BitTorrent clients also tend to use up a lot of memory because of the nature of BitTorrent.
However, azureus' memory use is more to do with the nature of Java. Opera is generally very lean and mean, it performs well on systems you wouldn't dream of trying to run azureus in. And do you want to have to use a separate program? I've found better ftp clients than my web browser, but why bother when all I want to do is download the file?
If the pipe is big enough, then it's faster, yes, but it's quite possible for update servers for various programs to either a) overload and not let you get them or b) go down to maybe 20kB/user bandwidth, in which case the torrent is better for the user.
I take it then that the servers hosting all these web pages cost nothing? And the power to run them is free?
No, but I am, or should be, making my own contribution with my own server. Everyone helps out, as much or little as they want. It's a commons.
And the time involved in programming was all donated?
Well, since I'm running apache, yes.
And the universities print their own money to maintain the connections?
No, but they do it for the community, or often for the benefits to themselves. Like when IBM or someone pays people to work on the linux kernel - they do it for what they get out of it, but they let everyone reap the benefits. If I have a wireless access point or run a cable to my neighbours, I'm contributing too.
Besides, if you want free internet, then go the public library and use their machines. If you want the conveinence of using it at home or at work, then you pay.
Why? If it can be free there, it can be free here.
The people from the town know about it and hate it (some of the family servants are still alive, and the woman wasn't actually very nice at all). Go there and sing it in the nastier parts of town and see how long it takes to get your head kicked in. Like yankee doodle in texas, so I hear.
The user was smart enough. He admits he knew about wep and deliberately didn't enable it. At that point it looks like he's making it publicly available.
It's just dumb to piggyback unless you have a really secure setup, and if you know that much, why don't you have your own wireless?
Because you're a poor student? I'd expect that's a lot of it. Young people know about technical matters, have the time to learn them, but not much dosh.
In this case the user obviously did not want people using his wifi.
I don't think it's at all obvious. He's said he knew how to secure it but didn't. He left it entirely publicly accessible, when it was very easy to make it not accessible. From outside it looks like it's there for the public to use.
They don't connect to your internet service. They connect to your router and send it packets. The packets have headers like "please send this to 212.159.61.65 if you can".
The router will normally forward them, and forward the replies back to you. But only if it's been set to, and it's your router, it's up to you how it does it. I've seen wireless routers that will not route packets onto the internet, only the internal network they are connected to. If that was what you wanted, you could have set it like that. If your access point allows me to connect without any shenanigans on my part, it is perfectly reasonable of me to send it well formed packets according to the standards for networking. If the router chooses to forward them, I think that implies that was the intended behaviour.
If it's an open network, there is no door and no fence. If you've made any effort to secure it, e.g. 40 bit encryption which airsnort cracks in 5 minutes, then fine, that's a marker saying that people shouldn't use it, and if they do then they deserve to be arrested. But an open access point looks like it's meant to be open.
He's not depriving them of it, and he's not having to enter their property. How about he's feeling thirsty, and looking for a drink, so he goes driving around looking for a tap on the outside of a building. He knows a lot of people have them, either because they want anyone to be able to come and take water, or, more likely, because if you don't bother telling the plumber how to set up your house then he leaves a tap on the outside. So he goes and takes a drink from a tap on the outside of someone's house. Would you see that as theft?
But you don't have to enter their house or anything. It's like using a plug on the outside wall, or something. As for why the internet should be free, it's because it doesn't really cost anything. All you connect to is other people's servers. If I'm serving web pages on my system, and getting pages from other people's systems, why should any of us have to pay? The only thing that costs is the links between us, but often they're maintained for everyone by universities or similar. That's how it started anyway.
And when you switch to SWT you lose the whole advantage of Java, which was the run anywhere aspect. To get eclipse to run on SkyOS, they'll have to not only get java running on it (a non trivial affair) but also port SWT to it (quite possibly a bigger undertaking. I bash swing a lot for its slowness, but the advantage it gets from doing every pixel in java is that you only need to port the very basic routines and then the rest is class files that can run on any system. Not so with SWT). At that point it becomes no easier than porting (for example) Qt or GTK and compiling linux apps for it. Java with SWT doesn't lower the barrier for new OS adoption at all.
But there wasn't any bucket. If he'd deliberately deleted files or something then fair enough. It rebooted PCs because of a stupid windows default setting, not any intent to cause damage.
