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Bacteria Made to Behave as Computers

hende_jman writes "Scientists at Princeton University successfully 'programmed bacteria to behave like computers, assembling themselves into complex shapes based on instructions stuffed into their genes.' Though applications may not come for awhile, the article says that in the future this technology may be used in devices to detect bioterrorism chemicals. The article also has pictures of the programmed E. coli."

303 comments

  1. Call me cynical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Though applications may not come for awhile, the article says that in the future this technology may be used in devices to detect bioterrorism chemicals.

    Call me cynical, but I think this technology will be used in devices to make and control bioterrorism chemicals. And not necessarily by the "bad guys" either.

    1. Re:Call me cynical... by Trent05 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So "Good Guy" terrorists are going to make and control bioterrorism chemicals???

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    2. Re:Call me cynical... by Justin205 · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...also known as "The Government of the United States of America"...

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    3. Re:Call me cynical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry I can't come into work today, I caught my computer's virus...

    4. Re:Call me cynical... by Trent05 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Whew! Just making sure the "USA = Evil, everyone else on the planet is good and only does evil things because of the US" groupthink mindset was still in place.

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    5. Re:Call me cynical... by pugnatious · · Score: 1

      Bacteria are easy to genetically engineer and have been a major ingredient in the active sludge used in water purification plants. Now if you could program bacteria to break toxic substances you could also program them to produce them.
      A clever terrorist would program his bacteria to only produce toxins once a certain set of criteria has been met. For example you could program them to start producing neurotoxins once the temperature drops to 4C (average temperature in a refrigerator) or once the amount of sunligt reaches a certain level etc. This would allow for better, more discriminating and hard to detect and identify chemical/biological weapons.
      Think of computer viruses - for each way they find to detect and neutralize them, there will be several ways to circumvent it.
      YAY!

    6. Re:Call me cynical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reminds me of that episode of X-files (S.R. 819) where Skinner is infected with microbial(?) robotic agents that block the flow of blood upon activation by a radio signal. (No, I am not a big x-files geek, only that I remember that episode, among a few others.)

    7. Re:Call me cynical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In a post-9/11 world, anti-terrorism is where it's at man! Why am I baking a loaf of bread right now? Anti-terrorism of course!

    8. Re:Call me cynical... by dr+eldritch · · Score: 2, Informative

      What you've got to understand is that "programming" cells to aggregate in a predictable fashion does not confer any new toxic properties to the cells...just the shape of the "tissue" that they are forming. The cells retain all of their old toxin-producing capabilities--should they have them--and are otherwise uninfluenced. In fact, scientists have been able to modify bacterial genomes for years with plasmid cloning...we've long had the ability to insert new genes into bacteria to make them more virulent. This "novel" technique merely uses old plasmid cloning and gene splicing technology to make the bacteria act in a predictable fashion in the presence of some local environmental cue, thus allowing them to serve as indicators of something in the environemnt when touched with it. Nevertheless, if you really want to be paranoid about something, look up the article published in Nature about 1.5 years or so ago wherein a couple of scientists reported building a smallpox virus from scratch. That's right. From scratch. It was accomplished after about 2 weeks worth of work.

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  2. New Programming language by hattan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bacteria.NET Sharp

    1. Re:New Programming language by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a couple of half-full bottles of Deus Equis that, by the looks of it, could power one of these computers for a few months, symmetrically.

    2. Re:New Programming language by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Er Dos, I think I may have drank one by mistake.

    3. Re:New Programming language by Acts+of+Attrition · · Score: 1

      So our bacteria computers can get a virus that's actually a virus?
      My head a-splode!

    4. Re:New Programming language by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Soon we will have MS Windows for Amoeba !

      Oh... wait...

    5. Re:New Programming language by darkpixel2k · · Score: 1

      ...and when your program crashes, you suddenly come down with a strange new variant of the flu...

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    6. Re:New Programming language by sillybilly · · Score: 1

      What's the execution speed? Forget about MHz (i.e. million instructions per second), how about 1 instruction/day? Imagine trying to debug such code :)

    7. Re:New Programming language by rapidweather · · Score: 1
      Bacteria Made to Behave as Computers, eh?

      Well I'll talk to all the little germs in my kitchen and see if they can arrange themselves into a new box for me!

  3. swell... by ErichTheWebGuy · · Score: 4, Funny

    First, they made armed autonomous robots, now it's smart bacteria that is potentially deadly... All that remains now is for the two to team up against their human opressors. I feel good about it.

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    1. Re:swell... by rakeswell · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, someone yesterday made a comment about when they were in school, they were exhorted to list in their papers any military applications the technology might have in order to ensure securing additional research funding, etc. That was the first thing I thought of when I read "...this technology may be used in devices to detect bioterrorism chemicals."

      Sounds we'll be seeing a lot of technology with terrorism-fighting potential for a while to come.

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    2. Re:swell... by GQuon · · Score: 1

      I have to admit, one of the funniest products is slippery slime. Should be used in perimiter security around all potential targets of terrorism. :-)

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    3. Re:swell... by Jonny_eh · · Score: 1

      War is the mother of invention. But who's the father?

    4. Re:swell... by zCyl · · Score: 1

      This is quite true, but it's probably indicative of some serious underlying problems with the priorities of society. The advancement of the species is limited if we base the bulk of our funding on our fears.

  4. Imagine... by robpoe · · Score: 5, Funny

    A Beow ... nevermind .. screw it..

    I for one wel... naw, screw it

    In Soviet Russia .. The bacter... laaaaame

    the GN... err .. nevermind

    Hmmm..

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    1. Re:Imagine... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, it doesn't run Linux. But it can have VIRUSES! :D

    2. Re:Imagine... by Frodo+Crockett · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, but do they run Linux?

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    3. Re:Imagine... by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 3, Funny

      In other news, bacteria living in the intestines of a programmer have learned C and are attempting to write, well, really crappy code.

    4. Re:Imagine... by Dead+Kitty · · Score: 4, Funny

      A Beow ... nevermind .. screw it..

      Can you imagine a culture of these things?

    5. Re:Imagine... by Smidge204 · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, the Beowulf cluster of welcomed Biological Computing Overlords make Linux run on YOU!

      =Smidge=

    6. Re:Imagine... by tritonic · · Score: 1

      I think we might have found out why Sarge is taking so long now...

  5. you know where to get e. Coli? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft!

    Ha.

    1. Re:you know where to get e. Coli? by LordEd · · Score: 1

      Bacteria follows a windows model. Starts small on your system, but will grow and take more of your resources. It will grow until you either medicate the host (misc repair utils, uninstall, etc), or the host simply dies (reformat).

    2. Re:you know where to get e. Coli? by pklong · · Score: 1

      Presumably you get iColi from Apple and gnuColi from Redhat?

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  6. Them bugs.. by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Funny
    "Is that the old Life simulation?"

    "No, it's a diagnostic."

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  7. Blood Music? by Scud · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anybody else have visions of the Greg Bear book "Blood Music" when you read this?

    http://www.allscifi.com/Topics/info_5673.asp?BSID= 17562821

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    1. Re:Blood Music? by fishing · · Score: 1

      Yep. It's a sign o' the end times, if ever there was...

    2. Re:Blood Music? by daveytay · · Score: 1

      FANTASTIC Book

    3. Re:Blood Music? by Threni · · Score: 1

      Personally I was more remind of "A Higher Form of Killing", by Jeremy Paxman (yes, that one!) and Robert Harris:

      http://www.namebase.org/sources/IA.html
      http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0812966538/ qid%3D1114776015/sr%3D8-2/ref%3Dsr_8_xs_ap_i2_xgl/ 103-6502353-7703864

      Mentions work on `patriotic` (ie designed to attack only people of a given genetic makeup) germs, the possible origins of AIDS etc. A good read.

    4. Re:Blood Music? by Snowdog668 · · Score: 1

      I loved it as a short story but as a book it just didn't work for me. He just seemed to ramble on into nothing. It just became a typical "End of the World" story, well, end of life as we know it anyway. That and the fact that even the novel version was only a 90 minute read makes it seem to me that he really didn't have much else to say.

      I've liked a couple other of his novels that I've read. Perhaps if I hadn't read the short story first (several times) I would have appreciated the novel version more...

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    5. Re:Blood Music? by sunhorse · · Score: 0

      Absolutely. The Noosphere is coming.

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    6. Re:Blood Music? by Scud · · Score: 1

      Sorry about the late reply, No WWW for me during the weekends :)

      The book sounds interesting, I'll see about picking up a copy.

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    7. Re:Blood Music? by Threni · · Score: 1

      Cool. If you're not from the UK, bear in mind that Paxman isn't just some tinfoil hat wearing kook - he just finished interviewing, for the BBC, Tony Blair and his main two rivals for power in the UK election (which is on Thursday).

  8. Virus by AFairlyNormalPerson · · Score: 4, Interesting

    All they need to do now is do this to a virus... then maybe we can give the virus a virus. Kinda funny, but it would be cool if it led to the desctuction of aids.

    1. Re:Virus by zbyte64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Here's the flaw with that simple idea:

      Viruses are simply encapsulated DNA with simple crap - they don't manufacture anything. Instead they use other cells to manufacture more of themselves. So a Virus for a Virus would mean for every bad virus in your system, you would need one anti manufactured. Anyevent, now if u had engineered bacteria that i guess would be the equivilant of a "honeypot" in that a viral latches on, but the engineered bacteria destroys incomming DNA etc. But then that would mean the bacteria would be very resistant to various forms of genetic therapy. Just imagine what would happen if the bacteria grew out of control (they need a food source), or mutated into something rlly bad. Do i need to elaborate?

      Anyways, im more worried about new bacteria that is now resistant to antibacterial soap and such. Many of those strains are friggen hard to kill. Granted i could imagine engineering bacteria to kill this.

      I know im just rambling on here, so lemme just sum up what would probably needed to be done to help ensure this new disease fighting bacteria doesn't become our worse nightmare:
      Engineered life cycle, ie a counter for how many times the bacteria can reproduce
      Possible activating agent? Have these bacteria only work if a certain protein is present, etc
      Deactivating agent - simply again, something innate that can be introduced into the blood stream that would cause the bacteria to dismantle itself.
      The odds of the bacteria mutating such that the life cycle and the deactivating agent is ignored before the life cycle is expired would hopefully be enough. Then also consider your body's natural immune system,

      I have no clue how long it would be before bioengineers can do all this, but it is most exiciting

    2. Re:Virus by NichG · · Score: 1

      Trying to put detailed controls on the things is probably a losing proposition. Think of it this way - a bacterium with those controls is less well-adapted than one without it, so if you're trying to introduce that control as a protection against a hostile mutation, then its just as likely that a mutation removes the control as it is that it introduces some other negative effect.

      As far as the dangers of genetic engineering, I'm not all that convinced there's much we can do to directly make something that accidentally becomes worse than the stuff already out there. Bacteria have short life cycles so they're one of the few things that can evolve about as fast as we can think up new stuff. So really we have more to fear in the sense of introducing new selection pressures (i.e. antibacterial soap) rather than having some lab-produced superbacterium (if its that good, it would've been done some time in the last billion years). After all, bacteria evolved us over that time span, and thats a far more complex change than tinkering with a few base pairs is going to cause.

      So we might as well start and see what we can come up with. Intestinal bacteria do seem like a good place to start: since they already have a symbiotic relation with us, you'd expect it to be easy to introduce human-useful variations into the population without causing a major upset like trying to introduce a totally foreign species of bacteria.

    3. Re:Virus by SagaLore · · Score: 0

      Viruses are simply encapsulated DNA with simple crap - they don't manufacture anything. Instead they use other cells to manufacture more of themselves. So a Virus for a Virus would mean for every bad virus in your system, you would need one anti manufactured. Anyevent, now if u had engineered bacteria that i guess would be the equivilant of a "honeypot" in that a viral latches on, but the engineered bacteria destroys incomming DNA etc. But then that would mean the bacteria would be very resistant to various forms of genetic therapy. Just imagine what would happen if the bacteria grew out of control (they need a food source), or mutated into something rlly bad. Do i need to elaborate?

