That could have been said about the switch to x86. Or the switch from Nubus to PCI. Or the switch away from ADB. I could go on.
Fact is, Apples have becoming more and more like standard PCs for the past decade at least. I see no reason not to expect this to continue - it seems to be working, and it almost certainly reduces their cost.
However, I don't see Apple switching to Windows after the big success of the unix-based OSX. Rather, I think it's more likely that over time OSX will become closer and closer to the unicies we're familiar with. It will ultimately be better for Apple to have "unix program" and "mac program" be one and the same - because it will mean more developers, more software for the mac, and ultimately more hardware sales.
First, that's fucked up - such a claim without basis in any actual cause would be pure bullshit just as saying that every single child molester drinks water, thus water causes people to molest children.
No, it would be like if only child molesters drank water I would claim drinking water causes people to molest children.
Second, your claims don't even fit your own criteria because the majority of applications that run on redhat are far and away Free, not proprietary.
A bank robber isn't always robbing banks. The question is not whether most applications run on it are proprietary, but whether most users are running proprietary applications.
The security flaw is allowing applications to have icons that look exactly like system icons for things. At least it isn't exacerbated by hiding file extensions by default like on windows, but it's still a problem.
Yes, this is a user stupidity issue. However, so is 99% of the malware windows gets trashed for.
This is a trojan, and if it replicates, then it's a file-propagating worm (as opposed to the e-mail- and network- propagating worms that plague Windows).
Erm, if it spreads via IM as the summary suggests, then it's exactly the same as what plagues windows. It may not technically be a virus under the original meaning of the term, but it's exactly the same thing as what we normally see called "viruses" on windows.
Didn't he actually exporting in a book, with an OCR friendly font, which wasn't actually covered by the regulations in question
No. MIT did it soon after in sort-of protest, and it was how the regulations were got around for later versions of PGP.
Since $NASTY_REGIME is a variable the list dosn't remain the same. Even if the regime in question remains the same the US Government's position towards it can change. That's before you consider the possibility of governments being replaced by a coup, revolution, even an election...
True, but there is a current list, and you're clearly violating the regulations if you export to a country which is on the list at the time you do so.
Am I correct in thinking though that 40 bits is still the line at which you become legally required to notify the government you're making crypto available?
Funny the U.S. government targets Phil Zimmermann for three years but hardly raises so much as an eye when an encryption enabled OS is distributed.
Not anymore, they have at last relaxed their restrictions, but they still did for a while - remember Debian nonus mirrors? The weak SSL in versions of IE4 shipped outside the US? OpenSSH having to be developed in Europe? The fact that you still have to download a separate file to get unlimited strength crypto in Java? And officially speaking you still have to notify the US government you're distributing strong encryption.
I think that his "criminal activity" was creating an encryption tool that allowed messages to be encrypted beyond what the United States government was capable of deciphering in a timely manner.
He was charged with exporting the munition - the problem wasn't so much that he'd created said encryption tool as that he'd put it on an ftp where $NASTY_REGIME could get it.
Does anyone know if this is still enforced?
As I said, officially speaking you have to notify the US government if you are exporting strong crypto from the US, and I think you're not allowed to directly export to anyone on their list of bad guys. In practice I don't think they care any more, crypto is so widely available.
Does anyone know what the max key length is now if it is? I think it was something like 128 bits (that the government could crack) around the time of PGP.
You weren't allowed to export more than 40, and AFAIK that hasn't changed.
They did it pretty quickly after the Real things started, and there was a change that quite clearly had no purpose other than stopping Real (I can't remember exactly, but IIRC it was changing an arbitrary-ish constant to half its previous value).
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Yes, but it would be false if the OP was using it accurately.
The choice is between 1) bad guys easily finding holes and many good guys patching them, or 2) bad guys finding holes with more difficulty and a few good guys patching them (or not, if the product is unmaintained).
True, but I don't think making it more difficult for the bad guys to find holes stops them to any great extent, especially in cases like this where they are directly making money from it.
the writers of the drivers, the makers of the hardware, etc. Though this being slashdot, I'd guess you'd be complaining about MS.
That's exactly it. People bash MS when their stability problems are due to crappy hardware with crappy drivers. I feel it's unfair that Apple don't have to put up with the same.
If that was what was happening, why didn't they just stop authenticating Real files, or perhaps more deviously, always give authentication for Real files, rather than going through the potentially-breaking-people's-devices extreme step of a firmware update?
Or perhaps people were pre-occupied with Yahoo!'s problem of being linked to spyware funding.
Hahahahaha. And google does precisely the same thing, as you'd see if you read a couple of paragraphs into the article you link to.
People are worried about Google's response to the government subpoena for info, but seem to turn a blind eye to Yahoo! complicity.
Worried? I see more mindless admiration "OMG they're so awesome for trying to fight this in court". And IIRC Yahoo made it clear everything was anonymised, something that Google's been very quiet about.
