The problem with storage is that the "environmentalists" want the world to fix to a static state. Energy can very easily be stored by pumping water up hill. It doesn't even have to be drinkable water.
The vast majority of the population doesn't take whether something is scientifically proven or not into consideration when they call something "medicine". Also, your bumper sticker statement implies that you are placing chiropractics in the 'not medicine' category. The AMA feels that chiropractics meets their standards of medicine.
Beyond that, the claim that resetting bones and relieving the pinching of nerves is not the extraordinary claim that needs extraordinary evidence. The claim that leaving bones out of place and leaving nerves pinched is just as good as fixing them is the extraordinary claim.
As great of a bumper sticker as your quote makes, it isn't true.
No, I don't. As long as I've been sexually active, I have compartmentalized information. Among other things, the women I sleep with get to know exactly how I like my balls licked. My mother does not.
I guess some of use are just not as close to our mothers as others.
I will agree with that. I only argue that the idea is not bat-shit insane, and that if one is to declare it wrong, it should be declared wrong for the right reasons. When one argues against a bad idea with dishonesty, it feeds the people who believe the bad idea. Even worse is when one uses the same dishonesty to argue that a verifiability beneficial practice (chiropractic) is a bad idea while equating the two ideas.
Now, there is a reasonable response to homeopathy. I will agree that "Like cures like" is not a generally proven principle, it is the basic idea behind immunization. You make a formula that is like the disease and inject it into the patient, and their body develops an immunity to the disease. Now we can split hairs and say that gaining an immunity to a disease is not exactly the same thing as 'curing', but the basic idea of "like cures like" is in wide use.
Now, I am not prepared to rely on anything labelled "Homeopathy" to give me any kind of health benefit, but there is a vocal group on Slashdot that jump to calling it quackery by taking the most bizarre aspect they can find and making that the single point that describes the entire idea. If you want to call out a subject as quackery, being dishonest about what it is doesn't make the case.
Even worse is when they group homeopathy with chiropractics. Where as homeopathy "is not a generally proven principle", chiropractics IS a generally proven principal. It has easily explainable and reproducible benefits. In fact, when it comes to chiropractics, the exceptional claim would be that it doesn't provide health benefits, since it is an exceptional claim to say that putting bones in place that had previously been out of place has no health benefits.
The statistics I quote are pre-vaccine. You WANT them to be post vaccine. 150 people a year is absolutely tiny. If you can do math, you will also see that 55% of all chicken pox deaths were seen in adults. That means that even using the high side estimate of 150 people a year, you only have 68 children a year die from chicken pox. That INCLUDES your 30% neonatal mortality rate. How can the number be so low when "neonatal mortality rate from chickenpox is 30%" [citation needed]. Easy. If the mother has immunity, she passes it on the the baby which lasts for about the first year of the babies life. So, if the mothers would have been taken to a pox party as children, their babies wouldn't have died. It is the lack of chicken pox infection for children that is to blame. Of course with a vaccine that wears off, we can expect to see a lot more mothers without immunity, and thus a lot more neonatal death due to the use of the chicken pox vaccine. No doubt the increased death rate among infants will be used as an excuse to push even more of the bad medicine that caused their deaths in the first place.
Some numbers to ponder:
Yearly child deaths caused by chicken pox (95% of all pre-immunization cases): 68
Yearly adult deaths caused by chicken pox (5% of all pre-immunization cases): 82
Yearly death rate due to lightning strikes: 82
Yearly death due to riding a school bus: 32
Yearly deaths due to drowning in pool (ages 5-9): 267
Yearly deaths due to drowning in pool (ages 5-24): 678
Yearly deaths due to trees: 32
Yearly deaths due to Tornado: 63
Yearly deaths due to suicide: 1616
So, sure, pox parties are more dangerous than... TREES, but pretty much tie sending your kid to school in a school bus and having the existence of TREES combined. You are the victim of fear mongering, and your acceptance of this has you helping to spread the FUD. Seriously. You are worried about a disease that is only twice as dangerous as the existence of TREES.
Yes, I made a typing mistake. I didn't mean travel, I meant trade.