      Sure, the honeypot idea is what we need. Modify a bacteria with the protein coat of a T-Helper cell. HIV will attempt to connect with it, but cannot injects it's RNA. The bacterium will act as fly tape - once it's completely enveloped in HIV, it can no longer survive, and dies. This dead bacterium with a graveyard of HIV gets flushed out of the system.

      In the meantime, a 2nd genetically altered bacteria contains the instructions to create a genetically altered virus. This new virus infects the Hosts T-Helper cells with a "patch" - which stops them from creating new HIV viruses if it were to be infected by one.

      To balance the count and prevent spread to another host, a control would be setup that makes these two bacteria mutually dependent on each other. They can only replicate asexually when each bacteria version (stickycell and patchcell) conjugates. The trigger for conjugation will be when an F-Factor tube is created by the stickycell only after an HIV has bonded to a receptor in it's protein coat. When the last of the HIV have been eradicated, replication stops, T-Helper cell patching stops, and everything for the most part goes back to normal.

    4. Re:Virus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A Virus vs. a virus... Could turn out to be something like Core Wars.

  9. Medical Potential by Fox_1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The researchers programmed E. coli bacteria to emit red or green fluorescent light in response to a signal emitted from another set of E. coli. The living cells were commanded to make a bull's-eye pattern, for example, around central cells based on communication between the bacteria. The bacteria "have an exquisite capability to sense molecules in the environment," he said.( Ron Weiss) "The bull's-eye could tell you: This is where the anthrax is."
    Pretty fascinating stuff, stuff like bacteria and viruses have been kicking our asses for years really, sure antibiotics gave us a temporary edge, but now we have super dooper antibiotic resistant versions. All our approaches have really been hit and miss, but now we can develop and program our own little bacteria super soldiers and fight them on their own terms with intelligent strategy backing us up.

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    1. Re:Medical Potential by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just make sure that Microsoft isn't the one doing the programming :-P

    2. Re:Medical Potential by IWannaBeAnAC · · Score: 1

      The only problem is that the attackers will always be one step ahead of the defenders. The defenders will need time to analyze the bacteria, develop the program and distribute it. If the attacker is clever enough then the population of North America would already have hit zero by the time that is done.

    3. Re:Medical Potential by geschild · · Score: 1

      You do understand that once the 'wild' varieties come into contact with you 'little super soldiers' the evolutionairy race is on again, and now on a whole new level.

      What if these wild bacteria start to mutate and, through whatever mechanism, acquire the capabilities of the 'super soldiers'. What will prevent the wild bacteria to become 'super bacteria'? As long as we don't understand enough, I vote we keep our hands off...

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  10. A heart, a flower, and a bulls-eye? by condour75 · · Score: 1

    Next week, in an even bigger scientific breakthrough, they're going to advance to images of mickey mouse, a human breast, and a zero.

  11. Awesome by dirtsurfer · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's amazing how you can control an organism's behavoir by altering it's DNA.

    *yawn* Welp, time to go look at pictures of naked girls.

  12. Benchmarks... by LewsTherinKinslayer · · Score: 0

    What kind of FPS does it get in HL2?

  13. Bacteria + Windows = Nightmare by jordie · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can only imagine what wonderful ideas Micro$oft is coming up with right now... Imagine your 'computer' crashing and growing all over your house.

    1. Re:Bacteria + Windows = Nightmare by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

      "All your face are belong to us."

      Hmmm... has potential :)

    2. Re:Bacteria + Windows = Nightmare by Aggrav8d · · Score: 1

      I can see the slogan now.

      Windows 2056: Is it in you?

    3. Re:Bacteria + Windows = Nightmare by LordEd · · Score: 1

      Or if it infects the water supply and spreads....

    4. Re:Bacteria + Windows = Nightmare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HaHaHA!! You bashed Microsoft and got modded up Score:4, Funny for it! On Slashdot of all places! I never would have expected that!

    5. Re:Bacteria + Windows = Nightmare by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 2, Funny

      Windows 2095 - Who do you want to infect today?

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    6. Re:Bacteria + Windows = Nightmare by daninbusiness · · Score: 1

      To be fair, what would happen if one had to "recompile" the 'open-source' bacteria?

    7. Re:Bacteria + Windows = Nightmare by staev · · Score: 1

      It goes without saying that Microsoft's Strep 5000 OS will go flesh eating when hacked.

  14. Wired Article by Brendor · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wired did an article about a similar notion back in 1995 which was rather interesting at the time.

  15. What happen when they die... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    Bacteria computers... When they die, they really do shrivel up and die. No more blue screen of death... but someone will still have to clean up the mess. Go figure.

  16. here we come by phreakv6 · · Score: 1

    not long before someone ports my p2p app for this platform

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  17. lazy by aendeuryu · · Score: 1, Funny

    In post 9-11 soviet russia, only beowulf clusters of welcomed overlords are belong to old grit-eating Koreans!

    There! See? Nothing to it.

    Uh... oh yeah... and something something bacterial computers something

  18. Prey? by ErichTheWebGuy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Anyone else read "Prey" by Micheal Crichton? If so, does any of this sound framiliar? hmmmmmmmmmmm

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    1. Re:Prey? by Spy+Hunter · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Anyone else read "Prey" by Micheal Crichton?

      Yeah, and I feel stupider just for having done so. It reads like a bad novelization of a "major motion picture". As I read the book, I could just see Crichton sitting there thinking "OK, now I'll write in a couple cool CG special-effects shots for the movie".

      I hear the movie deal was done before the book even came out. Unfortunately the plot and characters were overlooked, there's not a shred of originality in the whole thing. And the science doesn't even bear talking about.

      I liked Jurassic Park, and Sphere was awesome, but his latest stuff is just trash. Crichton should just admit he knows very little about real science and go back to writing enjoyable science fiction that doesn't pretend to be a commentary on society's faith in technology and the scientific community.

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    2. Re:Prey? by codefrog · · Score: 1

      I _just_ finished reading "Slant" by Greg Bear from back in 1997... it's sort of Snowcrash-y but involves bacterial computation.

    3. Re:Prey? by marko123 · · Score: 1

      He runs his screenplays through a stripping program that results in a novel based on a major motion picture. Try reading Timeline, too.

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    4. Re:Prey? by hydopower · · Score: 1

      Nope but I read four other books with the same storyline published way before it.

    5. Re:Prey? by EvilNecro · · Score: 1

      Not that Timeline was a terribly good book, but it was orders of magnitude better than the movie, which was downright horrible.

    6. Re:Prey? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Really... I thought Jurassic Park was crap, too. In fact, that was the first and last Crichton novel I ever read.

      Michael Crichton is the Dan Brown of sci-fi.

    7. Re:Prey? by xenoterracide · · Score: 1

      I read it and unlike other people I thought it was a good book. actually that's what I thought of when I read this so I went hunting for a post on prey. especially the reference to ecoli.

    8. Re:Prey? by WillWare · · Score: 1
      Crichton should just admit he knows very little about real science

      Go back a few decades when he was at the top of his game. Then his science was fairly believable. I suspect that he's now coasting on his memories of an education long past.

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  19. I FOUND by NoGuffCheck · · Score: 5, Funny

    a betterpictureof bacteria assembling themselves into complex shapes based on instructions stuffed into their genes

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    1. Re:I FOUND by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wow... who modded you interesting and insightful should have their head checked ;)))

    2. Re:I FOUND by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ops... interesting and informative instead... doesn't really matter :)
      I should have logged out, because my +1 funny got cancelled :(
      funny pic anyway:) thanks

    3. Re:I FOUND by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God damn you. Now i have to wash my brain.

  20. Impractical as a detection technology by hellomynameisclinton · · Score: 1

    Detection capabilities are measured in millions of samples nowdays. Moreover, why go through the hassle of growing up an organism, when just a piece of the organism will do? It's much harder to keep a colony of bacteria alive than the small protein/antibody fragments currently used as protein assays.

    If we were to grow up enough of these cells to use in that many detection reactions, it would cost too much, take up too much space, and be too slow to be applied a high throughput system.

    As for being "programmed", is it really news that cells behave based on their DNA and protein content? Too much PR spin on something not practical.

    1. Re:Impractical as a detection technology by NextGaurd · · Score: 1

      They may be able to takew some action based on that detection - like a variation on oil eating bacteria - that detect and then destroy the biohazard.

  21. Flower!? by decipher_saint · · Score: 1

    Flower my ass, it's a honeycomb dammit!

    'Honeycomb's big, yeah yeah yeah! It's not small, no no no!'

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    1. Re:Flower!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Flower my ass, it's a honeycomb dammit!

      Honeycomb big, yeah yeah yeah! It's not small, no no no!

  22. This explains a lot by 3770 · · Score: 4, Funny

    This explains why I could calculate PI to 1 000 000 decimals in 1.8 seconds the last time I was sick.

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    1. Re:This explains a lot by Gopal.V · · Score: 1
      >why I could calculate PI to 1 000 000 decimals in 1.8 seconds the last time I was sick.

      Overclocking ?. Mmm.. that explains that thermal signature.

    2. Re:This explains a lot by FidelCatsro · · Score: 1

      You think thats bad , last time i got food poisoning i expelled a unified field theory

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  23. Aha! Secrets of IBM's Cell processor, revealed! by xmark · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oops, wrong thread...thought I had something there for moment.

  24. wow, combating terrorism, great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Geez, when was the last time researchers achieved something that *didn't* have applications in combating terrorism? Combating terrorism just isn't newsworthy anymore, everybody's doing it. Slashdot should post an article next time there's research that has absolutely no connection whatsoever with combating terrorism. Might be a while before that funding dries up though...

    1. Re:wow, combating terrorism, great by spacecowboy420 · · Score: 1

      Sure gets you grant money though...

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  25. yes but... by Kensho · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can they run Tiger? //you thought i was going to say Linux didn't you.

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  26. Try this one by britneys+9th+husband · · Score: 1

    If we can make computers out of bacteria, we can probably make them out of viruses too.

    And that virus computer at some point could be made to run Windows...

    And if they build this computer in Moscow we'll be able to say...

    IN SOVIET RUSSIA, Windows runs on viruses!

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    1. Re:Try this one by mOdQuArK! · · Score: 1

      Bacteria have moving parts. As far as I know, viruses don't (until they infect their host cell).

      On the other hand, viruses would be the natural vector for reprogramming your bacteria on the fly...

  27. Soo....?? by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 1

    Is it safe to run Norton A/V on this?

    Inquiring minds want to know.

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    1. Re:Soo....?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Is it safe to run Norton A/V on this?

      Definitely. Since it is a Bacteria and not a Virus, it can be killed only by antibacterial software. Norton Antibiotics should work fine for a while.

  28. Careful by Bones3D_mac · · Score: 2, Funny

    If they start generating an AT field, kiss your ass goodbye.

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    1. Re:Careful by GQuon · · Score: 1

      Well, yeah, with the armed robots allready in place, all we need now is some whiny teenager to top it off.

      Perhaps the UCLA will succeed in seperating religion and state? Unfortunately, that won't save us. They'll just succeed in getting the "angels/apostles" renamed into "the differently DNA sequenced"...

      SPOILERS ahoy

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  29. Can Windows for Bacteria be far behind? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Complete with the Blue Slime of Death.

  30. Compile Times by bloodyghol · · Score: 1

    I bet it takes forever to compile. Probably is really susceptable to gene buffer overflows too. Why can't anybody dream up a language that's both obscure and secure? Next project: Port Linux to bacteria!

