what advantage does this technology hold over trains?
Just traveled on this one last week in Rio. Pretty amazing. Advantages and disadvantages over trains though. Can travel over irregular terrain, water, up/down mountains, no rails/roadways to build, so no interference on the ground is needed, no wheels, suspension, power train to carry, quite efficient. Electric power only to the stations. So for short distances and moderate cargo it's great, like moving people and light cargo between buildings all over a business area perhaps. For cargo perhaps pneumatic is better in some cases though, it can make curves and go faster I think. However you can't span huge distances without multiple stations and relaying, or achieve the unbeatable speed and cargo capacity of trains. Trains can be over a mile long and their top speeds are continually increasing.
The day 90 percent of the one billion muslims become radicalized, the rest of the world better just convert and shut up, no way to control 900 million people who are completely dedicated to a cause and have no fear. The truth is that there are about as many radicals in any religion I think, which is generally quite few. The rest is western oil interests, military interest fearmonging, basically political propaganda. Worked well to get guaranteed cheap oil for quite a while.
I too have been waiting to see what will come up, ever since they cut it off. But honestly I nowadays feel very consored in the regular Net already. There's a huge battle going on internationally to control and censor the net using all sorts of ways. Defamation, copyright, lawsuits, police needs, and regular commercial interests are slowly steadily increasing the vigilance and liable actions and content. IP number logging has become the universal ID that is recorded at every doorway automatically. And a totally decentralized network, with no servers or cables run be corporations, is the only way I see out.
I used to consider businesses, and therefore Exchange, were the most important target public for launching Linux adoption numbers. Nowadays I think it's the average teenage/entertainment user, and therefore, msn/IM clients, games, p2p apps, media players, and the browser. Basically all they use. Yes Linux does all that, but some details of the apps, or their installation, can't be figured out by these impatient users. What I know for sure is they buy computers with Linux preinstalled, and, without even knowing what is different, start asking why they can't install X game, the "other" msn, and how to "fix" it, because it's "broken". I just interpret they haven't been able to get those basic apps going for them, they havent found a "gamesmsnp2pandbrowserwizard". It's not working, so it's broken. And when it's "working", they normally do manage to get those going. "Working" of course means their familiar environment and way of downloading and installing is there.
The RIAA and MPAA are basically censorship organizations. Copyright law is basically a form of censorship. Any restriction on copying and distribution of information basically is a form of censoring, with a legal support. The "uncensorable" internet, that we thought routed around all censorship, doesn't. It's immensely censorable. Any company with any copyright, plus any of the terrible and violent things that happen all over society, become reason for internet censorship. Plus, states that just outright censor, can do it easily. I remember discussing this back in the early 90's, that the internet, for all its potential, could in practice be censored, controlled, and inspected, as all the connections are centralized. What we need are p2p web servers, that are hosted off everyone's machines, serverless. Routing built into our connectivity solution. Wiring and wireless from neighbor to neighbor. An entirely different connectivity infrastructure. Hell, we're going back to the days of AOL with facebook and the like, where censorship becomes just corporate policies, with complete impunity. If you want to take freedom to the ultimate consequence, people have the right to sit at a bar or cafe or street corner, and talk about whatever they want. If they talk about illegal things, they can still talk about it. On the Internet however, conversation of illegal activity is grounds for censorship. And that opens the door wide open to all kinds of censorship. There are dozens of things you may not say on the net, because it's censored in this, that or the other way - it's all controlled. I have a lawsuit for thousands, for defamation, because someone used my connection to curse out their boss. Defamation, yet another law for censoring. There are dozens of reason to censor, and we just don't do anything about it, keep repeating the mantra "the internet routes around censorship". Well, maybe it can, but it's not doing it very well.
If the USA didn't support any regime that murders and tortures its own people it would have very few relations to other countries. It's all a matter of proportion. Egypt is less brutal than other countries in that region, they have a relatively moderate stance regarding international relations, they try not to let Muslim radicals do too much harm.
Don't get me wrong, I think Mubarak should step down, but Obama is right in taking a cautious approach to that crisis.
So, you support democracy, so long as the results of the elections don't displease you, right? Is that exactly what you're saying?
