It always amazes me how many people put chiropractics an homeopathy in the same category. Chiropractics is easy enough to prove. It has been proven hundreds of thousands of times. All you need is an X-ray machine. X-ray the patient before a bone is moved, and then X-ray again after the bone has been moved. Yes, there are a HUGE number of frauds in the chiropractic field. The frauds may even be an overwhelming majority, but to argue that chiropractics does not work is to argue that medical X-rays don't really work.
Homeopathy on the other hand is different. The basic premise of homeopathy is immunization. Immunization has clearly proven to work. Even those that are against vaccinations agree that it works. They just think the side effects are not worth the protection. It seems that the word homeopathy is only applied to vaccination when it doesn't work. Even then, I generally only hear the term 'homeopathy' used by those trying to debunk it. There could be an entire field of homeopathy that works quite well, (one might even reasonably call many modern vaccines homeopathy) and I have just never seen them.
A small amount of math has to be used on the Chicken pox number. Of the 4 million people a year that catch chicken pox 5% of them are adults so 4 million must be reduced to 3,800,000. 55% of the deaths are in adults, so the 100-150 (lets just go with the worst number of 150) must be reduced to 67.5.
That leaves you with 1.18:100000. Just a bit less than High School Football.
Of course, this doesn't take into account what will happen when the vaccine wears off for the adult population where the chance of death is: 27.5:100000.
Your son gets to choose his master? I guess that is better than being sold to whoever pays the highest price to those that currently own him. There is no excuse for slave labor. They should be paying your son for his labor. Anything less is despicable and predatory.
The child has no say in being give the Chicken Pox vaccine either. The vaccine that is known to only offer temporary protection, combined with the fact that the disease it delays is 10-20x more likely to kill an adult than a child.
How about the Chicken Pox vaccine which is known to offer only temporary protection, leaving the patient with the 10-20x increased risk associated with adult infection?
Have you looked at the probabilities of the Chicken Pox vaccine? The probability that letting your kid play High School football will kill them is greater than the probability that getting Chicken Pox will. The probability that they will die as an adult from Chicken Pox is 10-20x higher when the temporary Chicken Pox vaccine wears off than it is for them to die of Chicken Pox by forgoing the vaccine and going to a Pox Party instead.
Probability says: Polio Vaccine, Good. Chicken Pox Vaccine, Bad.
True, and if the doctor give the child the Chicken Pox vaccine, they will be increase the risk of death 10 fold, but by the time the kid dies, he will no longer be in that doctor's care. Double win!
Of course, in another decade, it will be the kids that DID get the Chicken Pox vaccine, and had it lose its effectiveness as it is already known to do that will be collecting in secondary schools and colleges providing a perfect breeding ground for the virus. Blind acceptance is as bad as blind rejection. Chicken Pox is 10-20x more dangerous for an adult than it is for a child, and the current vaccine being given is known to only offer temporary protection.
Thank you. I rarely hear anyone else pointing out how bad the Chicken Pox vaccine is. Everybody involved makes more money by giving the kid the vaccine except the kid who has an increased risk of death as an adult. The CDC even gives making more money as a primary reason for giving your child the vaccine.
I wish I didn't have to say "well my kid has never gotten". While I am all for the Polio, MMR, etc. vaccines. The Chicken Pox vaccine is more likely to kill your child than to save them. Chicken Pox has less chance of killing a kid than playing High School football, but the vaccine that is known to only offer temporary protection is going to leave a large part of the adult population unprotected with a 10-20x greater chance of death due to the disease.
Saying that "Vaccines" are good for you makes about as much sense as saying "Food" is good for you.
The science doesn't always show this though. All Vaccines are not equal. Sure, the autism scare is well debunked. Really it didn't even need debunking because the infamous study that claimed the link didn't link it to "vaccines" or even "vaccines for specific diseases". It claimed a link with a specific combination of vaccines that were grouped into a single shot. Those that believed the report could have easily immunized using different available formulations. Besides, even if the study was correct, and the offending vaccine formula was the only one available, the risk of autism would be less than the risk of the diseases the vaccine protects against.
On the other hand, we have vaccines like the flu vaccine that has questionable results, and the really bad one, the Chicken Pox vaccine. A vaccine that is known to offer only temporary protection. Chicken Pox is a disease that carries less risk than playing High School Football, and is only approx. twice as dangerous as riding a school bus to school. It is also a disease that becomes 10-20x more dangerous by catching it as an adult. Chicken Pox is a highly contagious disease, so unless you wipe it out from the entire planet, it is pretty much guaranteed to make it back into the US. Since other first world countries do not recommend the vaccine, there is no way it will be eradicate from the planet.
If you check the CDC's own site, the data does not produce a result that should recommend that particular vaccine, and they argue that money is a significant reason to get the vaccine.