No, but then you're (presumably) deliberately and maliciously causing damage. (I probably should have put that in too) If you burn my house down without trying to damage anything, I don't think you should go to prison. Pay for the damages you did, definitely, pay more in fines, sure.
If I install remote video surveilance in your bathroom, I don't take anything.
No, but you're doing it for personal gain.
If I duplicate your identity so that I can infiltrate the United States and destroy the Godless infidel, I don't take anything.
The crummy white plastic looks horrible once it's got scratched a bit (which it will have done after 6 months). You'd have to go some to look uglier than that.
What about that which was in its leaves when they fell off anualy? Seems to me they'd drop to the floor, and become part of the floor, and be compressed into solid carbon deposits (coal) over millions of years, hmm? So even if you burn the tree as it was when you cut it down, as long as you didn't collect up all the leaves every year it's still locked some CO2 away?
Not really, because he didn't take anything. He caused trouble for people, sure, but not for personal gain. I'd say it's more like "I was only curious about how big the air force base was, and how close I could get to the nuclear missiles before I got caught". Not good, and shouldn't go unpunished, but not something to get a prison sentence for.
I have found the hardware support better on linux. Really. It works perfectly with all my current hardware (my winmodem didn't support call waiting under linux, but still worked fine for connection). I have had less hardware issues than I have with windows, and some hardware working under linux that I didn't even know I had under windows.
Linux people tend to give you a lot of alternatives, making it sound more complicated. When you try and install it on windows and it doesn't work, what do you do? If I was going to give the same kind of instructions for linux I would say 1. download the file 2. run it. That's a little more complicated than "put the cd in", but only because they didn't include it on the cd. With a new UT it's just 1. put the cd in 2. run the program. That's one step more than windows, yes, but to my mind that's an acceptable security tradeoff, allowing any cd you put in to run random programs doesn't seem safe to me.
Linux is that easy. Plug in a typical digital camera on a modern distro and it will appear on your desktop, just like that, no need to use any cd. Printer is the same if it's one where the manufacturer gives information to the linux driver makers (not all, but both epson inkjets I've used with this machine has been that simple.) Just go to the KDE control center, printers section, click add printer and follow the wizard. I found getting my hardware to work in linux easier than on windows, because there was no need to mess around with driver cds.
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However, azureus' memory use is more to do with the nature of Java. Opera is generally very lean and mean, it performs well on systems you wouldn't dream of trying to run azureus in. And do you want to have to use a separate program? I've found better ftp clients than my web browser, but why bother when all I want to do is download the file?
If the pipe is big enough, then it's faster, yes, but it's quite possible for update servers for various programs to either a) overload and not let you get them or b) go down to maybe 20kB/user bandwidth, in which case the torrent is better for the user.
No, but I am, or should be, making my own contribution with my own server. Everyone helps out, as much or little as they want. It's a commons.
And the time involved in programming was all donated?
Well, since I'm running apache, yes.
And the universities print their own money to maintain the connections?
No, but they do it for the community, or often for the benefits to themselves. Like when IBM or someone pays people to work on the linux kernel - they do it for what they get out of it, but they let everyone reap the benefits. If I have a wireless access point or run a cable to my neighbours, I'm contributing too.
Besides, if you want free internet, then go the public library and use their machines. If you want the conveinence of using it at home or at work, then you pay.
Why? If it can be free there, it can be free here.
The people from the town know about it and hate it (some of the family servants are still alive, and the woman wasn't actually very nice at all). Go there and sing it in the nastier parts of town and see how long it takes to get your head kicked in. Like yankee doodle in texas, so I hear.
The user was smart enough. He admits he knew about wep and deliberately didn't enable it. At that point it looks like he's making it publicly available.
Because you're a poor student? I'd expect that's a lot of it. Young people know about technical matters, have the time to learn them, but not much dosh.
I don't think it's at all obvious. He's said he knew how to secure it but didn't. He left it entirely publicly accessible, when it was very easy to make it not accessible. From outside it looks like it's there for the public to use.
The router will normally forward them, and forward the replies back to you. But only if it's been set to, and it's your router, it's up to you how it does it. I've seen wireless routers that will not route packets onto the internet, only the internal network they are connected to. If that was what you wanted, you could have set it like that. If your access point allows me to connect without any shenanigans on my part, it is perfectly reasonable of me to send it well formed packets according to the standards for networking. If the router chooses to forward them, I think that implies that was the intended behaviour.
