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Ask Slashdot: Making a Tablet Run Only One Application?

An anonymous reader asks "I'm working for a medical centre who want to make a tablet with various videos and webpages about smoking cessation available in their waiting room. The tablet can't access the Internet because of security policies. I'm planning to use a local server with copies of the (Creative Commons) videos and pages accessed through local webpages using the tablet's browser. How can I make only the browser be available to the tablet users? Ideas? Suggestions?"

260 comments

  1. DNS Hijacking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Setup a wireless network where all the HTTP requests go to the server with your content.

    1. Re:DNS Hijacking by Albanach · · Score: 1

      Setup a wireless network where all the HTTP requests go to the server with your content.

      At least on some very popular models of tablets, it is unnecessarily difficult to restrict settings like DNS servers.

      Something like this might be helpful though. Only run the Video client with the videos available locally.

    2. Re:DNS Hijacking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That makes only their content available to the browser, sure.
      But he wants to know how to make the browser the only application available.

    3. Re:DNS Hijacking by the_enigma_1983 · · Score: 2

      Without DNSSec though, it's fairly easy to redirect any DNS traffic. Allow ports 80 and 53, redirect them to a local server, and block anything else.

    4. Re:DNS Hijacking by symbolset · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Delete the other applications? Was that the answer?

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    5. Re:DNS Hijacking by postbigbang · · Score: 1

      Delete the other applications, and replace the hosts file so that the unit can only point at one IP.

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    6. Re:DNS Hijacking by errandum · · Score: 1

      The gateway specified in the DHCP field would be enough to filter things, I'd say. Just have your named.conf give specific information to the tablet's MAC address. And then have all requests made to that gw go where you want them to. Or did I miss something?

    7. Re:DNS Hijacking by Albanach · · Score: 2

      Don't you think rerouting DNS, configuring your DNS server specifically for a handful of clients, and running a web server to stream video data over your local wireless network (noting that the OP had network security concerns already) that could easily be stored locally might be overkill if the device itself can be left running only the video app?

      I don't want to deprive you of geek points, but sometimes there might be a simpler solution.

    8. Re:DNS Hijacking by Nikker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ou mean like copying the video to an SD card and set up a user with only execute permissions to one file on the system

      .... Nah that would never work.

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    9. Re:DNS Hijacking by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Until someone realises their mobile phone can be a wifi hotspot too.

    10. Re:DNS Hijacking by mcavic · · Score: 1

      Yes, that's probably the best you can do. You can't lock the tablet into a single application without modifying the operating system. But you can remove more or all of the other applications, and without Internet access nobody will be able to download anything else.

      You don't even need DNS hijacking. Internet access has already been restricted, presumably by a MAC address or IP address filter.

    11. Re:DNS Hijacking by mcavic · · Score: 1

      Some Windows kiosks have custom browsers or other apps that run full screen and don't let you out easily. That might be a better solution, but more difficult.

    12. Re:DNS Hijacking by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      My Boss didn't like my idea during a brain storming session, but it would work, on the iPAD you setup an iPAD compatible web app (you can remove all the UI components and you superglue a piece of plastic over the Home button.

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    13. Re:DNS Hijacking by Flaming+Troll+Shill · · Score: 1

      I use .Kids Place; it only allows apps that I allow to run to be run without a 4-digit PIN to unlock. You could load it with video & allow only the video player. Everything else is blocked.

      It's a pretty simple app, I suspect someone could write a kiosk app in a few hours.

      I find it disappointing that "Ask Slashdot" questions can be solved in 30 seconds on Google.

    14. Re:DNS Hijacking by lerxstz · · Score: 1

      Sometimes the best technological solution is none. Except I'd suggest a variation to your idea: put it in a secure case that physically blocks the home button instead. That way you don't damage the tablet.

      Although, in the case of the original submitter, I'd be more worried about the theft of said tablet rather than people using it for other purposes. If it was in a case, you could tether it down physically as well.

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    15. Re:DNS Hijacking by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      I can remember in the early 90s at the big chain stores they would all be running demo software where the keyboard didnt work unless you knew the magic code... what was it? ctrl.alt.del and the machines were never password protected. So much fun setting up screen savers to mess with them.

      But if its a droid based tablet root with titanium backup you can remove most all programs from the device except those you want.

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    16. Re:DNS Hijacking by Richard_at_work · · Score: 2

      That's what I did with a restaurants self-ordering system recently - two iPads, a pinned web app and a secure fixed case which covered all buttons. Not yet had an issue.

    17. Re:DNS Hijacking by julesh · · Score: 1

      You can't lock the tablet into a single application without modifying the operating system

      Not entirely true. Android, for example, sends a broadcast message whenever the user attempts to switch to the launcher (which is to say, whenever they try to switch away from the current application). You can intercept this and bring your application back to foreground, or restart it if it has exited.

  2. easy. by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Easy if the tablet runs Windows or Linux. Much harder on other platforms. Maybe you should narrow the problem domain.

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    1. Re:easy. by jessecurry · · Score: 4, Funny

      Stop being so reasonable!

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    2. Re:easy. by networkBoy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Since they could run other apps on the tablet even if you trap all HTTP requests, first step is to root the tablet and uninstall everything else, then make the browser autostart. Password protect anything you don't uninstall.
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    3. Re:easy. by bragr · · Score: 2

      This pretty much. Unless you want to get down and dirty in Cyanogenmod or some other Android community release (and your tablets run Android), I don't know how you would do it. You might try stripping out everything you can from the tablet, locking down what you can with security and parent control settings, setting up a wireless network that doesn't hand out a gateway with DHCP, or doesn't even have an internet connection, would get you close to you want. Still won't keep people from exiting the browser and bumping around the system.

    4. Re:easy. by Spiridios · · Score: 5, Informative

      Bruce Schneier linked to this post on iPads just a few days ago....

    5. Re:easy. by markkezner · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Still won't keep people from exiting the browser and bumping around the system.

      Well, if it's an Android tablet you could just create an app that acts as a replacement home screen. Just implement the appropriate intent and display a browser control to the user.

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    6. Re:easy. by chromeronin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, I think the technology he is looking fore here is called a pamphlet, or maybe a DVD player hooked to a tv on a loop.

    7. Re:easy. by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      If the unit runs Android or iOS, it's trivial to jailbreak/root and delete or move the built-in applications.

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    8. Re:easy. by bragr · · Score: 2

      But unless you are already up and running with Android development, that is kinda non trivial. And this question reeks of management coming to the IT department with a stack of tablets and saying, "Here, do magic, and we need this done by next Wednesday." Which usually rules out non-trivial development.

    9. Re:easy. by afidel · · Score: 4, Informative

      Or just install a password protected launcher, much easier than trying to figure out what you can and can't uninstall.

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    10. Re:easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doesnt even have to be a tablet, I touch screen monitor mounted at the desk with the computer somewhere else.

    11. Re:easy. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

      Easy if the tablet runs Windows or Linux

      Yeah, just deploy the tablet without a window manager. Make your viewer run full-size on the root window.

      I did something like this at a hospital c. 1996. It was pre-802.11 and the hardware was a Vadem Clio, but essentially one the connection got through to the VNC Server, the problem is the same.

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    12. Re:easy. by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      That works precisely as long as it takes someone to figure out how to boot into safe mode or some other such thing, and bypass the fancy launcher.

      Though at that point they are clearly behaving maliciously, and I don't see why this policy problem has to be solved with technology.

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    13. Re:easy. by shilly · · Score: 1

      That is a properly useful post you've linked to! As he says, he provides a method that should be good enough -- it won't prevent all conceivable attacks, but it will certainly make it very tough for a typical attacker to succeed.

    14. Re:easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's not trying to get the Amish to quit smoking. Besides, he has a huge budget to justify. Your solution is unreasonable.

    15. Re:easy. by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      Yup. A customized version of chrome OS might be a good solution. Just have it auto-login as a guest and whitelist sites by IP. A hardened linux might also be a good choice - as somebody else suggested you don't need a window manager / desktop environment to run a browser.

    16. Re:easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe you should specify you easy solution?

    17. Re:easy. by ewanm89 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, removing Carrier IQ is real trivial without flashing custom ROMS (sarcasm for the nerds here that don't recognize it), you know what an android jailbreak/root actually entails? And it's not trivial on all models. But the real problem is one has to lock it back down after setting it up with the single browser application that it launches straight to instead of homescreen. While possible, it's non trivial without knowing quite a bit about what android is doing behind the scenes, and I mean more than just activity's, services and intents.

    18. Re:easy. by cob666 · · Score: 1

      This is EXACTLY what the kiosk mode in Internet Explorer is for.

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    19. Re:easy. by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 1

      Solving problems like these with technology is because users poke their noses where they don't belong because they think it is "their" device and when they break it, the IT department gets a bad name for supplying the users with "that crap" and the IT department has to fix it asap.

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    20. Re:easy. by afidel · · Score: 1

      I was assuming Android, but even on Windows you need the local admin password to login to safe mode so a user would have no way to bypass the launcher.

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    21. Re:easy. by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Presumably he wouldn't buy a tablet that was difficult to root.

      And he doesn't need to lock it down too hard - after all, the user will have physical access to the device. If anything goes awry you just restore it from backup.

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    22. Re:easy. by art123 · · Score: 1

      Wow. I just read "Digital Exams on the iPad" and it sounds like something Rube Goldberg would come up with if he was still alive.

      They go through a ton of trouble to use the iPad only to end up with a printout of a PDF.

      So why didn't they just use a printed test to being with?

      Talk about using technology for technology's sake alone.

    23. Re:easy. by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 1

      Precisely, in the schoolbuilding where I work I placed some PC's on a few floors behind a glass window so students could look up where they are supposed to go. The only interface they could use was a mouse, in kioskmode and by making sure there were no holes in the webpage that was presented to them they couldn't cause any trouble. Took 5 minutes to set up.