  31. I see it now... by Bananatree3 · · Score: 2, Funny
    [50 years in the future]

    [me] My %$#&#@@!!! E.Coli Computer keeps running slowly, too dangerous to my health, and is a waste of my time compared to it's electronic counterpart. Maybe if I sprinke a little um, penicillin on it, it might make it run faster [supressed snicker].

  32. e coli inside by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 2, Funny

    forget quantum computing I want to be the first on the block to have a fecal matter computer.

    1. Re:e coli inside by SidV · · Score: 4, Funny

      What to go with your piece of sh*t car. ;)

    2. Re:e coli inside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So does this mean the next time I spill beer all over my computer it will be a GOOD thing? Awesome, I'll buy three!

    3. Re:e coli inside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What to go with your piece of sh*t car.

      I think that maybe your keyboard is broken. The word is shit.

    4. Re:e coli inside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As Mr. Sandler put it:

      Well the engine likes to flood
      The car always fuckin' stalls
      And the seat cushion's got a big rip
      So a spring always pokes the balls
      Plus the door locks are busted
      I gotta use a fucking coat hanger
      And if a girlie sees my car
      There's no chance I'll ever bang her

    5. Re:e coli inside by lysergic.acid · · Score: 0

      and i'm sure your FECAL computers will be equipped with the latest in DRM technology--the bacteria will kill you if it detects any unlicences movies or mp3s.

    6. Re:e coli inside by Archimboldo · · Score: 1

      Just remember to call flush() after your output.

  33. Super virii by h8macs · · Score: 1

    Well one can only hope that when the bacteria are released into the wild and are then mutated into some super virus (which was totally unexpected), we may have the saving grace of the virii BSOD.

    Seriously though... interesting stuff... let's hope the evil people (choose your people) don't do something *evil* (or stupid) with it... ;-)

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    1. Re:Super virii by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      virus is not alive.

      you fail biology.

      go home.

  34. Is it just me? by zappepcs · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is it just me that wonders why science can run along happily trying to create in reality what science fiction has been creating decades before it, yet seemingly blatantly ignoring all the lessons that were there to be learned in the science fiction stories?

    Seems like there is some conspiracy, but something tells me that its just stupid human tricks to do things to see if they can, then stand back and wonder why it all went wrong?

    Yes, it would be good to have programmed virii that might devour an oil spill then die harmlessly, or bacteria that can be injected into a chemical spill to clean it up, or down an oil well to preprocess the crude to make it easily recoverd from the ground....

    Its just that no one seems to be working on figuring out the dangers at the same time as people are working on the possibilities...

    1. Re:Is it just me? by bloodyghol · · Score: 2, Funny

      You would really think some areas of science would just be abandoned after all those science gone wrong books/movies/games. I mean seriously, if I find out that the US government is still trying to open a gate to hell, I'm going to be pissed. There are all of three games and an upcoming movie (although that may not count) that seam to be sending the don't open a gate to hell because it's really, really bad for you message.

      Of course, all of these types of advancements can be the gate to hell, but often offer nice and helpful features that subdue the nastier ones. Like the computer. The computer is great, we can do so much good stuff on it. A computer could be chugging through bioinfomatics programs to find a cure for cancer, or it could be sitting their determining the best way to cause human pain and suffering (because I know thats what everybody here does with their computers).

      The point is, all technology has a good and bad aspect and we really have to pay attention to ethics and keep people from unleashing a supervirus or destroying earth (for a hyperspace bypass).

    2. Re:Is it just me? by hankaholic · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Is it just me that wonders why science can run along happily trying to create in reality what science fiction has been creating decades before it, yet seemingly blatantly ignoring all the lessons that were there to be learned in the science fiction stories?

      This would be more valid if the majority of the sci-fi out there weren't utter crap. You didn't provide more specific examples of non-crap, and spoke quite vaguely of "figuring out the dangers".

      Assume teleportation were possible. Would you suggest we ignore it because of the lessons "The Fly" had to teach us? How about AI research? Should we ban that because of the lessons of "The Matrix"? What about genetic engineering? Should we avoid that as well, since obviously Jeff Goldblum insisting that "life will find a way" provides all requires scientific justification as to whether it is truly possible for such biological situations to rear their recombinant heads?

      I'm convinced that the appeal of sci-fi is the idea of modeling human behavior in hypothetical situations which are non-threatening viewers who are not social in the traditional sense. As an exercise, watch a ST:TNG episode and wait for the moment when they pull some solution out of their ass and indicate that it's due to some character's abilities (such as those listed above) that the answer was found. Note how little actual science was involved. Turn on the Sci-Fi channel. Think further about how little scientific fact and possibility comprise the typical sci-fi premise.

      There's a difference between something a writer pulls out of their ass and scientific possibility or likeliness. It's just a pity that it's a boring sci-fi work which covers the fact that in reality it's a damned hard task to create an organism which can survive outside of the laboratory in ideal conditions, let alone turn the planet into some form of gelatenous goo. The idea of a laboratory-created organism which isn't robust enough to survive simply doesn't make for a very compelling plot unless you're getting into the emotional strain of working hard to produce things which keeps dying despite your best efforts, and that hardly sounds like a sci-fi work to me.

      The simple fact is that the further scientists deviate from organisms which exist presently, the more rapidly the long-term viability approaches zero. Genetically engineered corn is still pretty damned close to corn -- no tentacles, no sentience that we've noticed thus far, just corn. There's a reason why most mutations die off -- it's a large combination of factors which are required to allow a species to persist. We are far from understanding these factors in terms of "this protein structure is stable and will generate an organism capable of everything required to survive outside of the laboratory", let alone being able to build it from the ground up.

      However, I might be wrong. It might be that science fiction has produced a large body of scientific truths which are best heeded, aside from "don't make Brundleflies or use DNA from animals which are known to change genders to recreate animals which will want to eat us". If that is the case, it would be greatly beneficial if you'd point the uninformed Slashdot masses of which I take part towards a compendium of conclusions. If these truths are not yet compiled in a single place, I encourage you to consider starting a Wiki and saving the planet.

      However, it just may be possible that these people aren't total idiots and realize that making, for example, a race of highly reproductive, highly violent, superintelligent monkeys with an insatiable thirst for human blood would probably not further their long-term career goals long before the realization sinks in that the eventual results would converge in some way upon the plotline of "Planet of the Apes".
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  35. Move over Neurons by DumbSwede · · Score: 1
    I doubt that binary computing will ever be done efficiently with biological components, but I have to wonder if it might be easier to use self assembling bacteria structures to build powerful neural like nets for things like pattern recognition, or possibly self assembling neural interfaces that integrate more easily with the cortex than crude electrodes.

    Coming soon, debugging bugs.

  36. Atlast I am going to be rich. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have just the supercomputer in my backyard. 2 months worth of laundry with lots of 'programs' on them.

  37. First program: by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Perhaps the first program will be a cellular Autonoma simmulation. They could program it to play the game of Life.

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    1. Re:First program: by koko775 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Thank you. My mind will now proceed to explode. This is at least as perverse as nested wine-cygwin installs, only worse.

    2. Re:First program: by chillmost · · Score: 1

      Then after that I can program my bathroom to clean itself.

    3. Re:First program: by tricorn · · Score: 1

      Since it's been shown that Life can implement a Universal Turing Machine, that would be pretty cool. Pretty slow, too!

    4. Re:First program: by orn · · Score: 1

      More likely it'll be "Hello, World."

      Won't you be freaked out when your bacteria starts talking to you. :-)

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    5. Re:First program: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Soviet Russia, bacteria program YOU

    6. Re:First program: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, which pattern is that? And I just make silly little crawlers...

    7. Re:First program: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Geez, use Google. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway's_Game_of_Life

    8. Re:First program: by meestaplu · · Score: 1

      It's modded +5 funny, but this is my professor we're talking about. They already did this. See http://www.ee.princeton.edu/CAP/CAP2005/speaker_pr ofiles.html

  38. Call you stupid--mod down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you want to produce bioterrorism chemicals just produce them. Don't make a friggin' computer.

  39. Covered in Scientific American May 2004 by B.D.Mills · · Score: 1

    There was an article on similar technology in the May 2004 edition of Scientific American. More info here: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=0009FCA 4-1A8F-1085-94F483414B7F0000&sc=I100322/.

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  40. Well by TheEditorJonKatz · · Score: 1

    I'm afraid these nobel scientists didn't stop to look at the bigger picture of what they're doing.

    In a world after columbine, kids will soon be getting their hands on programmable bacteria kits and command them to give that class bully a case diahrrea.

    1. Re:Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Utterly unimaginative. Personally, I would have programmed them to suddenly have confusing and "unnatural" feelings towards their fellow bullies. What the hell, throw in a case of herpes to boot. That would leave the fuckers preoccupied for a while.

  41. They'd better be careful... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The last thing you want is something to go wrong playing with this stuff. What if the bacteria mutates and no longer does its programmed purpose? What if it does something much worse?

  42. They all laughed at the mad scientists' club! by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    Screw that shit, you pedestrian fools with your lack of vision. This is a big step in the science of eruntics! Now I just need to train those yeasty little bitches to tell me next Wedensday's lotto numbers!

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  43. Oh the humanity... by ta+bu+shi+da+yu · · Score: 1

    Bacteria based computers? My computer was wiped out by a virus, you insensitive clod!

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  44. GNU licence? by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    Now here's a real opportunity for a GNU license. Since Cell's carry their own genomes (and plasmids) one is in effect distributing the source code when you distribute the bugs. Plus there's the real opportunity for Viral Marketing (yes I know mr Bio nazi, bacteria are not viruses).

    Actually what I find interesting here is not the applications but the opportunity to study something that is intermediate to a single cellular organism community and a multi-cellualr organism: Geometrically coupled, self organizing communities that communicate. Presumably the plasmids that cause this to happen will quickly find their way out of the lab and into the wild. At some point some natural community will find some selective advantage in being a tightly coupled community.

    Since the the communication protocols they are developing are inteded to allow computation, it is plausible that the advantage some cwild community will derive from this will be based on non-trivial computation. Thus Thinking structures in bacteria may evolve from this.

    You wont just think you have a cold. Rather your cold may have a think. (yes mr bio nazi I know colds are viruses)

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    1. Re:GNU licence? by salvorHardin · · Score: 2, Funny

      Perhaps Mr Adams wasn't so wrong in stating that Earth and everything on it was actually one big computer, running a very important program.

    2. Re:GNU licence? by Smidge204 · · Score: 1

      ...so if you were infected with a bug that was protected under the GPL, would anything you create (perhaps considered a derivative work of YOU) have to be released under the GPL also?

      Oh no... viral GPL... (ugh)
      =Smidge=

  45. Thy work bears... fruit. by monocyte · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    One more thing to thank Alan Turing for.

    Please don't be offended at the subject, it is intended in the best spirit of Wicked Witch of the West broom-riding cackling.

  46. MOD +5 RAVING STREET PREACHER, NOT INSIGHTFUL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mod tards: This is drooling paranoid drivel. It is not even logical or relevant if you read the article.

  47. I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one welcome our genetically engineered bacteria overlords.

  48. In Korea... by Urusai · · Score: 0

    ...only old people fail to complete their inane meme-based witticisms.

  49. air conditioner invented by oogoody · · Score: 1, Funny

    It may be used to cool air marshals as they look for terrorist devices. Please fund me.

    1. Re:air conditioner invented by DeathPenguin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Seriously... I hate to get off topic, but it seems like more and more new technologies are jumping on the 'terrorist detection' bandwagon when they lack more practical applications. I especially love the part where they specify "bioterrorism chemicals" or whatever, as if a primitive computer made of organic cells can detect them any better than a computer with a crapload of transistors can simply because of their biological nature.

      Hey, I've invented a great new device that can also be used as an anti-bioterror device! I call it a "dog," and with its evolved processor (A "brain" as some like to call it) it can monitor and detect chemical and biological agents with a special probe called a "nose." Give me money!

