Because in a couple of months there will probably be a Democrat Administration that can thoroughly enjoy all the new uncontrolled powers
And I can't wait for it. As I have said many times on here, I am a lifelong republican but absolutely abhor what these facists have done to both the party and the Constitution.
As it stands now, there will be a Democratic president in 18 months and when the republicans, most importantly Fox/Rush/et al, start screaming bloody murder about all the powers the new president is wielding and running rampant over the Constitution, I will be the first one in line telling them to fuck off as they are the ones who forced these powers through, claiming all the while that these powers were absolutely needed to fight terrorism, despite the protests from people calling them an abomination against civil liberties. (How's that for a run-on sentence?)
Yeah, the Dems caved, for whatever various reasons, but I can't wait see the Dem president and all the apoplectic seizures the Reps will have trying to claim these powers are somehow unConstitutional and should be revoked.
Hell, I'm even happy there might a third party, neo-conservative candidate just so the Republican vote gets split, all but guaranteeing a Democratic president.
I find it incomprehensible that in 160,000 years that human beings as intelligent and creative as we are today failed to have any technological innovation in all of that time. Agriculture really is not that big of a stretch intellectually.
That's because you're using a modern human brain to think things through. Try using a much more primitive, almost animal-like brain, and you'll see why your questions make no sense.
To us, having farms seems like a simple idea. Instead of running around finding fruit/nuts/whatever, just plant the stuff and have them in one location. That makes sense to us today. However, to early man, his sole goal was to survive. That meant going out every day to find something to eat. He didn't have time (nor the intellect) to understand that planting the pit from a cherry (or whatever fruit existed back then) in a specific location was preferable than having to go out and find it.
Further, when you consider the small population of near-humans that existed and how spread out they were, what one group may have found to make their lives easier probably did not transfer to another group. Why would the first group give up an advantage they had?
You can't use what we consider to be self-evident and try to apply it to someone living 100,000+ years ago. The conditions were completely different than what they are now.
The Islamic faith has the same proscription. 24 hours after death comes the burial.
Though I'm not sure how the voice of one muslim representative would fair if he objected to this new rule. After all, for all we know, he could be working with 'them'.*
* That's sarcasm for those that are considering marking me troll or flamebait.
The fact remains that the very thing we keep hearing those 'trrists' hate, freedom, is essentially dead in this country. For all the talk of how we're supposedly spreading freedom to an occupied country, it's just that, talk, since this administration is hell bent on destroying those very same freedoms in this country.
Between this newest revelation to track when people go on flights, requiring a national ID card, listening to our phone conversations without a warrant to preventing people from paying their bills until the source of their money is ok'd, we no longer live in a truly free society.
Oh sure, I can write this without fear of being arrested, but can I go on a flight without being classified as a threat? What does the file the FBI (and at least one other three-letter agency) have on me (and they do) say?
Bin Laden and his cohorts are probably laughing* in their cave at how they've succeeded in their first goal of undermining our society. How many times a week do we hear about law enforcement going into apoplectic seizures when someone thinks they saw some shifty character hanging around somewhere or an innocent package left behind shuts down some place?
It's a sad state of affairs when the people of this country don't care that their right to be free has been taken away from them. After all, there's those un-reality shows to watch. That the people who only a decade or so ago were crowing about how America is the greatest country on the planet, with all kinds of freedoms not enjoyed by many other countries, are now so willing to go along with this administration's excuses about why the rights enshrined in the Constitution must be taken away to protect them.
The quote about give them an inch and they'll take a mile certainly applies to this administration. Even worse, whoever comes into power next won't have the balls to undo the vast majority of wrongs being perpetrated against society but will instead be more concerned about getting re-elected than serving the people.
The rights of the Constitution had a good run of what, over two hundred years? Not bad all things considered. Now though, we are moving into a new era which will require citizens to involuntarily give up rights which have existed since the founding of the country in an effort to defeat terrorism. It will be a long, never-ending battle but by giving up our rights and acquiescing to the newest form a facist police-like-state, we can be assured that we will be safe and secure in our wiretapped, surveillanced, dwellings.