As far as the prevailing US political-corporation merged monsters in power since forever, the prevailing policy is money. Money in the middle east means oil, means lining up cooperating governments to sell it cheap and consistently, means dominating or buying out the main military powers, egypt and israel. None of that is not what any democracy protecting their own country, resources and interests would want. They would sell it for the highest possible price, try to get military friends to defent them and their interessts, and would be playing the game in such a way as to drive prices up. For the US "national interests" that means supporting dictators that never leave, consistently cooperate, and sell the oil, cheap, in exchange for getting a fat illegal profit for themselves, personally, and little or almost nothing for the country. And as all international oil business is in dollars, it helps establish the dollar as a international currency, allowing the US to basically print as many dollars as it wants and export them, and some other stuff I dont quite understand.
Hey - doesn't anyone want to talk about about the fact that the good old US of A is supporting a brutal regime that murders and tortures its own people? What happened to freedom and all that stuff?
If America doesn't really care about these things then it makes you wonder what's going on when they intervene to 'bring democracy' to countries around the world?
Please tell me that the U.S.A. hasn't turned into a force for evil in the world?
Wake up. Freedom and all that stuff have always been ok so long as they dont interfere with "national interests", basically meaning strategic military spots, fights with whatever the local enemies that have built up are, business interests, a few "allies" and friends interests, and whatever the order of the day is. So freedom and all that exists, sure, and it's always "number one", sure, so long as none or all the other number ones don't come up as a priority "in this isolated case". In the "isolated case" of egypt, many in Washington, and Israel, are strongly against democracy. They are afraid democracy would elect someone unfriendly to them, and that's just not the "democratic" result they desire. As if that were democracy at all. You don't choose who runs or who wins in real democracy. Most countries, US included, don't even have real democracy, it's intensely stage-managed, not too unlike "reality show" nonsense. Just try saying you want to set up another political party in the US, or even saying that you don't agree with any of the existing ones, and see the response you get. People look at you like you're from outer space, just for saying a new political party is needed.
I think the isp finder still exists in XP. If not mistaken as an option in some new connection wizard or something. Havent looked in a long time, but I suppose phone books and companies still offer dialup service, in many places, so you can just call and for the number, sign up, etc. Like back in dialup times.
As far as I'm concerned, on day 11 they should have gotten a court warrant and just taken all the records, there is no reason to give anyone any extension of a legal obligation, especially not from 10 days amost 1000. The law is not supposed to be malleable to your schemes.
Actually I'm surprised Sarah used a public e-mail account while the Gov of Alaska...I would have thought she would have subscribed to the George W. Bush school of...wait did Bush go to school?
There were mentions that much of the govt business was indeed being done over private email accounts. And now all this scrubbing is just pointing more towards apparent destroying evidence of wrongdoing. Which is now even worse.
Hacktivism has plenty merit in my book, but when up against a government it's quite a challenge. The uncensorable internet is extremely censorable. Copyrights, defamation, trademarks, lawsuits, arrests, and all kinds of stuff are each day more easily used to censor more and more. Egypt and a bunch of other nations, and wikileaks have been examples in the media, but there are lots of other ways everyone is just bottom line censored. There are legal and civil details and complexities of course, but bottom line, a lot of things just amount to censorship, in the end.
It's pretty hard to make your connections anonymous the whole time. Tor is mighty slow and blocked in many sites. I'm not sure which of the other options are very reliable. Open wifi is not always available. And if it's your neighbor's, well, that's pretty close to you.
Oh they're not worried about angry people. They're more worried about what you'll do. Friday is the weekend in Egypt and is supposed to be their big day of protests. They hope that by cutting off the internet, people won't be able to know where to meet up for the rallies and demonstrations, and people won't be able to share videos of the protests.
They're obviously not US trained in people-pacifying. If they were, they'd know to redirect connections to one-way-communications entertainment sites with Disney games, gambling and porn.
Indeed. Normally civilians and protests are dealt with by police, not military, trained to deal with unarmed civilians, exacly because the military is not trained for that, they at trained for strongly armed confrontation, basically for killing, not repressing. But this being a dictatorship that is defending itself, they would easily go way overboard, and put military on the streets.
Detecting that there is a trasmission that is TV is one thing, but there's no telling that they would actually be able to decode the television signals and see or hear the content. Don't know that it will be that easy to reverse-engineer a tv transmission without having or even knowing what a TV is.