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    24. Re:easy. by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Well, I have an android 2.3 device, and all it takes to get to safe mode is to turn it on, and as soon as the logo comes up, hold volume down until boot is finished. No password required.

      Though this is likely something specific to this device, and not an android feature.

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    25. Re:easy. by honkycat · · Score: 1

      Interesting, but I have to point out that the alternative is using a xerox machine to make copies of the exam and handing out pencils at the door. Pretty sure that approach has fewer attack vectors, and doesn't involve suggestions like backing up the students tablets and installing a fresh image before the exam...

    26. Re:easy. by shilly · · Score: 1

      Legibility? To have an e-copy also? Didn't particularly sound more onerous than the normal security requirements of an institution to me. Ymmv

    27. Re:easy. by Fri13 · · Score: 1

      Well, it is not about operating system (like NT or Linux) but configuration.

      Everyone can on these days take a CyanogeMod supported tablet (or Smart Phone) and tailor the Android for it so that it has only a web browser application.

      And I think it is not so difficult to make that browser application to replace the launcher application so it is always running.

    28. Re:easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The obvious two options:

      - Pay a bucket of money to kiosk software vendors.
      - Go to a small dev on Android ( for example, https://market.android.com/details?id=marcone.toddlerlock ) that has already made software that locks out the home/volume keys. Moving it to use the browser instead shouldn't be to bothersome, so dropping a small bucket of money in their laps to encourage development should be fine.
      - Other solutions for other established mobile platforms will require hacking (not recommended for public facing devices) since they have tighter controls and do not allow for lockout type functions.

    29. Re:easy. by tverbeek · · Score: 1

      Sometimes stopping casual misuse is all you need. Not all "lock downs" require safeguarding the device against Anonymous, Stuxnet, and the Great Successor.

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    30. Re:easy. by julesh · · Score: 1

      That works precisely as long as it takes someone to figure out how to boot into safe mode or some other such thing, and bypass the fancy launcher.

      Most tablets I've seen have no safe mode. They typically have a recovery mode, but all that allows you to do is reflash the OS from the SD card. If you disable the SD reader, they will be able to achieve nothing with it without physically modifying the hardware. If they're willing to do that, all bets are off.

    31. Re:easy. by julesh · · Score: 1

      On Android it shouldn't even need a root. Just install a custom launcher app that will only launch the required application. There's even a sample in the SDK that you can use as a starting point.

    32. Re:easy. by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I just thought root and delete might be easier than making a custom launcher.

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    33. Re:easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Errr, stop being so reasonable?

    34. Re:easy. by julesh · · Score: 1

      I just thought root and delete might be easier than making a custom launcher.

      Probably not -- deleting the preinstalled apps requires making the nand-flash writable, which is usually a non-trivial operation and which varies from device to device. In some cases it is only viable with a custom OS build. A custom launcher that only launches a sngle predefined app is a 100 line application which will work on all devices.

  3. WAP Portal / VLAN by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Put it on a VLAN, and Make HTTP(S) Go straight to the web server and only the web server. There are portal WAPs that do just that. Securing the tablet from running anything else would be as easy as installing a custom version of CyanogenMod or similar. Heck even Apple might be able to make an iPad that did just that.

    I'd also tether the thing to the room, or it will walk away.

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  4. Curious... by interkin3tic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I do not have a solution to your problem. I am curious about the situation though. Is there a reason your organization wants this to be easy-to-steal-and-expensive tablets? Especially when there's the security policy. And you'll have to keep them charged too. Why not just a cheap laptop. Or a pamphlet and TV?

    I realize it's difficult to get people to stop smoking, but fancy technology isn't always the solution.

    1. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      interesting comment, I agree though

    2. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Is there a reason your organization wants this to be easy-to-steal-and-expensive tablets?

      The hospital management is being treated well by the tablet manufacturer, who would very much like this hospital to become the envy of the `non-tablet' hospitals. Plus, it's healthcare; they have money to burn.

    3. Re:Curious... by LeoDeSol · · Score: 2, Informative

      I do not have a solution to your problem. I am curious about the situation though. Is there a reason your organization wants this to be easy-to-steal-and-expensive tablets? Especially when there's the security policy. And you'll have to keep them charged too. Why not just a cheap laptop. Or a pamphlet and TV? I realize it's difficult to get people to stop smoking, but fancy technology isn't always the solution.

      I am curious about this too. I also work in IT and with several hospitals as customers. The IT staff in the hospitals I work with, small, medium, and large, all talk about things walking away from rooms, lobbies, etc. Surely there is a better solution, possibly more cost effective too... Besides, you will need to be able to recharge it anyway, so why not look for something that can be put on a table with a long core for recharge? If you can do that, then you could possibly look at touch screen media displays that access a media server hosting your videos. Viewer users use would then just be a touch screen display for the content (probably a lot cheaper, depending on media server and cabling install cost). This also keeps it off of the wifi... which from what I see in hospitals around here, the customer access devices on internal WiFi, the better...

    4. Re:Curious... by tompaulco · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Absolutely. The solutions is a cheap PC running windows, which can easily be configured to allow one and only one app to run at login, and to log off if the application is closed.
      Please stop using technology for the sake of technology to increase my already outrageous healthcare costs.

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    5. Re:Curious... by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Is there a reason your organization wants...easy-to-steal-and-expensive tablets?....Why not just a cheap laptop. Or a pamphlet and TV?

      Pamphlets are easy to steal also. I have 800 at home. Just for the hell of it.
           

    6. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See what http://www.divide.com/index.php have done for pointers. Not for their functionality but the fact that an app on the tablet/phone is taking over the whole screen and can only be locked out by extra steps.

    7. Re:Curious... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Ssshhhhh, wacky ideas like this keep us techies employed. Nix the sober reality talk, dude.

    8. Re:Curious... by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

      DOS 1.1 - one app at a time, done!

    9. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If the hospital management is being treated well by the tablet manufacturer, then why isn't the tablet manufacturer helping with a solution to lock down the tablet? Surely of anyone they should know best how to lock there own tablets down.

    10. Re:Curious... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      " Plus, it's healthcare; they have money to burn."

      Yet the bastards whine they are not paid enough...

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    11. Re:Curious... by timeOday · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Please stop using technology for the sake of technology to increase my already outrageous healthcare costs.

      On the other hand, the "cool-factor" might have a big positive impact on people bothering to actually watch the videos.

      Take it from advertisers, the most cheaply-produced message is not always the most cost-effective. They should know.

    12. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      generally speaking, the ones burning the money are not the ones complaining about the pay

    13. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      " Plus, it's healthcare; they have money to burn."

      Yet the bastards whine they are not paid enough...

      Don't confuse money that's available to be burnt with money that's available to pay said illegitimate children. I work in healthcare. We have a LOT of money available for goofy stuff like this that increases somebody's adoption of something electronic related to healthcare. It all comes from the federal government, and is earmarked for those specific types of projects. What we don't have is money to actually pay the people that provide healthcare service, in large part due to that same entity.

    14. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I do not have a solution to your problem. I am curious about the situation though. Is there a reason your organization wants this to be easy-to-steal-and-expensive tablets? Especially when there's the security policy. And you'll have to keep them charged too. Why not just a cheap laptop?

      Tablets are easier to keep sanitary than laptops.

    15. Re:Curious... by bgibby9 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Besides, you will need to be able to recharge it anyway, so why not look for something that can be put on a table with a long core for recharge?

      TBH I think the OHS people would shit themselves if they ran into tablets connected to long cords for recharging.

      I think the better idea is a kiosk which has more functionality, connected to power and is less likely to "walk away"

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    16. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      generally speaking, the ones burning the money are not the ones complaining about the pay

      That isn't limited to healthcare. Hell, that isn't even limited to work. That's life.

    17. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks you're sol helpful, I bet you changed his mind and I bet he's in a position to make this kind of decision. Thank you so much. You're so helpful and smart, we should nickname you helpfulmcsmartface.

    18. Re:Curious... by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      Let's see. Chances that a tablet running one app are less expensive than a PC running one app with a touch panel monitor?

    19. Re:Curious... by Mikachu · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't think that anyone debates how easy it is to steal a bunch of pamphlets. I think it's more about the price of losing a bunch of pamphlets versus losing a tablet.

    20. Re:Curious... by hey! · · Score: 3, Informative

      The hospital management is being treated well by the tablet manufacturer....

      Hmm. Since that narrows the universe of possibilities down to a single vendor, you should probably tell us what OS the vendor uses on the tablet, otherwise people will waste their time giving you advice you can't use.

      If you don't want to identify the vendor, and you can't tell us the OS without doing that, just say so. We'll pretend we don't know who you're talking about (although we will).

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    21. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Plus, it's healthcare; they have money to burn.

      Ahh, another "Only in America" quote...

    22. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't waste my money on windows licenses either

    23. Re:Curious... by cgenman · · Score: 2

      People are not going to pick up a kiosk. To be fair, they're not going to pick up a tablet either. The only real solution where people actually watch the video, would be to have it up and running on a wall, either VIA TV or projected. If you really needed to be "Web 2.0" ey about it, attach a camera and let people interact with a projection through motion. Or make a tabletop with a touchscreen, and have people interact with it that way.

      Or, and I'm sure everyone would hate this option, remove all of the magazines and newspapers from the waiting area, and just have the tablets on long tethers. Though, unless I'm mistaken, the reason the magazines are there is that they make everything go easier for the staff.

    24. Re:Curious... by SethJohnson · · Score: 1

      Healthcare doesn't have money to burn. The insurance companies have seen to that by erecting absurdly complex reimbursement obstacles. It can be so expensive to pursue these debts, that a lot just goes uncollected.

