Wow, thats hot that they let angsty scrip kiddies and thier friends on/. I can't wait till youre a big boy, you have somthing worth stealing and it gets stolen.
How many *nix admins have the patch managment in place to tacke the updates.
In a windows shop your prepare and expect "ugly patch day" just like you do woth every OS.
So, I don't care about the OS as long as it does the job when I need it to and when it breaks I can fix it without too much headache.
Serriously stop crying, I will mahe a huge assumption that most slashdoters are computer enthusiasts and that we all know one thing, no matter the product or vendor, at some point youre gonna take it in the ass.
Being a n00b it was nice to have a place to go that gave you face time with enthusiasts who were enthusiastic to help and also, from my personal experience, expect to be asked n00b questions.
You also get exposure to different views first hand, whereas when just parsing forums you are generally exposed to what you are looking for, at a LUG you may be exposed to something you had never considered and later use.
Not to mention I have never been invited to a WUG...
Also, my local lug is located by a great bar and gives me an excuse to tell my wife.... I mean... I like going to the LUG, it is fun.
No, they shouldn't have to SFTW RTFM or even study *FOO to use a PC that anyone can purchase from a retailer and use out of the box with minimal stress. Now, lets not forget that is is not the hardcore, but, the hardened that sit any whine about others abilitys, the same USERS that forget about the first time they re-compiled a kernel which I can guarentee even with step by step documentation was a bit stressfull.
Considering the argument, I agree with everyone; concurrently, all readings of the (King James) Bible, the United States Constitution and old issues of phrack magazine will now be charged a 10.00 reading fee whenever read. Please send me money, the ideas listed are now owned by Keaster. Please send the funds to:
Keaster Island
P.O. Box Holy Crap Get a Life Island
Seriously, Relax
20702
I am in a place where be bounce over 1,000,000 messages a day.
Spam is the biggest cance on the internet. I have no problem with "gettin' biblical" on spammers. I think that SPAM is such an extreem plague that not only DDoS em but whip thier ass too.
In defense of Kevin you have to realize that the shows producers/ directors had major input over what Kevin could or could not say and how far he could go with it in respect to his "Dark Tips"
You have to look at that show as a radio show on TV, with its crappy format changes and content not based on the hosts original thoughts but a producers. The hosts are only allowed to interpret. If the Channel/ Show was still ZDNETtv I can guarantee you that it would kick total a$$ (and Morgan Webb would still be on TSS).
I could have gone without the silly dilly "I Pirate Music" tee shirts as well; but, guess what, YES!... You are correct sir; it was the producers' idea. Kevin is actually very very intelligent, just look at his real resume.
Now for some speculation... I believe that he is still working on a project writing a security book based on the 7 layers of the OSI. Let's see what he says in his own words, give the guy a chance.
Thankfully admin do not see the same miscreant crap come from bittorrent that you do from other p2p programs, I guess it is the top of the food chain for pirating.
NOTE, In my oppinion Bittorrent is a great technology ad can be put to many uses.
I do have a life, most of it is spent babysitting assholes that dont think its a big deal that he got a virus on a machine that connects to the network and that by using he has become a security threat.
I will explain a bit more, at home I use azurus, hell, even kazaa if I feel like living dangerously. I would never do so on a network that I do not own or make decisions for.
I feel bad that dude is on a college network and has to abide by someones rules, but, m$BSOD, it is thier rules, too fucking bad.
You do not need federal mandate to babysit users on a network they do not own. M$BSOD do you remember when you got your job at MCDonnalds, and they had you sign a form saying you couldn't abuse the internet. Or maybe you have read an e-mail with a disclaimer at the bottom. Do you think admins and hr like to piss thier time away chasing down assholes with no common sence and respect for data that dosen't belong to te user?
ohhhh, I never said that the p2p web, postal service, video tapes, etc..
I said the software is a fucking annoyance on a net you have to manage.
I saw your other post about having to deal with "stupid admins", so I have to ask, why is an admin that wants to keep garbage off his network stupid?
You arent one of those anoying users that thinks thay know beter are you . . .
And while you are preaching that "Life is too short..." you should memtion to buy some decent antivirus too. You left the whole protection idea out of you well thought retort.
If you have any questions you can always send me your public IP and we can have a conversation about swiss cheese, er.... I mean your box.
I forgot to mention, you're a bitch too
You are obviously not a professional yet. Sat in school a bit more. Maybe when you graduate and get a job somewhere you will have to explain to the USER why they can't run p2p programs.