* I'm assuming that like most leaders, the rules they want to impose on others does not apply to them
Include Faux News in the minion category. I wanted to see if they would report Gore had won the Prize but at least for the hour I kept checking, they never did. Can't have some left-wing, tree-hugging liberal get recognition for their efforts, now can we?
Hey if you strap enough propellant on a pig it will fly.
Why use propellant when you can just have the pig stuck in a hole in a dam until the the water pressure builds up and shoots it (the pig) out the other side.
Then you can always use the phrase, "When pigs fly".
Verizon will provide the better option at a fair market value
Um, yeah. You keep believing that. Verizon got around to wiring my parents area and now my area with fibre. Their idea of a better option at a fair market value is $100/month for a three-package. Same as Comcast.
In other words, I have the choice of spending $100/month for broadband via Comcast or $100/month for broadband via Verizion. Some options.
Science is theory. Theory is not fact. Its simply the best answer given the circumstances.
And once again someone mixes and matches. Science is composed of two parts: facts (i.e. gravity, light, sound, evolution, etc) and theory (that which describes the fact).
If the facts didn't exist, we wouldn't exist. While theories themselves are not facts, they do describe factual entities.
THen on top of all the criticism of religion, you zealots ignore that scientist do their own share of politics, out right lies, and goofs.
And those that do such things are routintely and regularly exposed for the charlatans they are or missteps they made. That is how science works. It's called peer review. How much peer review is done when the Pope (or rabbi or mullah or any other religious entity) says, "This is how you shall do things or else!"?
And when it comes to miracles, the Catholic Church applies all the known scientific methods and ideologies trying to disprove the miracle, only labeling things miracles that science CANT explain.
Close, but no cigar. While the Church might apply some scientific principles to prove or disprove a supposed miracle, it regularly excludes people and processes who can show how X miracle was done or explained.
Whats in the book is not believed because its in a book...its believed because it is of God.
No, it's believed because someone tells you it is of God. There is zero proof to show that what is written actually came from an omnipotent being.
Its no surprise that you have illustrated the basic flaw in understanding faith.
Faith is belief in something without proof or requiring proof. What else is there to understand?
most people who use the service do so to make free Skype-to-Skype phone calls.
Imagine that. You offer a free service to people and they use it. Seems a bit odd to now say you're not making money because people aren't willing to pay for one of your other services.
To top it off, a technology company now claims they paid too much for you.
Those who cannot remember the past and all that comes to mind.
Ok, let me clarify. With the exception of the higher end sunglasses, I have not been able to find sunglasses which were not made in China.
Yes, I know Oakley and the like are out there but I'm not willing to spend $60 or more on a pair of sunglasses which I know for a fact I will drop on their lenses.
That and the fact that I can't find ones which fit me well or even look good on me.
So yes, you are correct in that there are sunglasses not made in China out there. The problem is one of cost.
it was almost impossible to avoid goods from China. It's a very good interview if you want to reduce your purchases from "Made in China"
While I will admit it is tough to not buy products made in China, I have found that with the exception of sunglasses and most electronics, I can buy the products I need which aren't made in China.
Granted, I'm the exception to most Americans in that I don't want or need a ton of stuff so I'm probably not a representative sample, but if one were to take the time and not buy products which are made in China, it can be done.
It's almost comical when I and my parents are out somewhere because both my dad and I look at where products are made. In fact, my dad refers to WalMart as "The China store". I'm sure some day someone in a store will ask what we're doing as we look at the labels on products. When that day occurs, I'll be happy to tell them why we're looking at the labels.
Of course it's flamebait. 'Fair and Balanced' means pointing out only the wacky, socialist ideas that Democrats have, never the same socialist ideas that Republicans have and have implemented.
And let's not get into the whole "smaller government" thing that Republicans continually tout. That would be heresy to point out the HUGE government expansion the Republicans have done, not to mention the Big Brother-esque, all-knowing-all-seeing spying programs.
And of course, the people cheering this on are going to be the same ones who want to put health-care decisions for the entire US in the hands of the same government that brought us the TSA.