    2. Re:air conditioner invented by joeldg · · Score: 1

      if they want funding that is where you need to go in the current climate, unless it has something to do with fighting the war on terror the government is not going to give you a dime..
      Especially since scientists have been critical of the Bushco(tm) handling of environmental issues and clear skies, and other such smoke screens. All those guys are flipping burgers now..
      If they would have said; "If we release less toluene on the public because we need them to help stop terrorists" then they might have kept their jobs.

  50. nice comparison by Dr.Opveter · · Score: 4, Funny
    Bacteria have been programmed to behave like computers, assembling themselves into complex shapes based on instructions stuffed into their genes.

    The last time i saw a computer assembling itself into a complex shape it didn't need instructions to accomplish that. Gravity is pretty much all it took.

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  51. Question by mcc · · Score: 1

    Once we've reached this point, seriously, how close to nanotechnology are we? What are the limits of this technology? It seems to me like bacteria are basically rather sophisticated nanomachines. If this article isn't hyperbole and we can basically program bacteria... well, at first glance it seems like we could just skip the entire hard part of nanomachinery construction and use the nanomachines nature's built for us.

    Failing that, I like the idea of a computer-slaved zombified bacteria invasion.

    <Steve McQueen> THE ZOMBIES! THEY ARE COMING! THERE ARE MILLIONS OF THEM! THEY'RE RIGHT BEHIND ME!
    <Bystander> Um, I don't see anything.
    <Steve McQueen> Well they're really small.

  52. I know of nothing worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    than being controlled by a machine.

    Bacteria of the world, unite!

  53. Bioterrorism chemicals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When is a bioterrorism chemical not a bioterrorism chemical?

    When the boogey man does not have it.

  54. Unfortunately by mcc · · Score: 1, Funny

    Unfortunately the scientists in this case were all reading Asimov and Heinlein, and so believed that all they had to do was be very smart and discover things and much younger beautiful women would unexpectedly materialize and fall in love with them for no apparent reason.

    This rather dampened the stories' also-present warnings in their mind.

    *shakes fist* ASIMOV, YOUR INABILITY TO WRITE BELIEVABLE THREE-DIMENSIONAL FEMALE CHARACTERS HAS DAMNED THE VERY EXISTENCE OF HUMANITY!

    1. Re:Unfortunately by zappepcs · · Score: 1

      Now, THAT is funny.... and should be in a science fiction novel starring Jon Stewart!

  55. CLICK by planetoid · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Click here for hot amoeba porn! Watch these protoplasmic lovelies get violated by entire gangs of horny human sperm!

    HOT FLAGELLUM FETISH PICS XXX CLICK VI@GR4 PHRAMACY SELLS MUCH GOOD PENICILLIN SITES HOME EQUITY!! Watch SLUTTY EXTREMOPHILIC BACTERIUM suck HOT OCEANIC LAVA DUCTS!!

    Interclassificationary xxx pics too -- BACILLI and COCCI doing um... not doing anything really because they're asexual, but uh still HOT MICROSCOPIC SEX PICS XXX!

    BARELY LEGAL GRAM STAINING!!

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  56. Messenger Bug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine programming the bugs to spell out your message (a la Contact), and sending them out into the Galaxy by the billions. If they ever found a habitat, they'd reproduce and cover any available surface with your data.

  57. Technology to destroy by [cx] · · Score: 0

    I hope they make bacteria to selectively kill anyone. This world is overfilled with resource wasting humans that would better be fertilizer and more useful in the long run.

    1. Re:Technology to destroy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I can think of one right now.

  58. Aha! by gt_swagger · · Score: 1

    So THAT'S what it takes to control viruses on Windows... make it a virus to begin with!

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  59. Re:I see it now... (OT) by zappepcs · · Score: 1

    Perhaps, to get your e coli computer to run faster, try exlax rather than penicillin?

  60. No No No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We need to be thanking Stephen Wolfram, the inventor of CELLULAR automata

    1. Re:No No No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's Wolram's biblio on previous papers on cellular automata. Ed Fredkin was writing on the topic in 1965, 20 years before Wolfram. I think the ideas go further back than that.

  61. Relevant research publications by FleaPlus · · Score: 4, Informative

    ::digs around for relevant info::

    First off, here's the web page for Ron Weiss, the scientist mentioned in the article.

    Here's (what I think is) the relevant publication on the topic:

    A synthetic multicellular system for programmed pattern formation

    Subhayu Basu, Yoram Gerchman, Cynthia H. Collins, Frances H. Arnold and Ron Weiss

    Nature 434, 1130-1134 (28 April 2005)

    Pattern formation is a hallmark of coordinated cell behaviour in both single and multicellular organisms1, 2, 3. It typically involves cellcell communication and intracellular signal processing. Here we show a synthetic multicellular system in which genetically engineered 'receiver' cells are programmed to form ring-like patterns of differentiation based on chemical gradients of an acyl-homoserine lactone (AHL) signal that is synthesized by 'sender' cells. In receiver cells, 'band-detect' gene networks respond to user-defined ranges of AHL concentrations. By fusing different fluorescent proteins as outputs of network variants, an initially undifferentiated 'lawn' of receivers is engineered to form a bullseye pattern around a sender colony. Other patterns, such as ellipses and clovers, are achieved by placing senders in different configurations. Experimental and theoretical analyses reveal which kinetic parameters most significantly affect ring development over time. Construction and study of such synthetic multicellular systems can improve our quantitative understanding of naturally occurring developmental processes and may foster applications in tissue engineering, biomaterial fabrication and biosensing.


    This conference abstract is also pretty darned cool:

    Dynamic Control in a Coordinated Multi-Cellular Maze Solving System

    Hsu, Allen (Princeton Univ.), Vijayan, Vikram (Princeton Univ.), Fomundam, Lawrence (Univ. of Maryland, Baltimore County), Gerchman, Yoram (Princeton Univ.), Basu, Subhayu (Princeton Univ.), Karig, David (Princeton Univ.), Hooshangi, Sara (Princeton Univ.), Weiss, Ron (Princeton Univ.)

    2005 American Control Conference

    Control system theory provides convenient tools and concepts for describing and analyzing complex cell functions. In this paper we demonstrate the use of control theory to forward-engineer a complex synthetic gene network constructed from several modular components. Specifically, we present the design and simulation of a synthetic multi-cellular maze-solving system. Here, bacterial cells are programmed to use artificial cell-to-cell communication and regulatory feedback in order to illuminate the correct path in a user-defined maze of cells arranged on a surface. Simulations were used to analyze the system's spatiotemporal dynamics and sensitivity to various kinetic parameters. Experiments with Escherichia coli were carried out to characterize the diffusion properties of artificial cell-to-cell communication based on bacterial quorum sensing systems. The rational design process and simulation tools employed in this study provide an example for future engineering of complex synthetic gene networks comprising multiple control system motifs.

  62. ARRGGHH! My eyes! by cruel_elevator · · Score: 0, Troll

    WARNING: Link contains the new goatse. Mod parent down.

  63. The MIT Standard Registry of Biological Parts by supersat · · Score: 3, Informative

    Last week, Dr. Drew Endy from MIT gave a talk to the University of Washington's CSE department on Building Biological Systems (PowerPoint slides are here).

    At first glance, building biological systems seems like a pretty daunting task. You have all of these As, Ts, Gs, and Cs, and your task is to figure out how to order them to make your system work as specified. And unlike computers that were engineered by humans, the biological mechanisms that work on DNA aren't completely understood.

    However, a promising method of engineering biological systems is to abstract them into systems, devices, and parts. One of the interesting things they're doing is building a repository of biological parts, available at http://parts.mit.edu/. These parts use a standardize way of communicating with each other, allowing you to combine them easily.

    Using these parts, college students are able to engineer biological systems in a single quarter. In fact, there's been a few intercollegiate biological engineering competitions, linked to from the MIT Parts site.

  64. +1 Amerikkka the victim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Yes, you guys have it so rough.

    Idiots. If only the Vietnamese could shed a tear for your pain. You know, if fucking Agent Orange hadn't fucking burned their fucking tear ducts.

    1. Re:+1 Amerikkka the victim by Trent05 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Are you kidding, look at all the websites around the net. I live in a fascist dictatorship. The leader of my country is right up there with Hitler, the third biggest mass murder in history (Stalin & Mao Tse Tung taking the top two spots). To top that, I live in fear of the USA Patriot Act. That means I can be arrested by just PLANNING on blowing up buildings/landmarks/petting zoos. I tell you, the rest of the world has it pretty sweet compared to the toil of your average American's day-to-day life.

      Seriously though, I sure as hell won't defend everything the US has done, but the mindless US-bashing is ridiculous.

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    2. Re:+1 Amerikkka the victim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      dood, if you blow up a petting zoo, I want pictures

    3. Re:+1 Amerikkka the victim by KiroDude · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And now, if you live in florida, you can get shot just by looking menacing ...

    4. Re:+1 Amerikkka the victim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please provide link and subtext on how said event relates to the USA Patriot Act.

    5. Re:+1 Amerikkka the victim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Mindless? Are you not seeing a trend here?

      a) new technology is invented
      b) the usa tries tomake weapons out of it

      This is a simple process that has been in place for dozens of years. The fact of the matter is I'm sure the taliban would love to program biological weapons, but it will cost way more money than they have and require technology that they do not have ready access to. But we have both teh technology and the willingness to go into debt (we don't have the money of course, but we'll spend it like we do . . . the US is the ultimate trust fund baby).

      Regardless, predicting that the US will use a new technology as a weapon isn't mindless US-Bashing, it's called "being mainimally observant".

    6. Re:+1 Amerikkka the victim by jimi+the+hippie · · Score: 1

      "The leader of my country is right up there with Hitler, the third biggest mass murder in history (Stalin & Mao Tse Tung taking the top two spots)."

      Where did you say you live? It's not the USA, cause Hitler killed a lot more people than any leader of the USA (possibly excluding Lincoln) ever has.

    7. Re:+1 Amerikkka the victim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What makes you presume it's mindless.

  65. It's all coming together... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...this whole time the non-showering geeks were really trying to take over the world.

    And judging by the smell, we're doomed...DOOMED!!

    1. Re: It's all coming together... by planetoid · · Score: 0

      Don't worry -- considering this is an emerging, newly-maturing, innovative field of science, there is no doubt going to be an army of political bureaucrats and fear-vote panderers who will use heavy-handed government intervention to regulate it into something completely useless and needlessly expensive before it can hit the market.

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  66. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am getting the feeling that this sentiment is mostly directed from outside of the United States. Those within the United States that feel this way are undoubtedly a very small percentage, even of the "Bush-haters" and "crazy liberals". Thank you for insulting a large number of people who don't feel that way. There are some seriously FUCKED IN THE HEAD "conservatives" and "republicans" too. So in the spirit of your "lump about 100 million americans together and label them fucking hippie terroist satan-worshipping morons" FUCK THE HELL OFF, BRAINWASHED NAZI CUNT. :)

  67. Another Wired Article: Life, Reinvented by chuseq · · Score: 1

    More recent, January 2005, about what they are doing at MIT on synthetic biology.

    Here.

    Interesting stuff

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  68. Then let's, at least,... by game+kid · · Score: 1

    ...thank the girls' DNA for their incredible boot--uh, beauty. *gets Haymakered in face by female Slashdotters*

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    1. Re:Then let's, at least,... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      *gets Haymakered in face by female Slashdotters*

      You wish.

  69. But what happens.. by Klowner · · Score: 1

    What happens when the E. Coli bacteria learn how to assemble themselves into a delicious looking Oreo (tm) cookie and mass crapping ensues? Sounds more like bio-terrorism rather than a detector of it.

  70. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by IWannaBeAnAC · · Score: 1
    Man I am sorry to say but the contents of your post says nothing but 1894 doublethink has finally arrived.

    God save us.

  71. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I assume you mean 1984.