      Next time you need surgery, ask how much it would cost if you paid up front with cash. They'll drop thousands to avoid dealing with insurance.

    25. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      As a doctor I'd like to know where this money is because I'm not not seeing any of it, nor are my patients.

      Oh, thats right, the insurance parasites and admins need to take their cut.

      Posting as AC for obvious reasons.

    26. Re:Curious... by ktappe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Is there a reason your organization wants this to be easy-to-steal-and-expensive tablets?

      The hospital management is being treated well by the tablet manufacturer, who would very much like this hospital to become the envy of the `non-tablet' hospitals. Plus, it's healthcare; they have money to burn.

      The reason the tablet manufacturer is throwing money/product at the hospital is because they know they don't have the right solution but want you to shoehorn it in anyway. Sometimes free is not the best solution.

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    27. Re:Curious... by plover · · Score: 4, Funny

      Though, unless I'm mistaken, the reason the magazines are there is that they make everything go easier for the staff.

      Based on my son's past experiences with the Urgent Care clinic we use, the magazines there are already filled with easy-going staph.

      I almost want to snort their disinfecting foam after just walking through the place. The thought of even touching a waiting-room tablet makes my anti-bodies all tingly.

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    28. Re:Curious... by l810c · · Score: 1

      Those 800 pamphlets cost 62.5 cents each.

    29. Re:Curious... by flimflammer · · Score: 1

      Are they printed on gold?!

    30. Re:Curious... by Belial6 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Glass and plastic are going to hold a lot less disease than the couch you would be sitting on.

    31. Re:Curious... by Lotana · · Score: 1

      Of course! Why do you think anyone would take them then? Surely not for the garbage that is written on them!

    32. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's no good: linux doesn't run DOS

    33. Re:Curious... by tlhIngan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The hospital management is being treated well by the tablet manufacturer....

      Hmm. Since that narrows the universe of possibilities down to a single vendor, you should probably tell us what OS the vendor uses on the tablet, otherwise people will waste their time giving you advice you can't use.

      If you don't want to identify the vendor, and you can't tell us the OS without doing that, just say so. We'll pretend we don't know who you're talking about (although we will).

      Using utterly reasonable powers of deduction, we know the tablets are NOT iPads. First Apple hasn't really tried to court companies, and don't really have any sort of enterprise management system in place, according to everyone who's asked about iPhones, iPads and such in the workplace.

      Which means the OS in question is either Windows or Android. Since Windows would be utterly trivial to put into a kiosk mode (you don't even need a tablet to demo this) and there'll be a half-dozen ways to do it (probably writing a custom app hosting the IE COM control, for example), it's unlikely the question is about Windows.

      So most likely, it's Android.

    34. Re:Curious... by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      Sorry, TSR, for when you really need a sidekick.

    35. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      = Trash System & Reboot

    36. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Has anyone considered asking Amazon to make a special purpose Kindle for this? Should be fairly easy, and cheaper esp. in bulk... eliminates the charging problems... you could even see if they can make a video-version of the e-ink display... I know they haven't to date because of refresh rates, but if they were willing to try, I bet e-ink could be made fast enough for at least animations, if not full-blown videos, as long as you could refresh pixels on demand without having to do the whole display, or doing them in some specific order.

      It would probably have to be a very special-purpose Kindle...

    37. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Or, and I'm sure everyone would hate this option, remove all of the magazines and newspapers from the waiting area, ...."

      Be sure the videos shown are at least 2 years old like the magazines and you'll be OK.

      But more seriously, will the videos have audio?

      If some morons really are so bored to watch anti-smoking vids with audio, instead of standing at the front-door doing real smoking, the rest of the people won't bother using headsets with their phones and media players either.

      Please tell us which hospital this is, so that we don't go there by accident.

      PS. Unless people go there with a metal case that they can use to smuggle those tablets out without setting off any alarms, which will happen around day 2.

    38. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously not their own money - just the poor US populations health $$

    39. Re:Curious... by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

      Plus, it's healthcare; they have money to burn.

      Oh, spiffy.

    40. Re:Curious... by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      Pen-based windows tablets are already designed for the healthcare industry (cleanable, barcode scanning, impact-resistant, etc). We use some at work for accessing applications in labs where contamination issues are a concern.

      I'd say that touchscreen would beat a pen for just presenting videos. However, for getting work done I'm not convinced that this is the case. Pens aren't as nice as keyboards but they're pretty close to a mouse which means your existing UIs work reasonably well and you don't have to write all new tablet-oriented apps. You can still customize those parts of your workflow that are high-volume on tablets (bigger buttons, etc). If "work" is nothing more than reading emails and viewing powerpoint slides (ie you're a senior manager) then a touchscreen-based tablet is right up your alley, which is why every senior executive out there is wondering why their favorite tablet hasn't taken over their company yet.

    41. Re:Curious... by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      Next time you need surgery, ask how much it would cost if you paid up front with cash. They'll drop thousands to avoid dealing with insurance.

      They'll drop thousands off of a price that nobody actually pays. You'll probably pay more in cash than any insurance company would ever pay.

      I've paid for some serious surgery bills. They usually read like this:
      Hospital bill - $100k. Insurance pays $9k, patient pays $1k, rest is written off.

      If you wheel and deal on your own chances are the hospital will give you a "great deal" and you'll just pay $20k out of pocket, and then tell your friends about how much money everybody would save if there were no insurance.

      My local blood testing lab has just started quoting an "estimated patient financial responsibility" and asking you if you want to pay that by credit card or check. The correct answer is "just bill me" - chances are that $100 that they'd bill you for up-front will turn into $27 paid by insurance and $3 paid by you. If you pay up-front good luck trying to get the other $97 back.

      If I were running for president my first proposed reform (that I can't see ANYBODY that isn't a company arguing with) would be to require every healthcare provider to publish a catalog (which anybody can aggregate) listing their prices for every service/ICD/etc, and that EVERYBODY whether an individual or a company pays that same price. Overnight people without insurance gets charged a fair rate, and anybody looking for discretionary care can find the best price. US News can also publish their annual best hospital deals article or whatever. If you have three hospitals in your area you can keep track of who has the overall best rates so that you know which one to tell your ambulance driver to take you to. Oh, that wouldn't be the last reform I'd try to enact, but it is a complete no-brainer.

    42. Re:Curious... by FaxeTheCat · · Score: 1

      I think your question is spot on.
      These days media players are built into TVs. Create a video with the content, copy it to a USB stick and set it on infinite loop.
      Cheap and simple.

      Of course, if they do not want cheap and simple, then tablets are fine... while they last...

    43. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your son already has staph. The staph on hospital magazines that you come into contact with is more like a family reunion than a colonization.

      I know your child is a beautiful, sterile angel to you. But he really isn't, and he shouldn't be.

    44. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My thoughts exactly!

    45. Re:Curious... by jon3k · · Score: 1

      What they want is to have the hospital sit these in their waiting room which is full of a captive audience all day, which is essentially having the tablet promoted by the hospital (by virtue of the hospital seemingly buying them, even though they're free). Then it's sold to the hospital as a 'favor" when really they're just turning the patient waiting room into a tablet showroom floor.

    46. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure this will be totally remedied by the new medical device taxes. The feds will take a % of the income on all medical devices as tax. That's not the profit but an actual portion of the income making all medical devices more expensive for everyone. I'm quite certain though that they're going to use this money to lower our healthcare costs rather than spending it on more programs to buy iPads for waiting rooms.

    47. Re:Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Healthcare doesn't have money to burn. The insurance companies have seen to that by erecting absurdly complex reimbursement obstacles. It can be so expensive to pursue these debts, that a lot just goes uncollected.

      Next time you need surgery, ask how much it would cost if you paid up front with cash. They'll drop thousands to avoid dealing with insurance.

      That's actually not true in my personal experience. The insurance company gets a lower rate than the uninsured consumer, presumably because they are a "bulk buyer." In fact, if I get medical care that is not covered by my insurance and say I'm uninsured, I am charged more than If I provide them with an insurance card. Even though I eventually pay bill myself.

    48. Re:Curious... by Kalriath · · Score: 1

      Least buggy Microsoft product ever.

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    49. Re:Curious... by Kalriath · · Score: 1

      So basically. it won't happen then?

      Amazon makes Kindles for one reason - to sell Kindle books. If there's no chance of selling Kindle books, then there's no reason for Amazon to be interested. So they wont be willing to try. In fact, they wont be willing to talk to you. Your idea is the most ill-thought out idea I've seen in a long time.

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    50. Re:Curious... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Probably because they purchased DOS from outside.

  5. Proxy & Jailbreak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Force the use of a proxy server for all web traffic on these tablets and jailbreak them putting on only the browser and no installer.

  6. On Android, replace the launcher app by Suddenly_Dead · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If using Android: create a replacement launcher app, set your new app as the default launcher, and... profit?

    1. Re:On Android, replace the launcher app by Suddenly_Dead · · Score: 1

      I guess that would probably only work on something less than 3.0, though, since they've added a shortcut on the status bar to launch the Settings app.

      But then, why would you need something on a new version of the OS? Cheap Chinese tablets running 2.2 or 2.3 can be had for = $100.

    2. Re:On Android, replace the launcher app by Torp · · Score: 1

      Yup. Create a replacement launcher (it's just a matter of a line in AndroidManifest.xml) and for good measure root the device and delete the default one :)

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    3. Re:On Android, replace the launcher app by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you roll your own ROM, you could just remove the Settings app, and anything else you don't want.