Do tell, I pray thee, what the difference between a Monarchy and dynastic control of a purported Republic is? Or do you not consider two Bushes - with a third undoubtedly on the way eventually, and nearly two Clintons, to be a problem?
The only difference between a Monarchy and a Republic is there are less bullshit political ads on television.
Agreed it's basically a formal democracy, or meritocracy, or something like that - and not a real democracy. The government is bad. The press doesn't inform well. Corporations run a mindgame on the public and representatives play theater. People also have their share in the problem, they don't inform themselves, participate, complain and organize enough.
Bush is now gone for two years, there is someone else there now. Full real and open democracy it's not, but there is much more openness than there was before. Much of the establishment however continues as before. Without public participation, the best government in the world would become detached and cut off from reality. Life is like that, it's hard everywhere, there are only two ways -- either participation or apathy and cynicism. Each person is always free to choose which. Participation is tough, dirty, tricky and 99% pitfalls, and apathy and cynicism are easy, comfortable and pathetic. There is only one other choice - death.
So it's generally best to pick a flag to fly and watch that's it's not a pitfall, and when it becomes obvious that it is, change your flag.
Plenty of slavery in the US too. I met several. If you don't know about it, that's because human rights and the much-touted free press doesn't really work.
I was thinking the same. Cutting off everyone's communications is just going to get them more pissed off. And now they can't even stay home and read about the protest, they have to go and... participate!
The most common elections often have poor choices and people who aren't educated or organized voting. It would be a rather common election. Still, it's an election.
You can dial out of the country with it. It will be expensive, but you will get internet access. Assuming, of course, the nice Egyptian government hasn't cut off telephone access too, wihch some are saying they are planning to.
littlebytesnews RT @RES911CUE: RT @LTLV613 @ProducerMatthew: Just in: Source within Vodafone Egypt says it will shut off all phone and internet lines until 5pm on Friday.
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what advantage does this technology hold over trains?
Just traveled on this one last week in Rio. Pretty amazing. Advantages and disadvantages over trains though. Can travel over irregular terrain, water, up/down mountains, no rails/roadways to build, so no interference on the ground is needed, no wheels, suspension, power train to carry, quite efficient. Electric power only to the stations. So for short distances and moderate cargo it's great, like moving people and light cargo between buildings all over a business area perhaps. For cargo perhaps pneumatic is better in some cases though, it can make curves and go faster I think. However you can't span huge distances without multiple stations and relaying, or achieve the unbeatable speed and cargo capacity of trains. Trains can be over a mile long and their top speeds are continually increasing.
The day 90 percent of the one billion muslims become radicalized, the rest of the world better just convert and shut up, no way to control 900 million people who are completely dedicated to a cause and have no fear. The truth is that there are about as many radicals in any religion I think, which is generally quite few. The rest is western oil interests, military interest fearmonging, basically political propaganda. Worked well to get guaranteed cheap oil for quite a while.
http://www.open-mesh.com/
I too have been waiting to see what will come up, ever since they cut it off. But honestly I nowadays feel very consored in the regular Net already. There's a huge battle going on internationally to control and censor the net using all sorts of ways. Defamation, copyright, lawsuits, police needs, and regular commercial interests are slowly steadily increasing the vigilance and liable actions and content. IP number logging has become the universal ID that is recorded at every doorway automatically. And a totally decentralized network, with no servers or cables run be corporations, is the only way I see out.
I used to consider businesses, and therefore Exchange, were the most important target public for launching Linux adoption numbers. Nowadays I think it's the average teenage/entertainment user, and therefore, msn/IM clients, games, p2p apps, media players, and the browser. Basically all they use. Yes Linux does all that, but some details of the apps, or their installation, can't be figured out by these impatient users. What I know for sure is they buy computers with Linux preinstalled, and, without even knowing what is different, start asking why they can't install X game, the "other" msn, and how to "fix" it, because it's "broken". I just interpret they haven't been able to get those basic apps going for them, they havent found a "gamesmsnp2pandbrowserwizard". It's not working, so it's broken. And when it's "working", they normally do manage to get those going. "Working" of course means their familiar environment and way of downloading and installing is there.
