.. probably not.. because I can just see him getting drilled by tough questions a la Tony Blair during his campaign speech / open discussion in front of some UK youngsters.
I agree, the lack of file transfer... webcam support... and voice chat support is a HUGE deterant for many people I know who hate Windows but just aren't satisfied with things like this on Linux. There is only ONE... count 'em... ONE Linux app that can do webcam/voice chat... and that's gyach-e. I use it for webcam/voice over Yahoo!. It also supports Yahoo! Chat. Sadly it's a very cluttered UI... and does not support any protocol other than Yahoo!. Also, if you have some bizarro webcam... give it up, it will likely not work. Installing is difficult.... pray there is a RPM package. Gyach-e isn't even IN PORTAGE. If you're lucky and on x86; you can extract a binary package straight into your root filesystem; and that's the EASY way to install.
Is this the BEST the F/OSS community can do in this regard? The UI/abilities to talk on GAIM/Kopete are great.... however the extra features.. the ones that really make for a great experience talking to distant friend x like webcam and voice etc.... might as well be non-existant on Linux... and that's a shame.
Last I saw; the best effort to create mainstream cam/voice outside of the incredibly complicated gyach-e is a fork of GAIM they hope to back-port when they are done. It's not doing so hot last I tried it out (~8 months ago). I know one of the BIG hurdles with getting cam/voice to work seamlessly in Linux is standards, but thankfully ALSA/Video4Linux are emerging as standards (in a dirty off the record nearly everybody has to migrate to them sort of way).
As a Gentoo user.... it took gyach-e to be able to delete my Windows XP partition. I simply *had to have* cam/voice for communicating with distant people close to me personally. I imagine I am by no means the only one who feels this way.
There is ***ALOT*** of room for improvement in this area on Linux. It's the real black eye of an otherwise lovely experience for people trying out Linux for the first time.
It's a conspiracy! It's all set up by Michael Crichton so he can merge Disclosure and Timeline into one dual book for $40.
On a more serious note... a fully operational quantum computing device in 3 years? Did they borrow their marketing/timeline departments from the Longhorn division of Micro$oft?
But as long as IP is the latest rage in making money you shouldn't otherwise have, most Americans are too ignorant and/or don't care enough, and people in Washington, DC can be bought... the MPAA and RIAA and all their unsightly relatives will continue to push for crap like this and, in general, get most of what they want.
In an ideal world, most Americans would keep abreast of and care about what is going on in DC through a fair news source that just gives you the facts -- and all of them. Just a guess here, but I'm guessing some important things were going on while everybody was at Runaway Bride DefCon 4. In said ideal world, politicians who wanted to keep their jobs wouldn't dare pass crap like the DMCA, Patriot Act, etc.
Bob 1: And uh, oh yea, we're getting rid of Michael Bolton and Samir Nayeenanajar.
Peter Gibbons: You're getting rid of Michael and Samir?
Bob 2: Yea. We'll bring in some cheap workers from overseas. Standard procedure.
Gentoo strongly supports the FHS standard, as do Debian and others from what I've heard. LSB is not strong enough to get what people want from a standard (ease of use, more driver support, etc). When will a standard like FHS become widely adopted?
1) A software installer comes along that blends portage with apt-get. Compiling from source will not go away. Downloading binaries will no go away. So there needs to be one that does BOTH at the user's preference.
2) Distros want to play ball with one another. I want to physically abuse every developer that goes "Distro X sucks ass" "Distro Y does this some retarded way" There's alot of ego, elitism, and ignorance preventing cooperation out there... and it needs to stop. When the big players representing all aspects of Linux deployment (Red Hat, Mandriva, SuSe, Gentoo, Debian, Slackware, Ubuntu, Xandros, Linspire) all get together and decide to REALLY be competitive on the desktop market... and stop the bickering crap... that's when things will progress. The distros need to realize, and Ben Franklin did long ago... "We must hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang seperately." Together the distros yield the power to standardize and push deep into the heart of M$ market share. Seperately, they possess the power to waste alot of effort battling each other, much to the delight of M$. And yes, this means some distros will have ground up reworking to do. The rewards justify the work. So stop your bitching.
3) It becomes high enough priority to begin rejecting software binaries / ebuilds that do not comply. It needs to take an act of Linus.. errr... God... to get non-compliant software included.
But I've discovered it's really an ancient Linux (kernel 0.2.1), where all console output is put on paper. What did they find important enough to try and save? Apparently the following command, entered over and over:
$ fortune
Take the consultants into a back office... sealed off but still visible to all employees. Have a manilla folder with their names on it ready. Open the folder slowly... and look in it some. Exchange a glance with your partner in crime... also on your side of the table... then ask them in a calm yet concerned voice....
"What would ya say... you DO... here at Initech? Hmmm?"
You forgot to read the "no pompous pricks" disclaimer in my post. However, it is NOT noisy (certainly ubergenius like yourself has memorized blueprints??). It is not hot for the same reason. Own said sound card like I do before you whine, and those speakers are near theatre quality. "Stupid" peripherals are necessary for netconferencing.. but I guess you use telepathic powers?
