"I don't need a government telling me I should wear a seat belt"
"But do you want a government who will make sure there's a hospital to fix your broken skull? And a government who will make sure there's quick transportation and trained EMTs?"
I want a FREE MARKET[*] that will make sure there's a hospital to fix your broken skull. And a FREE MARKET that will make sure there's affordable transportation and trained EMTs.
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"MediaDefender's Randy Saaf told Ars Technica that while the company does own the domain to MiiVi, the story itself was completely made up. "MediaDefender was working on an internal project that involved video and didn't realize that people would be trying to go to it and so we didn't password-protect the site," Saaf said."
"We may never know MediaDefender's true motive behind MiiVi, but Saaf insists that it was nothing more than an internal site for research and development purposes only."
A couple weeks later:
"
Subject: MiiVi (currently on www.viide.com)
From: grodsky@mediadefender.com
Date: 23/07/2007 18:05
To: michael.potts@artistdirect.com
Michael,
When you get a chance, we would love you to start taking a look at www.viide.com. That is the current home of our MiiVi site.
[...]
Once you log on the site, surf over to www.viide.com/download.php to get our application. The website currently acts a GUI for the application. When we go live with the site for the general public, there will also be a java applet that also minimal/one-off type use of MiiVi (but this feature is inaccessible with the current locked-down version of the site).
"
Interesting concept - a purely internal site, intended only for research and development... that was purposed to go LIVE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, complete with a DOWNLOADABLE CLIENT APPLICATION, after having been PURPOSEFULLY RE-LOCATED under a different domain with the SOLE INTENT TO OBFUSCATE MediaDefender's DIRECT CONNECTION.
Microsoft has a very sinister plan in the works, the ultimate outcome of which is victory of OOXML over ODF. It involves vampires, politics, space ships, weapons, monsters, time machines, tornados, zombies, death stars, extra dimensional ports, robots, dinosaurs, seductive girls, perfect storms, fast cars...
I find it highly suspicious and most telling that you failed to mention the use of ninjas, arguably the most effective and subtle weapon that MS currently has in its arsenal.
I, for one, wonder what else you might be holding back, and I ask my fellow slashdotter's: what, exactly, is this guy's agenda? I doubt I'm alone in detecting an obvious anti-linux tone in his post.
Additionally, it has just come to light, that despite their generally cheery persona's, the poor creatures in fact often suffer from long bouts of depression.
"They're a business and they have an obligation to make money by selling their products, not just giving them away."
And I suppose you think that Ford just gives its products away.
Ford needs to begin selling restrictive vehicle licenses instead of actual vehicle property.
That way Ford, and morons like yourself, can tell consumers at large that they can't reasonably expect to install their own personal selection of hardware and modifications into the cars they've purchased, because, "...it's Ford's car - not yours."
The pro-Apple's rights people are ignoring your very valid (and well put) point that your property should be yours to do with as you wish. The pro-consumer's rights people are ignoring the fact that most of the people using this information do not have valid licenses or ownership of the operating system.
Well said.
People should stop supporting piracy, and start supporting Free Software.
It's immoral when you buy a product agreeing to certain conditions, then decide you don't like them so ignore them.
They can't tell you what to do with your property. You buy it. It's yours now. Whether you break it, hang it up as a decoration in your rearview mirror, use it as a non-functioning whoopie-cushion, or whatever - it's your choice not theirs.
Copying it and then redistributing it, in other words, stealing, is a whole different matter.
But to expect a company to sell you a product, and then be lawfully able to dictate to you exactly how you use it, is absurd.
Of course they can make it as difficult as possible to do the things they don't want you to do: such as purposefully crippling the software on the disk you bought so that it will not work on un-official hardware; however, whatever "conditions" you "agree" to regarding the use of your property, post-purchase, is simply invalid -- void.
That's the whole freaking point of PROPERTY. It's YOURS.
But somehow software is exempt from these basic, age-old, rudimentary facts? For some outlandish reason, software can still have legal strings attached so that it is never really the property of the purchaser, but rather, for evermore, the property of the seller?
The law may make it so, but the law doesn't make it right. It's just another layer of abstraction that deprives non-corporate bodies ( i.e., natural persons ) of rights, while handing over more and more control and artificially created priviledges and rights to the corporations.
So I hear you say: "Well don't buy the product if you don't agree to the terms".
B.S.
The "terms" are that I pay the money. There are no legitimate "terms" beyond that.
"Sometimes I think that many people here long for an aristocracy to rule them."
Similarly, I often think that many people here seem strangely satisfied with the oligarchy that rules them now.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9e/Imfree.jpg ... Rise of the Triad, an all around awesome game by the way; And for those not already amongst the enlightened:
http://rott.classicgaming.gamespy.com/fun/
http://rott.classicgaming.gamespy.com/hell/
"I don't need a government telling me I should wear a seat belt"
"But do you want a government who will make sure there's a hospital to fix your broken skull? And a government who will make sure there's quick transportation and trained EMTs?"
I want a FREE MARKET[*] that will make sure there's a hospital to fix your broken skull. And a FREE MARKET that will make sure there's affordable transportation and trained EMTs.
Government can go to hell.
[*] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_market_anarchism
Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is Strength ...aaaaannnd according to Negroponte:
Open is Closed
From http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070706-mediadefender-denies-entrapment-accusations-with-fake-torrent-site.html
Published July 06, 2007:
"MediaDefender's Randy Saaf told Ars Technica that while the company does own the domain to MiiVi, the story itself was completely made up. "MediaDefender was working on an internal project that involved video and didn't realize that people would be trying to go to it and so we didn't password-protect the site," Saaf said."
"We may never know MediaDefender's true motive behind MiiVi, but Saaf insists that it was nothing more than an internal site for research and development purposes only."