      Here's a sample for an app that registers itself as Launcher/home screen: http://developer.android.com/resources/samples/Home/index.html

    4. Re:On Android, replace the launcher app by Suddenly_Dead · · Score: 1

      Actually, wouldn't it be possible to delete the app if you just have root? I'll admit to not having tried it ;)

      Or you could rename it, then hide it behind a password in your custom launcher (unless the settings button doesn't target a specific app, but an action that happens to be registered to Settings)

    5. Re:On Android, replace the launcher app by julesh · · Score: 1

      I guess that would probably only work on something less than 3.0, though, since they've added a shortcut on the status bar to launch the Settings app.

      I don't have a honeycomb/ICS device to try this on, but wouldn't

      public boolean onKeyDown (int keyCode, KeyEvent event) {
          if (keyCode == KEYCODE_SETTINGS) return true;
          return false;
      }

      cause this button to stop working?

    6. Re:On Android, replace the launcher app by Suddenly_Dead · · Score: 1

      Not if you're not in the launcher, no?

  7. If you must use Android by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just roll your own AOSP build that only has /system/app/Browser.apk along with essential system UI apks and include none of the networking drivers that the device needs.

    1. Re:If you must use Android by AlienIntelligence · · Score: 3, Informative

      Just roll your own AOSP build that only has /system/app/Browser.apk along with essential system UI apks and include none of the networking drivers that the device needs.

      Seconded, why are "the answers" at 0?

      -AI

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    2. Re:If you must use Android by Lotana · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because these discussions are much like talking to whining women: They are not looking for answers, but just to have your attention and sympathy.

    3. Re:If you must use Android by Asic+Eng · · Score: 1

      Slashdot is a discussion site. People come here to discuss aspects of the topic *they* are interested in. If that helps the "anonymous reader", that's fine - but none of the Slashdot posters owe him anything. If they would rather talk about why he chose the wrong approach he'll just have to live with it.

  8. App Locker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Subject says it all.

    Lock out everything but that needed to run. Plus, you can unlock it to upgrade the browser when needed.

  9. I think by M0j0_j0j0 · · Score: 2

    You have a bigger problem there, how do you keep them from being stolen, add to that topic some phone home theft software too, want to inspire people to stop smoking? get a terminal lung cancer patient in the waiting room. wont fail.

    1. Re:I think by Andy_R · · Score: 2

      The solution to this is part of the solution to making the device only run 1 app - you put it in a locked metal frame that both secures the device and physically obstructs any switch or button that could be used to exit your app.

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    2. Re:I think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and might be cheaper...

    3. Re:I think by jimmydevice · · Score: 1

      Most sick, emaciated cancer patients won't spend their last breath as a cautionary statement to others.
      Yul Brynner excepted.

    4. Re:I think by BasilBrush · · Score: 2

      Some (at least) tablet OSs have app switching multitouch gestures.

      The real answer is use a kiosk. Or to do it on the cheap, put a PC on a table.

  10. Why bother with a tablet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I mean seriously - the first time someone thinks they can walk out the door with the tablet, it's gone. Don't think it wouldn't happen.

    Why not instead just make a dvd with those videos and print out the text of the websites? You could have a small tv hooked up to a dvd player, have the dvd available to those interested, etc....

    It wouldn't be as convenient to steal, and it is a technically easier way to set something like this up. Why are you going to such great lengths to make something more complicated than necessary?

  11. Use something with better coverage by Brew+Bird · · Score: 4, Informative

    You need digital signage, not a tablet. Only one person at a time can use a tablet. A couple of flat screens off a cheap PC hidden up in the ceiling or a closet, and use Xibo.

    1. Re:Use something with better coverage by anubi · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That sounds just like a job long ago for a restauranteur.

      He wanted one of those hi-tech looking displays showing his food, menus, and prices. He had the "high tech display": his projection TV.

      What he ended up with was his old PC-AT home computer yanked from a pile in his garage and loaded with a bunch of GIF's and JPG's he created to his heart's content on his nicer home computer. Loaded all the images he wanted to display in a subdirectory, along with a DOS slideshow program. A little edit of Autoexec.bat and config.sys, and every time the computer was turned on, all it knew to do was start the slideshow and run it until power was turned off at the end of the day.

      It was a no-brainer being he plugged the whole shebang into his beer-sign lighting circuit. There was no change to the routine for his help in opening shop for business. When they turned on the beer-sign circuit as usual, his "high tech display" would start up and run until they turned off the beersign lights at the end of the day.


      He was aware of the limitations of the system, so he made his images with that in mind. He could create anything he wanted for it to display, with no more intervention from me.

      He seemed happy enough. He was ready to toss it all anyway, and all it cost him was a dinner for me and my buddy.

      I wanted so bad to do something for a '50s style diner in my area to retrofit those table-controlled jukeboxes as a serial terminal so I could queue up .MP3 requests for a DOS MP3 player, but the owner had other vendors in mind.

      That would have been fun, as I wanted to keep all the old vacuum tube amplifiers running, and even the record selector, but what would actually go through the system would be a MP3, not what was coming off the tone arm... the spinning record being "played" would be just for show. It would not make any difference at all what 45rpm record was in the slot... its just there for people to reminisce seeing things behave and hearing that 120Hz hum in it, just like it did when they, like I, was a kid.

      I could rip all the MP3's I needed because he already had licenses from all the copyright people to play copyrighted music in his place. So I could load up the machine with anything. I thought it would be a nice touch if he kept his customer's favorites on the machine, as well as honoring requests. I even have an old mechanical typewriter so I could make more of those tags for the table units so they still looked like they came from the '50s.

      Boy, did I ever date myself with this post.

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      "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]

    2. Re:Use something with better coverage by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      Thanks, I just put on a Chordettes song :)

    3. Re:Use something with better coverage by anubi · · Score: 1

      Ah, Mr. Sandman, bring me a dream....

      That would be very welcome...

      Boy does that old music ever bring back some happy times in my life.

      I thought it would be soooo cool for us old fogies to queue up our favorites at the table while dining, or even bring in our favorites being the place was already licensed anyway, and would not face the wrath of the mafiaa.

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  12. mediakiosk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you are using iPad, there is an app called MediaKiosk. This is used with metal kiosk housings that prevent the 'home' button from being pushed and will allow the charge cable to always be connected. Not really helpful for portable.

    1. Re:mediakiosk by BasilBrush · · Score: 2

      Does it manage to overcome the multitouch app switching gestures built in to iOS 5?

    2. Re:mediakiosk by BasilBrush · · Score: 2

      To answer my own question, you can turn off multitasking gestures in the OS Settings app.

  13. Operating System? by agent_vee · · Score: 5, Informative

    Without knowing what Tablet OS you are targeting it is difficult to give you advice. You can just search on google for the terms "kiosk mode" + whatever OS and that should give you what you are looking for.

  14. Proxy and case by billDCat · · Score: 2

    A couple of options. One, you could probably bundle the files up into an app like one created using PhoneGap, which would make everything local. Two, you could set the proxy setting to point to a server that you control, that will direct you only to an internal web server that you control. Regardless of how you do it, you will need to physically block the power and home buttons, and for non-iPad tablets, any other button that might take you home like the back button with something like a lockable case. Seems silly to block the internet, though, considering how many people in that waiting room are going to be browsing with their iPhones anyways.

  15. Disgusting! I wouldn't Touch That Thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    This seems like a terrible idea! People in a hospital are going to be smearing their fingers all over this device, and passing it around. It seems to be a very convenient disease vector. I would not touch it with a 20 foot pole.

    1. Re:Disgusting! I wouldn't Touch That Thing by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2

      This seems like a terrible idea! People in a hospital are going to be smearing their fingers all over this device, and passing it around. It seems to be a very convenient disease vector. I would not touch it with a 20 foot pole.

      Don't worry, 20 foot poles aren't very common in waiting rooms, therefore it's unlikely that you'll touch it with one.

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      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    2. Re:Disgusting! I wouldn't Touch That Thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this++

    3. Re:Disgusting! I wouldn't Touch That Thing by BasilBrush · · Score: 2

      The thing with touch screen is that it's obvious they are filled with grease from fingertips and mucous from sneezing. So it might actually get wiped down once in a while.

      But remember, ever other surface you touch is going to be similarly filthy, and because it isn't so obvious, it's probably not going to get cleaned as often.

    4. Re:Disgusting! I wouldn't Touch That Thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not any worse than the magazines. Some people lick their finger every time they turn a page.
      Off topic: reading the latest Newsweek at a doctor's office yesterday, I noticed that the
      editor has done away with using an asterisk in various crude words.

  16. how about searching for android/ipad kiosk mode by HockeyPuck · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:how about searching for android/ipad kiosk mode by complete+loony · · Score: 2

      On android you can also open an activity in front of the lock screen, or just replace it. So you could have your application appear immediately when the screen turns on, and build a password-ish way of getting to the underlying android OS.

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    2. Re:how about searching for android/ipad kiosk mode by stephanruby · · Score: 2

      Aside from looking for the keywords "kiosk-mode" when searching for a solution tailored to the OS you have in mind, I'd suggest you revisit this entire tablet idea in the first place. Your tablet will most likely be locked down to some heavy furniture for security reasons, so what is the point of making it an expensive fragile tablet anyway. Also, it will require headsets unless you want to bother all the employees and fellow patients with the sound of those videos.

      If I were you, I'd make a real kiosk and I'd place an old television and VCR in it, with a couple of directional speakers (like what they use in museums). And I'd place the kiosk outside in a location where all the patient smokers actually go to smoke a cigarette. My mother does that, she smokes a cigarette before she enters an hospital, and she smokes one as soon as she gets out of one.

      If there are no obvious central locations for visiting smokers to congregate, I'd suggest you create one or two first and actually make sure that those areas get used by real smokers that frequent your medical center (before you start investing too much energy in placing kiosks at those locations). The worst thing you can have is a designated area for smokers that nobody actually uses, despite the fact that everybody continues on smoking anyway near the entrance and exits of your Medical Center.