Dude, you're stupid. I can't think of a better word, just plain stupid.
I don't think that Eric Raymond, Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman would dig you telling them to go "f" themselves.
I remember reading Takedown, and Cyberpunk, and numerous other books. I have sought out and watched the movie Takedown. I remember reading about the worlds most evil hacker, suspected of being able to call NORAD and launch a nuclear assault, obsessed with Jody Foster, and of course I am sure he beats puppies too. . . (read the the bottom of my post)
Than I did some more research, wached the documentary Freedom Downtime,read a little more on the subject. No, Kevin Mitnick is not a saint, none of us are. Yes, he did some bad stuff when he was a kid, he was rewared for it (in school). After his first bust he spent 8 months in solitary for 23 hours a day, do you think that after that experience he might want to run and never be caulght again. I know I would and I am very conservitive, a Rebublican if you will.
Now I do not think I will ever share the same sociatal or political views of 2600 Magazine (google "2600 HOPE" if you realy need to); however, I went to HOPE this weekend. The very approchable Kevin Mitnick was there, and, took his time to speak with anyone who approached him, including myself. During his Keynote address, which I belive you can downbload from this site, he talks frankly (not braggingly) about what what he did, the results, the personal costs, and yes, yes, yes, he told the audience to "NOT, make the [mistakes] he made". No sir, Kevin Mitnick is not evil, nor a saint, he even likes puppies. I would habe no problem handing Kevin my Credit Card to go get gas and know that he would come back with it. I would not trust John Markov or Tsutomu Shimomura, because they lie. Markov has publicly admitid to telling mis-truths. Tsutomu overly inflated hs story, and even allowed Mirimax to use his name and re-tell his story full more lies. Hell, the movie has them meeting 2 times, one where T.S. gets beaten up because of Kevin, whay bull shit.
Mr Chuck, I do not blame you for being misinformed, I pitty you. If you ever get the chance to speak to Kevin do so, he is very kind and approchable. Just do not call him an asswipe as that would be rude and just plain wrong.
SK
The last time I checked he was far from full of himself, and he can't control that a bunch of 17 yeard olds in all black think he is Jesus. By the way he never even once compared himself to Jesus, somone else called him a maryter durring q and a. There was never a Jesus reference.
I remember reading Takedown, and Cyberpunk, and numerous other books. I have sought out and watched the movie Takedown. I remember reading about the worlds most evil hacker, suspected of being able to call NORAD and launch a nuclear assault, obsessed with Jody Foster, and of course I am sure he beats puppies too. . . (read the the bottom of my post)
Than I did some more research, wached the documentary Freedom Downtime,read a little more on the subject. No, Kevin Mitnick is not a saint, none of us are. Yes, he did some bad stuff when he was a kid, he was rewared for it (in school). After his first bust he spent 8 months in solitary for 23 hours a day, do you think that after that experience he might want to run and never be caulght again. I know I would and I am very conservitive, a Rebublican if you will.
Now I do not think I will ever share the same sociatal or political views of 2600 Magazine (google "2600 HOPE" if you realy need to); however, I went to HOPE this weekend. The very approchable Kevin Mitnick was there, and, took his time to speak with anyone who approached him, including myself. During his Keynote address, which I belive you can downbload from this site, he talks frankly (not braggingly) about what what he did, the results, the personal costs, and yes, yes, yes, he told the audience to "NOT, make the [mistakes] he made". No sir, Kevin Mitnick is not evil, nor a saint, he even likes puppies. I would habe no problem handing Kevin my Credit Card to go get gas and know that he would come back with it. I would not trust John Markov or Tsutomu Shimomura, because they lie. Markov has publicly admitid to telling mis-truths. Tsutomu overly inflated hs story, and even allowed Mirimax to use his name and re-tell his story full more lies. Hell, the movie has them meeting 2 times, one where T.S. gets beaten up because of Kevin, whay bull shit.
Mr Chuck, I do not blame you for being misinformed, I pitty you. If you ever get the chance to speak to Kevin do so, he is very kind and approchable. Just do not call him an asswipe as that would be rude and just plain wrong.
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It was thier GSX server product rebranded.
WORD
You are missing a few things like fire, flood, lightning etc.
Wow, thats hot that they let angsty scrip kiddies and thier friends on /. I can't wait till youre a big boy, you have somthing worth stealing and it gets stolen.