A couple weeks later:
"
Subject: MiiVi (currently on www.viide.com)
From: grodsky@mediadefender.com
Date: 23/07/2007 18:05
To: michael.potts@artistdirect.com
Michael,
When you get a chance, we would love you to start taking a look at www.viide.com. That is the current home of our MiiVi site.
[...]
Once you log on the site, surf over to www.viide.com/download.php to get our application. The website currently acts a GUI for the application. When we go live with the site for the general public , there will also be a java applet that also minimal/one-off type use of MiiVi (but this feature is inaccessible with the current locked-down version of the site).
"
Interesting concept - a purely internal site, intended only for research and development... that was purposed to go LIVE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, complete with a DOWNLOADABLE CLIENT APPLICATION, after having been PURPOSEFULLY RE-LOCATED under a different domain with the SOLE INTENT TO OBFUSCATE MediaDefender's DIRECT CONNECTION.
I want to be a cyborg when I grow up.
... sorry, but I think what we actually ) _need_ are smart DRIVERS.
Hell, the inflatable auto-pilot from Airplane had more skill than most of the morons on the roads these days.
Microsoft has a very sinister plan in the works, the ultimate outcome of which is victory of OOXML over ODF. It involves vampires, politics, space ships, weapons, monsters, time machines, tornados, zombies, death stars, extra dimensional ports, robots, dinosaurs, seductive girls, perfect storms, fast cars...
I find it highly suspicious and most telling that you failed to mention the use of ninjas, arguably the most effective and subtle weapon that MS currently has in its arsenal.
I, for one, wonder what else you might be holding back, and I ask my fellow slashdotter's: what, exactly, is this guy's agenda? I doubt I'm alone in detecting an obvious anti-linux tone in his post.
I, for one, have a passion for Microsoft.
A passionate HATRED! HAHAHA
Additionally, it has just come to light, that despite their generally cheery persona's, the poor creatures in fact often suffer from long bouts of depression.
A sidebar in the article includes a nice illustration of what two-color vs. three-color mice might perceive.
... thus explaining why mice show no outward tendencies towards jealousy or violence, and behave in a highly cautious manner at all times.
I wonder if they've considered a beowulf cluster of those things?
"...they all invited the U.S. government to play a bigger role, while being vague about what the role should be."
Feed the monster.
We're obviously going to need to declare war on Canada. This aggression will not stand.
Piracy is IP Terrorism.
From the words of Proudhon [1809-1865], original self-described anarchist:
Liberty: Not the Daughter but the Mother of Order.
The word anarchy is too often misused in place of the word anomie, or chaos.
And I suppose you think that Ford just gives its products away.
Ford needs to begin selling restrictive vehicle licenses instead of actual vehicle property.
That way Ford, and morons like yourself, can tell consumers at large that they can't reasonably expect to install their own personal selection of hardware and modifications into the cars they've purchased, because, "...it's Ford's car - not yours."
Why would YOU want THEIR property on YOUR computer?
Why would YOU want to PAY for a mere "license" that RESTRICTS what you do with YOUR PROPERTY?
You're talking interests.
Apple is a corporation, an abstraction, which has its own interests.
People are consumers, another abstraction, who have their own interests.
Corporations' interests are in conflict with consumers' interests.
If it is ok for Apple to pursue its interests, then it is ok for consumers to pursue their interests.
So stop with the apologetic, apathetic, disempowering platitudes.
Warning: That question makes the assumption that "election integrity" actually even exists at all in the first place.
"Most viruses are RNA coated with proteins."
Sounds tasty!
(glad I'm not a vegetarian)
And a virus is a meme.
Therefore life is a meme.
Would a meme, by any other name, not be as pointless?
"But in America the judicial branch of government [snip] is not the same as the executive branch"
They both work for the same Federal Government, you poor ignorant peasant.
"[snip] and they are often at odds with each other in their competition for power ."
Truly, how comforting.
"Seriously, take a civics class."
No really, take a "wake up and smell the actual reality" class.
Start here.
Well said.
People should stop supporting piracy, and start supporting Free Software.
Refer to my other post on the matter.
Right... so you buy and own the media ( i.e., the lousy worthless disk(s) ) - but you license the actual software.
So thereby, lawfully, you are restricted to the terms of the license.
So what to do?
#1: Use and support Free Software.
#2: Cease purchasing restrictive software licenses.
The FSF are on the right track, and I'm extremely thankfull that such alternatives exist.
They can't tell you what to do with your property. You buy it. It's yours now. Whether you break it, hang it up as a decoration in your rearview mirror, use it as a non-functioning whoopie-cushion, or whatever - it's your choice not theirs.
Copying it and then redistributing it, in other words, stealing, is a whole different matter.
But to expect a company to sell you a product, and then be lawfully able to dictate to you exactly how you use it, is absurd.
Of course they can make it as difficult as possible to do the things they don't want you to do: such as purposefully crippling the software on the disk you bought so that it will not work on un-official hardware; however, whatever "conditions" you "agree" to regarding the use of your property, post-purchase, is simply invalid -- void.
That's the whole freaking point of PROPERTY. It's YOURS.
But somehow software is exempt from these basic, age-old, rudimentary facts? For some outlandish reason, software can still have legal strings attached so that it is never really the property of the purchaser, but rather, for evermore, the property of the seller?
The law may make it so, but the law doesn't make it right. It's just another layer of abstraction that deprives non-corporate bodies ( i.e., natural persons ) of rights, while handing over more and more control and artificially created priviledges and rights to the corporations.
So I hear you say: "Well don't buy the product if you don't agree to the terms".
B.S.
The "terms" are that I pay the money. There are no legitimate "terms" beyond that.