After looking at that page I'm getting the feeling that the Idle section is going to get more and more Diggish. So my question is did someone at Slashdot HQ hit commit early or is this the finished product?
Nope, Apples selling point is that they make better tech and that is what the commercials say in their own little arrogant way. My guess is with Linux gaining ground they might have to add in PC's brother Linux PC. So you can expect new quips about there being to many Linux distros and parallels being a better option then dual booting or using Wine
I think most of us would have. Linux has always been gaining ground and improving. While Mac has made a massive comeback by making some real solid tech. MS on the other hand has just sat around making lock out tech and trying to convince everyone that anything MS did not start is a dangerous piece of hippy technology. Saying someone else sucks only works for so long before people start asking questions.
Those sites broke every other time a new version of IE came out, and those times there was no magic one line fix. Hell every time a new version of Windows came out they were "breaking existing code all over the world." I'm sorry but it's no excuse. If I code a web site correctly I expect it to work correctly. I should not need a hack because MS thinks it's the golden boy.
WHO is going to go through all of the Legacy websites to update that HTML?
In the last 8 years I've probably done 20 websites for various NFP's, schools, and organizations I've been a member of or was hired by.
You just answered your own question. It should be VERY trivial to add the one line of MS-HTML to these sites for you. They don't feel like paying someone to do it? Then they get a broken web site. It's sounds like I'm being an ass but in the long run it will be far less work for everyone. The switch over to standard HTML has to happen at some point, delaying it with stupid tricks is not going to make it any easier. If MS keeps up this kind of crap anyone coding to IE will just have a huge mess on their hands. They are just making it harder for web developers from here on out and by doing that they are shooting them self in the foot.
I'm not sure but I think that Firefox just mimicked IE on a lot of things to force those pages to work. The fact that the pages render in well firefox shows how good of a job the firefox team did not that those pages render well for a standards compliant browser
I get the feeling we will soon see a preconfigured Sun server running Solaris, some JSP container (tomcat? or does Sun make their own?) and MySQL. A one shot, configured out of the box, web server. Plan on growing? We can handle that for you. Database bogging you down? You can buy a separate database server and we can help you migrate the existing database. Pages rendering to slow? Lets get your JSP container clustered over several servers.
Oh dear god VB. As a kid before I knew any better I programed in VB. For static GUIs nothing was better but if you wanted your program to do ANYTHING you were shit out of luck. I actually stopped programing for a while because VB was all I knew and it was just not fun. I eventually got in to C++ and continued. My VB experience is the main reason that I will never touch Visual Studio anything ever again.
I mostly agree with you but I think you might be off on a few things.
pro : UI development
HA! My most painful college memory was trying to jam my own code in to a GUI I had an IDE generate. STUPID MOVE. The thing was a total disaster. And what did the GUI do? It was buttons and a list. In later classes I sat down and learned how to make a GUI from scratch. In the long run it was so much quicker.
con : leads to code concepts like MyAbstractFooBarFactoryFactoryBean
Sorry to break it to you but this seems to be a standard way of doing things in Java. It's encouraged. The idea is that a long name that makes sense when you read it is worth the extra trouble. Plus because we have IDEs it tends to make writing them trivial. Done right it can be painless and helpful.
layers and layers of 'ghost' classes that really don't do anything but pass the buck. Some call this a framework. I call it Kafkaesque.
Well C/C++ had pointers, Java has crazy class structures. Oh man reflection can give you some REAL surprises if you don't know what people can do with it. Now that I'm used to it i would much rather deal with that then a crazy pointer math or memory management in C/C++.
As I understand it in times of extreme stress and danger the human body is capable of ignoring nearly all pain so that it has a chance of getting out of what ever situation hurt it in the first place. As for the helicopter crash we never really saw how it fell out of the air. For all we know it was only knocked off balance and only hit the ground at something like 10 miles an hour. Just my 2 cents on all that.
As for that "case designate" reference, anyone who has seen the clips from the film knows that "Cloverfield" is the case name that the government has assigned to whatever or whoever is doing all that destruction in New York.
Seems it's named Cloverfield. Speaking of things like this has anyone been tracking all the viral stuff that came out before the movie? I'm trying to find more info on the story. It seems like some of it's out there but I don't quite know where to look.
I just started working a company with a horrifying code base and was using Eclipse. Eclipse did a fantastic job of helping me jump around the code (oh how I love you CTRL + left click) but the code it self was still hard to read. I figured out that in Eclipse you can do a LOT more color coding than is used by default. This seems trivial but now with a glance I can get a good deal more information on the scope and type of a variable or function then before. I highly recommend looking in to it. I have to note that I am doing Java so I'm not sure how well it'll work for C/C++.
I would immediately begin to ask congress for a new checks and balances constitutional amendment.
