You got it backwards. Stupid evil people slowly mess things up. They find small holes in the system that good people have set up. They widen them and abuse them. Then the smart good people notice. They quickly (quick as relative to the amount of time it takes for the problem to arise) fix the holes. Like with the American revolution, trust busting and the Magna Carta.
Are you sure it's not 'cause the girl's typically a newbie, and all newbies tend to be treated quite badly at first by a vocal subset of geeks.
Short answer is yes. Long answer is that is what they are doing they are just far harsher on girls then guys with it. They treat every girl as if she is a "what part is the mouse again?" level newbie even if they have a comp sci PHD.
Yeah. Personally I've always found the tech Girls vs. tech Guys thing a culture problem of geekdom and nothing more. I have meet several girls who are good at tech but just never got in to the field because it's a 'guy' field. The comment from the GP is the typical "get off my lawn" argument that geek guys have on the issue. Most people I have dealt with (both guys and girls) view a tech girl more negatively then they would a tech guy at first and then have no trouble treating them as an equal after they have proven them self. There is a clear guys are better then girls thought out there but there is no substance to it.
How?! I thought the Nunchuck has the same analog stuck as the classic. Am I wrong? Or is the patent only for an analog stick on one type of controller?
I get 15 about once a week. As I remember the about page on Slashdot moderation said It's karma related algorithm that also takes several other things in to account, like how often you visit Slashdot. I started posting more over the past year and my karma shot up. In a few months I got a karma bonus, then a few months after that regularly got mod points, then regularly got 15 mod points and finally started getting 15 about once a week. It's almost gotten to the point where I lose more then I use. Has any one been getting 15 mod points before a year ago?
You have a good point but I was thinking of it more as a culture thing then a learning to program thing. Programmers tend to be interested in select things. Video games, general technology, science, etc. Slashdot and Digg are not very good for me to learn how to program but they both have introduced me to things that I was interested in because I am a programmer. I learned about Firefox, SCO, Python, and many many other things from Slashdot and Digg. It will not teach him how to program but it will teach him some topics that come up among programmers. For about my first year of reading Slashdot there was at least one story a day that contained a term I did not know.
Java is a great language to get started in. Just about anything that you want to do you can do in Java. It might not be best when written in Java but it can be done. I started programing in QBasic moved on to VB and then C/C++ but I only got sucked in to it once I started with Java. It's also the top language out right now so it's very practical.
More important then the language is that you figure out what he likes about programing. Keep his interest alive. I started coding when I was 10 but around the age of 14 I almost entirely stopped. I lost my drive. I was using mostly VB at the time and it was just too much of a pain in the ass and I had nothing to really show for it. Additionally I got to the point where I could not learn anything else about the computer when using Windows. Yet I was not able to jump in to Linux because 1)I knew too little about it 2) I had no one to show me the way. I basically got stuck until I got to college.
So basically keep his drive alive by...
1)Let him pick the projects and just grease the wheels. "Oh you want to do X? learn language Y." "Let me see if I can help you with that bug." He might not be at all interested in the same things you are and there is nothing wrong with that.
2)Give him the guidance he needs but don't force him in to anything.
3)Don't be afraid to learn something new so you can help him with it. It is far easier for you to learn something new then for him, you already know programmer speak.
4) On the topic of programmer speak show him Slashdot or Digg or something like that. Programmers have started there own culture in these places that he might be interested in seeing. Digg might be best for him for now but once he learns more Slashdot is likely to be more his speed.
5) Be a mentor not a coach. Just make sure he is not going to any dead ends like Visual Studio or Windows. You can only learn so much about them before you are not allowed to learn any more.
6)It sounds cheesy but be proud of him. Getting started in this is a lot of time that he could be using to hang out with his friends or play games. It's hard to keep going when your not getting anywhere yet AND no one is impressed with how hard you are trying. Just don't embarrass the kid by telling EVERYONE you meet "Little johnny just started programming!"
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I, personally, don't think it is as much like the Joker from Killing Joke (1988) as many others do.
I fully agree. That Joker was human. He had feelings and in many ways did not want to be who he was. This Joker LOVES who he is and would never stop no mater what he stole or was given.
# Prohibits the government from invoking war powers or other authorities to supersede surveillance rules in the future.
The real problem is as the ACLU http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/35636leg20080612.html has said. We need more checks and balances on this issue. Anything that FISA does no one can question. But at least now NO ONE but FISA can do these kinds of wiretaps. This was the problem with the laws passed in 2006 and 2007 on this issue. They let the president authorize hidden widespread wiretaps. Now such laws are clearly forbidden.
he had little faith that our judicial system would properly address the issue
That's because they did not when working on the bill. This bill was voted on a LOT. To get things in and out of it.
