I'm cautiously optimistic that Nehalem-EX will be a decent server processor, at least in the 1-2 socket segment. It seems to handle multithreading quite well, and have decent FP performance.
For now, though, the 6-core Opteron is king.
No, this only applies to the Hyper-V component of Server 2008 R2. Normal people do not use Windows Server for "home use/gaming purposes" (cue a dozen replies of people talking about how cool they are because they use pirated copies for said purpose), so its not a big deal. Also, Core i5/i7 is already a Quad Core, I assume you mean Core 2 Quad.
What? The government of China told Opera to change things? That's strange, I would have thought the democratic government in Taipei would do better than that.
At least Fedora hasn't suddenly dropped PowerPC with no announcement like OpenSUSE did, but sadly, there's still no new builds of the SPARC and Itanium versions of Fedora. I wonder if they're intentionally trying to drive people to RHEL on these platforms.
Why? Its irrelevant anyway, the only way the ROC can win a military conflict with the PRC is to launch a preemptive attack on the Communist SRBM facilities. If every airfield and military harbor on the island is hit by SRBM's (there are over a thousand sitting there) it becomes a lot harder to muster an effective resistance.
I would love to see somebody tell me what's wrong with X without referencing the UNIX Haters Handbook or anything else more than ten years old. I've been using it for a LONG time, in various proprietary and open-source incarnations, and it's come a long way. Xorg generally even works without an xorg.conf these days, and no other windowing system comes close to X's networking/remote-access features.
HP had a hard enough time last time they tried to support multiple processor architectures simultaneously (for a while, they were selling x86, PA-RISC, Alpha, and Itanium.) I don't think they're that interested in adding Yet Another OS and Processor Combination into the mix, or they wouldn't have axed PA-RISC and Alpha, both of which had real futures. They've implied strongly in recent times that they're committed to Itanium, and I think that's where it will stay.
I'm pretty sure x86 applications run transparently on Itanium. Or somehow Doom Legacy uses some sort of magic to run on both my Thinkpad and my ZX6000 on work, which I doubt.
Also from the Tao of Programming:
The Tao gave birth to machine language. Machine language gave birth to the assembler.
The assembler gave birth to the compiler. Now there are ten thousand languages.
Each language has its purpose, however humble. Each language expresses the Yin and Yang of software. Each language has its place within the Tao.
But do not program in COBOL if you can avoid it.
Sorry, but you're spreading FUD. You can write a GUI in Mono without Windows Forms, and its generally even a good idea anyway since WinForms on anything but Windows looks and works horrible. On Linux its generally done with GTK#.
"different than any porn site out there?" Wikipedia tells me that one of the porno videos involved in this case was about a teenage girl being raped by an older man. Its not really an underage girl and not really rape, of course, but this is hardly just normal porn. While I don't necessarily agree with the ruling in this case, there's no doubt that this was unusually extreme content.
I was actually just throwing that in as an alternative. At my company, we use Itanic for machines in our compiler farm, running the Intel C Compiler. It gets excellent performance for this purpose; it does quite well on moderately parallel tasks and okay for floating point. I can't speak for how well it does for anything web-facing though. Out of the four I mentioned (POWER6, SPARC T1/T2, SPARC VIIIFX), its probably the worst-suited for this specific type of task.
Of course, anything beats the shit that is x86.
Let's see...
IBM,
Sun,
Fujitsu,
Itanium (yeah, its still Intel, but has great performance)...
All of these can offer equivalent or much better performance at these kinds of applications than what they're using. Don't bitch if you're not willing to consider the alternatives.
I'm cautiously optimistic that Nehalem-EX will be a decent server processor, at least in the 1-2 socket segment. It seems to handle multithreading quite well, and have decent FP performance. For now, though, the 6-core Opteron is king.
No, this only applies to the Hyper-V component of Server 2008 R2. Normal people do not use Windows Server for "home use/gaming purposes" (cue a dozen replies of people talking about how cool they are because they use pirated copies for said purpose), so its not a big deal. Also, Core i5/i7 is already a Quad Core, I assume you mean Core 2 Quad.
The PRC "government" aren't dictators, they're criminals. The legitimate government of China does not behave that way.