This might not be popular on Slashdot but mandatory online tracking of all federal elected officials. All activities and dealings of anyone selected by the people to a high seat of office should be more then happy to show their bosses (the people) what they have been doing with their time.
Don't like it? Then don't run for office. Why should we even bother to consider you say that we can't trust you?
Caught doing something bad or that the people didn't like? Shouldn't have been doing that. You are a representative, you represent us.
Doing something "Top Secret"? That's fine, just let us know who you are hanging out with that way if you ARE doing something we think we don't like we know who else should be brought to the trial latter.
Worried about being attacked be terrorists? You do have the secret service to protect you. But not all locations of what you are up to need be known, just your political plans.
Gonna lie about any of this? That my friend is high treason and will be treated as such.
Totally agree. Plus hard core coders who NEED to have an interesting app to work on might end up working on OSS in their free time because they were forced to take a boring job in a shitty market.
It think they are not 100% sure about the whole "a black hole is a singularity" thing.
quantum mechanics.... does not allow objects to have zero size--so quantum mechanics says the center of a black hole is not a singularity but just a very large mass compressed into the smallest possible volume.
I doubt it. I've been waiting for it too. It's been on the firehose for a day or two and it's a been all over Digg. I love Slashdot for the comment quality but sometimes it's so slow on big stories.
Yep. But don't feel too bad. People, such as your self, who can actually admit they were wrong stop these little internet fights from lasting forever and prevent the flood of crap you see on other sites.
Yep I agree. If RP was was spouting "frothing bigotry" for two decades it would not have slipped under the radar. It would be in more then a few newsletters! If you are using ONLY his newsletters as proof of guilt you might want to think twice. Also the The New Republic does not seem very trust worthy. If you really, REALLY, hate Ron Paul (or anyone or anything for that matter) either put forth good reasons or leave the tin foil hat at home. No one on Slashdot likes FUD.
Diddo. But from what I've seen of ideas like this even if the company folds the modder community will take the general idea to heart and keep going with it. With any luck these things will revive the area of hardware hobbyists who are not just tweaking existing store bought hardware. Every hardware project I've done was either too long or minor to be very interesting.
Again with this? Go read the '"Ron Paul Report" newsletter controversy' on his wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_paul. Those statements are based on something someone wrote on his behalf with out him knowing until it was too late. Also He never accepted the KKK money. Please before you go shooting off your mouth on someone the whole internet supports consider that people might have considered these well known issues and had good reasons to dismiss them as the FUD they are.
but how can you expect them to understand and build a system that avoids race conditions, when they don't even understand pointers?
Um...by studying race conditions and not pointers? They are no where near the same thing. I came from a mostly Java college. While I'm not very good at fancy pointer stuff I can do a lot of other things really well, concurrency is one of those things. Java has a fantastic handling of concurrency. Making a thread in Java is quite easy and Java has some very good concurrency structures to make race conditions very easy to get rid of and entirely avoid in the first place.
The best programmers understand the underlying implimentation so they can leverage it.
Exactly. Knowing pointers is fantastic. Hell, I even think everyone should take a few courses in chip design like I did. However, These people don't seem to realize where the next computing problems are. Pointer management is becoming something that you don't have to worry about unless you are writing an OS or a driver. Understanding it is key. If you don't know what Java is doing you can't be a good Java programmer. But this does not mean you need to be able to write it your self. Most programmers know about gate logic and how it all works but how many of you know VHDL or have designed chips with magic?
The point of progress is not to reinvent things that you already have. Java gives you memory management. It's right there. It is by no means perfect, but with every release the JVM gets faster and smarter. Where I work we recently changed from Java 1.3 to Java 1.5. We nearly doubled the speed of our JSP web servers. No code changes.
Java is not perfect and I can totally understand people who are more comfortable in C/C++ but Java has a lot of value that people just do not give it credit for.
Apple might be good for a grandma or for a graphic designer, but for a programmer it's an annoyance.
Exactly. Keep in mind since most people are not and will not ever be programmers I fully expect these kinds of numbers. Us Slashdot readers can hate using macs all we want but I know that I am grateful that OS X is Unix based and is gaining ground over Windows. It is far easier to port from OS X to Linux then from Windows to Linux. This means that in a world where OS X is king a programmer should have no problem getting Linux support for his hardware and games. Good OS X numbers are GOOD for Linux.
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After looking at that page I'm getting the feeling that the Idle section is going to get more and more Diggish. So my question is did someone at Slashdot HQ hit commit early or is this the finished product?
