Theoretical capacity or capacity-in-a-laboratory is completely irrelevant and is comparable to this press release that claims Blu-ray is what consumers want, even though you can't buy any movies in either format yet. The fact remains that HD movies only require twice the space that a regular movie does, so the first cheap player for cheap discs @ 20GB should be the winner.
Hmmm, let's see... Panasonic's Blu-ray player costs $2780 with $69 for the mythical 50GB disc or $32 for the real-world 25GB disc. Nope, not there yet. Not there in 2006 at all, I think.
Personally, I think consumers are going to be hard to push from good-enough DVDs to over-hyped hi-def anyway. Add to that a ridiculous DRM that requires new TVs and monitors and prohibits copies of media that's likely to be less durable than DVD (especially Blu-ray), then I know I'm going to save a fortune by not buying any of it. Non-DRM dual-layer DVD will be my solution of choice until they offer me something truly better.
I usually mod up any mention of the FF memory leak, because it bugs the hell out of me, but since you're AC, I won't. Anyway, it's not annoying enough to start using Internet Exploder, but maybe it's time for an Opera test drive. I hope mouse gestures isn't the big draw, because rather than gimmicks I want a reliable, standards compliant, minimalist browser that works without bad features getting in the way.
I used to value the reviews found on a previous favorite electronics site: newegg.com - but now that they are known to delete negative reviews (beyond just bad language to describe the product in question) the review feature is actually a reason not to recommend it to friends and acquiantances.
I think they just missed the concept of providing something useful to the customer in order to make them a regular visitor, and they're enjoying the increased sales to people who don't realize that they are being duped. Oh sure, there's a disclaimer that says no one should rely on their reviews when making a product purchase (but here they are, so please do just that)
FYI, there were at least two that were permanent Tattoos for G.P., including the mother who did it for $10,000. $10,000 won't go very far for private school - not that I buy that story anyway.
I don't know the state of the art in tattoo removal, but that would have to come off if you want any hope of leaving "loser" status.
How many people read it before he found out it existed from someone else? So, future libel is avoided (temporarily), but some damage to his reputation might have already been done. It's a flaw, and Jimmy Wales recognizes it, even if you don't.
My second point is that people who don't edit Wikipedia are not necessarily stupid. He shouldn't have to join in to every internet project that comes along in order to expect fair treatment - obviously. Wikipedia doesn't rely on people like him anyway. The community is supposed to get it right, whether or not an articles' subject visits every page where he is mentioned.
Try not to be so contemptuous of the non-internet savy.
I can imagine that the stress that precipitated it was extraordinary.
Are you referring to hurricane Katrina?! If you think this is based on market forces and faulty prognostication you're nuts. They are fighting for survival. This link says that 86% of students will be back when the school reopens next January, which is more than they could have hoped for. Naturally they've suffered damage to facilities, lost students and faculty, and can expect lower enrollment for years to come.
Do you really think they used "activity based planning" instead of damage control mode to decide they had to close five undergraduate programs?
Point taken about RTFA, but is it too much to ask to have Title-Summary agreement? I see weak summaries from time to time, but obviously I am not the only one who wondered if this one belonged to another story. Who's project it is definitely shouldn't be left out, nor an explanation of the probably misused term, "bio-piracy" (as if "piracy" wasn't misused enough) Sounds more like patent-squatting to me.
I don't R every FA. I rely on titles and summaries to decide if I should.
Can I assume that you would outlaw motorcycles then? As a former rider, I can tell you how vulnerable we are out there. Let's start the parade of curtailing rights, because state money could possibly be involved - but take a minute to realize just how broad of a criterion that is. I think you could justify pretty much anything.
Personally, I think you should get thirty days in county lock-up if you don't wear a sweater outdoors in cold weather. We can't let these scoff-laws burden our government infrastructure.
Hint: Replace "scoff-law" with "ordinary citizen" to get the sarcasm.
I was so sad to witness the paid promotion of our local click-it or ticket campaign. When the police think it's a good idea to victimize ordinary citizens commiting no other offense, instead of pursuing more reckless behaviors or even...ahem... serious crime, then we have definitely gone down the wrong path. Do you feel bad about that misspent money? Or is it just medical expenses that piss you off?
