Your DeWalt drill doesn't cause problems for other people if it breaks.
i think the article said that they would fix security issues. i think that's been repeated about 20x in other posts... so what the heck are you talking about? if you are choosing to not believe the article, then there's not a lot of point in discussing this with you.
if you put out a broken product, you have an obligation (IMHO) to put out a fix.
MSFT sees software piracy as stealing. and the law agrees. fine, you picked apart some guy's analogy... but the bottom line is that you are suggesting that MSFT fix products that were essentially stolen from them. and again, THEY ARE going to fix security problems, so their not fixing will not harm anyone but the owner of the pirated copy.
yeah, it sucks if i thought i was buying an authentic copy of the software... but it's unrealistic to think that MSFT should simply let it slide in that case. it does nothing to solve the problem they are trying to fix for themselves. they are trying to stop people from using pirated copies of windows. if they allow people to register at windows update with pirated copies, as long as they state "hey! i didn't know!" it isn't going to change anything for them.
if i have to explain to you the difference between having a half-eaten pringles can laying around the house, and having one wired to your laptop, can i really expect you to get it?
Steak knives? They're freaking designed to efficiently cut flesh!!
fyi, you can't carry a steak knife or any other knife (over like 5cm or something) around with you in public, it's considered a concealed weapon, and it's illegal. you'd also have a spot of trouble if you attempted to carry a chainsaw around in public, but i don't know what exact law you'd be breaking. you're making my point quite well.
first, i don't think these two things are related. it's not like the sun execs sat down and said "okay we can either open source java or open source or app server, what should we do?"
second, competition is good. even if you think app servers are a commodity. why don't you apply your "there already is one of those, we don't need another" logic to the entire economy? hey hondas are good cars, right? what is the point of making any other type of car?
if you think that one application server is as good as another, that they are a commodity, that just illustrates tht you haven't worked with more than one of them. they are all j2ee containers, sure, but configuration is different, administration is different, HA options are different, scalability + performance are different.
Web solutions allow the data holder to centralize the data, update it more often and fix issues faster
in the age of auto-updating software, this is not so much a problem. but yes, with the web, you essentially update everyone immediately. i guess it boils down to whether the benefits of running a client side application outweigh this.
also, a client side (non-web) solution can charge users for map and software updates. maybe even a subscription service.
i can make the same argument for assault weapons. hey, i'm not going to gun down a bus full of nuns, i should be able to own one, right? heck i bet a large % of the people that might (or do) own assault weapons won't be gunning down nuns.
if the device is primarily used for illegal activity, or if the illegal activity perpetrated by it is severely damaging (sure, that's arbitrary to some degree), then it is in the best interest in society to prohibit the device. you can make your "hey i can think of SOME valid use for it" arguments till the cows come home, without avail. i can make that argument for many terrible devices and practices. it doesn't work that way.
i get what you mean about principles, but maybe you should pick your battles. you're not going to find a lot of people getting fired up about losing the right to build and own cantennas.
here's an easy solution: turn on some sort of wireless security. every wireless device i've ever configured has defaulted to security on. maybe there should not be an "open" mode at all on these devices, or at the very least, it should be hard to find.
if a business is operating on an insecure wireless network, that is pure negligence on their part, and they should be held accountable for the ramifications of doing so.
sorry, you are not and individual, you are part of a society. that means if some large % of the population that owns such devices is using them for illegal activities, don't expect law enforcement to give you the personal touch and take the time to understand your law-abiding uses for the thing. the old "hey! i can think of some legal way to use this" doesn't work.
to be realistic, no one is going to bash down your door looking for cantennas. just like no one is going to bash down your door for using bitorrent to download a linux dist. on the other hand, if you are found driving around at night in an urban area pointing a laptop-connected cantenna at places of business, well...
Now microsoft providing a way to setup NTP without editing the registry
they've had that ever since XP. is that three years now? you have to click a checkbox to turn it on. it couldn't be simpler. you're talking about win 2k, which is eol'd i believe.