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$201 | Lian Li Black ATX Full Tower, PC-75B, transparent panel
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Think of the god awful Gentoo Linux power... why, my Folding@Home scores would be just obscene.
I think my first born is in danger.......
I wonder how much it'd cost to have Steve Ballmer dance as my private monkey for a day. Dance monkey boy dance! YEAAAAAAA GET UP!!! DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS!!!!
Google DOES NOT spider dynamicly created webpages. If you have, say for example, forums... it will spider only the first page. Yahoo, however, will spider the dynamic content [though with a limit to assure it doesn't get caught in a bot trap].
Does this version come with Bill Gates on the front, wearing a monocle and holding a small metal battleship? Inside is there a card reading "Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200"? In this box are there a bunch of property cards, all strangly stamped "Property of Microsoft. See reverse side for property EULA."?
If South Korea is so anti-american, why is Kia actively expanding its US-based holding, and still selling at a WELL below standard price when they have the leeway to bump it up more and still outdo the competition?
If I was in Asia, I'd use Linux for the virus storms alone. How many major bot net attacks and virus storms have come from Asia over the last half decade? I know some network guys that, when under heavy virus attack, block the entire friggin' continent of Asia** at the router... and it tends to help early on before security-hole ridden Windows machines this side of the pond become part of the problem post-infection.
**Is there anybody else who can't say Asia without seeing John Travolta as played by Darrell Hammond on SNL trying to answer the audio daily double? Name this continent.... Aaaaasiaaaaaa.
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.. probably not .. because I can just see him getting drilled by tough questions a la Tony Blair during his campaign speech / open discussion in front of some UK youngsters.
I agree, the lack of file transfer... webcam support... and voice chat support is a HUGE deterant for many people I know who hate Windows but just aren't satisfied with things like this on Linux. There is only ONE... count 'em... ONE Linux app that can do webcam/voice chat... and that's gyach-e. I use it for webcam/voice over Yahoo!. It also supports Yahoo! Chat. Sadly it's a very cluttered UI... and does not support any protocol other than Yahoo!. Also, if you have some bizarro webcam... give it up, it will likely not work. Installing is difficult.... pray there is a RPM package. Gyach-e isn't even IN PORTAGE. If you're lucky and on x86; you can extract a binary package straight into your root filesystem; and that's the EASY way to install.
.... it took gyach-e to be able to delete my Windows XP partition. I simply *had to have* cam/voice for communicating with distant people close to me personally. I imagine I am by no means the only one who feels this way.
Is this the BEST the F/OSS community can do in this regard? The UI/abilities to talk on GAIM/Kopete are great.... however the extra features.. the ones that really make for a great experience talking to distant friend x like webcam and voice etc.... might as well be non-existant on Linux... and that's a shame.
Last I saw; the best effort to create mainstream cam/voice outside of the incredibly complicated gyach-e is a fork of GAIM they hope to back-port when they are done. It's not doing so hot last I tried it out (~8 months ago). I know one of the BIG hurdles with getting cam/voice to work seamlessly in Linux is standards, but thankfully ALSA/Video4Linux are emerging as standards (in a dirty off the record nearly everybody has to migrate to them sort of way).
As a Gentoo user
There is ***ALOT*** of room for improvement in this area on Linux. It's the real black eye of an otherwise lovely experience for people trying out Linux for the first time.
On a more serious note... a fully operational quantum computing device in 3 years? Did they borrow their marketing/timeline departments from the Longhorn division of Micro$oft?
But as long as IP is the latest rage in making money you shouldn't otherwise have, most Americans are too ignorant and/or don't care enough, and people in Washington, DC can be bought... the MPAA and RIAA and all their unsightly relatives will continue to push for crap like this and, in general, get most of what they want. In an ideal world, most Americans would keep abreast of and care about what is going on in DC through a fair news source that just gives you the facts -- and all of them. Just a guess here, but I'm guessing some important things were going on while everybody was at Runaway Bride DefCon 4. In said ideal world, politicians who wanted to keep their jobs wouldn't dare pass crap like the DMCA, Patriot Act, etc.
So THAT'S what it takes to control viruses on Windows... make it a virus to begin with!
The lawsuit DID NOT come on a gray brushed metal background. It DID NOT have a "clean, simple, efficient, and effective" layout. AWFUL!
The standard could easily require a VERY small percentage return on profit which then goes back to the venture capitalists... easy yet rewarding.
Bob 1: And uh, oh yea, we're getting rid of Michael Bolton and Samir Nayeenanajar.
Peter Gibbons: You're getting rid of Michael and Samir?
Bob 2: Yea. We'll bring in some cheap workers from overseas. Standard procedure.
*both Bobs nod*
[/Office Space]
Donate money to a standard (FHS) which can then reward distros for compliance with $$$.
It provides motivation to achieve the great end result (driver support, ease of use, unification of major players, etc).
Null Pointer Exception in books.java.javacompilerissatan.viewbookcover.java
1) A software installer comes along that blends portage with apt-get. Compiling from source will not go away. Downloading binaries will no go away. So there needs to be one that does BOTH at the user's preference.