Can I kick your ass after you don't stop shoving me?;-) (I know. Internet bravado)
The answer is that both will miss badly. And we're not talking about a little shove either. Knock him over. Hit him on the head with a frying pan, and let's see how much better that belted player does.
The argument is specious and not even a significant reason for this parental legislation.
Maybe because the police are tired of scraping up the remains of all the dumbshits who didn't wear their seat belts?
Maybe police don't like breaking up domestic quarrels and directing traffic either, but it's their damn job! They are being paid by my taxes besides, so I don't want any grousing.
BTW, I don't have a problem with getting tickets, but I recognize that they are excessive (no, of course that was never on the ballot - get real).
<remainder of reply aborted due to your bad attitude>
Unfortunately a lot of the abusive tactics of the DMV are created by ordinary bureaucrats not by legislators. At least the legislator traditionally has to worry about public anger. Remember when you could go to the DMV without an appointment? They actually had to attend to you? How about when you could explain that your vehicle was not being operated and you did not owe them any money for it. Now you have to inform them ahead of time that it is no longer in service, and you have to pay to do them this favor! Thousands of people wind up paying the DMV for *not* using their roads. And what about the price of tickets, when were those prices snuck through. Who figured out that $50 isn't enough deterrent for speeding or not wearing your seat belt? Why the fuck is not wearing your seat belt an offence at all!
They'll charge you whatever they want, they'll penalize you whetever they want if you're late, and in my state they can just go in without prior notice and take it out of your bank account. I think those DMV people must assume that the unwashed hordes that they see their building every day is representative of the public at large (it's frightening to visit that place isn't it?), or maybe they just see us as one big bank account that can always be tapped for a little more.
I don't take this proposal too seriously, because I don't think people will stand for it, but I'm sad for the lost millions that I will later being paying back to the government. If it ever does go public, expect mass civil disobediance. And with a car-mounted GPS jammer, I will enlist more people to my cause;-)
Happy driving. It's a priviledge, not a right, you know. Don't get too uppity about it.
How many people are going to recommend, "Don't install anything" as the solution to avoiding spyware? That may be fine for my grandma, but for the average level of expertise that you would find in this forum, it's overkill. I don't usually install shareware crap, but I would install it fearlessly. McAfee and ZoneAlarm will usually let me know when something's wrong - otherwise I'll spot it in processes, services, or the run-on-startup locations - and I can always deal with it. Most of us can, right?
Don't P2P? Yeah those mp3 files are really going to mess up my PC.
My XP box boots in 30 seconds, but it's not a big deal. It's certainly not worth an "Ask me how I did it" response.
There were plenty of 11G routers on sale during Black Friday. You could get a router for $20 or a Router/Client combo for $30. You really need something special if you say you can't afford wireless these days.
On the other hand I can't live without 11a, so I fall into the latter group.
Except you might not know it exists for months. We have seen enough examples of internet libel and character assassination to know that this is a legitmate concern. However, it's a product of the internet in general, and it's not much more outrageous that the medium was wikipedia this time. It could have easily been a blog or a hoax e-mail chain.
His remedy is obvious. If he thinks he has a case for libel, he can file the lawsuit - he has a lawyer on retainer it sounds like. Drag someone into court if you're that disgruntled. Or do what the rest of us without easy access to lawyers and newspaper editors do - get over it.
Where they lose me is Glide Shops. One thing the world doesn't need is yetanother shopping portal - discount or no discount. It doesn't it fit their elegant, effortless, and automatic theme either. Shopping is messy.
I wasn't looking for debate, I just wanted to see if you really had a point. Posting a wild claim without any supporting examples is suspicious. So, now we have 1 example and 49 unspecified pork-barrel projects that might contribute less to society than a space probe? Well, since you now think your original post was nonsense, I won't pursue it further.
And I'll let/.ers decide if the [admittedly expensive] International Space Station delivers nothing whatsoever.
Perhaps that statement was too sweeping? The consumer will not forgive "anything". In fact, I don't see the quality expectations as being much lower than any free service. That's really the important distinction between what we traditionally recognize as a beta leading to a retail product and these examples. Almost all these extended betas are free services.