      In any case, this was just an idea. I realize you're only the techie implementing this, not the guy making the actual decision, but I just thought I'd throw my half-baked idea in anyway.

    3. Re:how about searching for android/ipad kiosk mode by jimmydevice · · Score: 1

      Best idea yet to target smoking areas. And set volume to painful level so they can't get out of earshot.
      /Smoker, Likes to torture others.

    4. Re:how about searching for android/ipad kiosk mode by stephanruby · · Score: 2

      Yes, I realize you're kidding to an extent, but the entire point of this exercise would be not to antagonize those people you're trying to help quit smoking.

      If you make the videos too annoying, or the designated area(s) too annoying, the kiosk will get vandalized in no time, the area(s) will get avoided and ignored by your target audience. Or may be worse, those people your'e trying to help may get so annoyed -- they'll light up more cigarettes than usual just and they'll make it a point of pride to combat the program you've set up for them.

  17. Some type of rooted Android tablet... by alostpacket · · Score: 1

    ... should do the trick. Preferably one without any hardware buttons (other than volume/power).

    In the app you can already disable the back button and menu button. The trick will be removing the Home button, Task Switcher button and notifications.

    Now that Honeycomb/ICS source is available you should be able to find where they have the "fullscreen" code. This code is designed so that an app like YouTube can go full-screen -- but, once the user touches the screen, the soft buttons will return.

    Hardware manufacturers can also set a flag to enable or disable the soft keys, so you may be able to find this flag and just turn off the keys.

    All of this wouldn't prevent a user from booting into recovery or some such, but should provide a decently predictable experience for informational videos and whatnot.

    The one part I'm not so sure on is how to disable notifications. Hopefully this will help though.

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  18. applock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    on Android there is an app called APPLOCK you can use to lock down apps you don;t want people to have access to.

  19. Chrome/ChromiumOS by micheas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os

    The only app that runs is the browser, it is based on gentoo so you can install pam modules to meet your site requirements needs (ldap, kerberos, etc),

    And it is designed so you can easily force an enterprise wide os refresh whenever you need/want.

    1. Re:Chrome/ChromiumOS by AwesomeMcgee · · Score: 1

      Thanks for finally posting this! I can't believe slashdot had to go this far down before someone mentioned chromium... Just compile the kernel for it with no network connectivity, no usb support, or any other attachable plugs the tablet has on it, and put the HTML files/videos or whatever on the local drive and have all links written in relative pathing. HTML 5 in chromium should mitigate the need for any extra modules just to have an interactive interface with video and audio. Make the drive mounted read-only, and ensure default login has access only to the files to be viewed in the browser.

  20. Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I assume the tablet will be cemented / bolted to something. Otherwise it would be ripe for easy theft.

    So.... if it's bolted down anyway, why not just use a touchscreen computer, which opens up the "lockability" options a lot more.

    That said, there are plenty of MDMs (Mobile Device Managers) that give you lock-down policy capabilities for Android - almost certainly your least expensive tablet option. Google "Android MDM" and you'll see a bunch of options out there.

    If your employer is extra cheap you COULD potentially tap the Android API directly to manage a device but that is a lot of heavy lifting to accomplish something relatively simple.

  21. chmod a-rwx by deragon · · Score: 1

    Really not an expert in Android so I am just throwing ideas here.

    Since Android is based on Linux, chmod a-rwx would be an easy staring point. If the application cannot be read and executed, it cannot be started.

    Better, erase the unwanted apps with 'rm' and keep only the one you want, the browser.

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    1. Re:chmod a-rwx by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really not an expert in Android

      Shoulda stopped your mental train at that station...

    2. Re:chmod a-rwx by lucm · · Score: 1

      Really not an expert in Android so I am just throwing ideas here.

      Since Android is based on Linux, chmod a-rwx would be an easy staring point. If the application cannot be read and executed, it cannot be started.

      Better, erase the unwanted apps with 'rm' and keep only the one you want, the browser.

      I looked on the AppStore and did not find neither chmod or rm, however there is a new Angry Birds

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    3. Re:chmod a-rwx by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Both are under the BusyBox app....
      But I'll check that new Angry Birds.

  22. More info needed by sheddd · · Score: 1

    I would be helpful to know what OS the thing is running :)

    1. Re:More info needed by Salpula · · Score: 1

      He didn't say it was apple. TL/DR Its Android. Well, I guess it could be WebOS. lol

  23. KISS You're missing one thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ... I walk out of the waiting room with the tablet in my jacket

    1. Re:KISS You're missing one thing... by lucm · · Score: 1

      ... I walk out of the waiting room with the tablet in my jacket

      maybe you are the one who missed something (I mean: the 50 persons who made that same comment before you)

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      lucm, indeed.
    2. Re:KISS You're missing one thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately, you forgot that this particular waiting room happens to be in a prison infirmary. You don't make it very far.

      The article doesn't actually say that, but it's possible physical security isn't really an issue for one reason or another.

  24. iPad? by Kantara · · Score: 1

    The closest you could get on an iPad is with 10.7 server w/ Profile Manager. You could remove the vast majority of the standard apps and force down Full Screen web clips that you could even change on the fly for all your devices. You could even set the devices to connect to specific wireless connections even with WPA Passwords. The only down side is some access to 'Settings'.

    1. Re:iPad? by Fnord666 · · Score: 1

      The closest you could get on an iPad is with 10.7 server w/ Profile Manager.

      I think this would be a better solution.

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  25. We build a similar solution by ozkaanix · · Score: 2

    Using linux on a omap3230 with a zendframework php app that gets a db loaded with data, mysql..., serving over lighttp to a local browser firefox. The syncing can be done either through a usb stick or local network through a sync server... We served thousands of patients at their home through their platforms. Hope it helps

  26. Posters on the wall by Kittenman · · Score: 1
    Seriously ... how will the people know to pick up the tablet? Answer - there'll be a poster or something. So, just user the poster to carry the message, and forget the tablet.

    Come to think of it, people at a doctors get enough tablets anyhow.

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    1. Re:Posters on the wall by Asic+Eng · · Score: 1

      Well the idea is that people will sit there, see the thing and think "hey cool, what is this" and that that will get them to watch the video. The idea itself is not bad, but of course they'll quickly notice that nothing at all works on the tablet and that they are just watching a boring video. It would be better if it was an app, letting them interact with the tablet interface - which is fun.

      Of course there is still the problem of people stealing or breaking the things, and playing sound in the waiting room is an annoyance to everybody else around.

  27. LCD Digitial Frame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The solution that you want may fully well exist without having to reinvent the wheel.

    Is there any reason you can not use a LCD picture frame?

    I don't know how well they deal with video but I suspect that you can put a good a presentation using stills on one of those.

  28. Hijack the Home by fbellag · · Score: 1

    If you are using android devices, you can create an app that publicizes itself as a Home Screen replacement. Then you set that as your default app and you have a kiosk on your tablet.

  29. Options: Offline or Kiosk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    -= Offline =-
    Instead of web pages, just have interactive books and videos loaded on the device. You'd need a central desktop configured to update/charge the devices (using a bunch of USB ports). Using SL4A scripts and whatever language you prefer, automate.

    -= Kiosk =-
    Simply create a web application without a browser title set only to your internal server. Then run the app in kiosk mode.
    http://www.basic4ppc.com/forum/basic4android-getting-started-tutorials/10839-android-kiosk-mode-tutorial.html

  30. If i were you... by pjr.cc · · Score: 1

    I'd pick the cheapest tablet you can get (that'll support your content), then farm off the app coding to one of the many freelancing sites to do what you need..

    tbh, this is a pretty simple thing to do on android - completely locking a tablet isnt hard, and completely locking the content isnt hard either. You could then have various external mechanisms for unlocking them again (via bluetooth, wifi, usb, etc).. as an android coder, i wouldnt think this would take more then a couple of hours personally.

    If your determined to do it yourself, stackoverflow is a good place to start looking for ideas on how its achieved.

    1. Re:If i were you... by pjr.cc · · Score: 1

      actually, just to reply to my own post... if i were doing this, what i would do is have an app that locked the tablet to only itself (pretty simple), then have a hard coded set of settings for wifi access and a content server it connected to (all provided by the application)... from the content server i would be able to then unlock the tablet, but to be safe, i'd also add a key combo that unlocked it too (like vol up, vol up, vol down, power power, etc, something complex).

  31. Imagineering: by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just paint a black frame around some rectangular mirrors and put a big reversed brochure printout on the ceiling. Nobody will know the diff and you can keep the real tablets for yourself. (My experience at AOL is paying off.)

    1. Re:Imagineering: by lucm · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just paint a black frame around some rectangular mirrors and put a big reversed brochure printout on the ceiling. Nobody will know the diff and you can keep the real tablets for yourself. (My experience at AOL is paying off.)

      Brilliant! This has the side benefit of making the waiting room a very convenient place to snort coke! (my experience on Wall Street is paying off too!)

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    2. Re:Imagineering: by iamnobody2 · · Score: 1

      ooh i love snorting coke in the waiting room, it helps me be patient

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    3. Re:Imagineering: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rectangular.... a frame around it.... sounds a little too similar to the iPad. You should probably check with the USPTO first.

    4. Re:Imagineering: by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      And you can't snort coke off iPads? New app idea: "iSnort - Do it without actually inhaling." Or the "iClinton" perhaps.

    5. Re:Imagineering: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    6. Re:Imagineering: by allo · · Score: 1

      and next: iRobot

  32. Parental restrictions in iOS do this already by lethe1001 · · Score: 4, Informative

    iOS has parental restrictions. Enable restrictions, enable Safari, leave everything else disabled. No step 3.

    1. Re:Parental restrictions in iOS do this already by lucm · · Score: 2

      iOS has parental restrictions. Enable restrictions, enable Safari, leave everything else disabled. No step 3.