People are blasting Google for censoring Chinese search results, but the Shi Tao PR flap seems to have blown over for Yahoo!.
Look back at that threads, 3/4 of the posts in the google one were saying "They have no choice, if they want to operate in China they have to follow their laws". Yahoo got nothing but flames.
There have been complaints that Google uses OSS but doesn't contribute enough back, yet their overal social & business ethics seem to be better than Yahoo!'s.
How so? Remember when google takedown'd the guy offering RSS feeds of google news?
And how much redemption is there in a codebase that many developers have already created on their own?
Plenty, just look at all the database vendors getting it. But that's beside the point.
EVERYTHING gets cracked. If Google released PageRank, then they'd be starting a "war" with the search-engine abusers. A never ending war.
Like that doesn't happen now.
Yeah, having it be "open-source" means that the community could constantly update it to prevent the latest abuses, but the people doing the abuse would just find new holes, since the source would be available.
They would find holes anyway. The choice is between bad guys finding holes and good guys patching them, or just bad guys finding holes.
Sometimes "security through obscurity" is the right thing to do.
Not if you're relying on it. Because it isn't real security at all.
1a. To extend on the above, some people might justify their action by buying a copy of Mac OS X (PowerPC), and reasoning that they've "paid" for Mac OS X, and that therefore it's then okay to pirate Mac OS X (Intel) and use it as they wish.
How about buying an intel Mac, moving the OS onto another x86, and installing a replacement OS on the mac? (And even if you don't replace the OS on the mac, isn't it just a copy for private use and so legal?)
But, like it or not, this hurts Apple. *You* might not think it hurts Apple, but the only people in the position to *decide* that it hurts Apple - i.e., Apple - have decided that it *does* hurt Apple. Whether it's because of business model or arbitrary decision, that's their decision to make.
No. It was their decision to sell me the disc. They took my money, and gave me the disc in exchange for it. That is the sole extent of their involvement. If they didn't want me running it on my own choice of hardware, the choice they could have made is quite simple - don't sell the product.
And if there is law in certain countries/jurisdictions that allows companies to make that kind of determination, I do not see how operating within the bounds of law to protect oneself from injury - whether you are a person or a corporation - is inappropriate.
So if the law said I could get anyone who insulted me executed, you'd support me in doing that?
And here is where you lost me. When did Apple sue Real? As far as I know there has only been one lawsuit and it was Real suing Apple. What Apple did do was change the DRM authentication on the iPods to stop Real's hack from working, but seeing as Real was using Apple's servers to do the authentication I don't think anyone can really fault them for that.
It wasn't a server thing, it required changing the firmware on the ipods.
Erm, BS. Yahoo got nothing but flames when the story about them doing it was posted. Google got 3/4 of people saying "they have no choice, it's better than not being accessible from China at all". Google gets as much love as Apple, and it just kills me when people try and claim they're being persecuted.
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What, because once you go past that age your life becomes so dull and boring that dull and boring is all you want?
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Fact is, Apples have becoming more and more like standard PCs for the past decade at least. I see no reason not to expect this to continue - it seems to be working, and it almost certainly reduces their cost.
However, I don't see Apple switching to Windows after the big success of the unix-based OSX. Rather, I think it's more likely that over time OSX will become closer and closer to the unicies we're familiar with. It will ultimately be better for Apple to have "unix program" and "mac program" be one and the same - because it will mean more developers, more software for the mac, and ultimately more hardware sales.
No, it would be like if only child molesters drank water I would claim drinking water causes people to molest children.
Second, your claims don't even fit your own criteria because the majority of applications that run on redhat are far and away Free, not proprietary.
A bank robber isn't always robbing banks. The question is not whether most applications run on it are proprietary, but whether most users are running proprietary applications.
Koffice does it just as simply (format->page layout) and performs far better than either of them, IME.
But if you're hiding extensions, test.jpg and test.app will look the same. So this won't save users who are hiding extensions.
Yes, this is a user stupidity issue. However, so is 99% of the malware windows gets trashed for.
Erm, if it spreads via IM as the summary suggests, then it's exactly the same as what plagues windows. It may not technically be a virus under the original meaning of the term, but it's exactly the same thing as what we normally see called "viruses" on windows.
Face it, no OS is immune to these things.
No, it's their business strategy.
Do you blame Chrysler if a bunch of bank-robbers use a chrysler mini-van as their get-away vehicle?
No. However, if the majority of chrysler mini-van owners happen to be bank robbers, then I do.
No. MIT did it soon after in sort-of protest, and it was how the regulations were got around for later versions of PGP.
Since $NASTY_REGIME is a variable the list dosn't remain the same. Even if the regime in question remains the same the US Government's position towards it can change. That's before you consider the possibility of governments being replaced by a coup, revolution, even an election...
True, but there is a current list, and you're clearly violating the regulations if you export to a country which is on the list at the time you do so.