For example, Hotmail may be in full release, but it's quality is bad (e.g. features that seem like bugs, usability crippled by advertising) So I chose not to use it. Gmail has the same standards of consumer appeal. If it is truly inadequate, as the Coke guy says, then it does not serve its purpose. That's why bugs *are* being fixed in beta. Furthermore, it's a mischaracterization to say that laziness is the reason not to address product issues in beta programs. Many of these are managed almost exactly as a fully released product would be. I take the beta tag to mean a lack of testing, but also that the product may be altered significantly before settling on its final disposition - which happens to be why I don't use gmail as my primary webmail account.
Haven't you ever heard a bad cover of a classic song on the radio and thought, "Except for these no-talent bastards, I'd be listening to the original right now."? I don't need a remake, or a cover, or an homage, or whatever the hell you want to call it. If it preempts one showing of the classic, then we're the worse off for it.
Among the problems they were claiming was that they could not yet be easily and cheaply mass produced, and that it still hasn't achieved its promised 40+ GB of storage outside of the lab.
A single-layer blue ray disc can fit 23-27GB. A dual-layer disc will be able to hold 46-54GB.
If they burned a single-layer disc, then this doesn't disprove anything, and if it's dual-layer, they should do a print run of a several thousand. This was just a stunt to try to change public perception. Good luck with that, Sony.
Then why do you make them? If every home in the country is being broken into, then your problem really isn't the hypothetical screwdriver. You wouldn't have that kind of a crime wave if people all left their doors unlocked.
The thing is, an analogy by itself is pretty weak. It's better to make your point first and use the analogy as support, because otherwise some dork always thinks he has a better one.
I've used fastmail for a while now, but the spam is keeping me away these days. If only I could filter cyrillic characters, I could get rid of most of it. Since, I can't conquer that, I really don't have the energy to fight the viagra/cialis/enlargement triumvirate.
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Theoretical capacity or capacity-in-a-laboratory is completely irrelevant and is comparable to this press release that claims Blu-ray is what consumers want, even though you can't buy any movies in either format yet. The fact remains that HD movies only require twice the space that a regular movie does, so the first cheap player for cheap discs @ 20GB should be the winner.
Hmmm, let's see... Panasonic's Blu-ray player costs $2780 with $69 for the mythical 50GB disc or $32 for the real-world 25GB disc. Nope, not there yet. Not there in 2006 at all, I think.
Personally, I think consumers are going to be hard to push from good-enough DVDs to over-hyped hi-def anyway. Add to that a ridiculous DRM that requires new TVs and monitors and prohibits copies of media that's likely to be less durable than DVD (especially Blu-ray), then I know I'm going to save a fortune by not buying any of it. Non-DRM dual-layer DVD will be my solution of choice until they offer me something truly better.
I usually mod up any mention of the FF memory leak, because it bugs the hell out of me, but since you're AC, I won't. Anyway, it's not annoying enough to start using Internet Exploder, but maybe it's time for an Opera test drive. I hope mouse gestures isn't the big draw, because rather than gimmicks I want a reliable, standards compliant, minimalist browser that works without bad features getting in the way.
I used to value the reviews found on a previous favorite electronics site: newegg.com - but now that they are known to delete negative reviews (beyond just bad language to describe the product in question) the review feature is actually a reason not to recommend it to friends and acquiantances.
I think they just missed the concept of providing something useful to the customer in order to make them a regular visitor, and they're enjoying the increased sales to people who don't realize that they are being duped. Oh sure, there's a disclaimer that says no one should rely on their reviews when making a product purchase (but here they are, so please do just that)
...that know how to flaunt the rules
Please flout rules. Do not flaunt them.
FYI, there were at least two that were permanent Tattoos for G.P., including the mother who did it for $10,000. $10,000 won't go very far for private school - not that I buy that story anyway.
I don't know the state of the art in tattoo removal, but that would have to come off if you want any hope of leaving "loser" status.
How many people read it before he found out it existed from someone else? So, future libel is avoided (temporarily), but some damage to his reputation might have already been done. It's a flaw, and Jimmy Wales recognizes it, even if you don't.
My second point is that people who don't edit Wikipedia are not necessarily stupid. He shouldn't have to join in to every internet project that comes along in order to expect fair treatment - obviously. Wikipedia doesn't rely on people like him anyway. The community is supposed to get it right, whether or not an articles' subject visits every page where he is mentioned.