      But how do you get the parents of each patient to come down to the hospital to setup parental restrictions? That's the tricky part (especially if they are dead).

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  33. SiteKiosk - Android by librarygeek · · Score: 1

    Provisio has a beta of their new SiteKiosk product for android tablets. It looks like it might do what you are looking for.

    http://www.provisio.com/SiteKiosk/SiteKiosk_8_SiteKiosk_Android_beta.aspx

  34. Simple Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Root the tablet, then rename any links to all of the other apps. I did that on my fascinate to remove the vzw crap.

  35. A few suggestions by subreality · · Score: 2

    Easier: Buy a portable DVD player. Dirt cheap and does what you want. Less likely to get stolen. No software to break.

    If using a Linux tablet, just run X with no window manager and start a fullscreen browser. Google keywords: "Maximus", "Devilspie", "Firefox kiosk mode".

    If you're using Android or iOS, it looks like HockeyPuck has you covered above.

  36. or just a tv tuned / hooked to a pc runing slides by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    tablets seem out of place for a waiting room.

  37. Dont matter, they will all be gone in a week by bobjr94 · · Score: 2

    Leave a bunch of tablets laying around, even cheap ones, they will disappear pretty quickly. Who's going to round them up and charge them everynight ? BTW: I dont think getting the message out to stop smoking on tablets out will do anything. They know they have a problem, they wont sit their and watch ads and videos telling what they already know. You will just get 50 people a day asking how they can get into their facebook on this thing.

  38. Why a tablet?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Why not just a TV?!? Why a tablet?!?

    For the price of a tablet computer, you can get a 32" tv and a DVD player.

    AND you don't have to risk someone walking off with it.

    Geeze! No wonder healthcare is so goddamn expensive! Solving easy problems with the most expensive solutions.

  39. please check with... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) infection control - to get their sign off for the obvious reasons.
    2) housekeeping - to make sure they know it's not dish washer safe.

    just my two bits

  40. Apache, EngineX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can't figure out how to setup an HTTPD?

  41. Put it on its own subnet.... by SwedishChef · · Score: 1

    And give it a bogus default gateway.

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  42. Wireless or USB touch-monitor by Beardydog · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Tablets are generally designed to be resilient, and usable by the unskilled. For that reason, they can't usually be locked down like this, because the feature, in and of itself, is more technical than tablets are meant to be.

    I don't know much about Androids, but an iPad makes a good example. Can you hijack DNS on the your wifi network? Yes... but it's incredibly easy to join another wifi network that isn't redirected, and there are no User and Administrator type accounts to keep people from doing so.

    If you jailbreak an iPad, there is an extension you can install that locks it into a particular app (the browser, in this case). But getting around it involves, I think, nothing fancier than rebooting the device. You could modify the Hosts file on it to redirect no matter which network the user is on, as well... but a dedicated goof-off could always resort to direct DNS entry to cause mischief.

    I would try to find out if anyone sells a wireless display with touchscreen capabilities. That could be linked to a computer that's locked down at an arbitrary level, and would prevent users from engaging in the kinds of shennigans they get up to when they have access to function keys and Reset buttons. If users can use the ctrl key or reboot the machine, you -will- end up with porn on your browser.

    As a bonus, the device would be borderline useless to anyone who walks off with it and isn't fairly gadget-oriented, and you might be able to run several of them off of one host machine.

    If this exists, someone should let me know, because I've made made want one.

    If it doesn't you cold even use one of these:
    http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/c609/

    Wireless is great, but the real goal is just something hand-held that each person in the waiting room can have one of. Run some USB cables out to each end-table in the waiting room, and attach them to these. They're cheap, so have them stolen is less of an issue... unplugging them makes the, stop working, which makes them less immediately temping... they have no keyboard and no buttons that affect the actual computer behind the scenes... They're a perfect solution if you don't mind a few cables.

  43. What you need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Is a portable DVD player. Or better yet, a wall-mounted TV and a running video from whatever appliance you want in another room.

    Why use a tablet? Because you can?

    frep.

  44. Let 'em smoke. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Smokers pay taxes. Just make sure those taxes help subsidize healthcare for others, and while you're at it, deny them benefits based on their self abusive behavior. Win Win.

    That's they way healthcare is heading anyhow.

    1. Re:Let 'em smoke. by outsider007 · · Score: 0

      I'm losing patients with you.

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  45. HTTPS and certificates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It doesn't matter the OS or the web server. You want this only to be available to specific machines. So, you use https on the web server and certificates on the client machines to allow authentication under the client context.

    Unfortunately, I can only tell you how to do this on SharePoint.

  46. Did you even Google? by Dynedain · · Score: 5, Informative
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    1. Re:Did you even Google? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To add to this post..

      Use the Profile Manager in OS X Lion to manage the devices. You will be able to restrict everything from there. Or you can restrict each device via the Setting -> Restrictions manager.

  47. iPads are easy by st0nerhat · · Score: 2

    If you are using iPads, besides enabling parental controls, you might also want to prevent access to the home button. I've seen this done at a few well put together installations. A few pieces of plexi-glass and some silicone adhesive will do the trick. If you use some other opaque framing material, you can even make it look like you paid many more thousands of dollars for custom technology.

  48. wrong approach by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 2

    Wrong approach. People will walk off your tablets. Instead, have the users bring their own. Set up an open wireless connection that supplies the users with a captive DNS directing everything to your internal service that only serves up your content.

    Don't provide any other open connection. Then your crap shows up on everybody's ipad and android phone. Be prepared to fend off angry customers.

    But at least you save the cost and headache of managing all those tablets and don't have to.replace.them every week.

    1. Re:wrong approach by wmelnick · · Score: 1

      Wrong approach. People will walk off your tablets. Instead, have the users bring their own. Set up an open wireless connection that supplies the users with a captive DNS directing everything to your internal service that only serves up your content.

      Don't provide any other open connection. Then your crap shows up on everybody's ipad and android phone. Be prepared to fend off angry customers.

      But at least you save the cost and headache of managing all those tablets and don't have to.replace.them every week.

      Right, because that disables the 3G connection so well.

  49. Use a PlayBook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There aren't any apps for it anyway...

  50. A solution by errandum · · Score: 1

    Assuming Android:

    Well, your container application would override some of the keys (onBackButton for example) to do nothing, making it harder to leave the app. Or you could use key events (http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/KeyEvent.html) to have them fire an event when a key is pressed, that you'd have to configure to your liking. Your only problem would be the home button key, since it doesn't return any value when pressed.

    From what I gather from reading tidbits here and there ( http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2079691/overriding-the-home-button-how-do-i-get-rid-of-the-choice ) you'd have to make your app have an intent to be the launcher and make it the default launcher in the settings. Pressing the home key would just fire the app once again.

  51. Why not a live wall paper? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if its an android tablet couldn't you build a live wall paper? They can interact with the user. You would then be able to hide all the other buttons :)

  52. android digital signage device by jessepdx · · Score: 1

    this device is designed to do what you are asking http://www.i-display.com/products/i-view-Android/

  53. Funambol by certain+death · · Score: 2

    Go grab a copy of this - http://funambol.com/solutions/devicemanagement.php Setup the DM server and make it do your bidding! :o)

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  54. /. Disappoints by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot's credibility as a technical knowledge source is seriously compromised by these comments' lack of technical savvy + belittlement of a client's request for product development guidance on a rather simple effort; reflecting poorly on this technical community. And the reason I won't be returning.

  55. tablets make good ashtrays by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wanna bet it gets used as an ashtray by some sneaky smoker within the first 24 hours?

  56. Two things - WiFi, run the web client as the shell by garyebickford · · Score: 1

    I'm talking out my hat here, since I have not done anything with Android or iOS, but the following would work for any generic *nix.

    In Linux, BSD or any *nix (does iOS run a form of BSD, like Mac OSX does?), one can make any program the shell (the thing that comes up when you log in). So as soon as the tablet boots up, it will just be running the web client.

    The problem with that would be how much the web client needs the graphical user interface login. If it needs that, then you can make rsh or another restricted shell environment, which only allows the programs that you specify in a chrooted directory.

    There are probably some complications to getting such a thing set up right to run the embedded things, but I would presume that the Android (which supposedly has a Linux kernel) and possibly iPad tablets could be set up that way.

    Also, I think some versions of Linux have a 'kiosk' mode that does most or all of what you want.

    Then, to prevent going outside, configure the tablets to only work with a single WiFi access point, and that access point is connected to your data server, and that server is not connected to anything else. The user would have to login via an external boot loader or debugger to get around the OS and modify the WiFi configuration.

    You might want to have another application running in the background that screams bloody murder if the tablet gets out of range of the WiFi access point. Maybe something like 'beep ... beep ... Beep .. Beep .. Please return to the office ... BEEPBEEPBEEP HELP I'M BEING REMOVED FROM THE OFFICE!!!! HELP!! HELP!! HELP!! AIEEEE!!! '

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  57. Android can/could... by cynyr · · Score: 2

    Go take a look at the app "kid mode" for android. While not 100% security, if you make the "write here" zone small and out of the way enough, and make the patter harder than "Z", it aught to work well enough. Also you could modify ADW.Launcher or similar to only allow your app.

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  58. I've done this... by PhunkySchtuff · · Score: 1

    It was a kiosk style app to run on Android tablets - I had my programmer knock it up in a day.
    He built a basic wrapper for the regular Android browser.
    This app hid all the on-screen controls and went full screen. There was no address bar.
    It had a pre-configured URL that the browser went to, and auto-refreshed to after xx minutes of inactivity.
    There was a hidden way to get to the preferences where the URL could be changed.
    It also had the ability to load web pages off internal flash storage so it didn't need internet access.
    We also put in an auto-update feature so it could load replacement content off a USB stick that was inserted.