So you're saying that Mitt Romney will be the next president? You remember Mitt, don't you? The Republican who forced the entire population of Massachusetts to buy health insurance or pay a fine, starting with confiscating any tax refund you may get.
Your viewpoint and mine are exactly the same. I'm usually much more harsh when talking about this subject but I thought I'd tone it down this time.
As you said, it's obvious that people who are constantly being arrested have not learned from their prior experiences. There is no reason we as taxpayers should have to continue to house and feed these people. We do not have the time or resources to keep coddling these people. To use a recent example, a man was pulled over in New Hampshire for drunk driving. The man had something like 20 convictions for it already. He outright told the officer there is nothing he (the officer) can do to prevent him from driving. A clear cut case of removing someone from society who obviously has no regard for anyone.
As for the possibility of innocence, again, absolutely agree. Which is why I said in my inital post that there would be exceptions for those iffy cases. If there is even the slightest chance that the person is innocent, keep them in prison. Rather a guilty man live than execute an innocent man.
Since prison isn't a deterrent to any crime, let's just stop throwing money there and close them down, right?
Or just do the right thing and execute the criminals with the only exceptions being the ones whose cases are iffy.
It's funny, isn't it? When a dog is considered a danger to the community we have no problem putting it down. It's an animal after all. However, when a human, another animal which supposedly has the ability to know right from wrong, kills/murders/rapes/whatever, we have no problem keeping them around.
My typical book cover usually says "Word of the Day" with other harmless jargon under it,
You could always try the other way by using known titles and changing them. For instance:
How to kill a mockingbird Blowing up the bridges of Madison County Putting bullets through the looking glass Attack the rear window
The Stand and shoot method
And to think my mod points expired yesterday. Would someone please get this person to +5?
I have tried Slack 10 and Debian somethingorother (same time as Slack). By tried I mean, downloaded everything, put them on CD and did manual installs just to see what I would be getting myself into. Four installs of Slack and I got four different results. Two installs of Debian and I got two different results.
Now Ubuntu, as the OP has said, is for someone like me who wants to put their toes into the Linux pond. If I had an empty system I'd be more than happy to fiddle with Ubuntu and then, maybe, move on to other distros.
With a bit more handholding (i.e better documentation), I could see Ubuntu being used more and more by folks, like me, from the Windows crowd who want to both experiment and maybe eventually move to Linux.
According to Faux News there is. The New York Times, NBC and its offshoot MSNBC, they're all left-wing, America-hating, surrendering-is-the-only-option left-wing media.
I mean, an organization which has a tag line of "Fair and Balanced" can't be lying, can it?
The real question isn't whether he was forced to admit it, the real question is whether Fixed News has reported this If they didn't report it then it's simply the left-wing media trying to undermine our security by supporting the terrorists.
It's not a blanket filtering policy. I'm not sure which software we use, I know we were using WebSense for a while, but it's more about types of sites. For instance, "PasswordsRUs" wouldn't be blocked but "Hot Ass Babes!" would be. If someone comes across a legitimate site which is being blocked, it's a simple matter of requesting it be removed from the blocklist.
We mainly filter adult, gambling, auction, games and a few other major types of sites. News sites and the vast majority of other sites are not blocked.
So time is now wasted trying to find ways to circumvent the filtering proxy.
I work for the government (state) and we use a proxy and filtering software. When the software was implemented, one person was (and maybe still is) logged trying to find ways to get to sites with the word 'ass' in them. You name it, he tried to get to it.
Go to the site directly? Yup. Didn't work. Go to Google then the site? Yup. Didn't work. Go to another site which somehow linked to the site. Yup. Didn't work. Tried to go to a site which provides ways of circumventing proxies? Yup. Couldn't get to the site.
From what I heard, the guy tried the same things every day, all the while we're logging his attempts. I don't know what, if anything has or will be done to him but since I'm not one who has a hand in such things, I will probably never know.
would be proud. To think they spent all those decades defending their spying on their citizens to promote stability and security and here we are following their example.
What's really funny is I distinctively remember Reagan boasting to the world how open our society was, how our citizens could move about freely without presenting papers and didn't have to worry about their conversations being recorded by the state and used against them.