If you don't know any coders who work 9-5 and don't care what they're writing as long as they get paid, you must not know many coders. OTOH, you won't find many of those working on open-source projects in their spare time.
sorry? are you implying that 1) developers that keep 9-5 hours are slackers, and 2) not working on open source projects in spare time implies something negative about by dedication or skills?
first, if you take the time to read any modern software development methodology, they explicitly state that long hours are actually detrimental because that's when you start introducing bugs. if you've actually worked in software dev, you know that there are people that work 10 hours and just make things worse, and some that work 2 hours and accomplish miracles.
second, you don't find me working on OSS in my spare time because i am not dedicated or because i don't have the skills, it's because i already spent 8+ hours coding, and it's not my style to neglect my health, my partner, or my son for the sake of OSS. i love software development, but after 8+ hours, i've had enough. and sorry, for those of us that work for a living, we don't have the option of quiting our for pay jobs to work on OSS all day.
third, while there is some good OSS software, there is also a lot of CRAP. you just don't hear about the crap. why? because if it's free, people tend to not be too upset when it is crap. the ridiculous underlying assumption that most or all OSS software is of superior quality to for-pay software is simply wrong.
As for me, I was a developer, so I should know what I'm talking about
okay, you have an opinion, but please don't attempt to make blanket stmts about working software developers because you have run ins with a few crappy engineers and poorly managed projects, companies.
am am a developer (as opposed to was), and i and my colleagues take pride in and ownership for the code we write. our mgmt actually listens to us, and in general, engineers have a lot of say in what goes out the door.
I'm quite sure Microsoft developers aren't told to take the time to do things right
i know you're looking for mod points, but don't you think you've speculated enough for today?
the open-source approach, meaning the pride developers take in making good (or at least decent) code
are you implying that for-profit developers don't take pride in their code? that sure isn't the case for me. as for you, i'd advise you state your views on your resume. employers will probably want to know about that.
almost any ad I've ever watched hardly makes me want anything (except sex, which seems to be the cardinal rule of good advertising - lots of sex appeal)
if that's true, then you are an anomaly. advertisers don't spend BILLIONS+ on advertising for no freaking reason. it works.
seems like you assume that better technology means better quality of life? for many, many people their quality of life would be worse if they had DSL, cable, because they'd have to pay extra for it, and have less disposable income for other things.
"get with the times" is not a reason in itself. we cling to old technology because the benefit of the new technology does not outweigh the cost. i have an HD-ready TV. but i don't want to pay the extra $5 a month my cable company wants for the HD ready box. this stuff is never free. it's end endless cycle of producers convincing us to pay more for our services because of some piddling little improvement.
if producers want us to adopt their new technology, they should subsidize the cost of doing so. that is the producers subsidizing it, not the governement, via our taxes. if adopting a new technology is advantagous to the producers, they should foot the bill.
it's not that they don't have competition, it's that they use monopolistic practices (which are illegal) in the market to harm their competition, giving themselves an unfair advantage. "monopoly" doesn't mean there is no competition.
solaris runs gnome (duh). the desktop looks exactly like a linux desktop; the sunray desktop interface is indistinguishable from solaris. the user will never know the difference. so please explain, why is there a cost of making everyone move to solaris?
if you're talking about the team of admins that run the solaris sunray server, well, that's unix. it's no harder to admin a solaris server than a linux. probably, quite the opposite, but that's not important to the point.
Charges about as much as a low-end PC for the SunRay thin client... Charges about as much as a mid-range business PC for the SunRay thin client if you want little frills like, y'know, a monitor
so what is your point? sunray does not compete with these machines. it fills a vast and significant hole: zero administration workstations. there are no patches to install, no OS to upgrade, no software to install, no local data storage to lose if the disk crashes. all of this is centralized on a server.
More or less requires the use of Solaris to use Sunray... but which, seriously, is not something many people would want to use as a desktop OS.
uhhh, why? solaris 10 runs openoffice (staroffice), firefox, thunderbird, gaim, and most other major open source apps. that covers 99% of the typical desktop users. and if that isn't enough, it also runs linux binaries. why don't you name me something that you'd run on linux that you can't run on solaris 10, that your average desktop user would have an interest in?
refused to give up their hold on proprietary high-end hardware, and have fallen hard. Now that the hardware market has become commoditized, with throw-away PCs, there's really no need for companies like SGI, Sun, etc
not really sure how the author defines a "hacker", but yes i agree with the observation.
it's fairly obvious from my experience that the poor grammar + spelling comes from english being a second language for them. it's not really surprising that they might have trouble communicating in english, non-verbally, on highly complex technical topics.
the question i have is why employers don't consider this, when hiring. for a large number of my colleagues, attempting a technical email conversation leaves me scratching my head.
friend, you are rambling. don't fall into the trap of thinking that if you type a lot of crap you are going to win an argument. i read 1/2 way through your post and came to the conclusion that you were either talking to someone else, responding to another topic, or were drunk. this isn't nearly as complicated as you are making it.
my only point is that you are wrong when you said the opposite situation would also be a troll. posts about windows warrant hundreds on "use linux" responses. those responses are mod'd up, not down, and are certainly not considered trolls or flamebaits. if you agree with this, then fine. if not, there are megabytes of posts on here to prove you wrong.