    Look, all I hear about are liberals bashing our troops, claiming that 9/11 was our fault, and saying that we breed terrorism. I mean, wtf? We're FIGHTING terrorism. It's leftist propaganda that's ruining this country right now I tell you.

  72. They want a slice of the a funding cake by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The US govt will piss any amount of money at "Homeland Security". To get a slice of the action you just need to draw some tentative link between your new technology and the "War on terrorism".

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  73. Call me OPTIMISTIC! by Gentlewhisper · · Score: 1

    Well, remember what made VHS take off for the home consumers?

    Now imagine this same technology applied here.. who needs those rubber blow up dolls, soon we can just buy these huge cement-mix-sized sacks of chemicals, mix them together in a bathtub, and watch them assemble themselves into a girl shaped object!

    1. Re:Call me OPTIMISTIC! by Orgazmus · · Score: 1

      An you, like most slashdotters, would settle for a girl shaped object?

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  74. Call me sarcastic... it has been done before by DancesWithBlowTorch · · Score: 1

    but I think "bioterrorism detection" is simply a buzzword that helps attract a lot of money. Especially the use of the word "future" implies that they have not really an idea what to use their invention for. It's simply a neat trick. It has been done before, by the way, on a much smaller scale: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v394/n6693/ab s/394539a0_fs.html

  75. Note to M2 checking out context: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Redundant? That would assume his sentiment is obvious. It's disgusting. It's so clearly a troll.

  76. Practical Applications by Capt.+Dick+Jackman · · Score: 1
    Forget bioterrorism applications. Who cares? I could market the shit out of this and make a market bubble that the dot bombs could only dream of.

    First, imagine all of the cosmetic applications. e.Perfume, where bacteria customize your scent to the mood, time, place, etc. e.Make up, where similar changes happen with ladies makeup. e.Coli, for your customized smell in lavatory situations or those gassy days that you just need to let it out in a public place. e.Antiacne, where bacteria take the role of making you a teenager with nice skin.

    Now, that you're the nicest smelling, great skinned, attractor of the opposite sex, you can use your e.birthcontrol to increase sponteneity and maybe even prevent unwanted STD transmission. Maybe even e.extrasensation. Well enough of that.

    Now, we adapt this to yeast and give the brewmasters the ultimate in control of their fermentations. Want a perfect high gravity, never stuck fermentation, or other difficult beer done right every time? Use e.Brew.

    I better stop. I could go on all morning.

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    1. Re:Practical Applications by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We'd just e.Mod you down.

  77. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Atrax · · Score: 1

    1894: Aldous Huxley Born, Tower Bridge opens to vehicle traffic, Women In South Australia gain right to vote, among other things.

    Nothing about this 'double think' of which you speak though

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  78. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by tokabola · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The United States of America are very involved in terrorism. Osama Bin Laden was trained in terrorism by the CIA. That's not "tin foil hat" talk, that's a known, admitted-by-the-CIA fact. The U.S. government has also been the force that got Pappa Doc, Manuel Noriega, and the Shah of Iran into power, just to name a few. These are verified, undisputed (by the government - hotly disputed by the "US can do no wrong" crowd) facts, not liberal propaganda. Even in Afghanistan, the Taliban was able to gain control because the people couldn't tolerate the warlords empowered by the CIA to fight the Russians. The same warlords placed back in power during the "liberation" of Afghanistan.

    As for proof, there are plenty of records of this, available from the government itself through the Freedom of Information Act. The government freely admits to doing these things, and use the mistakes they made in the past to justify making the same mistakes again today. "We shouldn't have done that, but now they hate us so we have to kick their butts again" is standard operating procedure. That's not liberal hogwash - that's known fact - undisputed by anyone except a few obsessive nationalists like yourself.

    The US government has sponsored and trained terrorists for over 40 years, all in the name of "peace" and "democracy". I'm not saying this because I hate America, but because I am an American patriot who believes in what the Constitution. The American government has enabled, encouraged, and full on participated in atrocities when ever the powers-that-be have decided it was expedient.

    I don't condone terrorism, no matter who's committing it. But do you really think people would be willing to die just to hurt the US without any reason? Terrorism is the price America pays for it's hubris. While our pride and unrelenting arrogance don't justify terrorism, they are the root cause of it.

    People like you, who throw out logic and compassion in exchange for jingoistic egotism are what is ruining the country I love. You are the people who talk about bringing Democracy to the world when we don't even truly have it in the US. The government brags about bringing "fair and impartial" elections to Iraq, because they can't brag about having them here in the US.

    A true American Patriot follows his own morals, not his president. If your morals align with our current governments, then you are a traitor to the very ideals that are supposed to set us above all the commies and terrorists.

    Tommy

    BTW, I could have just modded you down for trolling, but I don't want people in other counties to think that most of America are as screwed up as you. It seemed more important to let people know that most Americans think you are an asshat. Unfortunately, after two illegal and constitutionally invalid elections most Americans have realized that "the people" no longer run America.
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  79. Why the constant terrorism references?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Though applications may not come for awhile, the article says that in the future this technology may be used in devices to detect bioterrorism chemicals." Come on, do we really need to have the terrorism angle pointed out for every new technology that comes along??? It's BS to get science funding cause apparently the only R&D budget the U.S. still subsidizes is military and anti-terrorism. I swear, it's only a matter of time before people start trying to claim research into the drag coefficient of sheep over various surfaces (See: http://www.improbable.com/ig/ig-pastwinners.html#i g2003Ignobel Awards ) qualifies as an anti-terrorism expenditure.

  80. Spam determined to behave as bacteria by gbulmash · · Score: 1
    In a recent scientific study of spam, it was found to mindlessly reproduce, leave a scummy surface on anything they touched, and mutate rapidly in response to efforts to stop its spread.

    - G

  81. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by IWannaBeAnAC · · Score: 0
    Yes, you should go to the pub. Nothing beats alcohol for a quick escape from reality!

    PS: 1894 was a typo. I am sure you understood that I intended to type 1894, but just in case I spell it out. (It was a book by George Orwell, just in case you never heard of him. It is public domain in Australia, you should download it from project guttenberg before it becomes illegal. The FTA came close to making it so.)

  82. WARNING by jlebrech · · Score: 2, Funny

    WARNING eating you computer may cause severe health problems.

  83. Moore's law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    now that's what keep the Moore's law in shape

  84. boy, what bullshit by cahiha · · Score: 1

    If he had managed to get bacteria to arrange themselves in a bulls-eye or heart pattern, that would be sort of neat. Not really science, and not really useful, but sort of neat.

    However, what he has actually done is arrange bacteria in a bulls-eye or heart pattern around some sort of preexisting central source(s). The difference may seem slight to a computer scientist, but it is completely different from a biological point of view. Arrangement around a source is a much easier problem.

  85. Fucking travesty... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Next time, come over to my place. I'll fill your stomach.

  86. Good gawd. Programming bacteria by pg110404 · · Score: 1

    I hope they don't take commenting their code too seriously.

    Woops, this gene sequence explains what that other gene sequence does but somehow the checksum triggered it to override the other one so now it runs amok eating everything in its path.

    If we ever kill ourselves off as the dominant species and those bacteria evolve into a new life form that then looks at its gene sequence, I wonder what they'd think?

    'This following section here keys in on seron gas and will grow an extra appendage - a mouth in this case (appendage = growExtraMouth()), ingest it (suckItUp(appendage)), break it down (breakToxinDown(appendage)) and recycle the extra mouth when done (recycleMouth(appendage)). Hopefully the gas doesn't trigger a bus error'....

  87. Prior art by acaspis · · Score: 1
    The plasmid is inserted into a cell, and "the cell then executes the set of instructions."

    Wow, sounds like the end of life as we know it.

    it might be used in three to five years to make devices that could detect bioterrorism chemicals.

    Yeah, did I tell you about my DNA-based Cellular Autonomous Terminator ? It's very good at searching&destroying living organisms, and it already has a stealth mode, night vision and laser-based target designation. Gimme funding and I'll see what I can do about homeland security.

    another team led by Weiss showed they could insert DNA into cells to make them behave like digital circuits.

    OK, now that sounds interesting. But the March 8 paper is about robustness of feedback loops in biological systems. Directed evolution of a genetic circuit does have logic gates though.

    But we don't need life to produce nice regular chemical patterns. See e.g. reaction-diffusion systems. The whole point of synthetic biology would be self-assembly self-replication. So wake me up with sexy headlines when we know how to compile some Turing-complete language to DNA.

    Until then, editors should have a rule about anti-terror plugs in articles, e.g. "three times and you're out".

  88. Where can I get a good bio-computer for under $500 by skingers6894 · · Score: 1

    I think these will be widely available before Longhorn...

  89. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Segfault666 · · Score: 0

    Wow. I think that was the most objective, rational, and valid post I have read on /. in quite a while. Very many good points were made without the flailing of vulgarities, emotions or other such useless drivel!

  90. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'm sorry, man, but neither I nor the MAJORITY of Americans in this country are buying it. Take a look at our president -- he's your president too, you know. He's being a leader and it's up to you to be part of the solution, not part of the whining, complaining problem. MOST AMERICANS think like I do, and put the president back in power because he's doing a good job, and we'll put the next Republican in power because he'll do a good job too.

    btw, your post had no links, so you'll pardon me if I call bullshit on your claims.

  91. what??? by popra · · Score: 1

    this now when I almost finished "Inside i386"...

  92. Your name on a bacteria by Fry-kun · · Score: 1

    Step right up, folks!
    Who needs a grain of rice when you can get your name written on a smallest living object - a single cell!

    --
    Did you know that "FTW" ("for the win") is a direct translation of "Sieg Heil"?
  93. Re:Imagine... another attempt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    in a post 9/11 world, all bacteria are a little nervous.

  94. Re:Where can I get a good bio-computer for under $ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You might find one here

  95. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Atrax · · Score: 1

    mod -1 missed the joke.

    or maybe I had a sense of humour failure... that's as likely.

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  96. Names? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What do we call these things? Lets coin some phrases... Bachines / Bachinery?
    Bactronics. Bacnology. Bacware. Bacbots.

    Use these in your SF work, and get me a free account.

    More then that, when are Disney going to sue researchers for actually making a tiny self-assembling Mickey? When will advertisers make bacteria embedded in foods, that when you throw up, form into an ad?

  97. e. coli, it figures by Quirk · · Score: 1
    This seems to recall the principle of the lampost. You know, guy looses his keys on a walk home; looks for them under the lampost, not because he thinks that's where he lost them, but because it's brighter there. E. Coli is one of the most intensely studied organisms and, a lampost, of sorts.

    "The Nobel Prizes earned by Francois Jacob and Jacques Monod are but two of the dozen that by my account are affiliated with E. coli. The overall scientific literature alluding to E. coli now encompasses over 100,000 publications; Google reports almost 3 million hits with 'coli'on the World Wide Web."

    J. Monod's book Chance and Necessity is an eye opening read, perhaps dated now, but stimulating in terms of the philosophy of science coming out or genetic research.

    Another deeply studied life form Drosophila melanogaster, like e.coli, carries with it such a huge body of work that it, likewise, probably tends to attract and disseminate novel research.

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  98. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by simonecaldana · · Score: 1

    > we'll put the next Republican in power because he'll do a good job too

    Excuse me Sir, did you vote Nixon in 1972?

  99. Why reinvent the wheel? by babyblink · · Score: 1

    FSF already made a program to act like virus for decades. (j/k everybody knows that GPL is not about viral but derivative and communism)

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  100. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    your herd mentality is precisely why a bio/nuclear attack in the USA is inevitable.

    just a matter of time. you'll whine then too.

  101. Licensing by pklong · · Score: 1

    Microsoft are said to be very interested in this new technology. They have released a provisional price list of 100 dollars per processor OEM. 269 dollars per processor Retail.

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    Signatures are broken

  102. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    btw, your post had no links, so you'll pardon me if I call bullshit on your claims.