Oh well, it's for our security so it must be good! After all, if you have nothing to fear, then this won't affect you. If you complain, the terrorists win. We can't have that, can we?
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And I can't wait for it. As I have said many times on here, I am a lifelong republican but absolutely abhor what these facists have done to both the party and the Constitution.
As it stands now, there will be a Democratic president in 18 months and when the republicans, most importantly Fox/Rush/et al, start screaming bloody murder about all the powers the new president is wielding and running rampant over the Constitution, I will be the first one in line telling them to fuck off as they are the ones who forced these powers through, claiming all the while that these powers were absolutely needed to fight terrorism, despite the protests from people calling them an abomination against civil liberties. (How's that for a run-on sentence?)
Yeah, the Dems caved, for whatever various reasons, but I can't wait see the Dem president and all the apoplectic seizures the Reps will have trying to claim these powers are somehow unConstitutional and should be revoked.
Hell, I'm even happy there might a third party, neo-conservative candidate just so the Republican vote gets split, all but guaranteeing a Democratic president.
That's because you're using a modern human brain to think things through. Try using a much more primitive, almost animal-like brain, and you'll see why your questions make no sense.
To us, having farms seems like a simple idea. Instead of running around finding fruit/nuts/whatever, just plant the stuff and have them in one location. That makes sense to us today. However, to early man, his sole goal was to survive. That meant going out every day to find something to eat. He didn't have time (nor the intellect) to understand that planting the pit from a cherry (or whatever fruit existed back then) in a specific location was preferable than having to go out and find it.
Further, when you consider the small population of near-humans that existed and how spread out they were, what one group may have found to make their lives easier probably did not transfer to another group. Why would the first group give up an advantage they had?
You can't use what we consider to be self-evident and try to apply it to someone living 100,000+ years ago. The conditions were completely different than what they are now.
The Islamic faith has the same proscription. 24 hours after death comes the burial.
Though I'm not sure how the voice of one muslim representative would fair if he objected to this new rule. After all, for all we know, he could be working with 'them'.*
* That's sarcasm for those that are considering marking me troll or flamebait.
The fact remains that the very thing we keep hearing those 'trrists' hate, freedom, is essentially dead in this country. For all the talk of how we're supposedly spreading freedom to an occupied country, it's just that, talk, since this administration is hell bent on destroying those very same freedoms in this country.
Between this newest revelation to track when people go on flights, requiring a national ID card, listening to our phone conversations without a warrant to preventing people from paying their bills until the source of their money is ok'd, we no longer live in a truly free society.
Oh sure, I can write this without fear of being arrested, but can I go on a flight without being classified as a threat? What does the file the FBI (and at least one other three-letter agency) have on me (and they do) say?
Bin Laden and his cohorts are probably laughing* in their cave at how they've succeeded in their first goal of undermining our society. How many times a week do we hear about law enforcement going into apoplectic seizures when someone thinks they saw some shifty character hanging around somewhere or an innocent package left behind shuts down some place?
It's a sad state of affairs when the people of this country don't care that their right to be free has been taken away from them. After all, there's those un-reality shows to watch. That the people who only a decade or so ago were crowing about how America is the greatest country on the planet, with all kinds of freedoms not enjoyed by many other countries, are now so willing to go along with this administration's excuses about why the rights enshrined in the Constitution must be taken away to protect them.
The quote about give them an inch and they'll take a mile certainly applies to this administration. Even worse, whoever comes into power next won't have the balls to undo the vast majority of wrongs being perpetrated against society but will instead be more concerned about getting re-elected than serving the people.
The rights of the Constitution had a good run of what, over two hundred years? Not bad all things considered. Now though, we are moving into a new era which will require citizens to involuntarily give up rights which have existed since the founding of the country in an effort to defeat terrorism. It will be a long, never-ending battle but by giving up our rights and acquiescing to the newest form a facist police-like-state, we can be assured that we will be safe and secure in our wiretapped, surveillanced, dwellings.