Anyone that lumps every vaccine into the same "good"/"bad" catagory without considering the effectiveness of the individual vaccine is the moron. Telling your kid that he can not play High School football is more effective at preventing injury and death during childhood than getting the Chicken Pox vaccine. The Chicken Pox vaccine is also know to only offer temporary protection. We have yet to see when this generation of kids have to face adulthood and a 10x chance of injury or death when the vaccine fails.
Unfortunately, for every "All vaccines are bad" person, there are two "Every vaccine is good" person. Chicken Pox is an epidemic waiting to happen. Not because people refuse the vaccine, but because people get it. It is know to only offer temporary protection. It is also know that getting Chicken Pox as an adult is 10x more dangerous than getting it as a child.
Would I take my child to a place where herd immunity doesn't exist for Chicken Pox? Absolutely. Would I want my child making it to adulthood without having gained a natural and permanent immunity? No. The Chicken Pox vaccine should be reserved for those people who have not caught chicken pox as a child. There is just too much money to be had in putting the disease off until adulthood.
The sad thing is that the rise of the "All vaccines are bad" crowd has spawned the rise of the "If you don't take every vaccine offered, you are a murder" crowd.
BS. Every doctor who has even vaguely looked at the Chicken Pox numbers knows that the vaccine only offers temporary protection. They also know that the risk from Chicken Pox is over 10x greater for Adults, which is when the Chicken Pox given to children today will wear off.
It doesn't when it is the Chicken Pox vaccine which is known to offer only temporary protection. Just long enough to turn it from a major inconvenience into a life threatening illness.
But what happens when it is a mild disease like Chicken Pox, where getting the vaccine turns it into a much more dangerous disease 15 years down the road?
In California, they were pushing to implementing the same thing. They were going to make it a requirement for High School graduation. Yes, they were going to sell it as a requirement to "Volunteer", but in the English I speak, once you are required to do something, you are not "Volunteering".
I would say it is more an issue of the current cultural climate that has most people believing that if you couch your very serious statements in the form of a joke it isn't OK for anyone to point out how wrong you are.
And ask him why he is demanding access to pictures of little kids? Seems to me that he is a little too adamant about wanting to see pictures a little kids and underage girls.
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Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlfMsZwr8rc
It always amazes me how many people put chiropractics an homeopathy in the same category. Chiropractics is easy enough to prove. It has been proven hundreds of thousands of times. All you need is an X-ray machine. X-ray the patient before a bone is moved, and then X-ray again after the bone has been moved. Yes, there are a HUGE number of frauds in the chiropractic field. The frauds may even be an overwhelming majority, but to argue that chiropractics does not work is to argue that medical X-rays don't really work.
Homeopathy on the other hand is different. The basic premise of homeopathy is immunization. Immunization has clearly proven to work. Even those that are against vaccinations agree that it works. They just think the side effects are not worth the protection. It seems that the word homeopathy is only applied to vaccination when it doesn't work. Even then, I generally only hear the term 'homeopathy' used by those trying to debunk it. There could be an entire field of homeopathy that works quite well, (one might even reasonably call many modern vaccines homeopathy) and I have just never seen them.
Exactly, he only denied it AFTER 640k was not enough.
Death rates:
http://chickenpox.emedtv.com/chickenpox/adult-chickenpox-p2.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenpox
Time limited protection, Search on "Booster":
http://www.chop.edu/service/vaccine-education-center/a-look-at-each-vaccine/varicella-chickenpox-vaccine.html The booster shots are now recommended because the vaccine failed after a half dozen years. Chance of death due to High School Football (for those exposed): 1.21:100000
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC155424/table/T5/
Chance of death due to childhood Chicken Pox (for those exposed):
http://www.cdc.gov/chickenpox/surveillance.html
A small amount of math has to be used on the Chicken pox number. Of the 4 million people a year that catch chicken pox 5% of them are adults so 4 million must be reduced to 3,800,000. 55% of the deaths are in adults, so the 100-150 (lets just go with the worst number of 150) must be reduced to 67.5.
That leaves you with 1.18:100000. Just a bit less than High School Football.
Of course, this doesn't take into account what will happen when the vaccine wears off for the adult population where the chance of death is: 27.5:100000.
Your son gets to choose his master? I guess that is better than being sold to whoever pays the highest price to those that currently own him. There is no excuse for slave labor. They should be paying your son for his labor. Anything less is despicable and predatory.
The child has no say in being give the Chicken Pox vaccine either. The vaccine that is known to only offer temporary protection, combined with the fact that the disease it delays is 10-20x more likely to kill an adult than a child.
How about the Chicken Pox vaccine which is known to offer only temporary protection, leaving the patient with the 10-20x increased risk associated with adult infection?
Have you looked at the probabilities of the Chicken Pox vaccine? The probability that letting your kid play High School football will kill them is greater than the probability that getting Chicken Pox will. The probability that they will die as an adult from Chicken Pox is 10-20x higher when the temporary Chicken Pox vaccine wears off than it is for them to die of Chicken Pox by forgoing the vaccine and going to a Pox Party instead.
Probability says: Polio Vaccine, Good. Chicken Pox Vaccine, Bad.