Dude, You're a thief. You suck
How many *nix admins have the patch managment in place to tacke the updates. In a windows shop your prepare and expect "ugly patch day" just like you do woth every OS. So, I don't care about the OS as long as it does the job when I need it to and when it breaks I can fix it without too much headache. Serriously stop crying, I will mahe a huge assumption that most slashdoters are computer enthusiasts and that we all know one thing, no matter the product or vendor, at some point youre gonna take it in the ass.
Being a n00b it was nice to have a place to go that gave you face time with enthusiasts who were enthusiastic to help and also, from my personal experience, expect to be asked n00b questions. You also get exposure to different views first hand, whereas when just parsing forums you are generally exposed to what you are looking for, at a LUG you may be exposed to something you had never considered and later use. Not to mention I have never been invited to a WUG ...
Also, my local lug is located by a great bar and gives me an excuse to tell my wife .... I mean ... I like going to the LUG, it is fun.
In Red China the source opens you!
I see none of you leave your terminals to ever experience the other real world.
Thats some Sad Sh1t
No, they shouldn't have to SFTW RTFM or even study *FOO to use a PC that anyone can purchase from a retailer and use out of the box with minimal stress. Now, lets not forget that is is not the hardcore, but, the hardened that sit any whine about others abilitys, the same USERS that forget about the first time they re-compiled a kernel which I can guarentee even with step by step documentation was a bit stressfull.
Considering the argument, I agree with everyone; concurrently, all readings of the (King James) Bible, the United States Constitution and old issues of phrack magazine will now be charged a 10.00 reading fee whenever read. Please send me money, the ideas listed are now owned by Keaster. Please send the funds to: Keaster Island P.O. Box Holy Crap Get a Life Island Seriously, Relax 20702
I am neither happy nor sad, I just know that there will be a little drop in Spam traffic, and that makes it a good day.
I am in a place where be bounce over 1,000,000 messages a day. Spam is the biggest cance on the internet. I have no problem with "gettin' biblical" on spammers. I think that SPAM is such an extreem plague that not only DDoS em but whip thier ass too.
In defense of Kevin you have to realize that the shows producers/ directors had major input over what Kevin could or could not say and how far he could go with it in respect to his "Dark Tips" You have to look at that show as a radio show on TV, with its crappy format changes and content not based on the hosts original thoughts but a producers. The hosts are only allowed to interpret. If the Channel/ Show was still ZDNETtv I can guarantee you that it would kick total a$$ (and Morgan Webb would still be on TSS). I could have gone without the silly dilly "I Pirate Music" tee shirts as well; but, guess what, YES! ... You are correct sir; it was the producers' idea. Kevin is actually very very intelligent, just look at his real resume.
Now for some speculation ... I believe that he is still working on a project writing a security book based on the 7 layers of the OSI. Let's see what he says in his own words, give the guy a chance.
Its the MCSEs that are using the p2p.
Thankfully admin do not see the same miscreant crap come from bittorrent that you do from other p2p programs, I guess it is the top of the food chain for pirating. NOTE, In my oppinion Bittorrent is a great technology ad can be put to many uses. I do have a life, most of it is spent babysitting assholes that dont think its a big deal that he got a virus on a machine that connects to the network and that by using he has become a security threat. I will explain a bit more, at home I use azurus, hell, even kazaa if I feel like living dangerously. I would never do so on a network that I do not own or make decisions for. I feel bad that dude is on a college network and has to abide by someones rules, but, m$BSOD, it is thier rules, too fucking bad. You do not need federal mandate to babysit users on a network they do not own. M$BSOD do you remember when you got your job at MCDonnalds, and they had you sign a form saying you couldn't abuse the internet. Or maybe you have read an e-mail with a disclaimer at the bottom. Do you think admins and hr like to piss thier time away chasing down assholes with no common sence and respect for data that dosen't belong to te user? ohhhh, I never said that the p2p web, postal service, video tapes, etc.. I said the software is a fucking annoyance on a net you have to manage. I saw your other post about having to deal with "stupid admins", so I have to ask, why is an admin that wants to keep garbage off his network stupid? You arent one of those anoying users that thinks thay know beter are you . . . And while you are preaching that "Life is too short..." you should memtion to buy some decent antivirus too. You left the whole protection idea out of you well thought retort. If you have any questions you can always send me your public IP and we can have a conversation about swiss cheese, er.... I mean your box. I forgot to mention, you're a bitch too
You are obviously not a professional yet. Sat in school a bit more. Maybe when you graduate and get a job somewhere you will have to explain to the USER why they can't run p2p programs.