* I'm assuming that like most leaders, the rules they want to impose on others does not apply to them
Include Faux News in the minion category. I wanted to see if they would report Gore had won the Prize but at least for the hour I kept checking, they never did. Can't have some left-wing, tree-hugging liberal get recognition for their efforts, now can we?
Why use propellant when you can just have the pig stuck in a hole in a dam until the the water pressure builds up and shoots it (the pig) out the other side.
Then you can always use the phrase, "When pigs fly".
Um, yeah. You keep believing that. Verizon got around to wiring my parents area and now my area with fibre. Their idea of a better option at a fair market value is $100/month for a three-package. Same as Comcast.
In other words, I have the choice of spending $100/month for broadband via Comcast or $100/month for broadband via Verizion. Some options.
And once again someone mixes and matches. Science is composed of two parts: facts (i.e. gravity, light, sound, evolution, etc) and theory (that which describes the fact).
If the facts didn't exist, we wouldn't exist. While theories themselves are not facts, they do describe factual entities.
THen on top of all the criticism of religion, you zealots ignore that scientist do their own share of politics, out right lies, and goofs.
And those that do such things are routintely and regularly exposed for the charlatans they are or missteps they made. That is how science works. It's called peer review. How much peer review is done when the Pope (or rabbi or mullah or any other religious entity) says, "This is how you shall do things or else!"?
And when it comes to miracles, the Catholic Church applies all the known scientific methods and ideologies trying to disprove the miracle, only labeling things miracles that science CANT explain.
Close, but no cigar. While the Church might apply some scientific principles to prove or disprove a supposed miracle, it regularly excludes people and processes who can show how X miracle was done or explained.
Whats in the book is not believed because its in a book ...its believed because it is of God.
No, it's believed because someone tells you it is of God. There is zero proof to show that what is written actually came from an omnipotent being.
Its no surprise that you have illustrated the basic flaw in understanding faith.
Faith is belief in something without proof or requiring proof. What else is there to understand?
Imagine that. You offer a free service to people and they use it. Seems a bit odd to now say you're not making money because people aren't willing to pay for one of your other services.
To top it off, a technology company now claims they paid too much for you.
Those who cannot remember the past and all that comes to mind.
Ok, let me clarify. With the exception of the higher end sunglasses, I have not been able to find sunglasses which were not made in China.
Yes, I know Oakley and the like are out there but I'm not willing to spend $60 or more on a pair of sunglasses which I know for a fact I will drop on their lenses.
That and the fact that I can't find ones which fit me well or even look good on me.
So yes, you are correct in that there are sunglasses not made in China out there. The problem is one of cost.
While I will admit it is tough to not buy products made in China, I have found that with the exception of sunglasses and most electronics, I can buy the products I need which aren't made in China.
Granted, I'm the exception to most Americans in that I don't want or need a ton of stuff so I'm probably not a representative sample, but if one were to take the time and not buy products which are made in China, it can be done.
It's almost comical when I and my parents are out somewhere because both my dad and I look at where products are made. In fact, my dad refers to WalMart as "The China store". I'm sure some day someone in a store will ask what we're doing as we look at the labels on products. When that day occurs, I'll be happy to tell them why we're looking at the labels.
You mean Steve Forbes, right? The guy who said that oil would go back down to $55/barrel (or lower).
No wonder his father's wealth has been squandered. Yet, amazingly, financial hacks like Kudlow still have him on from time to time.
Of course it's flamebait. 'Fair and Balanced' means pointing out only the wacky, socialist ideas that Democrats have, never the same socialist ideas that Republicans have and have implemented.
And let's not get into the whole "smaller government" thing that Republicans continually tout. That would be heresy to point out the HUGE government expansion the Republicans have done, not to mention the Big Brother-esque, all-knowing-all-seeing spying programs.
So you're saying that Mitt Romney will be the next president? You remember Mitt, don't you? The Republican who forced the entire population of Massachusetts to buy health insurance or pay a fine, starting with confiscating any tax refund you may get.
You do mean the Republicans, don't you?
Your viewpoint and mine are exactly the same. I'm usually much more harsh when talking about this subject but I thought I'd tone it down this time.