  59. Permission by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am working on a similar project. I was able to block out the rest of the tablet by setting a permission for full screen. This took over the entire screen, including the back and home buttons.

  60. if it's windows based... by holophrastic · · Score: 1

    change the shell from explorer.exe to your own application -- iexplore.exe would work, so would mshta, or your hta file. I think you can also make it an hta file.

    you can use .pac files to completely filter the internet by regular expression or any algorithm operating on the URL or filesystem, so you could wind up connecting to some internet sites if it becomes applicable.

    you don't need a local server, an hta will work cleaner, with all of jscript to access anything on the system, including the file system, the registry, peripherals, and any browser functions you could ever want.

    I did all this on wince five years ago, and on win 98 through 7.

  61. Re:or just a tv tuned / hooked to a pc runing slid by gandhi_2 · · Score: 2

    Not if you are a germ.

  62. John Kerry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    John Kerry, whichever way the wind blows.

  63. Wrong application for a tablet-use something cheap by netsavior · · Score: 3, Informative

    Why not use one of the cheap ass video players that sell for 80 bucks and can hold video and PDF documents and pretty much nothing else?

    My kids have these Coby knockoffs that they love and have no trouble using. They play video (in way more formats than most tablets) and PDF and picturse, and that's about it, no pesky browser or wireless networking to bother with. Best of all it isn't a 500 dollar item people will want to walk off with, and even if they do walk off with it, you are out 80 bucks instead of 500.

    Of course if what you are trying to do is show that you can throw thousands of dollars into the waiting room, that won't really accomplish what you are trying to do.

  64. Smart Lock by GodsMoon · · Score: 1

    I have written some software called Smart Lock Enterprise that locks down Android devices to just one or a few (white list) apps. It works great on tablets and is in several production environments. You can find the consumer version at https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nightshadelabs.smartlock.pro.free and you can contact me about a business version at david [at] nightshadelabs.com

    1. Re:Smart Lock by GodsMoon · · Score: 1

      I should have mentioned this. Smart Lock Enterprise has an Approved Browser built into it for webpage specific content. It displays approved websites (could be local content) but not other websites. In your case, even if someone put the tablet on the internet (via a hotspot or something) it would block all websites except the ones you have explicitly approved.

  65. Videolan with streaming. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Setup something similar using Videolan VLC on both the server and the client. Then, just lock the client down to videolan and a web page to select the videos.

  66. Just kill yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stop taking money from innocent people while you kill them. If you're doing any work on behalf of the medical industry then you are a cunt.

  67. Playbook in Demo mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BlackBerry Playbook comes with a demo mode wher it only plays a videoclip.

  68. This guy does not want a tablet.. by s0litaire · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...he wants a digital photo frame with Wifi

    and for security... unplug the dam server from the internet! if it's only serving local file then no bloooooody net access is required. ^_^

    Simples!!!

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  69. Re:Wrong application for a tablet-use something ch by evilviper · · Score: 1

    The battery life is impressive, but otherwise, android tablets really aren't significantly more expensive than this thing, and can certainly play any video format under the sun once you load the right player app.

    How about this one:
      http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005HUH88K/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1329192256&sr=8-1

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  70. DNS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Set up your own WiFi, have it set DNS to your own DNS server, and only provide DNS for the sites you want them to visit. Quick, simple, works with any device or OS. Not much they can do afterwards...

    (For additional security, block at the IP level, but not really worth the effort at that point.).

  71. Gnome 3 by fotoguzzi · · Score: 1

    I think the 'beauty to the bone' philosophy of Gnome 3 might be exactly what you are seeking. Maximal maximizing of windows means that it will effectively resemble a kiosk.

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  72. Depending on what your tablet is by guruevi · · Score: 1

    iPhone Configuration Utility (free, allows you to lock down pretty much any feature of your iDevice). I've seen at least one deployment where an iPod Touch is used for a museums guided audio tour (because those specific IR devices cost a shit-ton more than an iPod Touch).

    Android has similar options (paid)

    Windows devices have similar options (but you must deploy Active Directory, Windows Server (to run it), SQL Server (backend), Exchange (remote wipe and push the policy) and pay for CAL's for all those)

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  73. Nicotine-stained tablet touch-screens by kriston · · Score: 1

    Nicotine-stained tablet touch-screens are probably not something I'd want to touch, anyway.

    Has anyone yet honestly thought about the excessively non-sanitary aspect of publically-accessible, touch-screen tablets?

    Gross!!

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  74. Re:or just a tv tuned / hooked to a pc runing slid by l810c · · Score: 1

    Hilarious, but no kidding.

    My kids, wife and touch as little in possible in any waiting room. Only our own tablets/smartphones or other things we have brought in.

  75. cheap digital photo frames by pbjones · · Score: 1, Interesting

    buy them cheap digital frames and load the pics and movies onto SD cards? A search will show you cheap MP3 players that may be as good. not the best answer, sorry. I like the 'Delete all other app' and 'isolate your network', and have it all just point to a web server, like airports and Twin Golden Arches.

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  76. Why Is It? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is it when someone asks how to do something, everyone immediately tells him hes doing it wrong and should do something else. And then everyone says something different that he should do, 'use a windows box', 'use a dvd player', 'use paper', etc. That is not helpful at all.

    1. Re:Why Is It? by Molt · · Score: 1

      If everyone is immediately telling him he's doing it wrong then, possibly, he's doing it wrong? If everyone's able to suggest a different technology which is likely to work better than maybe the technology they're considering is one of the worst possibilities of those available?

      If they want a way to make this information readily available to patients in the waiting room then there're sensible ways to do this as people have said, and if they're after ways to use tablet technology to improve their patient's experience then there's good possibilities there too such as the medical staff being able to use the interactive tablet content during actual talks with the patient, or even just providing a source of entertainment for the patients whilst they are waiting (..assuming the tables don't carry too much lurgy to the patients, and the patients don't carry too many tablets home).

      This though is sounding too much like "I have a square peg and a round hole, what're your suggestions for getting it to be a good fit?". We could suggest various ways of trying to lock down a device (without knowing which OS it's running), but a lot of us feel that the end result would be less than useful anyway.

      In the end this is Ask Slashdot, asking a bunch of techs for their opinion on a technical question for free. You'll get answers, and generally these will be fairly honest when they're not bouncing off on happy tangents. What these will not do though is restrict themselves to the brief if the brief seems wrong, and if people want that type of answer then possibly hiring a "Yes Man" consultant would be a better way to move things on.

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  77. How to use a $200-$400 tablet to display one page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Print the pages.
    2. Put them in the waiting room.
    3. Give them tablets to people who know what to do with them.
    4. Resign because you're a spineless nonthinking idiot.

    Really? You want to task a TABLET with all its capibilities with displaying ONE web page?

    Kill yourself now and improve the race.

    M

  78. only one [] app... by borjonx · · Score: 1

    I did that recently with the Apple iPad[2]. I didn't want to have to root or buy anything extra - what I had to do is prevent access to the home & power buttons (we bought mounting cases). I created a web page that was "full screen-able" then directed Safari there, made a shortcut button to it on the home screen & then disabled (restricted) all the apps. Also disabled the "ask to join wifi when one is avail". etc. etc. Now there is no way to exit the Safari app and you can't access the URL bar so you can only visit URL's that are clickable. This was for a digital signage system. All it does is visit my slackware servers, and the media I've loaded to them.... https://sites.google.com/a/alaska.edu/digitalsigna/home/setup-instructions https://sites.google.com/a/alaska.edu/digitalsigna/ Let me know if there's anything I can do to help. Pat

  79. Adds new meaning to ... by DrJimbo · · Score: 2

    ... take two tablets and call me in the morning.

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  80. Ideas? Suggestions? by gronofer · · Score: 1

    Yeah, don't lock it down. Let the patients use it for random web browsing if they aren't interested in your videos. Waiting rooms can be extremely boring and not everybody has mobile net access.

  81. Physical security by grantek · · Score: 1

    I saw a demonstration at a car show where one of the manufacturers had an app on iPads that were mounted in perspex boxes. The home key was covered and inaccessible except through a pinhole, and that was "hard enough" to get around given they had staff in the area to keep an eye on people.

  82. On Android, write a service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On Android, write a service that is given permission to run on start up that iterates through the running activities, and brings the browser to the front if it is not the foreground app. If this is written so that it does it's processing in loop, the browser will never be able to be dismissed.

    eg.
    ActivityManager am = (ActivityManager)context.getSystemService(ACTIVITY_SERVICE);
    List taskInfo = am.getRunningTasks(20); // Get the foreground running tasks, 20 of them max
    for(int i=0; i 0)
        {
            ComponentName componentInfo = taskInfo.get(i).topActivity;
            if(!componentInfo.getClassName().contains("browser")) // This will need changing to match the name of the browser
            { // Launch browser; in effect, as apps are not closed, this will bring the browser to the front // Put an Intent here.
            }
        }
    }

  83. Solution looking for a problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a classic case of someone with a solution who is hunting to find a problem to apply it to.
    So a couple of points to address.

    First, all this is in reality is a waste of time and money. People will quit when they are ready, and not one minute sooner.
    Second, they don't want to sit and read some fearmongering propaganda about tobacco. If they're interested in a Quit Program, they would rather take some hardcopy literature home and just look it up online.
    Third, none of the smokers in the waiting room want something to remind them that they can't have a smoke right now, all it does is make them want to go light up.

    You want to improve the public health, that's great. So build a smoking room, put in some high quality air scrubbers, and hang a flatscreen TV on the wall with a looped playback of your cessastion program. Making the smokers stand outside in brutal weather conditions, next to the traffic which is spewing several orders of magnitude more of the same dangerous substances, is hardly in anybody's health interests.