The Dodd-Feingold amendment to remove telecom immunity from the bill just failed by a vote of 32-66.
I was mistaken about Obama's not showing up to vote (that was the case, as I understood it, when the vote was scheduled for yesterday). He is in the Senate and, as he said he would, just voted (along with Hillary Clinton) in favor of the amendment to remove telecom immunity from the bill.
From here http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/#postid-updateE2 That is a MASSIVE number and that vote was ONLY for immunity. The GOP was 100% in favor of no immunity. The GOP has been united since the get go on this issue and were not backing down. This is why I think Obama knew this bill was as good as it was gonna get. It is more productive for him to move on and fix things latter as the President.
Honestly I have not read the bill so I can't comment on how well it does or does not work. If any one has a link to in depth analysis of it I would love to see it so that I have a better idea of what it said. I have heard conflicting reports on it. Some say it's far better some say it's the end of the world as we know it.
Personally I have been more interested in Obama then the bill it self. As I said in response to roystgnr I can not see how voting yes on this bill helps Obama in any way, shape or form. So personally I have to think that it was the lesser of two evils.
Barack "I'll shred the Fourth Amendment, but I'll feel sad about it" Obama
You have the right to your opinion and considering what happened I can't say that I blame you for seeing him this way but consider this. He KNEW 20,000+ supporters HATED the idea of him voting yes on this. Additionally those supporters are his strong base that have been a hallmark of his campaign compared to, not just to other candidates this year, but in the past several elections. He changed his mind (flip-floping that McCain is all ready calling him out on) on an issue that his core wanted him to keep. If he was looking for votes with this move any idiot could tell you it was a bad plan. People are clamming he is pulling this because he is "just as bad as Bush/McCain". If that was true he would not have worked so hard to get the immunity in out of there in the first place. So logically I can't see any reason for him to have done this other then he thought it was the best course of action for us. If he is right or not is different story.
Yes. People fail consider a possibility that a politician could be thinking and that the issue is a bit more complex then "i vote for this because i support everything it is about". Just think about how many times at work you have to say things like "well it's not that easy to do it that way..." when someone who does not know what's going on tells you you're doing something wrong. A lot of politicians are crooks and idiots but not all of them.
This was not an easy call for me. I know that the FISA bill that passed the House is far from perfect. I wouldn't have drafted the legislation like this, and it does not resolve all of the concerns that we have about President Bush's abuse of executive power. It grants retroactive immunity to telecommunications companies that may have violated the law by cooperating with the Bush administration's program of warrantless wiretapping. This potentially weakens the deterrent effect of the law and removes an important tool for the American people to demand accountability for past abuses. That's why I support striking Title II from the bill, and will work with Chris Dodd, Jeff Bingaman and others in an effort to remove this provision in the Senate.
But I also believe that the compromise bill is far better than the Protect America Act that I voted against last year. The exclusivity provision makes it clear to any president or telecommunications company that no law supersedes the authority of the FISA court.
So basically he voted for this to undo things from the bill from last year. If this bill failed a worse one was in the works that the Bush gang would have liked to see get passed. So I'm guessing if Dems started to vote ageist it GOP members (who wanted the worse one) would have voted ageist this one. The dems might have been able to dead lock things but that might have meant that the NSA could continue to do wire taps with out restriction.
Personally I'm not at all happy about this but I think he did the best he could and I still think that he will do more to undo the abuse once in office.
sumdumass has the gist of it. If you read the histories of a few of those parties I'm sure you can see where it happened a few times. Bull Moose Party is one that I remember from school. It sounds a lot like what is happening now.
I would like to stress that this is not that terrible of a system. Long term any idea that is beneficial to the US becomes the policy. The sides argue back and forth and in the end one is proven wrong and throws in the towel. This is not at ALL quick but it seems to have been effective enough to keep us running for more then the 20 years Washington thought this draft of a country would last. The current problem seems to be that it is so difficult for our govt to keep up with the tech that is driving most of these laws.
Also if you look at history there has been a constant strugle of corperations vs the little guy. People will ALWAYS try to take more then they should. It's never going to change. We just need to stay awake and be out raged when it starts. Our govt is designed to be fixable that's why we can make amendments.