The RIAA and MPAA are basically censorship organizations. Copyright law is basically a form of censorship. Any restriction on copying and distribution of information basically is a form of censoring, with a legal support. The "uncensorable" internet, that we thought routed around all censorship, doesn't. It's immensely censorable. Any company with any copyright, plus any of the terrible and violent things that happen all over society, become reason for internet censorship. Plus, states that just outright censor, can do it easily. I remember discussing this back in the early 90's, that the internet, for all its potential, could in practice be censored, controlled, and inspected, as all the connections are centralized. What we need are p2p web servers, that are hosted off everyone's machines, serverless. Routing built into our connectivity solution. Wiring and wireless from neighbor to neighbor. An entirely different connectivity infrastructure. Hell, we're going back to the days of AOL with facebook and the like, where censorship becomes just corporate policies, with complete impunity. If you want to take freedom to the ultimate consequence, people have the right to sit at a bar or cafe or street corner, and talk about whatever they want. If they talk about illegal things, they can still talk about it. On the Internet however, conversation of illegal activity is grounds for censorship. And that opens the door wide open to all kinds of censorship. There are dozens of things you may not say on the net, because it's censored in this, that or the other way - it's all controlled. I have a lawsuit for thousands, for defamation, because someone used my connection to curse out their boss. Defamation, yet another law for censoring. There are dozens of reason to censor, and we just don't do anything about it, keep repeating the mantra "the internet routes around censorship". Well, maybe it can, but it's not doing it very well.
If the USA didn't support any regime that murders and tortures its own people it would have very few relations to other countries. It's all a matter of proportion. Egypt is less brutal than other countries in that region, they have a relatively moderate stance regarding international relations, they try not to let Muslim radicals do too much harm.
Don't get me wrong, I think Mubarak should step down, but Obama is right in taking a cautious approach to that crisis.
So, you support democracy, so long as the results of the elections don't displease you, right? Is that exactly what you're saying?
As far as the prevailing US political-corporation merged monsters in power since forever, the prevailing policy is money. Money in the middle east means oil, means lining up cooperating governments to sell it cheap and consistently, means dominating or buying out the main military powers, egypt and israel. None of that is not what any democracy protecting their own country, resources and interests would want. They would sell it for the highest possible price, try to get military friends to defent them and their interessts, and would be playing the game in such a way as to drive prices up. For the US "national interests" that means supporting dictators that never leave, consistently cooperate, and sell the oil, cheap, in exchange for getting a fat illegal profit for themselves, personally, and little or almost nothing for the country. And as all international oil business is in dollars, it helps establish the dollar as a international currency, allowing the US to basically print as many dollars as it wants and export them, and some other stuff I dont quite understand.
Hey - doesn't anyone want to talk about about the fact that the good old US of A is supporting a brutal regime that murders and tortures its own people? What happened to freedom and all that stuff?
If America doesn't really care about these things then it makes you wonder what's going on when they intervene to 'bring democracy' to countries around the world?
Please tell me that the U.S.A. hasn't turned into a force for evil in the world?
Wake up. Freedom and all that stuff have always been ok so long as they dont interfere with "national interests", basically meaning strategic military spots, fights with whatever the local enemies that have built up are, business interests, a few "allies" and friends interests, and whatever the order of the day is. So freedom and all that exists, sure, and it's always "number one", sure, so long as none or all the other number ones don't come up as a priority "in this isolated case". In the "isolated case" of egypt, many in Washington, and Israel, are strongly against democracy. They are afraid democracy would elect someone unfriendly to them, and that's just not the "democratic" result they desire. As if that were democracy at all. You don't choose who runs or who wins in real democracy. Most countries, US included, don't even have real democracy, it's intensely stage-managed, not too unlike "reality show" nonsense. Just try saying you want to set up another political party in the US, or even saying that you don't agree with any of the existing ones, and see the response you get. People look at you like you're from outer space, just for saying a new political party is needed.
I think the isp finder still exists in XP. If not mistaken as an option in some new connection wizard or something. Havent looked in a long time, but I suppose phone books and companies still offer dialup service, in many places, so you can just call and for the number, sign up, etc. Like back in dialup times.
As far as I'm concerned, on day 11 they should have gotten a court warrant and just taken all the records, there is no reason to give anyone any extension of a legal obligation, especially not from 10 days amost 1000. The law is not supposed to be malleable to your schemes.