Am I correct in thinking though that 40 bits is still the line at which you become legally required to notify the government you're making crypto available?
Not anymore, they have at last relaxed their restrictions, but they still did for a while - remember Debian nonus mirrors? The weak SSL in versions of IE4 shipped outside the US? OpenSSH having to be developed in Europe? The fact that you still have to download a separate file to get unlimited strength crypto in Java? And officially speaking you still have to notify the US government you're distributing strong encryption.
I think that his "criminal activity" was creating an encryption tool that allowed messages to be encrypted beyond what the United States government was capable of deciphering in a timely manner.
He was charged with exporting the munition - the problem wasn't so much that he'd created said encryption tool as that he'd put it on an ftp where $NASTY_REGIME could get it.
Does anyone know if this is still enforced?
As I said, officially speaking you have to notify the US government if you are exporting strong crypto from the US, and I think you're not allowed to directly export to anyone on their list of bad guys. In practice I don't think they care any more, crypto is so widely available.
Does anyone know what the max key length is now if it is? I think it was something like 128 bits (that the government could crack) around the time of PGP.
You weren't allowed to export more than 40, and AFAIK that hasn't changed.
They did it pretty quickly after the Real things started, and there was a change that quite clearly had no purpose other than stopping Real (I can't remember exactly, but IIRC it was changing an arbitrary-ish constant to half its previous value).
Yes, but it would be false if the OP was using it accurately.
True, but I don't think making it more difficult for the bad guys to find holes stops them to any great extent, especially in cases like this where they are directly making money from it.
If a feature's worth having it's worth having built in - Opera demonstrates that it doesn't have to cause problems with the UI or bloat.
That's exactly it. People bash MS when their stability problems are due to crappy hardware with crappy drivers. I feel it's unfair that Apple don't have to put up with the same.
If that was what was happening, why didn't they just stop authenticating Real files, or perhaps more deviously, always give authentication for Real files, rather than going through the potentially-breaking-people's-devices extreme step of a firmware update?
Hahahahaha. And google does precisely the same thing, as you'd see if you read a couple of paragraphs into the article you link to.
People are worried about Google's response to the government subpoena for info, but seem to turn a blind eye to Yahoo! complicity.
Worried? I see more mindless admiration "OMG they're so awesome for trying to fight this in court". And IIRC Yahoo made it clear everything was anonymised, something that Google's been very quiet about.
People are blasting Google for censoring Chinese search results, but the Shi Tao PR flap seems to have blown over for Yahoo!.
Look back at that threads, 3/4 of the posts in the google one were saying "They have no choice, if they want to operate in China they have to follow their laws". Yahoo got nothing but flames.
There have been complaints that Google uses OSS but doesn't contribute enough back, yet their overal social & business ethics seem to be better than Yahoo!'s.
How so? Remember when google takedown'd the guy offering RSS feeds of google news?
And how much redemption is there in a codebase that many developers have already created on their own?
Plenty, just look at all the database vendors getting it. But that's beside the point.
Responsiveness, and "feel", which I know is a terrible thing to quantify. But it feels slow.
Like that doesn't happen now.
Yeah, having it be "open-source" means that the community could constantly update it to prevent the latest abuses, but the people doing the abuse would just find new holes, since the source would be available.
They would find holes anyway. The choice is between bad guys finding holes and good guys patching them, or just bad guys finding holes.
Sometimes "security through obscurity" is the right thing to do.
Not if you're relying on it. Because it isn't real security at all.
How about buying an intel Mac, moving the OS onto another x86, and installing a replacement OS on the mac? (And even if you don't replace the OS on the mac, isn't it just a copy for private use and so legal?)
But, like it or not, this hurts Apple. *You* might not think it hurts Apple, but the only people in the position to *decide* that it hurts Apple - i.e., Apple - have decided that it *does* hurt Apple. Whether it's because of business model or arbitrary decision, that's their decision to make.
No. It was their decision to sell me the disc. They took my money, and gave me the disc in exchange for it. That is the sole extent of their involvement. If they didn't want me running it on my own choice of hardware, the choice they could have made is quite simple - don't sell the product.
And if there is law in certain countries/jurisdictions that allows companies to make that kind of determination, I do not see how operating within the bounds of law to protect oneself from injury - whether you are a person or a corporation - is inappropriate.
So if the law said I could get anyone who insulted me executed, you'd support me in doing that?
And you think it's fair that they currently do that to MS but not to Apple?
It wasn't a server thing, it required changing the firmware on the ipods.
Erm, BS. Yahoo got nothing but flames when the story about them doing it was posted. Google got 3/4 of people saying "they have no choice, it's better than not being accessible from China at all". Google gets as much love as Apple, and it just kills me when people try and claim they're being persecuted.
What, because once you go past that age your life becomes so dull and boring that dull and boring is all you want?
Fine, but then explain why more Americans have a preference for gnome.