    Just because you bury your head in the sand like an ostrich doesn't make it any less true. Quit trying to waste even more of other peoples time trying to open your eyes to things that, to most the Bush-fearing world are general knowledge and do your own research, i think the link you're looking for is here

  103. Re:Nothing for you to see here. Please move along by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lol gb2wtfux.org

  104. Re:Osama's code-name by rush22 · · Score: 1

    A little off-topic (but interesting) bit of trivia, is that Osama's code-name in the CIA was Tim Osman.

  105. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by meadowsp · · Score: 1

    You didn't seem to fight it too much when you were paying for the IRA to kill civilians in the UK.

  106. Call me hopeful by argent · · Score: 1

    in the future this technology may be used in devices to detect bioterrorism chemicals

    I call the authors cynical, beabling on about "Homeland Security" because that's currently a good way to get funding.

    I think this is going to be more useful for medicine, as another tool for quicker and more accurate diagnostic tests.

  107. digital dna by digitaldc · · Score: 1

    In a paper March 8 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, another team led by Weiss showed they could insert DNA into cells to make them behave like digital circuits."
    This is awesome! Now it will be easier for people to 'do the robot.'

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  108. mandelbrodt strep throat by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 1

    Doctor : "you've contracted a new strain"
    Patient: "Is there any medication for it"
    Doctor : "No, but for fifty thousand jillion dollars your insurance will pick up the tab for the diarreah pills, and you get these really cool pictures of your bacteria forming some groovy colors and shapes."
    Patient: "Cool!! .. hey doc, got any acid?"

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  109. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by argent · · Score: 1

    Excuse me Sir, did you vote Nixon in 1972?

    Hard as it is to imagine, the current US president makes me nostalgic for Nixon. Seriously. I don't think the US has had a president like George W Bush since Andrew Jackson promoted "spoilsmanship".

  110. Coming soon... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...the ad supported cancer cure - gets rid of tumors and leaves behind skin pigment patterns that help to pay for your treatment. "I'm alive thanks to the guys at GlaxoBayerBurroughsWellcomeSmithKlineBeechamPfizer Pharm!"

  111. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 1

    btw, your post had no links, so you'll pardon me if I call bullshit on your claims.

    As if most of your post didn't already tell us what we needed to know, this final line told us not only were you too stupid to think for yourself, but you're also too stupid to use Google.

    There's a reason people like you make most rational Americans very unhappy with the state of our nation. It's the same reason the rest of the world is really getting tired of US bullshit.

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    Moderation Totals: Wrong=2, Stupid=3, Total=5.
  112. good think you didn't mod by elgatozorbas · · Score: 3, Insightful
    BTW, I could have just modded you down for trolling, but I don't want people in other counties to think that most of America are as screwed up as you. It seemed more important to let people know that most Americans think you are an asshat.

    Which was a good idea. I cannot speak for my whole country (Belgium, which has problems of its own, btw), let alone _all_ other countries of course. But the US are seen as ignorant navel-gazers who are surprised that terrorist attack them, and go and reinforce what THEY (U.S.) think is right, as a 'police of the world'. Attacking other countries under false pretences, holding prisoners without trial for years, not caring about treaties, not caring about shooting former hostages (Guiliana), just because that is part of their policital agenda. And then the US is surprised that nobody loves them.

    So it is nice to see some Americans remember what democracy and freedom it was all about...

    1. Re:good think you didn't mod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have lived in America my whole life born and raised, when I was a kid in school, I used to feel so proud to be an american. As I got older (im 22) I became ashamed to be an american. The american gov't is not for the ppl anymore, its for stuffing it's fat pockets, and calling it a "national debt"

      When Goerge Bush can spend billions a day on a war how can americans justify the lack of money in our schools or policeman or anything else recieves?

    2. Re:good think you didn't mod by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm with you. I love my country and I always will, but I'm ashamed of its government.

    3. Re:good think you didn't mod by PakProtector · · Score: 1

      ...cannot speak for my whole country (Belgium, which has problems of its...

      Watch your mouth!

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    4. Re:good think you didn't mod by Random832 · · Score: 1

      so they're run by the state? ok, who runs the huge federal income tax that is bleeding the states dry [by making it harder to have any reasonably sized state income tax]

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  113. Role reversal by ChaoticSilly · · Score: 2, Funny

    Software has had bugs forever. Now the bugs have software.

  114. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But do you really think people would be willing to die just to hurt the US without any reason? Terrorism is the price America pays for it's hubris. While our pride and unrelenting arrogance don't justify terrorism, they are the root cause of it.

    You know, you'd of had to hold a gun to my head to get me to vote for Bush, and I too am frequently embarassed by America's hubris, but I no more believe Bush than I believe this narrow, simplistic explanation for radical islamic behavior.

  115. Worse? by TuringTest · · Score: 1

    Imagine a cluster of bacteria!!!!

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  116. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by cpatten · · Score: 1

    Just because your views are what is shown on TV doesn't make them the majority. George Bush and his murderous cronies certainly don't represent me. George Bush is doing a good job? Are you mad? He is a traitor, and a fiend (A diabolically evil or wicked person).

  117. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But like, come on dude, your post didn't contain any links! Links are the life blood of the Internet, and if you're not with the Internet, you're against it. You're not some internet hating traitor, are you? Support our Internet!

    -- Al Gore.

  118. Overclocking those suckers by Mad+Merlin · · Score: 1

    I wonder if they'd be overclocking tolerant, and if so, I also wonder how well they'd work in a beowulf cluster...

  119. The truth about the US and bin Laden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I keep seeing this big lie printed everywhere, despite the fact that it isn't true. Every time it's posted, there's never a link to a single credible source that backs anything up. If someone makes a claim that big, and no credible source ever discusses it, that should make your bullshit detectors start sounding.

    The truth is that the US helped train and equip native Afghans to fight the Soviets. The Afghans we trained were not the Taliban. The Taliban were Islamic students at radical madrassahs during the war. (The name Taliban is the Arabic word for "students"). Bin Laden's group were the "Afghan Arabs," and the name al-Qaeda comes from the Arabic word qaedat bayanat, or "database." Al-Qaeda was original bin Laden's list of Arab fighters in Afghanistan.

    The native Afghanis hate the Arabs, and still do. The Arabs didn't particularly care for the Afghans, and really hated the US. The Arabs didn't take money from the CIA, and they wouldn't have. The Afghans were more than happy to do so.

    The native Afghan fighters fought against the Taliban in the civil war, and were pushed back to the Tajik frontiers by 2001. Their leader, Ahmed Shah Masood (the Lion of Pansjir) was one of the CIA's top contacts during the war with the Soviets, and was the founder of the Northern Alliance. Bin Laden had him killed 2 days before 9/11 to help keep the Taliban on his side.

    Those same Afghans who fought with the Americans against the Soviets were the same Afghans who fought with the Americans against the Taliban.

    1. Re:The truth about the US and bin Laden by Catullus · · Score: 1
      The sources I could find don't appear to back up your claim. According to MSNBC:

      bin Laden, along with a small group of Islamic militants from Egypt, Pakistan, Lebanon, Syria and Palestinian refugee camps all over the Middle East, became the "reliable" partners of the CIA in its war against Moscow.

      According to an analyst quoted by the BBC, "he received security training from the CIA itself". And with regard to the "Afghan Arabs", the Guardian says

      Others point out that the military contribution of the 'Arabs', as the overseas volunteers were known, was relatively small. 'The fighting was done by the Afghans and most of them went back to their fields when Kabul fell to the mujahideen,' said Kamaal Khan, a Pakistani defence analyst. 'Ironically, the bulk of American aid went to the least effective fighters, who turned most strongly to bite the hand that fed them.'
    2. Re:The truth about the US and bin Laden by gnuman99 · · Score: 1
      Well, Ron Paul says differently, We should recognize that American tax dollars helped to create the very Taliban government that now wants to destroy us. In the late 1970s and early 80s, the CIA was very involved in the training and funding of various fundamentalist Islamic groups in Afghanistan, some of which later became today's brutal Taliban government. In fact, the U.S. government admits to giving the groups at least 6 billion dollars in military aid and weaponry, a staggering sum that would be even larger in today's dollars. Bin Laden himself received training and weapons from the CIA, and that agency's military and financial assistance helped the Afghan rebels build a set of encampments around the city of Khost. http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2001/tst110501.ht m

      If you give a bunch of people 6 billion dollars, well, many many millions WILL end up with Taliban. Heck, I've seen in various movies (documentries made by US gov't) showing the CIA with the fundamentalist freedom fighters. They even said how the US believes in their fight against the atheist soviets (emphesize atheist).

      Of course, the CIA will deny funding bin Laden, but then, they probably didn't give money to him diretly anyway. It just went though a third party and ended up with bin Laden and the CIA knew that.

      Here's the CIA's propaganda: http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/24- 318760.html

      The CIA ignored the Russian story. Stories of suicide missions of the jihadists where they entered a camp, high on drugs so they don't feel pain, shooting everyone. Soldiers said that even when the enemy was leaking blood like a sieve he continued to shoot until killed or lost conciesness. And where did those people get american weapons, including state of the art (at the time) ground-to-air missles? 3rd party!!? LOL.

      Also, you will not find much from gov't sources about CIA and drug smuggling, yet there is more than enough evidence of CIA's involvment in smuggling drugs, even into the US itself!

  120. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You, sir, should open an good history book!

  121. In order to get continued funding.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes. You have to have some angle to satisfy the bureaucrats so thay can placate their constituants (not satisfy them, they only satisfy those that voluntarily pay them large sums).

  122. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Art+Tatum · · Score: 1, Insightful
    It's not hubris. It's defense against the Soviet Union. You may be too young to remember, but there was a time when a nation called the USSR was working to invade 3rd world countries and amass an empire. We helped stop that. And the people in, for example, Afghanistan, were very grateful for our help. When it was over, though, we simply left and let radical Muslims take over.

    No, they don't hate us 'for our freedom.' But they also don't hate us for opposing the USSR. They hate us because we won't submit to their bloody, violent, backwards, worthless piece of crap religion. Islam has the goal of world domination and we are the targets because we won't submit to enslavement.

  123. Waiting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Though applications may not come for awhile,

    Other news - we will we have to wait a while for correct English / proffreading skills on/.

  124. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I always love to hear a peaceful, tolerant, loving liberal rant and scream like a 5 year old in handcuffs. Liberals have lost it and your post points out this fact. There once was a time when being a Liberal was a good thing, the reason why the United States exsists as a country is because a bunch of liberals, had the guts to thumb their noses at the King of England. No longer are liberals the progressives, they have become the "depressives" living in a world of doom and gloom. Dwelling on the bad, but offering no real answers to fix the problems. Yes we have made gross mistakes in foreign policy, this is nothing new, hasn't changed since LBJ. When you make a mistake, there are two things you can do, either hide your head and hope no one finds out, or deal with the mistake and do your best to right the wrong. We trained madmen to fight the Soviets, the Soviets trained madmen to fight us. The madmen we created attacked us and the madmen the Soviets created attacked Russia. Now we have to break out the shovels and clean up the horse crap we are responsible spreading. I for one, am glad, that you as a Liberal, can Americ-bash, with out getting arrested, tortured and executed, it means we are still better than some countries out there.

    I hope you find peace in your life. As my Grandmother said on her 101st birthday. "Nothing ages you faster than a bitter heart, nothing forestalls old age better than a greacious spirit."

  125. opens loads of possibilities... by popra · · Score: 1

    My botNet will be the envy of the world... milions of blondes with the soul purpose in life to flood the hell out of anyone who dares mock me on irc

  126. Human Hubris by publicenemy23 · · Score: 0

    It is fascinating to me how human beings can be so full of themselves to call a bullseye a "complex shape". Newsflash: The human body and all the mechanisms within it is a "complex shape" that is instigated and maintained by cell-cell communication. To me, this article just shows how far we are behind controlling the actual root processes involved in biological systems. This is like a pre-historic artist in a cave writing with his own feces on the wall of some cliff somewhere, while the complex artistic qualities of nature are all around him. Scientists, what will they think of next.