Try not to be so contemptuous of the non-internet savy.
I don't know about Microsoft, but he's *my* worst nightmare. I hope he prime-moves from irrelevant to forgotten real soon.
(Microsoft HR: Sir, just forget about it. We weren't offering you a job.)
I can imagine that the stress that precipitated it was extraordinary.
Are you referring to hurricane Katrina?! If you think this is based on market forces and faulty prognostication you're nuts. They are fighting for survival. This link says that 86% of students will be back when the school reopens next January, which is more than they could have hoped for. Naturally they've suffered damage to facilities, lost students and faculty, and can expect lower enrollment for years to come.
Do you really think they used "activity based planning" instead of damage control mode to decide they had to close five undergraduate programs?
Point taken about RTFA, but is it too much to ask to have Title-Summary agreement? I see weak summaries from time to time, but obviously I am not the only one who wondered if this one belonged to another story. Who's project it is definitely shouldn't be left out, nor an explanation of the probably misused term, "bio-piracy" (as if "piracy" wasn't misused enough) Sounds more like patent-squatting to me.
I don't R every FA. I rely on titles and summaries to decide if I should.
P.S. Don't get mad about it, OK?
Can I assume that you would outlaw motorcycles then? As a former rider, I can tell you how vulnerable we are out there. Let's start the parade of curtailing rights, because state money could possibly be involved - but take a minute to realize just how broad of a criterion that is. I think you could justify pretty much anything.
Personally, I think you should get thirty days in county lock-up if you don't wear a sweater outdoors in cold weather. We can't let these scoff-laws burden our government infrastructure.
Hint: Replace "scoff-law" with "ordinary citizen" to get the sarcasm.
I was so sad to witness the paid promotion of our local click-it or ticket campaign. When the police think it's a good idea to victimize ordinary citizens commiting no other offense, instead of pursuing more reckless behaviors or even...ahem... serious crime, then we have definitely gone down the wrong path. Do you feel bad about that misspent money? Or is it just medical expenses that piss you off?
Can I kick your ass after you don't stop shoving me? ;-) (I know. Internet bravado)
The answer is that both will miss badly. And we're not talking about a little shove either. Knock him over. Hit him on the head with a frying pan, and let's see how much better that belted player does.
The argument is specious and not even a significant reason for this parental legislation.
Maybe because the police are tired of scraping up the remains of all the dumbshits who didn't wear their seat belts?
Maybe police don't like breaking up domestic quarrels and directing traffic either, but it's their damn job! They are being paid by my taxes besides, so I don't want any grousing.
BTW, I don't have a problem with getting tickets, but I recognize that they are excessive (no, of course that was never on the ballot - get real).
<remainder of reply aborted due to your bad attitude>
Unfortunately a lot of the abusive tactics of the DMV are created by ordinary bureaucrats not by legislators. At least the legislator traditionally has to worry about public anger. Remember when you could go to the DMV without an appointment? They actually had to attend to you? How about when you could explain that your vehicle was not being operated and you did not owe them any money for it. Now you have to inform them ahead of time that it is no longer in service, and you have to pay to do them this favor! Thousands of people wind up paying the DMV for *not* using their roads. And what about the price of tickets, when were those prices snuck through. Who figured out that $50 isn't enough deterrent for speeding or not wearing your seat belt? Why the fuck is not wearing your seat belt an offence at all!
;-)
They'll charge you whatever they want, they'll penalize you whetever they want if you're late, and in my state they can just go in without prior notice and take it out of your bank account. I think those DMV people must assume that the unwashed hordes that they see their building every day is representative of the public at large (it's frightening to visit that place isn't it?), or maybe they just see us as one big bank account that can always be tapped for a little more.
I don't take this proposal too seriously, because I don't think people will stand for it, but I'm sad for the lost millions that I will later being paying back to the government. If it ever does go public, expect mass civil disobediance. And with a car-mounted GPS jammer, I will enlist more people to my cause
Happy driving. It's a priviledge, not a right, you know. Don't get too uppity about it.