2) Distros want to play ball with one another. I want to physically abuse every developer that goes "Distro X sucks ass" "Distro Y does this some retarded way" There's alot of ego, elitism, and ignorance preventing cooperation out there... and it needs to stop. When the big players representing all aspects of Linux deployment (Red Hat, Mandriva, SuSe, Gentoo, Debian, Slackware, Ubuntu, Xandros, Linspire) all get together and decide to REALLY be competitive on the desktop market... and stop the bickering crap... that's when things will progress. The distros need to realize, and Ben Franklin did long ago... "We must hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang seperately." Together the distros yield the power to standardize and push deep into the heart of M$ market share. Seperately, they possess the power to waste alot of effort battling each other, much to the delight of M$. And yes, this means some distros will have ground up reworking to do. The rewards justify the work. So stop your bitching.
3) It becomes high enough priority to begin rejecting software binaries / ebuilds that do not comply. It needs to take an act of Linus .. errr... God... to get non-compliant software included.
But I've discovered it's really an ancient Linux (kernel 0.2.1), where all console output is put on paper. What did they find important enough to try and save? Apparently the following command, entered over and over:
$ fortune
"What would ya say... you DO ... here at Initech? Hmmm?"
Troll pts for that? I see we have a consultant mod in the house.
... they have make huge deals out of everything or risk being found out as mostly useless ;)
You forgot to read the "no pompous pricks" disclaimer in my post. However, it is NOT noisy (certainly ubergenius like yourself has memorized blueprints??). It is not hot for the same reason. Own said sound card like I do before you whine, and those speakers are near theatre quality. "Stupid" peripherals are necessary for netconferencing.. but I guess you use telepathic powers?
Please contain your ignorance -- I installed Gentoo in 2 hours on a PIV.
Gentoo Linux Portage has everything I will ever need. K thanks bye.
$445 | IWILL DK8X Motherboard, 3Com 3C940 Gigabit Ethernet, onboard SATA/RAID controller
$100 | Zalman CNPS7000B-Cu "big freakin' hunk of quiet copper cooling" (two)
$201 | Lian Li Black ATX Full Tower, PC-75B, transparent panel
$445 | I-Star 500Wx500W Dual PSU TC-500R8A
$187 | Western Digital Raptor, 74 GB, 10,000 RPM IDE
$528 | Western Digital 300 GB, 7,200 RPM IDE (three)
$979 | OCZ EL Platinum RV-2 Dual Channel Kit, 2-2-2-5, (512MBx2) (four)
$64 | Pioneer DVR-109 DVD+RW/-RW CD-RW drive
$15 | Hi-Val Floppy Drive (best part of the machine here!!)
$33 | Logitech Cordless Desktop Keyboard and Mouse
$25 | Wireless Logitech Trackball (screw the dinky mouse in the one above)
$170 | HD 3000 Linux compat HDTV card
$80 | Sound Blaster Audigy MP3+
$270 | Logitech Z-5500 5.1 Digital Surround Sound System
$2359 | EPSON PowerLite 821p LCD Multimedia Projector
$1642 | Sony SDM-P234/B 23" Wide Screen Flat Panel LCD
$529 | MSI nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra, 256 MB DDR3, 256-bit, Dual DVI, TV-Out
$649 | HP Officejet 7140xi All-In-One
$46 | Belkin Isolator IPF 8-outlet surge protector, 2960 joule protection
$28 | Creative WebCam Instant USB Webcam
$8 | Labtec PC Microphone
$300 | Bose QuietComfort2 Acoust Noise Cancelling Headphones
===========
GRAND TOTAL: $9,529
Think of the god awful Gentoo Linux power... why, my Folding@Home scores would be just obscene.
I think my first born is in danger.......
I wonder how much it'd cost to have Steve Ballmer dance as my private monkey for a day. Dance monkey boy dance!
YEAAAAAAA GET UP!!! DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS!!!!
Then perhaps you have an explanation as to why Yahoo has well over THREE TIMES more indexed pages than Google for a set of message boards?
Google DOES NOT spider dynamicly created webpages. If you have, say for example, forums... it will spider only the first page. Yahoo, however, will spider the dynamic content [though with a limit to assure it doesn't get caught in a bot trap].
Cedega. WineX. I have YET to purchase a game I can't run in Linux. Are you Steve Ballmer gamer edition?
Does this version come with Bill Gates on the front, wearing a monocle and holding a small metal battleship? Inside is there a card reading "Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200"? In this box are there a bunch of property cards, all strangly stamped "Property of Microsoft. See reverse side for property EULA."?
Once you know what it's all about... whenever it's close, you can't resist the temptation to hit the crap out of it. It's theraputic.
If I was in Asia, I'd use Linux for the virus storms alone. How many major bot net attacks and virus storms have come from Asia over the last half decade? I know some network guys that, when under heavy virus attack, block the entire friggin' continent of Asia** at the router... and it tends to help early on before security-hole ridden Windows machines this side of the pond become part of the problem post-infection.
**Is there anybody else who can't say Asia without seeing John Travolta as played by Darrell Hammond on SNL trying to answer the audio daily double? Name this continent.... Aaaaasiaaaaaa.