That being said, saying what fees/taxes can be levied on products that are involved in Interstate Commerce is EXACTLY the kind of thing that the ICC was created for. The Feds are well known for abusing the ICC, but in a world where words have meaning, not only would it fit entirely and accurately into the ICC, but you would also realize that the Feds would not be collecting a state sales tax.
So, your stance is that all chiropractors are quacks because if they are not quacks YOU don't count them as chiropractors no matter what their license says, and what it says on the front of the office. That makes no sense.
You have reading comprehension problems. If you could read, you would see that I never said that diluting to the point of 0 active ingredient held health benefits. You would have noticed that I said the basic premise, which is, as you even quoted "like cures like". That is an oversimplification of what vaccination does, but it pretty well sums it up. You inject something that is "like" the actual live disease, and your body learns to kill the actual live disease, giving you immunity. This is even more closely related to the "like cures like" when you consider that some vaccines are entirely synthetic, so the best you could call them is "like" the actual disease.
You use words, but clearly don't understand them.
As for Chiropractics, I call your Wikipedia article, and raise you with the yellow pages. Pick any random chiropractor from the phone book, and tell them that you have lung cancer and your liver is failing. Then ask them if they can cure it for you. Unless you go WAY out of your way to find a quack, the answer you will get is "NO".
It is common for people to call modern chiropractics a scam, just as the poster I originally responded to did. When you say that "Chiropractics IS quackery", you are not making a statement about what some quack told their 'patient' in 1970 after a session sitting in their pyramid and rubbing crystals. You are making a statement about modern chiropractics. To discuss something form the '70s the word "WAS" would be the correct term.
It is also trivial to find products listed as "Homeopathy" that in no way imply that their benifits come from dilution. I have in no way implied that dilution to the point 0 active ingredient has any ability to impart health benefits. I simply point out that a large group of people, llike you, make up a definition to validate a point that is in many cases incorrect.
The basic premise of homeopathy was originally that you could produce an immunity to a disease by introducing substances that mimic that symptoms of the disease in the patient. The fact that you can find crazy as a subset of the idea when you make your own definition to the word does not make everything that uses the word just as crazy as your definition. The fact that you took "The basic premise of homeopathy is immunization" and put anything about diluting water means that instead of having the conversation, you are just blindly crying "Crazy!!!".
As great of a bumper sticker as that makes, it isn't true. The very post I responded to was saying that chiropractics doesn't work, even though his own insurance company as well as the AMA is going to disagree. You told a "funny because it's true" joke, but funnily enough it isn't true.
So, your preferred distraction prevents you from engaging in your non-preferred distractions, and thus are a better driver? That is some fancy intellectual gymnastics you have there.
If you are in tune with your car enough, you can frequently shift without the clutch. I have a Suzuki Swift, that I will periodically just shift without using the clutch at all. Of course, clutches today make about as much sense as using a crank on the front of your car to start it.
Even the national price of products would be trivial. Advertise the final price, and back calculate the taxes. Sure the company would make a little more money in some areas, but that doesn't really pose a problem.
Actually the answer is to drop the nickle at the same time, and change the $0.25 piece to a $0.10 piece. Not only would you solve the "Penny Problem", But you would also solve the "Nickle Problem". As an added bonus, we could count our money in tenths of a dollar instead of hundredths of a dollar. So instead of $123.20, you could reliably put in $123.2.
The Feds do legitimately have the right to regulate interstate travel. All they would have to do is make the requirement for any products that cross state lines. This would fit very clearly and legitimately within the Interstate Commerce clause. States and retailers could choose to label all interstate goods with tax included, and in state only products without sales tax. They could also add extra taxes on anything they produced wholly in state. I would guess that consumers and retailers would very quickly put a huge amount of pressure on their local representatives to stick to the Federal sales tax guidelines.
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The problem with storage is that the "environmentalists" want the world to fix to a static state. Energy can very easily be stored by pumping water up hill. It doesn't even have to be drinkable water.
You are wrong.
The vast majority of the population doesn't take whether something is scientifically proven or not into consideration when they call something "medicine". Also, your bumper sticker statement implies that you are placing chiropractics in the 'not medicine' category. The AMA feels that chiropractics meets their standards of medicine.