If it's an open network, there is no door and no fence. If you've made any effort to secure it, e.g. 40 bit encryption which airsnort cracks in 5 minutes, then fine, that's a marker saying that people shouldn't use it, and if they do then they deserve to be arrested. But an open access point looks like it's meant to be open.
He's not depriving them of it, and he's not having to enter their property. How about he's feeling thirsty, and looking for a drink, so he goes driving around looking for a tap on the outside of a building. He knows a lot of people have them, either because they want anyone to be able to come and take water, or, more likely, because if you don't bother telling the plumber how to set up your house then he leaves a tap on the outside. So he goes and takes a drink from a tap on the outside of someone's house. Would you see that as theft?
But you don't have to enter their house or anything. It's like using a plug on the outside wall, or something. As for why the internet should be free, it's because it doesn't really cost anything. All you connect to is other people's servers. If I'm serving web pages on my system, and getting pages from other people's systems, why should any of us have to pay? The only thing that costs is the links between us, but often they're maintained for everyone by universities or similar. That's how it started anyway.
And when you switch to SWT you lose the whole advantage of Java, which was the run anywhere aspect. To get eclipse to run on SkyOS, they'll have to not only get java running on it (a non trivial affair) but also port SWT to it (quite possibly a bigger undertaking. I bash swing a lot for its slowness, but the advantage it gets from doing every pixel in java is that you only need to port the very basic routines and then the rest is class files that can run on any system. Not so with SWT). At that point it becomes no easier than porting (for example) Qt or GTK and compiling linux apps for it. Java with SWT doesn't lower the barrier for new OS adoption at all.
If you turn the eycandy right down kde runs usably in 64mb. It's not fun, and don't run more than about 2 programs at once, but it's usable.
I follow logic based on the empirical finding that it gives more accurate predictions than anything else I've tried.
is still a dupe, especially when the note wasn't part of the actual submission
But there wasn't any bucket. If he'd deliberately deleted files or something then fair enough. It rebooted PCs because of a stupid windows default setting, not any intent to cause damage.
No, but then you're (presumably) deliberately and maliciously causing damage. (I probably should have put that in too) If you burn my house down without trying to damage anything, I don't think you should go to prison. Pay for the damages you did, definitely, pay more in fines, sure.
If I install remote video surveilance in your bathroom, I don't take anything.
No, but you're doing it for personal gain.
If I duplicate your identity so that I can infiltrate the United States and destroy the Godless infidel, I don't take anything.
You're doing it for personal gain though.
I'm not blaming all the American people, but as a nation the US is responsible. And it's the nation of the US that controls GPS, not the people.
The crummy white plastic looks horrible once it's got scratched a bit (which it will have done after 6 months). You'd have to go some to look uglier than that.
What about that which was in its leaves when they fell off anualy? Seems to me they'd drop to the floor, and become part of the floor, and be compressed into solid carbon deposits (coal) over millions of years, hmm? So even if you burn the tree as it was when you cut it down, as long as you didn't collect up all the leaves every year it's still locked some CO2 away?
Not really, because he didn't take anything. He caused trouble for people, sure, but not for personal gain. I'd say it's more like "I was only curious about how big the air force base was, and how close I could get to the nuclear missiles before I got caught". Not good, and shouldn't go unpunished, but not something to get a prison sentence for.
Forget them, sue the damn butterfly!
I have found the hardware support better on linux. Really. It works perfectly with all my current hardware (my winmodem didn't support call waiting under linux, but still worked fine for connection). I have had less hardware issues than I have with windows, and some hardware working under linux that I didn't even know I had under windows.
Linux people tend to give you a lot of alternatives, making it sound more complicated. When you try and install it on windows and it doesn't work, what do you do? If I was going to give the same kind of instructions for linux I would say 1. download the file 2. run it. That's a little more complicated than "put the cd in", but only because they didn't include it on the cd. With a new UT it's just 1. put the cd in 2. run the program. That's one step more than windows, yes, but to my mind that's an acceptable security tradeoff, allowing any cd you put in to run random programs doesn't seem safe to me.
Linux is that easy. Plug in a typical digital camera on a modern distro and it will appear on your desktop, just like that, no need to use any cd. Printer is the same if it's one where the manufacturer gives information to the linux driver makers (not all, but both epson inkjets I've used with this machine has been that simple.) Just go to the KDE control center, printers section, click add printer and follow the wizard. I found getting my hardware to work in linux easier than on windows, because there was no need to mess around with driver cds.