I assume you know politics better than I
I learned nearly all of this in high school. I could never understand why no one else remembers these things. My only guess is it's just 'nicer' in a way to sit back and write it all off as hopeless. On this note I would like to add that the way that the US was designed was that if it ever becomes hopeless the people must revolt and destroy it so that it can be rebuilt. This is the point of the 2ed amendment.
Codification of the right to keep and bear arms into the Bill of Rights was influenced by a fear that the federal government would disarm the people in order to impose rule through a standing army or select militia,[2] since history had shown the way tyrants eliminated resistance to suppression of political opponents was to simply take away the people's arms and make it an offense to keep them.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution. So you have two options as far as I can see. Either try to help fix things with they system slowly one step at a time or start working on that revolution. Personally I think Obama is step one to repair. He worked a lot on this bill to make it better then it was.
Just under a third of the Senate, including Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, supported an amendment that would have stripped immunity from the bill. They were defeated on a 66-32 vote.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080709/ap_on_go_co/terrorist_surveillanceHowever Bush and gang are still in power (for both the GOP and most Dems) so any real head way would have just been vetoed. He was however able to force all wire taping from here on out to go through the FISA court.
The bill restates that the FISA law is the only means by which wiretapping for intelligence purposes can be conducted inside the United States. This is meant to prevent a repeat of warrantless wiretapping by future administrations.
Based on history that's not going to happen. What can and has happened is a new party gains a lot ground and then gets absorbed by one of the two main parties.
That does not make them terrorists. It makes them religious fanatics. Terrorism "the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism). They are terrorists because their goal was to spread terror. To be terrorists due to religion they would need to want to spread terror to coerces people to do something their religion makes them believe is right. They never forced anyone else to do anything so it's not coercion. They were more like crazy cultists then Jihad terrorists.
Right now, the Democrats have a small majority in the House and a single-vote majority in the Senate.
I said GOP run. I'm aware that the dems have the numbers but the GOP (for some reason I can not grasp) still seem to run the place.
In fact, everything Obama wrote about Constitutional Law while at the UofC (we were there at the same time) indicates that his view of privacy is very strong
Good to know. I trust Obama from what I've seen of him but the recent stuff has had me a bit worried. It's nice to know that I was right in thinking he was doing all this since it's the lesser of two evils.
"Bundle a browser...lock 'em up and throw away the key! Illegally wiretap American citizens? Eh, they learned their lesson, then won't do it again..."
You forget, that case stopped around the same time Bush got in office. If you want to blame Bush for the wire taping (and I think we all do) that comparison is not fair since Bush was not around when the MS case started.
Nice in theory but they will push an even worse bill through in that time. Even if Obama becomes pres the congress is likely to still be GOP run so undoing such a bill will be VERY difficult. It's the lesser of two evils but it's still an evil.
90% joke and 10% honest question. As unlikely as it is they could have been writing/gathering these behind his back and now that he's gone he can't do anything about it. However the anti-trust ruling makes far more sense.
But how are we supposed to trust them without the source code?
Um...how can you trust that the source code you get is what they are running? With a desktop app you can compile and use that version. You can't really use your own version of Amazon of Google. If they REALLY wanted to look GNU approved they could just put links to code that is old and does not have any nasty stuff in it.
As a side note as web developer a lot of web code is like hot dogs. Just enjoy it and try not to think of what it's made of, you'll just get sick to your stomach.
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You got it backwards. Stupid evil people slowly mess things up. They find small holes in the system that good people have set up. They widen them and abuse them. Then the smart good people notice. They quickly (quick as relative to the amount of time it takes for the problem to arise) fix the holes. Like with the American revolution, trust busting and the Magna Carta.
His first name is "The" and his last name is "People".
Short answer is yes. Long answer is that is what they are doing they are just far harsher on girls then guys with it. They treat every girl as if she is a "what part is the mouse again?" level newbie even if they have a comp sci PHD.
Yeah. Personally I've always found the tech Girls vs. tech Guys thing a culture problem of geekdom and nothing more. I have meet several girls who are good at tech but just never got in to the field because it's a 'guy' field. The comment from the GP is the typical "get off my lawn" argument that geek guys have on the issue. Most people I have dealt with (both guys and girls) view a tech girl more negatively then they would a tech guy at first and then have no trouble treating them as an equal after they have proven them self. There is a clear guys are better then girls thought out there but there is no substance to it.
How?! I thought the Nunchuck has the same analog stuck as the classic. Am I wrong? Or is the patent only for an analog stick on one type of controller?