Beyond that, the claim that resetting bones and relieving the pinching of nerves is not the extraordinary claim that needs extraordinary evidence. The claim that leaving bones out of place and leaving nerves pinched is just as good as fixing them is the extraordinary claim.
As great of a bumper sticker as your quote makes, it isn't true.
ASUS does this with their ExpressGate feature. http://expressgate.asus.com/
Of course he is doing something illegal. We all are. If you think that you are not, you probably haven't considered your actions very carefully.
No, I don't. As long as I've been sexually active, I have compartmentalized information. Among other things, the women I sleep with get to know exactly how I like my balls licked. My mother does not.
I guess some of use are just not as close to our mothers as others.
Obviously you haven't read any of the previous posts, as every single point you make has already been addressed and debunked.
A quick google search: http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keywords=tea%20tree%20oil&rh=n%3A3760901%2Ck%3Atea%20tree%20oil%2Cp_n_theme_browse-bin%3A389561011&page=1
I will agree with that. I only argue that the idea is not bat-shit insane, and that if one is to declare it wrong, it should be declared wrong for the right reasons. When one argues against a bad idea with dishonesty, it feeds the people who believe the bad idea. Even worse is when one uses the same dishonesty to argue that a verifiability beneficial practice (chiropractic) is a bad idea while equating the two ideas.
Now, there is a reasonable response to homeopathy. I will agree that "Like cures like" is not a generally proven principle, it is the basic idea behind immunization. You make a formula that is like the disease and inject it into the patient, and their body develops an immunity to the disease. Now we can split hairs and say that gaining an immunity to a disease is not exactly the same thing as 'curing', but the basic idea of "like cures like" is in wide use.
Now, I am not prepared to rely on anything labelled "Homeopathy" to give me any kind of health benefit, but there is a vocal group on Slashdot that jump to calling it quackery by taking the most bizarre aspect they can find and making that the single point that describes the entire idea. If you want to call out a subject as quackery, being dishonest about what it is doesn't make the case.
Even worse is when they group homeopathy with chiropractics. Where as homeopathy "is not a generally proven principle", chiropractics IS a generally proven principal. It has easily explainable and reproducible benefits. In fact, when it comes to chiropractics, the exceptional claim would be that it doesn't provide health benefits, since it is an exceptional claim to say that putting bones in place that had previously been out of place has no health benefits.
The statistics I quote are pre-vaccine. You WANT them to be post vaccine. 150 people a year is absolutely tiny. If you can do math, you will also see that 55% of all chicken pox deaths were seen in adults. That means that even using the high side estimate of 150 people a year, you only have 68 children a year die from chicken pox. That INCLUDES your 30% neonatal mortality rate. How can the number be so low when "neonatal mortality rate from chickenpox is 30%" [citation needed]. Easy. If the mother has immunity, she passes it on the the baby which lasts for about the first year of the babies life. So, if the mothers would have been taken to a pox party as children, their babies wouldn't have died. It is the lack of chicken pox infection for children that is to blame. Of course with a vaccine that wears off, we can expect to see a lot more mothers without immunity, and thus a lot more neonatal death due to the use of the chicken pox vaccine. No doubt the increased death rate among infants will be used as an excuse to push even more of the bad medicine that caused their deaths in the first place.
Some numbers to ponder:
Yearly child deaths caused by chicken pox (95% of all pre-immunization cases): 68
Yearly adult deaths caused by chicken pox (5% of all pre-immunization cases): 82
Yearly death rate due to lightning strikes: 82
Yearly death due to riding a school bus: 32
Yearly deaths due to drowning in pool (ages 5-9): 267
Yearly deaths due to drowning in pool (ages 5-24): 678
Yearly deaths due to trees: 32
Yearly deaths due to Tornado: 63
Yearly deaths due to suicide: 1616
So, sure, pox parties are more dangerous than... TREES, but pretty much tie sending your kid to school in a school bus and having the existence of TREES combined. You are the victim of fear mongering, and your acceptance of this has you helping to spread the FUD. Seriously. You are worried about a disease that is only twice as dangerous as the existence of TREES.
Yes, I made a typing mistake. I didn't mean travel, I meant trade.