Actually I'm surprised Sarah used a public e-mail account while the Gov of Alaska...I would have thought she would have subscribed to the George W. Bush school of...wait did Bush go to school?
There were mentions that much of the govt business was indeed being done over private email accounts. And now all this scrubbing is just pointing more towards apparent destroying evidence of wrongdoing. Which is now even worse.
Hacktivism has plenty merit in my book, but when up against a government it's quite a challenge. The uncensorable internet is extremely censorable. Copyrights, defamation, trademarks, lawsuits, arrests, and all kinds of stuff are each day more easily used to censor more and more. Egypt and a bunch of other nations, and wikileaks have been examples in the media, but there are lots of other ways everyone is just bottom line censored. There are legal and civil details and complexities of course, but bottom line, a lot of things just amount to censorship, in the end.
It's pretty hard to make your connections anonymous the whole time. Tor is mighty slow and blocked in many sites. I'm not sure which of the other options are very reliable. Open wifi is not always available. And if it's your neighbor's, well, that's pretty close to you.
Oh they're not worried about angry people. They're more worried about what you'll do. Friday is the weekend in Egypt and is supposed to be their big day of protests. They hope that by cutting off the internet, people won't be able to know where to meet up for the rallies and demonstrations, and people won't be able to share videos of the protests.
They're obviously not US trained in people-pacifying. If they were, they'd know to redirect connections to one-way-communications entertainment sites with Disney games, gambling and porn.
It's generally not hard to make something NOT work.
Indeed. Normally civilians and protests are dealt with by police, not military, trained to deal with unarmed civilians, exacly because the military is not trained for that, they at trained for strongly armed confrontation, basically for killing, not repressing. But this being a dictatorship that is defending itself, they would easily go way overboard, and put military on the streets.
Detecting that there is a trasmission that is TV is one thing, but there's no telling that they would actually be able to decode the television signals and see or hear the content. Don't know that it will be that easy to reverse-engineer a tv transmission without having or even knowing what a TV is.
...And?
Do tell, I pray thee, what the difference between a Monarchy and dynastic control of a purported Republic is? Or do you not consider two Bushes - with a third undoubtedly on the way eventually, and nearly two Clintons, to be a problem?
The only difference between a Monarchy and a Republic is there are less bullshit political ads on television.
Agreed it's basically a formal democracy, or meritocracy, or something like that - and not a real democracy. The government is bad. The press doesn't inform well. Corporations run a mindgame on the public and representatives play theater. People also have their share in the problem, they don't inform themselves, participate, complain and organize enough.
Bush is now gone for two years, there is someone else there now. Full real and open democracy it's not, but there is much more openness than there was before. Much of the establishment however continues as before. Without public participation, the best government in the world would become detached and cut off from reality. Life is like that, it's hard everywhere, there are only two ways -- either participation or apathy and cynicism. Each person is always free to choose which. Participation is tough, dirty, tricky and 99% pitfalls, and apathy and cynicism are easy, comfortable and pathetic. There is only one other choice - death.
So it's generally best to pick a flag to fly and watch that's it's not a pitfall, and when it becomes obvious that it is, change your flag.
They have illegal indentured servitude.
Plenty of slavery in the US too. I met several. If you don't know about it, that's because human rights and the much-touted free press doesn't really work.
Would the government be able to triangulate position of the send/receive devices?
If not, or at least not easily, we could try to get some tech into the right hands over there...
Most likely, yes it's possible, but no they don't have time and people to do it right now.
I was thinking the same. Cutting off everyone's communications is just going to get them more pissed off. And now they can't even stay home and read about the protest, they have to go and... participate!
The most common elections often have poor choices and people who aren't educated or organized voting. It would be a rather common election. Still, it's an election.
And YES I have a POTS modem
You can dial out of the country with it. It will be expensive, but you will get internet access. Assuming, of course, the nice Egyptian government hasn't cut off telephone access too, wihch some are saying they are planning to.
littlebytesnews RT @RES911CUE: RT @LTLV613 @ProducerMatthew: Just in: Source within Vodafone Egypt says it will shut off all phone and internet lines until 5pm on Friday.
I agree. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Every newsroom has an editor. So long as you don't state that opinion is fact, all is fair.