely full of useless marketing.
you didn't think that was a coincidence, did ya?
He wasn't making up a whole lot with the 100% figure.
It'd be safe to say it like this.
"a whole lot of people hate the 07 layout, and it's far greater than the amount that like it and/or use it". Maybe we can say 80/20 or 90/10? Same thing.
I think it's blatantly retarded too.
As it's been said in the courts,
they're treating it like criminal matter but it's civil.
The reason is that you can't subpoena people's addresses and stuff like that if it's civil. Also, unlike criminal court, you absolutely have to pay the fines if you lose. Since there is no proof of distribution, they'd have to pay for every single case.
Bilski being overturned would highly disagree.
I said that as well, but that doesn't nullify that the suit they had in progress may be related. The question is whether they started this round of lawsuits about this specific issue before August. If not, then yeah these charges will probably be dismissed. If they did however, might be some issues there. Which way that situation is (before or after it expired) wasn't explained from what I gathered from the article.
Like an ANON said to you, there is a freedom thing. If you stop the flow of people out of the country, you are stopping the flow of people into the country too. If canada gets pissed at us for quite literally stealing jobs from them, they won't exactly smile through it.
Meanwhile, I seem to recall articles saying that H1B's have been abused/etc so issuing more would solve one problem and create another ripe for abuse.
Maybe they need to come up with a new system that isn't as easy to game as current H1B systems are. If you RTFA you'd notice that the "non-hire" agreement has already expired as well, so it's kinda irrelevant at this point. Anyone laid off from Motorola that decides to go to RIM should be able to do so at this point, bar company politics deliberately breaking the law.
What I mean by the last comment is that many states don't like noncompetes. Currently, Illinois does uphold them unfortunately. However, instead of having the employees sign a noncompete (which they could contest in court), the two companies signed a noncompete (which it's impossible for an employee to contest in court)....essentially making it impossible for people to switch companies in that scenario. Specifically because they could just BS their reasoning for declining to hire someone such as "they didn't meet our qualifications" (with no explanation).
At my workplace we handle standards and manufacturing procedures for a variety of companies worldwide. We don't lock our documents but we do use adobe PDF's so we can track who accesses. They state that it's basically not feasible to be able to prevent access to something unless you were to grant it remotely in the first place (similar to like a view-only google doc) instead of giving a document to your customer. Meanwhile, this could still be screencapped if someone wanted their own copy, so it's not even worth it.
As people have said, once a doc is out there, you can't stop access to someone determined even if you have server validation to open it. This is like the "how do you secure a PC from the feds" thing where the answer is if they have physical access/their own copy, you don't.
For this reason, the best steps we have for validation are everything we can do on our side to ensure that the documents are only given out to the appropriate individuals. Thus like anything, human error is the only way it would be released really.
I must say, it's quite an accomplishment that for a product that would normally have steady demand to have the whole recording industry crying foul at the same time, and doing horribly. It's like the RIAA doesn't want to actually make money or something.