How many people are going to recommend, "Don't install anything" as the solution to avoiding spyware? That may be fine for my grandma, but for the average level of expertise that you would find in this forum, it's overkill. I don't usually install shareware crap, but I would install it fearlessly. McAfee and ZoneAlarm will usually let me know when something's wrong - otherwise I'll spot it in processes, services, or the run-on-startup locations - and I can always deal with it. Most of us can, right?
Don't P2P? Yeah those mp3 files are really going to mess up my PC.
My XP box boots in 30 seconds, but it's not a big deal. It's certainly not worth an "Ask me how I did it" response.
There were plenty of 11G routers on sale during Black Friday. You could get a router for $20 or a Router/Client combo for $30. You really need something special if you say you can't afford wireless these days.
On the other hand I can't live without 11a, so I fall into the latter group.
Except you might not know it exists for months. We have seen enough examples of internet libel and character assassination to know that this is a legitmate concern. However, it's a product of the internet in general, and it's not much more outrageous that the medium was wikipedia this time. It could have easily been a blog or a hoax e-mail chain.
His remedy is obvious. If he thinks he has a case for libel, he can file the lawsuit - he has a lawyer on retainer it sounds like. Drag someone into court if you're that disgruntled. Or do what the rest of us without easy access to lawyers and newspaper editors do - get over it.
Where they lose me is Glide Shops. One thing the world doesn't need is yetanother shopping portal - discount or no discount. It doesn't it fit their elegant, effortless, and automatic theme either. Shopping is messy.
I wasn't looking for debate, I just wanted to see if you really had a point. Posting a wild claim without any supporting examples is suspicious. So, now we have 1 example and 49 unspecified pork-barrel projects that might contribute less to society than a space probe? Well, since you now think your original post was nonsense, I won't pursue it further.
/.ers decide if the [admittedly expensive] International Space Station delivers nothing whatsoever.
And I'll let
I could trivially name fifty things which cost more than a space probe and contribute less.
You could trivially name fifty? I suspect many of your examples would be trivially refuted, which is probably why you didn't even come up with five.
We're supposed to take your word for it that you can?
Perhaps that statement was too sweeping? The consumer will not forgive "anything". In fact, I don't see the quality expectations as being much lower than any free service. That's really the important distinction between what we traditionally recognize as a beta leading to a retail product and these examples. Almost all these extended betas are free services.
For example, Hotmail may be in full release, but it's quality is bad (e.g. features that seem like bugs, usability crippled by advertising) So I chose not to use it. Gmail has the same standards of consumer appeal. If it is truly inadequate, as the Coke guy says, then it does not serve its purpose. That's why bugs *are* being fixed in beta. Furthermore, it's a mischaracterization to say that laziness is the reason not to address product issues in beta programs. Many of these are managed almost exactly as a fully released product would be. I take the beta tag to mean a lack of testing, but also that the product may be altered significantly before settling on its final disposition - which happens to be why I don't use gmail as my primary webmail account.
Are "anti-negative" stories about Microsoft really MS bashing? I think not.
Haven't you ever heard a bad cover of a classic song on the radio and thought, "Except for these no-talent bastards, I'd be listening to the original right now."? I don't need a remake, or a cover, or an homage, or whatever the hell you want to call it. If it preempts one showing of the classic, then we're the worse off for it.
Among the problems they were claiming was that they could not yet be easily and cheaply mass produced, and that it still hasn't achieved its promised 40+ GB of storage outside of the lab.
A single-layer blue ray disc can fit 23-27GB. A dual-layer disc will be able to hold 46-54GB.
If they burned a single-layer disc, then this doesn't disprove anything, and if it's dual-layer, they should do a print run of a several thousand. This was just a stunt to try to change public perception. Good luck with that, Sony.
I just can't stand stupid analogies.
Then why do you make them? If every home in the country is being broken into, then your problem really isn't the hypothetical screwdriver. You wouldn't have that kind of a crime wave if people all left their doors unlocked.
The thing is, an analogy by itself is pretty weak. It's better to make your point first and use the analogy as support, because otherwise some dork always thinks he has a better one.
I've used fastmail for a while now, but the spam is keeping me away these days. If only I could filter cyrillic characters, I could get rid of most of it. Since, I can't conquer that, I really don't have the energy to fight the viagra/cialis/enlargement triumvirate.