As you said, it's obvious that people who are constantly being arrested have not learned from their prior experiences. There is no reason we as taxpayers should have to continue to house and feed these people. We do not have the time or resources to keep coddling these people. To use a recent example, a man was pulled over in New Hampshire for drunk driving. The man had something like 20 convictions for it already. He outright told the officer there is nothing he (the officer) can do to prevent him from driving. A clear cut case of removing someone from society who obviously has no regard for anyone.
As for the possibility of innocence, again, absolutely agree. Which is why I said in my inital post that there would be exceptions for those iffy cases. If there is even the slightest chance that the person is innocent, keep them in prison. Rather a guilty man live than execute an innocent man.
Or just do the right thing and execute the criminals with the only exceptions being the ones whose cases are iffy.
It's funny, isn't it? When a dog is considered a danger to the community we have no problem putting it down. It's an animal after all. However, when a human, another animal which supposedly has the ability to know right from wrong, kills/murders/rapes/whatever, we have no problem keeping them around.
You could always try the other way by using known titles and changing them. For instance:
How to kill a mockingbird
Blowing up the bridges of Madison County
Putting bullets through the looking glass
Attack the rear window
The Stand and shoot method
Soon this will all be a faded memory as the government will require everyone to board planes like this
And to think my mod points expired yesterday. Would someone please get this person to +5?
I have tried Slack 10 and Debian somethingorother (same time as Slack). By tried I mean, downloaded everything, put them on CD and did manual installs just to see what I would be getting myself into. Four installs of Slack and I got four different results. Two installs of Debian and I got two different results.
Now Ubuntu, as the OP has said, is for someone like me who wants to put their toes into the Linux pond. If I had an empty system I'd be more than happy to fiddle with Ubuntu and then, maybe, move on to other distros.
With a bit more handholding (i.e better documentation), I could see Ubuntu being used more and more by folks, like me, from the Windows crowd who want to both experiment and maybe eventually move to Linux.
Bzzzt! Wrong. Day 1 is nothing but a bunch of cells called a zygote which cannot be seen by the human eye.
At 5 weeks, the embryo is only 10mm (.3937007874 inches) in length.
It's not until the 18th week that the fetus approaches eight inches in length.
Done lying yet? Or does your God allow that?
According to Faux News there is. The New York Times, NBC and its offshoot MSNBC, they're all left-wing, America-hating, surrendering-is-the-only-option left-wing media.
I mean, an organization which has a tag line of "Fair and Balanced" can't be lying, can it?
The real question isn't whether he was forced to admit it, the real question is whether Fixed News has reported this If they didn't report it then it's simply the left-wing media trying to undermine our security by supporting the terrorists.
It's not a blanket filtering policy. I'm not sure which software we use, I know we were using WebSense for a while, but it's more about types of sites. For instance, "PasswordsRUs" wouldn't be blocked but "Hot Ass Babes!" would be. If someone comes across a legitimate site which is being blocked, it's a simple matter of requesting it be removed from the blocklist.
We mainly filter adult, gambling, auction, games and a few other major types of sites. News sites and the vast majority of other sites are not blocked.
I work for the government (state) and we use a proxy and filtering software. When the software was implemented, one person was (and maybe still is) logged trying to find ways to get to sites with the word 'ass' in them. You name it, he tried to get to it.
Go to the site directly? Yup. Didn't work. Go to Google then the site? Yup. Didn't work. Go to another site which somehow linked to the site. Yup. Didn't work. Tried to go to a site which provides ways of circumventing proxies? Yup. Couldn't get to the site.
From what I heard, the guy tried the same things every day, all the while we're logging his attempts. I don't know what, if anything has or will be done to him but since I'm not one who has a hand in such things, I will probably never know.
At least we know our filtering policy works.
would be proud. To think they spent all those decades defending their spying on their citizens to promote stability and security and here we are following their example.
What's really funny is I distinctively remember Reagan boasting to the world how open our society was, how our citizens could move about freely without presenting papers and didn't have to worry about their conversations being recorded by the state and used against them.
Oh well, it's for our security so it must be good! After all, if you have nothing to fear, then this won't affect you. If you complain, the terrorists win. We can't have that, can we?