That being said, saying what fees/taxes can be levied on products that are involved in Interstate Commerce is EXACTLY the kind of thing that the ICC was created for. The Feds are well known for abusing the ICC, but in a world where words have meaning, not only would it fit entirely and accurately into the ICC, but you would also realize that the Feds would not be collecting a state sales tax.
By your definition, texting for directions counts as "non-distracting". You are simply rationalizing.
So, your stance is that all chiropractors are quacks because if they are not quacks YOU don't count them as chiropractors no matter what their license says, and what it says on the front of the office. That makes no sense.
You have reading comprehension problems. If you could read, you would see that I never said that diluting to the point of 0 active ingredient held health benefits. You would have noticed that I said the basic premise, which is, as you even quoted "like cures like". That is an oversimplification of what vaccination does, but it pretty well sums it up. You inject something that is "like" the actual live disease, and your body learns to kill the actual live disease, giving you immunity. This is even more closely related to the "like cures like" when you consider that some vaccines are entirely synthetic, so the best you could call them is "like" the actual disease.
You use words, but clearly don't understand them.
As for Chiropractics, I call your Wikipedia article, and raise you with the yellow pages. Pick any random chiropractor from the phone book, and tell them that you have lung cancer and your liver is failing. Then ask them if they can cure it for you. Unless you go WAY out of your way to find a quack, the answer you will get is "NO".
It is common for people to call modern chiropractics a scam, just as the poster I originally responded to did. When you say that "Chiropractics IS quackery", you are not making a statement about what some quack told their 'patient' in 1970 after a session sitting in their pyramid and rubbing crystals. You are making a statement about modern chiropractics. To discuss something form the '70s the word "WAS" would be the correct term.
If you look past your own personal biases you would see that the basic premise of homeopathy is NOT about diluting. It is "The basic principle of homeopathy, known as the "law of similars", is "let like be cured by like." This was first stated by German physician Samuel Hahnemann in 1796".
It is also trivial to find products listed as "Homeopathy" that in no way imply that their benifits come from dilution. I have in no way implied that dilution to the point 0 active ingredient has any ability to impart health benefits. I simply point out that a large group of people, llike you, make up a definition to validate a point that is in many cases incorrect.
The basic premise of homeopathy was originally that you could produce an immunity to a disease by introducing substances that mimic that symptoms of the disease in the patient. The fact that you can find crazy as a subset of the idea when you make your own definition to the word does not make everything that uses the word just as crazy as your definition. The fact that you took "The basic premise of homeopathy is immunization" and put anything about diluting water means that instead of having the conversation, you are just blindly crying "Crazy!!!".
As great of a bumper sticker as that makes, it isn't true. The very post I responded to was saying that chiropractics doesn't work, even though his own insurance company as well as the AMA is going to disagree. You told a "funny because it's true" joke, but funnily enough it isn't true.
So, your preferred distraction prevents you from engaging in your non-preferred distractions, and thus are a better driver? That is some fancy intellectual gymnastics you have there.
If you are in tune with your car enough, you can frequently shift without the clutch. I have a Suzuki Swift, that I will periodically just shift without using the clutch at all. Of course, clutches today make about as much sense as using a crank on the front of your car to start it.
You get rid of the nickle, and switch from the $0.25 piece to a $0.20 piece.
Even the national price of products would be trivial. Advertise the final price, and back calculate the taxes. Sure the company would make a little more money in some areas, but that doesn't really pose a problem.
Yes, our tipping system is actually kind of creepy and corrupt.
Actually the answer is to drop the nickle at the same time, and change the $0.25 piece to a $0.10 piece. Not only would you solve the "Penny Problem", But you would also solve the "Nickle Problem". As an added bonus, we could count our money in tenths of a dollar instead of hundredths of a dollar. So instead of $123.20, you could reliably put in $123.2.
The Feds do legitimately have the right to regulate interstate travel. All they would have to do is make the requirement for any products that cross state lines. This would fit very clearly and legitimately within the Interstate Commerce clause. States and retailers could choose to label all interstate goods with tax included, and in state only products without sales tax. They could also add extra taxes on anything they produced wholly in state. I would guess that consumers and retailers would very quickly put a huge amount of pressure on their local representatives to stick to the Federal sales tax guidelines.