I get 15 about once a week. As I remember the about page on Slashdot moderation said It's karma related algorithm that also takes several other things in to account, like how often you visit Slashdot. I started posting more over the past year and my karma shot up. In a few months I got a karma bonus, then a few months after that regularly got mod points, then regularly got 15 mod points and finally started getting 15 about once a week. It's almost gotten to the point where I lose more then I use. Has any one been getting 15 mod points before a year ago?
You have a good point but I was thinking of it more as a culture thing then a learning to program thing. Programmers tend to be interested in select things. Video games, general technology, science, etc. Slashdot and Digg are not very good for me to learn how to program but they both have introduced me to things that I was interested in because I am a programmer. I learned about Firefox, SCO, Python, and many many other things from Slashdot and Digg. It will not teach him how to program but it will teach him some topics that come up among programmers. For about my first year of reading Slashdot there was at least one story a day that contained a term I did not know.
Java is a great language to get started in. Just about anything that you want to do you can do in Java. It might not be best when written in Java but it can be done. I started programing in QBasic moved on to VB and then C/C++ but I only got sucked in to it once I started with Java. It's also the top language out right now so it's very practical.
More important then the language is that you figure out what he likes about programing. Keep his interest alive. I started coding when I was 10 but around the age of 14 I almost entirely stopped. I lost my drive. I was using mostly VB at the time and it was just too much of a pain in the ass and I had nothing to really show for it. Additionally I got to the point where I could not learn anything else about the computer when using Windows. Yet I was not able to jump in to Linux because 1)I knew too little about it 2) I had no one to show me the way. I basically got stuck until I got to college.
So basically keep his drive alive by...
1)Let him pick the projects and just grease the wheels. "Oh you want to do X? learn language Y." "Let me see if I can help you with that bug." He might not be at all interested in the same things you are and there is nothing wrong with that.
2)Give him the guidance he needs but don't force him in to anything.
3)Don't be afraid to learn something new so you can help him with it. It is far easier for you to learn something new then for him, you already know programmer speak.
4) On the topic of programmer speak show him Slashdot or Digg or something like that. Programmers have started there own culture in these places that he might be interested in seeing. Digg might be best for him for now but once he learns more Slashdot is likely to be more his speed.
5) Be a mentor not a coach. Just make sure he is not going to any dead ends like Visual Studio or Windows. You can only learn so much about them before you are not allowed to learn any more.
6)It sounds cheesy but be proud of him. Getting started in this is a lot of time that he could be using to hang out with his friends or play games. It's hard to keep going when your not getting anywhere yet AND no one is impressed with how hard you are trying. Just don't embarrass the kid by telling EVERYONE you meet "Little johnny just started programming!"
I fully agree. That Joker was human. He had feelings and in many ways did not want to be who he was. This Joker LOVES who he is and would never stop no mater what he stole or was given.
According to wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FISA_Amendments_Act_of_2008 that is just what this law does. All wiretaps must go through FISA. Look at the last point
The real problem is as the ACLU http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/35636leg20080612.html has said. We need more checks and balances on this issue. Anything that FISA does no one can question. But at least now NO ONE but FISA can do these kinds of wiretaps. This was the problem with the laws passed in 2006 and 2007 on this issue. They let the president authorize hidden widespread wiretaps. Now such laws are clearly forbidden.
That's because they did not when working on the bill. This bill was voted on a LOT. To get things in and out of it.
From here http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/#postid-updateE2 That is a MASSIVE number and that vote was ONLY for immunity. The GOP was 100% in favor of no immunity. The GOP has been united since the get go on this issue and were not backing down. This is why I think Obama knew this bill was as good as it was gonna get. It is more productive for him to move on and fix things latter as the President.
Yes but he could have not voted like McCain did.
Honestly I have not read the bill so I can't comment on how well it does or does not work. If any one has a link to in depth analysis of it I would love to see it so that I have a better idea of what it said. I have heard conflicting reports on it. Some say it's far better some say it's the end of the world as we know it.
Personally I have been more interested in Obama then the bill it self. As I said in response to roystgnr I can not see how voting yes on this bill helps Obama in any way, shape or form. So personally I have to think that it was the lesser of two evils.