  127. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by danila · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How about Luis Posada Carriles? He is wanted by Venezuela for a plane bombing where about 70 people died. He is wanted in connection with numours assassination attemts by Cuba. He has proven ties with CIA and he is in Florida right now, seeking asylum. Interestingly, the US media is silent on the issue, with only a few article by Miami Herald and several brief mentions in some minor papers.

    The United States is questioned in the UN, Cuba and Venezuela demand a response, but the US government is silent. They know better. They understand that if the media is not allowed to raise a stink, the issue will die down and noone will be aware of the crimes committed by CIA. Noone will realise that US does support terrorists, real terrorists that blow planes. And if anyone will tell the US public, it will react with indignation, because "everybody knows that the United States doesn't get involved in terrorism".

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  128. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by danila · · Score: 0

    This is a lie. Soviet Union never planned on a world revolution after the WW2. And it always stuck to the agreements with the West, because peace was seen as more important than supporting communism. Soviet Union was no invading 3rd world countries, unlike the US (Vietnam, Korea, etc.), it was supporting democratically elected socialist governments. Unlike the US that for some reason supported authoritarian dictators (Pinochet, Noriega, Batista, etc.).

    Soviet Union was not planning on attacking the US or European countries. But if you read now open documents from the Cold War planners (50 years has passed, they are available), you will realise that it was the US that was planning on destroying the Soviet Union. It was the Soviet Union that had to defend itself.

    If you use some common sense, you will realise that Soviet Union had no reason to invade countries - after all, it was supporting the 3rd world countries, by building factories, hydroelectric dams, providing engineers, training local specialists, etc., while the US was milking the colonies for resources.

    Capitalist countries are imperialistic. Soviet Union could not be and wasn't and the fact that you believe the American propaganda is very sad.

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  129. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't it ironic, that the people who give the US shame around the world are it's so-called "Patriots"? At the other side of the coin, the people who the US a good name are people like yourself whom the "Patriots" label as traitors/whatnot...

    Don't worry, most people around world aren't like your so-called "Patriots". We are rational like you, and we know that what the US goverment does around the world is not what real Americans stand for.

  130. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by GileadGreene · · Score: 1
    MOST AMERICANS think like I do, and put the president back in power because he's doing a good job

    I think you mispelled "51% of those Americans who bothered to vote."

  131. I Can See It Now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BOSS: "Your programming is complete SHIT!"

    ME: "EXACTLY!"

  132. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "He's being a leader and it's up to you to be part of the solution, not part of the whining, complaining problem."

    Wrong. As a citizen, my only responsibility is to my country, not to any of its (temporary) leaders. I'll do what I think is best for the USA, even that means opposing current leadership.

    Now that I think of it, you've got things almost completely backwards. The citizenry of the United States has no responsibility whatsoever to be loyal to the President. The President, however, *does* have a responsibilty to be loyal to the citizenry. After all, we put him there to act on our behalf and for our benefit.

    And he doesn't seem to be doing that very well.

  133. That's not a bacterial infection by cylcyl · · Score: 1

    It's a beowulf cluster

  134. Woohoo! Now I can put my bacteria to real use. by bobzieruncle · · Score: 1

    Does this mean I can turn the back of my refrigerator into another web server?

  135. I have an OS that behaves like a bacteria by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's called Windows. Infects growing organisms and causes them to die or malfunction. Spreads freely. Is agressive and immune to the usual agents.

  136. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MOST AMERICANS think like I do, and put the president back in power because he's doing a good job

    You, and people like you, are the reason I don't vote.

    I am not proud of my failure to vote. I admit that I am probably being hypocritical and/or cynical. But I have a hard time getting over the fact that for every one of me, there are ten of you. My intelligent and independent vote is always overpowered by your obedient zombie-votes.

    I have heard this voiced as a fundamental criticism of the democratic ideal: the least intelligent, most-impressionable masses wind up controlling the country. As much as I love the idea of "the people" controlling their destiny, I can't find any good reason to disagree with Plato's assertion that truth (and power) are outright dangerous in the hands of the masses.

    You, sir, and your president, are proof of this.

    --AC

  137. Open Source? by POLAX · · Score: 1

    I wonder if someone can start programming some bacteria and release them under the GPL?

  138. Talk about portable computing. by Gulik · · Score: 1

    The article also has pictures of the programmed E. coli.

    "Oh, come on, you just pulled those numbers out of your ass."

    "Well, that's where I keep my computing resources. If you pass me that bowl of brussels sprouts, I'll show you how far I've gotten on MP3 playback."

  139. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jingoistic egotism killed the people who were obstacles to building the country you love. Force and violence expanded it and secured it, as they do all other major nations. Quit being a naive little bitch and get a clue.
    I don't give a damn about "fair and impartial" anything. I want my co-ideologists to win, period full stop."But do you really think people would be willing to die just to hurt the US without any reason?" No, but they understand that their culture and religion are inherently incompatible with modern civilisation so they, rightly from their POV seek to destroy it. Those who disagree should think as clearly and be as ruthless as our forbears who fought Islam to a standstill and saved Europe.
    I hope the conflict becomes so polarising that people like yourself are deprived of the choice to upt out and are forced to fight.

  140. Targetted Bacteria by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but this bears a good chance of allowing targetted bacteria, right? One the plus side, it would allow someone to build bacteria that's keyed to a single person, possibly even a single system, allowing one to devise a bacterium which release medicine or enzymes only for the one person, and possibly expiring after a fixed amount of time, allowing for some interesting medical treatments.

    On the other hand, the same ability could be used to key bacteria to a specific person, to discharge a certain enzyme or chemical at a set time or duration, then expire, leading to an interesting way to poison a specific person.

    That said, said technology is probably pretty far out in the future. I have not read TFA, but I suspect the "programming" is on the level of creating an adder or coding it to follow the route of a maze.

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  141. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Alot of your points are very valid but you expose your ignorance with the whole traitor talk stuff. Just as the people who currently disagree with the Bush crowd can be patroits so can those who agree. It's usually a difference of underlying priorities, perceived trusted parties, and different areas of expertise that results in the disagreement not one group or the other being traitors or stupid. That's why it's so important to hear all side because people with differing perspectives all add to the best picture of the truth possible, at lest for complex issues.

  142. Just wrong.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    This is just wrong.. I believe that bacteria are also living things and are not to be tortured by us. It is time for humans to stop thinking that we are the sole owners of this planet.
    Each day we come up with new ideas to torture, kill, humiliate fellow living things. Just because we are capable of things does not mean we should do it. We are also the only living things capable of understanding what we are doing. So time to stop all this.

  143. hitchikers guide to the galaxy anyone? by Colin+Smith · · Score: 1

    Where the entire planet is a large computer where the purpose is to work out the meaning of life.

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  144. Brainstorm by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 2, Interesting

    literally. What could we do with this? I immediately thought of a problem it might help to solve. How do you get wires into a person's brain, in millions or billions of places, to read and write to individual neurons. We've seen articles recently that talk about using our brains to control devices, or using these probes to read neurons and decode the information. I wonder if these bacteria could be used somehow to grow very tiny wires throughout an entire brain which could provide a was to read and write information to the brain.

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  145. Why it's so quiet in the universe ... by ankhank · · Score: 1

    Scenario --

    -- the plans to store carbon dioxide in old oilfields go forward.

    -- the CO2 being injected into the old oil fields is, of course, contaminated by bacterial computer components.

    -- bacteria, being present in almost every geological structure for a mile or so below the surface, provide both a vast number of components and a rapid rate of evolutionary selection. Earth wakes up.

    -- Earth sneezes. We're gone.

  146. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by jimi+the+hippie · · Score: 1

    "Unfortunately, after two illegal and constitutionally invalid elections..."

    Which elections would those be??

  147. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...the least intelligent..."

    Is that why the majority of the US is Republican?

  148. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by jimi+the+hippie · · Score: 1

    "If you use some common sense, you will realise that Soviet Union had no reason to invade countries - after all, it was supporting the 3rd world countries, by building factories, hydroelectric dams, providing engineers, training local specialists, etc., while the US was milking the colonies for resources."

    Ok, so when Soviet Union uses it's power in another country it is helping, but when the USA does the SAME THING it is imperialism?

    The Soviets were helping because they knew that they would get something in return. They also realized that their system would not support itself; in order to maintain a living standard (which they couldn't do) they would need to continue to obtain new property from which to extract resources. This is exactly what colonialist Europe was about in the 1800's, except the Europeans weren't doing it to survive, they were doing it to thrive.

    "Soviet Union was no [sic] invading 3rd world countries"

    Am I the only one that remembers Afghanistan??

    (http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Soviet -U nion-invades-Afghanistan)
    "The war was regarded by many as an unprovoked invasion of a sovereign country by another. The United Nations General Assembly passed United Nations Resolution 37/37 on November 29, 1983, which stated that the Soviet Union forces should withdraw from Afghanistan. However, others supported the Soviet Union, regarding it as coming to the rescue of an impoverished ally, or as a pre-emptive war against Islamist terrorists."

    Sounds awfully familiar, doesn't it? Yet, the USA is the bad guy, while the USSR is the downtrodden, lone hero surrounded by a world of evil.

  149. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1.) Cite the sources of all your "facts"

    2.) Stop blaming America for all the shitheads who have come and gone as leaders / terrorists / dictators in other "nations" who you claim are "installed" by American government.

    If you read world history, you will see that it was a brutal, warring, vulgar, power-hungry sewer with "nations" coming and going with the ever-shifting borders of warring tribes and ethnic groups. This was the status quo for millenia.

    Over two centuries ago, the United States came into being and inherited a lot of the baggage of the world, like slavery, warfare, etc.

    But the U.S. eventually rid itself of slavery and the rest of the world followed.

    Just a handful of decades ago, the Germans were ignorant enough to believe they were some "Master Race"...ha ha...what a joke, but 100 million people had to die to prove them wrong. It took American combat to help turn the tide. Imperfect America compromised with Stalin and cut Germany in half, but notice that the half that Imperfect America was protecting became a flourishing democracy and economic powerhouse and the half that Russia controlled was a brutal dictatorship, not fit for dogs.

    Same example applies to the Japanese...a bunch of dumbfuck "suicide bombers" who believed their Emperor was God and caused death and misery everywhere they went until America "wake and baked" them. Was it brutal? Very. Inhumane? No doubt. Morally wrong? Perhaps. But it did end the war and teach the Japanese (like the Germans) that they weren't invincible and had no divine right to rule the world...and today, like Germany, they are a thriving democracy, sane, peaceful and friends of America.

    Now we see the same historical pattern of tribal / religious ignorance, delusions of grandeur and invincibility playing out in the Islamic world...and like before...it's gonna take a lot of war from America to "tame" these monkeys, teach them hard lessons and bring them back to reality and into the fold of the human family.

    Once all nations are true (and like America, imperfect) democracies, and the world is relatively peaceful, then we can all work on improving democracy itself, and possibly replacing it with something better?

    Until then, the beatings will continue until morale improves!

  150. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by wolf+baby · · Score: 1

    that's ok

  151. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by namekuseijin · · Score: 1

    "MOST AMERICANS think like I do" to put it buntly: if you think differently, you're not a true american, despite the American Constitution giving you the right to do so in the very First Ammendment. quite contradictory way of thinking... i'm not american, BTW...

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  152. meanwhile..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in someone else's intestine, a bunch of bacteria tried to learn java but they just shit(themselves);

  153. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by norsk_hedensk · · Score: 1

    bush a traitor, as well as the rest of the people involved in running the government, including lobbying corporations.

  154. evolution by joncastle · · Score: 1

    Wasn't this invented in a lab along time ago? Mimicking evolution using small programs.

  155. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Tim+C · · Score: 1

    Islam has the goal of world domination

    Listened to many evangelical Christians recently?