What? The government of China told Opera to change things? That's strange, I would have thought the democratic government in Taipei would do better than that.
The highly advanced 8-core system I'm using now can't run it. Unless they've brought back IE support for Solaris/SPARC.
Red Hat evidently cares enough about Itanium to continue developing RHEL for it.
At least Fedora hasn't suddenly dropped PowerPC with no announcement like OpenSUSE did, but sadly, there's still no new builds of the SPARC and Itanium versions of Fedora. I wonder if they're intentionally trying to drive people to RHEL on these platforms.
Why? Its irrelevant anyway, the only way the ROC can win a military conflict with the PRC is to launch a preemptive attack on the Communist SRBM facilities. If every airfield and military harbor on the island is hit by SRBM's (there are over a thousand sitting there) it becomes a lot harder to muster an effective resistance.
Its not a PC, its a workstation. How many home users are going to shell out $8k for a base configuration?
This just in: Dual-socket workstations are cheaper than high-end desktop blade enclosures with up to 960GB RAM. Who knew?
They're saying its 128 threads per chip, not eight, and at 40nm. Are you illiterate?
Actually, I believe its QNX, not Linux.
I would love to see somebody tell me what's wrong with X without referencing the UNIX Haters Handbook or anything else more than ten years old. I've been using it for a LONG time, in various proprietary and open-source incarnations, and it's come a long way. Xorg generally even works without an xorg.conf these days, and no other windowing system comes close to X's networking/remote-access features.
Wrong. They sold Alpha's IP to Intel early in the IA64 days, maybe PA-RISC's as well.
HP had a hard enough time last time they tried to support multiple processor architectures simultaneously (for a while, they were selling x86, PA-RISC, Alpha, and Itanium.) I don't think they're that interested in adding Yet Another OS and Processor Combination into the mix, or they wouldn't have axed PA-RISC and Alpha, both of which had real futures. They've implied strongly in recent times that they're committed to Itanium, and I think that's where it will stay.
It went pretty well. NT for Alpha kicked ass.
I'm pretty sure x86 applications run transparently on Itanium. Or somehow Doom Legacy uses some sort of magic to run on both my Thinkpad and my ZX6000 on work, which I doubt.
Nowhere does it say the machines were x86. It could very well have been SPARC to IA64, especially since they're doing heavy transaction-processing.
Also from the Tao of Programming: The Tao gave birth to machine language. Machine language gave birth to the assembler. The assembler gave birth to the compiler. Now there are ten thousand languages. Each language has its purpose, however humble. Each language expresses the Yin and Yang of software. Each language has its place within the Tao. But do not program in COBOL if you can avoid it.
Sorry, but you're spreading FUD. You can write a GUI in Mono without Windows Forms, and its generally even a good idea anyway since WinForms on anything but Windows looks and works horrible. On Linux its generally done with GTK#.
"different than any porn site out there?" Wikipedia tells me that one of the porno videos involved in this case was about a teenage girl being raped by an older man. Its not really an underage girl and not really rape, of course, but this is hardly just normal porn. While I don't necessarily agree with the ruling in this case, there's no doubt that this was unusually extreme content.
I don't know what currency you're talking about, but the only single-core POWER 520 available is $5576US. Its still overpriced IMHO, but not nearly as much as you're saying. http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/520/browse_aix.html
POWER6 absolutely ass-rapes Nehalem. Period. 4.7GHz (clocked up to 6GHz internally), faster per-cycle than any x86 processor currently on the market.
I was actually just throwing that in as an alternative. At my company, we use Itanic for machines in our compiler farm, running the Intel C Compiler. It gets excellent performance for this purpose; it does quite well on moderately parallel tasks and okay for floating point. I can't speak for how well it does for anything web-facing though. Out of the four I mentioned (POWER6, SPARC T1/T2, SPARC VIIIFX), its probably the worst-suited for this specific type of task. Of course, anything beats the shit that is x86.
Let's see... IBM, Sun, Fujitsu, Itanium (yeah, its still Intel, but has great performance)... All of these can offer equivalent or much better performance at these kinds of applications than what they're using. Don't bitch if you're not willing to consider the alternatives.