You have the right to your opinion and considering what happened I can't say that I blame you for seeing him this way but consider this. He KNEW 20,000+ supporters HATED the idea of him voting yes on this. Additionally those supporters are his strong base that have been a hallmark of his campaign compared to, not just to other candidates this year, but in the past several elections. He changed his mind (flip-floping that McCain is all ready calling him out on) on an issue that his core wanted him to keep. If he was looking for votes with this move any idiot could tell you it was a bad plan. People are clamming he is pulling this because he is "just as bad as Bush/McCain". If that was true he would not have worked so hard to get the immunity in out of there in the first place. So logically I can't see any reason for him to have done this other then he thought it was the best course of action for us. If he is right or not is different story.
Yes. People fail consider a possibility that a politician could be thinking and that the issue is a bit more complex then "i vote for this because i support everything it is about". Just think about how many times at work you have to say things like "well it's not that easy to do it that way..." when someone who does not know what's going on tells you you're doing something wrong. A lot of politicians are crooks and idiots but not all of them.
So basically he voted for this to undo things from the bill from last year. If this bill failed a worse one was in the works that the Bush gang would have liked to see get passed. So I'm guessing if Dems started to vote ageist it GOP members (who wanted the worse one) would have voted ageist this one. The dems might have been able to dead lock things but that might have meant that the NSA could continue to do wire taps with out restriction. Personally I'm not at all happy about this but I think he did the best he could and I still think that he will do more to undo the abuse once in office.
I would like to stress that this is not that terrible of a system. Long term any idea that is beneficial to the US becomes the policy. The sides argue back and forth and in the end one is proven wrong and throws in the towel. This is not at ALL quick but it seems to have been effective enough to keep us running for more then the 20 years Washington thought this draft of a country would last. The current problem seems to be that it is so difficult for our govt to keep up with the tech that is driving most of these laws.
Also if you look at history there has been a constant strugle of corperations vs the little guy. People will ALWAYS try to take more then they should. It's never going to change. We just need to stay awake and be out raged when it starts. Our govt is designed to be fixable that's why we can make amendments.
I learned nearly all of this in high school. I could never understand why no one else remembers these things. My only guess is it's just 'nicer' in a way to sit back and write it all off as hopeless. On this note I would like to add that the way that the US was designed was that if it ever becomes hopeless the people must revolt and destroy it so that it can be rebuilt. This is the point of the 2ed amendment.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution. So you have two options as far as I can see. Either try to help fix things with they system slowly one step at a time or start working on that revolution. Personally I think Obama is step one to repair. He worked a lot on this bill to make it better then it was.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080709/ap_on_go_co/terrorist_surveillanceHowever Bush and gang are still in power (for both the GOP and most Dems) so any real head way would have just been vetoed. He was however able to force all wire taping from here on out to go through the FISA court.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080709/ap_on_go_co/terrorist_surveillance I'm not at all happy that this passed with the immunity but one step at a time. No more rouge wiretaps just because the president said so.
Based on history that's not going to happen. What can and has happened is a new party gains a lot ground and then gets absorbed by one of the two main parties.
That does not make them terrorists. It makes them religious fanatics. Terrorism "the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism). They are terrorists because their goal was to spread terror. To be terrorists due to religion they would need to want to spread terror to coerces people to do something their religion makes them believe is right. They never forced anyone else to do anything so it's not coercion. They were more like crazy cultists then Jihad terrorists.
I said GOP run. I'm aware that the dems have the numbers but the GOP (for some reason I can not grasp) still seem to run the place.
Good to know. I trust Obama from what I've seen of him but the recent stuff has had me a bit worried. It's nice to know that I was right in thinking he was doing all this since it's the lesser of two evils.
You forget, that case stopped around the same time Bush got in office. If you want to blame Bush for the wire taping (and I think we all do) that comparison is not fair since Bush was not around when the MS case started.
Nice in theory but they will push an even worse bill through in that time. Even if Obama becomes pres the congress is likely to still be GOP run so undoing such a bill will be VERY difficult. It's the lesser of two evils but it's still an evil.
90% joke and 10% honest question. As unlikely as it is they could have been writing/gathering these behind his back and now that he's gone he can't do anything about it. However the anti-trust ruling makes far more sense.
Did anyone else notice this is coming out on the first business day at MS that is Gates free...?
Um...how can you trust that the source code you get is what they are running? With a desktop app you can compile and use that version. You can't really use your own version of Amazon of Google. If they REALLY wanted to look GNU approved they could just put links to code that is old and does not have any nasty stuff in it.
As a side note as web developer a lot of web code is like hot dogs. Just enjoy it and try not to think of what it's made of, you'll just get sick to your stomach.