  156. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, George Bush is doing a good job. He does what the corporations pay him for.

  157. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by NoizeyMike · · Score: 1

    Everything he's claimed was taught to me in first and second year university history and study of war courses.

    If enough replies don't convice you, email me and I'll go looking for references.

    I respect your political interests (and opinions) but, I don't think it should blind your vision of the world (incidently you should see <i>Fog of War</i> it's a great documentary what ever you believe). Most of the soldiers who were involved in death squads in South America were trained at the Academy of the America's (think I've got the name right - right now), i think Noreaga or his sargeants among them.

    So i guess my point is you shouldn't discount the angry opinions of many others as 'whining', I think to do so would be to be blind and dismissive of the values that the US was founded on.

    Mike

  158. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not hubris. It's defense against the Soviet Union. You may be too young to remember, but there was a time when a nation called the USSR was working to invade 3rd world countries and amass an empire. We helped stop that. And the people in, for example, Afghanistan, were very grateful for our help. When it was over, though, we simply left and let radical Muslims take over.

    It's too bad Eastern Europe wasn't as important to American interests as Afghanistan. Many a Czech/Slovak/Hungarian/etc would have appreciated some intervention.

  159. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by egoriot · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I'll give you that America has trained and supplied people and groups that have gone on to commit atrocities. Maybe we even supported them while they were doing these things. Maybe some people in government even knew about them as they were happening.

    Your conclusion seems to be that these things are cause for recent terrorist actions against us. I don't think this is exactly correct. From what I've read many Arabs dislike the American government because of our military and monetary support for Israel, as well as the fact the we have troop stationed on their land (ie Saudi Arabia).

    Even if all of these things are true, however, it doesn't follow that the American government has acted irresponsibly in the past and continues to do so now. The real world is full of hard choices, and maybe the best decision in the 1980's was to support the mujahadeen against the communists, even if there was a risk they would later turn against us. Is the world a better place without the Cold War but with Islamic terrorism? Are we a better country for having picked that battle and (arguably) won it?

    You also seem to suggest that our responsibility for terrorism means we need a more pacifist, compromising, multilateral foreign policy. This doesn't sound like a recipe for success to me. Maybe you could provide more details on what exactly you would do differently from this administration.

    BTW, nobody has found credible evidence of election fraud that would have turned the election. I have to wonder if the Democrats had done better, but with the same election abnormalities as have been reported, you would still consider the election "illegal". I somehow doubt it.

  160. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Crazy+Eight · · Score: 2, Insightful
    They hate us because we won't submit to their bloody, violent, backwards, worthless piece of crap religion. Islam has the goal of world domination and we are the targets because we won't submit to enslavement.

    Bullshit. They hate us because they don't want us stopping them from making Muslims submit to Wahabbism -- or at least what Wahabbists want for government.

  161. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by NoizeyMike · · Score: 1

    A correction my prior post called it the Academy of the America's

    It's actuall School of the America's

    Mike

  162. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by danila · · Score: 2, Interesting

    1) Soviet Union was not a colonialist state. It didn't "extract" resources from 3rd world countries, on the contrary, it poured resources into them. Ask any Egyptian, Cuban, Vietnamese, Indian, Chinese or a person from any other country friendly to the USSR. Soviet Union provided immeasurable resources - specialists, technologies, training, equipment, everything in order to help its friends build powerful societies. The United States, as you well realise, does exactly the opposite.

    2) Yeah, sorry for forgetting about Afghanistan. That's one example where the Soviet Union did invade. It was much more complicated, however, and it was indeed done to remove a threat to the security of the Soviet Union (as you can easily see on any world map). Another example was Finland - again Soviet Union had no other choice and tried to resolve matters peacefully. There were no unprovoked attacks on countries on the other side of the world with extermination of civilian populace and stuff. Heck, Soviet soldiers and officers were summarily executed for pillage in 1945 in Germany. Soviet Union wasn't an aggressive country, despite the lies perpetrated by neocons in late 1980s (watch the brilliant BBC documentary The Power of Nightmares to see how it was carried out).

    The general point is still valid - Soviet Union was usually a friend, while the United States generally acts as an enemy.

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  163. A Guide to Trolling by coopex · · Score: 0, Troll

    You might want to be aware of the fact that planning to commit a crime counts as conspiricy.

    Also, try to work on your trolling. Sure, you've got +2 insightful as I write this, but the guy who posted that the CIA trained bin laden is at +5 http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=147726 &cid=12380833. Some important points:
    Usually speak in generalities, and don't provide links.
    When you do provide facts, make them difficult to verify, i.e. claim to have some position where you're in a position to hear privlidged information, or refer to their availablity though something that would take time and effort to verify, like the FOIA
    Always make it clear that what you say is 100% true, using words like verified, undisputed, etc..., and be sure to use at least 3 of them each time you do.
    If trolling against america, make it clear that you don't hate america, don't support terrorism, then go own to blame america for wearing a short skirt.
    At the end, make ad homiem attacks. This is sometimes quite tricky, so make sure that you've used enough emotional rhetoric that you could advocate that babies are tastey and be modded +5 if you choose to do this.

    I'd apperciate anyone who is more experienced with Trollology to expand on this.

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    1. Re:A Guide to Trolling by Frodo+Crockett · · Score: 1

      I'm not a student of Trollology, but this document might prove useful to aspiring trolls. If anyone besides them has the patience to read the whole damn thing (I don't), I'm sure they'll learn a lot about spotting trolls.

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  164. You contradict yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > It's not hubris....They hate us because we won't submit to their bloody, violent,
    > backwards, worthless piece of crap religion.

    And that's not hubris?

    Would you prefer your diatribe against the world's billion Muslims be referred to as "arrogance" or "intolerance" or "racism" instead?

    It's narrow-minded bigots like you who give America a bad name, and indirectly endanger American lives. Think about it - how many people at work passionately hate the nice, honest guy? How many hate the backstabbing bully?

    Think about it.

    1. Re:You contradict yourself by Art+Tatum · · Score: 0, Troll
      And that's not hubris?

      No. It's truth.

  165. Your timeline is wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > But the U.S. eventually rid itself of slavery and the rest of the world followed.

    If by "the rest of the world followed", you mean "the US abolished slavery later than Britain, France, Spain, Sweden, Holland, and even Russia", then you're right.

    Your post reflects a woeful lack of knowledge about the world outside the US, and of the truly limited role the US played in many of the events you discuss. Such ignorance does not help improve America's image.

    1. Re:Your timeline is wrong by snuf23 · · Score: 1

      It's also worthy of note that for the U.S. to abolish slavery it took an extremely bloody civil war that almost destroyed the country.

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  166. wired: life reinvented - how bio bricks work by goon · · Score: 1

    Wired has an article on Drew Endy and Tom Knight: Life Reinvented (Issue 13.01 - January 2005). For those interested the article also illustrates how the parts can be assembled as bio bricks.

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  167. The First Step... by Tacky+the+Penguin · · Score: 1

    Every multicellular plant or animal starts from a single cell. Those cells are programmed via their genetic code to assemble themselves into a specific pattern. Research has shown that this is done by means of chemical messages.

    What they have done, in this case, is to insert their own instructions. The patterns are primitive, but it's a start. The next step will be to get the cells to differentiate -- that is, to take on different functions (nerve cells, muscle cells, etc.)

    Before the first digital computer was made, the logic gate was invented. Think of this as a first step toward creating our own multicellular organisms, or modifying existing ones.

  168. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Art+Tatum · · Score: 1

    No, but I don't see what it has to do with whether we should all become Muslims or die.

  169. Get ready for a great revolution by ravee · · Score: 1

    The article says...
    The research could lead to smart biological devices that could detect hazardous substances or bioterrorism chemicals, scientists say. Eventually, the process might be used to direct the construction of useful devices or the growth of new tissue, perhaps restoring function to a severed spinal cord.

    Reading the above line(s) brings to mind the scenes in the movie Terminator , in which Arnold Swasnegger (sorry about the spelling :) ) playing the part of terminator says that his outer skin is actually a mass of living tissue.
    And then there is the movie matrix in which the computer takes control of every human life including their thought process.

    Really scary in one way but if used in the right direction can be a boon to mankind. I guess science is a tool which can be put to constructive as well as destructive purposes. It all depends on the wielder of the tool.

    On the Plus side, in the near (or far) future we might have computers which are actually made of billions of bacteria which are used to run softwares. And these computers will most probably be tiny which you can say implant just below your skin for instance. So all you have to do is go to a Information hotspot where there are monitors, keyboards and mice and just start doing your work. You may not have to plug in these devices to your computer as it will be totally wireless. Ofcourse there is a downside to this because it will be easy to track your movements . You will have to forfiet your privacy.

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  170. Binary Bacteria! by SagaLore · · Score: 0
    This article doesn't even begin to hypothesize about the biggest ramifications of this expirement!

    The researchers programmed E. coli bacteria to emit red or green fluorescent light in response to a signal emitted from another set of E. coli.


    Think about this. Not only can they communicate via self-created signals, but they can align themselves in configurations based off the encoding of the extra dna. You combine these techniques together, and you have an organic computer!

    They could symbolize an ON(1) with red emittance, and OFF(0) with green emittance. When they receive such a signal, they move to a determined angle of their neighbor's position. With enough bacteria you end up with logic gates. With enough logic gates you end up with arithmetic. With enough arithmetic you end up with routines, and so on...

    And with enough bacteria altogether, you end up with one amazing light show - and Artificial Intelligence.
  171. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Art+Tatum · · Score: 1
    Soviet Union never planned on a world revolution after the WW2.

    That's correct. They planned on world consolidation under a Soviet banner. They poured money and resources into the Mideast, Eastern Europe, the Far East, Africa, and South and Central America because they were building client states. The Soviets never left the conquered territory of WWII, and they continued to invade and support invasions or revolutions in other nations, like Hungary, in the years that followed. They supported subversives throughout the world. They took initiative in launching the Korean War. They planned invasion of West Germany. They plotted the overthrows in Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Angola, Ethiopia, and other nations. Brezhnev created a team called "internationalists" who dressed as local citizens and mixed in with local populations until an order was given to start revolution.

    It was and still is quite common to recruit 'false flag' informants by misleading targets into thinking they are being recruited by the CIA, or Mossad, or religious organizations, or peace and ecological protest organizations.

    The 61st Meeting of the National Defense Council of the GDR even revealed the existence of large underground caverns with new street signs, new currencies, and medals for officers involved in an invasion of West Germany.

    But you know what? I don't even need to bother. It doesn't matter what anybody says, you've made your mind up just as I have. Go crazy and believe what you want.

  172. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by Art+Tatum · · Score: 1
    It's too bad Eastern Europe wasn't as important to American interests as Afghanistan.

    Yes, it is. American leadership in 1956 was wrong and we paid dearly for it. That's why we changed course later on and that's why we should continue an interventionist policy now.

  173. New Poll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As I was scrolling down the page, I read the headline "Bacteria Made to Behave as Computers
    Biotech Science Posted by CowboyNeal" as

    "Bacteria Made to Behave as CowboyNeal".

  174. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by 0x0000 · · Score: 1
    A true American Patriot follows his own morals, not his president. If your morals align with our current governments, then you are a traitor to the very ideals that are supposed to set us above all the commies and terrorists.

    patriots wear black

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  175. Re:mod -1 Americ-bashing by PseudoThin · · Score: 1

    I've always wondered what people mean when they say the US taught those people terrorism.

    Teaching someone to build bombs is not teaching them terrorism.

    Teaching someone to use those bombs against military targets is not terrorism.

    Teaching someone to use those bombs against civilians to create fear in the populace IS terrorism.

    So, did we tell them to blow up movie theatres or did we tell them to blow up barracks? There's a huge difference between the two.

    I don't know which we did but I would like to know if the people claiming that we taught these people terrorism actually know what the hell terrorism is.