ANY FEED BACK FROM A QUESTION ABOUT HOW TO USE LINUX THAT SAYS TO USE WINDOWS INSTEAD IS A TROLL. The same is the other way around to.
as far as how it works on/., you are simply wrong and to say anything else so so ridiculous i won't even both disputing it. any post related to windows warrants hundreds of "windoze sux! use linux!" posts, and yes, these get mod'd up no matter how inane they are.
this might come as a shock, but outside of your little/. world, people care about getting the job done not about any sort of petty childish OS rivaly. but hey, that attitude is not allowed here right? it's all about picking a side, and making sure it's the right side.
okay, so by that logic, any feedback to an article here on/. that is explicitly about windows yet mentions linux should also be a troll right? the only point here is that i might be off topic. trying to apply anything else to this is sheer hypocrisy. any post about windows gathers feedback, 90% of which start with "... if you used Linux, then...".
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I'm a physician and am looking to buy a PDA to make my life a lot easier.
the problem is the whole attitude of this site. so i suggested a more productive alternative, that happens to include windows and that's a troll? maybe off topic. but not a troll. if you think mentioning windows is a troll or flamebait, that's really something you should go talk to your therapist about. good luck with that.
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i think the article said that they would fix security issues. i think that's been repeated about 20x in other posts ... so what the heck are you talking about? if you are choosing to not believe the article, then there's not a lot of point in discussing this with you.
if you put out a broken product, you have an obligation (IMHO) to put out a fix.
MSFT sees software piracy as stealing. and the law agrees. fine, you picked apart some guy's analogy ... but the bottom line is that you are suggesting that MSFT fix products that were essentially stolen from them. and again, THEY ARE going to fix security problems, so their not fixing will not harm anyone but the owner of the pirated copy.
yeah, it sucks if i thought i was buying an authentic copy of the software ... but it's unrealistic to think that MSFT should simply let it slide in that case. it does nothing to solve the problem they are trying to fix for themselves. they are trying to stop people from using pirated copies of windows. if they allow people to register at windows update with pirated copies, as long as they state "hey! i didn't know!" it isn't going to change anything for them.
Steak knives? They're freaking designed to efficiently cut flesh!!
fyi, you can't carry a steak knife or any other knife (over like 5cm or something) around with you in public, it's considered a concealed weapon, and it's illegal. you'd also have a spot of trouble if you attempted to carry a chainsaw around in public, but i don't know what exact law you'd be breaking. you're making my point quite well.
enough said.
second, competition is good. even if you think app servers are a commodity. why don't you apply your "there already is one of those, we don't need another" logic to the entire economy? hey hondas are good cars, right? what is the point of making any other type of car?
if you think that one application server is as good as another, that they are a commodity, that just illustrates tht you haven't worked with more than one of them. they are all j2ee containers, sure, but configuration is different, administration is different, HA options are different, scalability + performance are different.
in the age of auto-updating software, this is not so much a problem. but yes, with the web, you essentially update everyone immediately. i guess it boils down to whether the benefits of running a client side application outweigh this.
also, a client side (non-web) solution can charge users for map and software updates. maybe even a subscription service.
if the device is primarily used for illegal activity, or if the illegal activity perpetrated by it is severely damaging (sure, that's arbitrary to some degree), then it is in the best interest in society to prohibit the device. you can make your "hey i can think of SOME valid use for it" arguments till the cows come home, without avail. i can make that argument for many terrible devices and practices. it doesn't work that way.
i get what you mean about principles, but maybe you should pick your battles. you're not going to find a lot of people getting fired up about losing the right to build and own cantennas.
if a business is operating on an insecure wireless network, that is pure negligence on their part, and they should be held accountable for the ramifications of doing so.
to be realistic, no one is going to bash down your door looking for cantennas. just like no one is going to bash down your door for using bitorrent to download a linux dist. on the other hand, if you are found driving around at night in an urban area pointing a laptop-connected cantenna at places of business, well ...
i said XP. XP. again, that's XP (ex-pee). with XP, it's one click. the article you forward is about win2k3. i cannot speak for win2k3.
they've had that ever since XP. is that three years now? you have to click a checkbox to turn it on. it couldn't be simpler. you're talking about win 2k, which is eol'd i believe.
agreed.