  84. Already exist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tablets for this application are a bad idea -- too easy to steal. A better solution would be to have a monitor mounted to the wall with a tiny PC screwed to the back. Healthy Advice Network sells setups like this with whatever sort of messages you want.

  85. If it's an Android device.... by ScaredyCat · · Score: 1

    You could take a look at my app, Kiosk Browser SE ( https://market.android.com/details?id=it.automated.android.kiosk.se&feature=search_result ). Kiosk Browser SE will allow you to lock your Android tablet to a specific web site or group of sites preventing end users from escaping to the underlying operating system. You can develop your user interface using HTML, Javascript and CSS – You can even use WebKit based CSS transformations and animations. It also has the ability to load sties from local storage so you don't need to have a network connection. It can be configured via standard Android settings screens or, for larger roll outs, via an xml file stored on the device - this allows you to configure one device in the way you want and then generate the xml file to be copied to other devices. Sorry for the self-pimpage... ScaredyCat

  86. I really fould like to find x86 tablet by larppaxyz · · Score: 1

    I'm too looking for tablet that would run just HTML5/JS web applications. Browser autostart is must and system needs to be locked so that you can't easily get to undelaying operating system (when normally using application). We currently do this with stripped down Debian that simply starts X and Chrome (fullscreen, with some plugins).

    It works very well but now there is severe shortage of sub $500 x86 tablets. I'm trying to find tablet similar to ExoPC (or WeTab), but i have only found few POS 'superpads' that are very low quality (grayish plastic screen etc.). On the other side, there are many expensive indrustial type tablet, but they are too heavy and expensive.

    Our application could run on ARM tablet, but rooting and hacking Debian into easily available Android devices is too hackish. When i saw information about Linux tablet called Spark, i was excited until i noticed that it's just on of those useless 'superpads' from china (meaning, there is no 3G or 10.1" screen... or anything).

  87. OS X Server + iPad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OS X Lion Server’s Profile Manager is what you want. You can manage every detail of an OS X or iOS device with it: http://www.apple.com/support/lionserver/profilemanager/

  88. Phonegap + offline HTML5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about :
    Create the HTML, etc.
    Mash it together with phonegap into "native" offline app for your platform.
    Load the app
    disable wifi (erase all password info)

  89. Android Browser and Device Lockdown is possible by englishjohny73 · · Score: 1

    Use SureFox browser (Android version) to allow only certain websites. Access to any unapproved websites are blocked by the browser. There isn't even an address bar. You have to per-configure everything before the users can use the tablet. No need to mess with the network configuration. http://www.42gears.com/surefox/ Also look at SureLock to allow only SureFox as the allowed application. Users can't access any other applications or System Settings. http://www.42gears.com/surelock/

  90. Old school solution... by Anarchduke · · Score: 1

    For your situation, I recommend a tablet made of crushed wood pulp, which has been pressed into individual flat sheets. The technology is locked down and is probably a lot cheaper than your idea of tablets using ios or linux.

    Another plus for the old school approach is that when Timmy the Ten-year-old accidentally hits the corner of the device with his elbow and knocks it to the floor, you dont have to account for the loss of a two hundred dollar or more device.

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  91. Use windows or Linux on the tablet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And write the application on there. Don't use Android.

    That's all the specificity needed (and indeed possible) to implement this easy solution.

    Linux would be even easier than Windows, but that mostly due to the hardened nature of Linux and the ease of chrooting your system within the app, enabling an easier development and still retaining the security.

  92. Locked down iOS by mr100percent · · Score: 1

    Use the iPhone Configuration Utility (it works on iPads). Turn off all other extraneous apps and restrict the rest. There's several non-Safari browser apps that you can lock in Kiosk mode, use one of those.

  93. Fixated on tablets? by MikeB0Lton · · Score: 1

    Put your video on DVD and hand out portable DVD players. It'll be cheaper and more secure than a tablet+server solution.

  94. Single app Tablet Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Android tablet, Droid wall, and seal. Root the Android tablet. Install and configure Droid wall to only allow the browser to work via wifi. Install and configure seal to restrict access to the browser without a password.

  95. IncarcerApp by morgauxo · · Score: 1

    I use IncarcerApp to do this on my iPad. It is a Cydia App, it requires jailbreaking. What it does is you define some unlikely keypress combo (default volume up up down down or something like that). Then it can lock out the home button and/or optionally lock out all screen touches, sleep button, etc. What you would do is start the video then press the magic combo with it set to lock the screen touches, home and sleep buttons. Then unless someone can guess the combo they are stuck!

    I use this with my 2 y/o daughter.

  96. Oh but it might be an iPad app..... by managerialslime · · Score: 1

    we know the tablets are NOT iPads.

    So most likely, it's Android.

    In November of 2011, I visited a large physicians' practice located on the first floor of a major hospital in Center City, Philadelphia. They had chairs with bendable arms on one wall. On each arm, an iPad was securely mounted and permanently plugged into power. I think the power cables were securely wired to the chairs, arms, and iPads. Each iPad was securely affixed to the bendable arm. With regard to the cabling, I'm pretty sure the setup was compliant with OSHA rules. The iPads were used (among other things) for patients to fill out "New Patient Forms" and "Medical History." There may have been some other disclosures for some patients to read.

    Most of the users were elderly. Many of the people using the devices had never touched an iPad (and for some, I'm sure they had never touched a computer before). As this office seemed to be pretty much focused on people requiring drugs and/or surgery for severe spinal and joint conditions, more than a few of these users were in pain and/or medications and reduction of user confusion may a priority.

    With more than 50 people in the rest of the waiting room and about a dozen of the iPad chairs, there always seemed to be a physician's assistant close by to insure the iPad was only being used as intended. I can understand their desire to prevent unauthorized uses of the iPad as very personal information is being entered through these devices and potential for installation of monitoring software would make some people uncomfortable.

    Even without the paranoia factor, I can understand the desire keep these iPads locked down to a few icons just to reduce end-user support and related confusion.

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  97. Theft-safe working *nix solution, free of charge! by Sigg3.net · · Score: 2

    Auto-run an SSH session with credentials supplied and X forwarding to the machine serving the videos running a simple webpage in a webkit window. Have the script auto reload same window if closed.
    Naturally limit the user privileges and limit network abuse with MAC filtering.

    I'm kidding, but it could work:)

    That said, how to theft-safe the device? Glue it to the wall.

  98. Device Management by cfulton · · Score: 1

    I know that it is against /. policy to provide and answer that entails spending money but the solution to your problem is here: http://www.3lm.com/product.html To bad they will want to charge you for the product.

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  99. Old tabletop arcade. by Tyr07 · · Score: 1

    Take an old tabletop arcade game, one with controls below on each side, glass flat in the middle that's the screen.
    Replace with touch screen.
    Put in old cheap mobo etc.
    Load custom distro / windows base in kiosk mode - solved.

    You're only out the time to find the husk of the old arcade machine they were throwing out, the cost of the touch screen, a cheap computer and labor putting it together (software too)

    Tablet idea just seems...poor. When everyone has a small tablet on them and some sort of auto link function to services available near them, it might be handy for them then to have their own tablets link to that information but..yeah.

  100. See the wood through the trees! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    POINT 1 - You need to liase with management and be trasparent
    Speaking from experience, any custom stuff done on the NHS won't be appreciated... you need to go via management or everything that goes wrong will be your fault and clients will blame you personally (as you will be the only one that knows how it works). Annoying patients / clients (when a service stops working or becomes slow) will also annoy the managers. So just make sure you spend time on the paperwork so that it can be maintained by someone else. Then any good work you do won't get lost in the system - or ignored by management.

    POINT 2 - Use the tablets to record REAL life - no need to look for online videos to copy when you can make your own!
    Think about how these tablets will do a better job of convining smokers to stop... use the camera's to your advantage and go about cancer wards and hospitals interviewing the people that have issues becasue of smoking. After all we hear that so many thousands of people die because of it every year.

  101. Playbook is the answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Give them a Blackberry Playbook, they won't be able to figure out the multitasking (i.e. tapping the blackberry logo does not quit the app and there is no home button) and will be stuck in your app forever.

  102. If it's Android, Custom ROM by lastrogue · · Score: 1

    If it's an Android tablet, you can load it with a custom ROM for that device that has only the Browser as an application, you can strip everything else out.

  103. ummm... by Eponymous+Hero · · Score: 1

    wrap it in tin foil?

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  104. Suggestion . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Google Chromebook is basically just a browser . . . .

  105. After you solved the networking problem by Pirulo · · Score: 1

    don't forget to glue the tablet to a kiosk

  106. Options for Android by aitan · · Score: 1

    Instead of creating your own browser as other people have suggested, you can use an existing app: Kiosk Browser HC, and for a little price (after all you won't pay that so that shouldn't be a worry) there's an improved version: Kiosk Browser SE.

    According to the version of the OS and if you can root the tablets or not, that might be all that you need, but if there's some other requirement then check SureLock Kiosk Lockdown

  107. "Why" don't help. This will. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Healthcare IT is, "We want this. We don't want a better alternative." 9 times out of 10. Alternatives probably don't help the OP.

    If it is Windows, I'd use http://www.web-screen-saver.com/ - $19.95 or less per copy and the configurations support a Kiosk mode as well as embedded media. It's worked well for me.

  108. maybe look at a rooted android and use.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    baby applications tend to lock out everything so if you used one as a boilerplate and built from there you could have the app auto start on startup and a little python / other watchdog script could ensure it relaunched even if it crashed..

  109. Firewalled Wifi Access Point - No DNS Hijacking by billstewart · · Score: 1

    You don't even need to hijack DNS or mess with the tablet OS - just have the access point route all the traffic to your content server instead of the real public internet. (Of course, you need Wifi-only tablets :-) You could probably serve the whole thing from a PogoPlug or equivalent, or alternatively use a small PC with a Wifi card as the server/WAP.

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