True, and if the doctor give the child the Chicken Pox vaccine, they will be increase the risk of death 10 fold, but by the time the kid dies, he will no longer be in that doctor's care. Double win!
Of course, in another decade, it will be the kids that DID get the Chicken Pox vaccine, and had it lose its effectiveness as it is already known to do that will be collecting in secondary schools and colleges providing a perfect breeding ground for the virus. Blind acceptance is as bad as blind rejection. Chicken Pox is 10-20x more dangerous for an adult than it is for a child, and the current vaccine being given is known to only offer temporary protection.
Thank you. I rarely hear anyone else pointing out how bad the Chicken Pox vaccine is. Everybody involved makes more money by giving the kid the vaccine except the kid who has an increased risk of death as an adult. The CDC even gives making more money as a primary reason for giving your child the vaccine.
I wish I didn't have to say "well my kid has never gotten". While I am all for the Polio, MMR, etc. vaccines. The Chicken Pox vaccine is more likely to kill your child than to save them. Chicken Pox has less chance of killing a kid than playing High School football, but the vaccine that is known to only offer temporary protection is going to leave a large part of the adult population unprotected with a 10-20x greater chance of death due to the disease.
Saying that "Vaccines" are good for you makes about as much sense as saying "Food" is good for you.
The science doesn't always show this though. All Vaccines are not equal. Sure, the autism scare is well debunked. Really it didn't even need debunking because the infamous study that claimed the link didn't link it to "vaccines" or even "vaccines for specific diseases". It claimed a link with a specific combination of vaccines that were grouped into a single shot. Those that believed the report could have easily immunized using different available formulations. Besides, even if the study was correct, and the offending vaccine formula was the only one available, the risk of autism would be less than the risk of the diseases the vaccine protects against.
On the other hand, we have vaccines like the flu vaccine that has questionable results, and the really bad one, the Chicken Pox vaccine. A vaccine that is known to offer only temporary protection. Chicken Pox is a disease that carries less risk than playing High School Football, and is only approx. twice as dangerous as riding a school bus to school. It is also a disease that becomes 10-20x more dangerous by catching it as an adult. Chicken Pox is a highly contagious disease, so unless you wipe it out from the entire planet, it is pretty much guaranteed to make it back into the US. Since other first world countries do not recommend the vaccine, there is no way it will be eradicate from the planet.
If you check the CDC's own site, the data does not produce a result that should recommend that particular vaccine, and they argue that money is a significant reason to get the vaccine.
Anyone that lumps every vaccine into the same "good"/"bad" catagory without considering the effectiveness of the individual vaccine is the moron. Telling your kid that he can not play High School football is more effective at preventing injury and death during childhood than getting the Chicken Pox vaccine. The Chicken Pox vaccine is also know to only offer temporary protection. We have yet to see when this generation of kids have to face adulthood and a 10x chance of injury or death when the vaccine fails.
Unfortunately, for every "All vaccines are bad" person, there are two "Every vaccine is good" person. Chicken Pox is an epidemic waiting to happen. Not because people refuse the vaccine, but because people get it. It is know to only offer temporary protection. It is also know that getting Chicken Pox as an adult is 10x more dangerous than getting it as a child.
Would I take my child to a place where herd immunity doesn't exist for Chicken Pox? Absolutely. Would I want my child making it to adulthood without having gained a natural and permanent immunity? No. The Chicken Pox vaccine should be reserved for those people who have not caught chicken pox as a child. There is just too much money to be had in putting the disease off until adulthood.
The sad thing is that the rise of the "All vaccines are bad" crowd has spawned the rise of the "If you don't take every vaccine offered, you are a murder" crowd.
BS. Every doctor who has even vaguely looked at the Chicken Pox numbers knows that the vaccine only offers temporary protection. They also know that the risk from Chicken Pox is over 10x greater for Adults, which is when the Chicken Pox given to children today will wear off.
It doesn't when it is the Chicken Pox vaccine which is known to offer only temporary protection. Just long enough to turn it from a major inconvenience into a life threatening illness.
But what happens when it is a mild disease like Chicken Pox, where getting the vaccine turns it into a much more dangerous disease 15 years down the road?
That is the same requirement that California tried to implement for it's High Schools.
In California, they were pushing to implementing the same thing. They were going to make it a requirement for High School graduation. Yes, they were going to sell it as a requirement to "Volunteer", but in the English I speak, once you are required to do something, you are not "Volunteering".
I would say it is more an issue of the current cultural climate that has most people believing that if you couch your very serious statements in the form of a joke it isn't OK for anyone to point out how wrong you are.
And ask him why he is demanding access to pictures of little kids? Seems to me that he is a little too adamant about wanting to see pictures a little kids and underage girls.
Glass and plastic are going to hold a lot less disease than the couch you would be sitting on.
My phone runs 6 hours easily as a 4G hotspot. It has no problem lasting the day not as a hotspot. My screen is still the primary power draw on my phone. The only problem with 4G seems to be a problem with having a crappy carrier.