Restore from the offsite backup.
Ask Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman . . . Ever seen Reveloution OS?
Dude, you're stupid. I can't think of a better word, just plain stupid. I don't think that Eric Raymond, Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman would dig you telling them to go "f" themselves.
... at least Blacklisted is back ... damn
ummm wrong plase to poast last message. the long one was for this string
I remember reading Takedown, and Cyberpunk, and numerous other books. I have sought out and watched the movie Takedown. I remember reading about the worlds most evil hacker, suspected of being able to call NORAD and launch a nuclear assault, obsessed with Jody Foster, and of course I am sure he beats puppies too. . . (read the the bottom of my post) Than I did some more research, wached the documentary Freedom Downtime ,read a little more on the subject. No, Kevin Mitnick is not a saint, none of us are. Yes, he did some bad stuff when he was a kid, he was rewared for it (in school). After his first bust he spent 8 months in solitary for 23 hours a day, do you think that after that experience he might want to run and never be caulght again. I know I would and I am very conservitive, a Rebublican if you will.
Now I do not think I will ever share the same sociatal or political views of 2600 Magazine (google "2600 HOPE" if you realy need to); however, I went to HOPE this weekend. The very approchable Kevin Mitnick was there, and, took his time to speak with anyone who approached him, including myself. During his Keynote address, which I belive you can downbload from this site, he talks frankly (not braggingly) about what what he did, the results, the personal costs, and yes, yes, yes, he told the audience to "NOT, make the [mistakes] he made". No sir, Kevin Mitnick is not evil, nor a saint, he even likes puppies. I would habe no problem handing Kevin my Credit Card to go get gas and know that he would come back with it. I would not trust John Markov or Tsutomu Shimomura, because they lie. Markov has publicly admitid to telling mis-truths. Tsutomu overly inflated hs story, and even allowed Mirimax to use his name and re-tell his story full more lies. Hell, the movie has them meeting 2 times, one where T.S. gets beaten up because of Kevin, whay bull shit.
Mr Chuck, I do not blame you for being misinformed, I pitty you. If you ever get the chance to speak to Kevin do so, he is very kind and approchable. Just do not call him an asswipe as that would be rude and just plain wrong.
SK
The last time I checked he was far from full of himself, and he can't control that a bunch of 17 yeard olds in all black think he is Jesus. By the way he never even once compared himself to Jesus, somone else called him a maryter durring q and a. There was never a Jesus reference.
I remember reading Takedown, and Cyberpunk, and numerous other books. I have sought out and watched the movie Takedown. I remember reading about the worlds most evil hacker, suspected of being able to call NORAD and launch a nuclear assault, obsessed with Jody Foster, and of course I am sure he beats puppies too. . . (read the the bottom of my post)
,read a little more on the subject. No, Kevin Mitnick is not a saint, none of us are. Yes, he did some bad stuff when he was a kid, he was rewared for it (in school). After his first bust he spent 8 months in solitary for 23 hours a day, do you think that after that experience he might want to run and never be caulght again. I know I would and I am very conservitive, a Rebublican if you will.
Than I did some more research, wached the documentary Freedom Downtime
Now I do not think I will ever share the same sociatal or political views of 2600 Magazine (google "2600 HOPE" if you realy need to); however, I went to HOPE this weekend. The very approchable Kevin Mitnick was there, and, took his time to speak with anyone who approached him, including myself. During his Keynote address, which I belive you can downbload from this site, he talks frankly (not braggingly) about what what he did, the results, the personal costs, and yes, yes, yes, he told the audience to "NOT, make the [mistakes] he made". No sir, Kevin Mitnick is not evil, nor a saint, he even likes puppies. I would habe no problem handing Kevin my Credit Card to go get gas and know that he would come back with it. I would not trust John Markov or Tsutomu Shimomura, because they lie. Markov has publicly admitid to telling mis-truths. Tsutomu overly inflated hs story, and even allowed Mirimax to use his name and re-tell his story full more lies. Hell, the movie has them meeting 2 times, one where T.S. gets beaten up because of Kevin, whay bull shit.
Mr Chuck, I do not blame you for being misinformed, I pitty you. If you ever get the chance to speak to Kevin do so, he is very kind and approchable. Just do not call him an asswipe as that would be rude and just plain wrong.
SK