Nope, Apples selling point is that they make better tech and that is what the commercials say in their own little arrogant way. My guess is with Linux gaining ground they might have to add in PC's brother Linux PC. So you can expect new quips about there being to many Linux distros and parallels being a better option then dual booting or using Wine
I think most of us would have. Linux has always been gaining ground and improving. While Mac has made a massive comeback by making some real solid tech. MS on the other hand has just sat around making lock out tech and trying to convince everyone that anything MS did not start is a dangerous piece of hippy technology. Saying someone else sucks only works for so long before people start asking questions.
Those sites broke every other time a new version of IE came out, and those times there was no magic one line fix. Hell every time a new version of Windows came out they were "breaking existing code all over the world." I'm sorry but it's no excuse. If I code a web site correctly I expect it to work correctly. I should not need a hack because MS thinks it's the golden boy.
I'm not sure but I think that Firefox just mimicked IE on a lot of things to force those pages to work. The fact that the pages render in well firefox shows how good of a job the firefox team did not that those pages render well for a standards compliant browser
Oh dear god VB. As a kid before I knew any better I programed in VB. For static GUIs nothing was better but if you wanted your program to do ANYTHING you were shit out of luck. I actually stopped programing for a while because VB was all I knew and it was just not fun. I eventually got in to C++ and continued. My VB experience is the main reason that I will never touch Visual Studio anything ever again.
As I understand it in times of extreme stress and danger the human body is capable of ignoring nearly all pain so that it has a chance of getting out of what ever situation hurt it in the first place. As for the helicopter crash we never really saw how it fell out of the air. For all we know it was only knocked off balance and only hit the ground at something like 10 miles an hour. Just my 2 cents on all that.
Seems it's named Cloverfield. Speaking of things like this has anyone been tracking all the viral stuff that came out before the movie? I'm trying to find more info on the story. It seems like some of it's out there but I don't quite know where to look.
I just started working a company with a horrifying code base and was using Eclipse. Eclipse did a fantastic job of helping me jump around the code (oh how I love you CTRL + left click) but the code it self was still hard to read. I figured out that in Eclipse you can do a LOT more color coding than is used by default. This seems trivial but now with a glance I can get a good deal more information on the scope and type of a variable or function then before. I highly recommend looking in to it. I have to note that I am doing Java so I'm not sure how well it'll work for C/C++.
Satan: Why did it just get so cold in here?
Don't like it? Then don't run for office. Why should we even bother to consider you say that we can't trust you?
Caught doing something bad or that the people didn't like? Shouldn't have been doing that. You are a representative, you represent us.
Doing something "Top Secret"? That's fine, just let us know who you are hanging out with that way if you ARE doing something we think we don't like we know who else should be brought to the trial latter.
Worried about being attacked be terrorists? You do have the secret service to protect you. But not all locations of what you are up to need be known, just your political plans.
Gonna lie about any of this? That my friend is high treason and will be treated as such.
Totally agree. Plus hard core coders who NEED to have an interesting app to work on might end up working on OSS in their free time because they were forced to take a boring job in a shitty market.
I doubt it. I've been waiting for it too. It's been on the firehose for a day or two and it's a been all over Digg. I love Slashdot for the comment quality but sometimes it's so slow on big stories.
Yep. But don't feel too bad. People, such as your self, who can actually admit they were wrong stop these little internet fights from lasting forever and prevent the flood of crap you see on other sites.
Diddo. But from what I've seen of ideas like this even if the company folds the modder community will take the general idea to heart and keep going with it. With any luck these things will revive the area of hardware hobbyists who are not just tweaking existing store bought hardware. Every hardware project I've done was either too long or minor to be very interesting.
Again with this? Go read the '"Ron Paul Report" newsletter controversy' on his wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_paul. Those statements are based on something someone wrote on his behalf with out him knowing until it was too late. Also He never accepted the KKK money. Please before you go shooting off your mouth on someone the whole internet supports consider that people might have considered these well known issues and had good reasons to dismiss them as the FUD they are.
Exactly. Knowing pointers is fantastic. Hell, I even think everyone should take a few courses in chip design like I did. However, These people don't seem to realize where the next computing problems are. Pointer management is becoming something that you don't have to worry about unless you are writing an OS or a driver. Understanding it is key. If you don't know what Java is doing you can't be a good Java programmer. But this does not mean you need to be able to write it your self. Most programmers know about gate logic and how it all works but how many of you know VHDL or have designed chips with magic?
The point of progress is not to reinvent things that you already have. Java gives you memory management. It's right there. It is by no means perfect, but with every release the JVM gets faster and smarter. Where I work we recently changed from Java 1.3 to Java 1.5. We nearly doubled the speed of our JSP web servers. No code changes.
Java is not perfect and I can totally understand people who are more comfortable in C/C++ but Java has a lot of value that people just do not give it credit for.
hmm... I wonder is TF2 is hosted by Valve? They might have better servers then MS does. They have been doing the massive online games thing longer.