If you don't know any coders who work 9-5 and don't care what they're writing as long as they get paid, you must not know many coders. OTOH, you won't find many of those working on open-source projects in their spare time.
sorry? are you implying that 1) developers that keep 9-5 hours are slackers, and 2) not working on open source projects in spare time implies something negative about by dedication or skills?
first, if you take the time to read any modern software development methodology, they explicitly state that long hours are actually detrimental because that's when you start introducing bugs. if you've actually worked in software dev, you know that there are people that work 10 hours and just make things worse, and some that work 2 hours and accomplish miracles.
second, you don't find me working on OSS in my spare time because i am not dedicated or because i don't have the skills, it's because i already spent 8+ hours coding, and it's not my style to neglect my health, my partner, or my son for the sake of OSS. i love software development, but after 8+ hours, i've had enough. and sorry, for those of us that work for a living, we don't have the option of quiting our for pay jobs to work on OSS all day.
third, while there is some good OSS software, there is also a lot of CRAP. you just don't hear about the crap. why? because if it's free, people tend to not be too upset when it is crap. the ridiculous underlying assumption that most or all OSS software is of superior quality to for-pay software is simply wrong.
okay, you have an opinion, but please don't attempt to make blanket stmts about working software developers because you have run ins with a few crappy engineers and poorly managed projects, companies.
am am a developer (as opposed to was), and i and my colleagues take pride in and ownership for the code we write. our mgmt actually listens to us, and in general, engineers have a lot of say in what goes out the door.
I'm quite sure Microsoft developers aren't told to take the time to do things right
i know you're looking for mod points, but don't you think you've speculated enough for today?
are you implying that for-profit developers don't take pride in their code? that sure isn't the case for me. as for you, i'd advise you state your views on your resume. employers will probably want to know about that.
if that's true, then you are an anomaly. advertisers don't spend BILLIONS+ on advertising for no freaking reason. it works.
"get with the times" is not a reason in itself. we cling to old technology because the benefit of the new technology does not outweigh the cost. i have an HD-ready TV. but i don't want to pay the extra $5 a month my cable company wants for the HD ready box. this stuff is never free. it's end endless cycle of producers convincing us to pay more for our services because of some piddling little improvement.
if producers want us to adopt their new technology, they should subsidize the cost of doing so. that is the producers subsidizing it, not the governement, via our taxes. if adopting a new technology is advantagous to the producers, they should foot the bill.
it's not that they don't have competition, it's that they use monopolistic practices (which are illegal) in the market to harm their competition, giving themselves an unfair advantage. "monopoly" doesn't mean there is no competition.
if you're talking about the team of admins that run the solaris sunray server, well, that's unix. it's no harder to admin a solaris server than a linux. probably, quite the opposite, but that's not important to the point.
so what is your point? sunray does not compete with these machines. it fills a vast and significant hole: zero administration workstations. there are no patches to install, no OS to upgrade, no software to install, no local data storage to lose if the disk crashes. all of this is centralized on a server.
More or less requires the use of Solaris to use Sunray ... but which, seriously, is not something many people would want to use as a desktop OS.
uhhh, why? solaris 10 runs openoffice (staroffice), firefox, thunderbird, gaim, and most other major open source apps. that covers 99% of the typical desktop users. and if that isn't enough, it also runs linux binaries. why don't you name me something that you'd run on linux that you can't run on solaris 10, that your average desktop user would have an interest in?
sun has had low-priced solutions for quite some time. check out: http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/ultra20/ind ex.jsp
$895 gets you an AMD x64; certified on suse, red hat, solaris 10, windows xp (x84).
get your flamebait right people. does it have too many features, or have all of the good features been removed?
it's fairly obvious from my experience that the poor grammar + spelling comes from english being a second language for them. it's not really surprising that they might have trouble communicating in english, non-verbally, on highly complex technical topics.
the question i have is why employers don't consider this, when hiring. for a large number of my colleagues, attempting a technical email conversation leaves me scratching my head.
in the case of your single use digital, nobody cares if 0.01% of the cameras get exploited. they aim to sell so many that it's insignificant.
my only point is that you are wrong when you said the opposite situation would also be a troll. posts about windows warrant hundreds on "use linux" responses. those responses are mod'd up, not down, and are certainly not considered trolls or flamebaits. if you agree with this, then fine. if not, there are megabytes of posts on here to prove you wrong.
as far as how it works on /., you are simply wrong and to say anything else so so ridiculous i won't even both disputing it. any post related to windows warrants hundreds of "windoze sux! use linux!" posts, and yes, these get mod'd up no matter how inane they are.
this might come as a shock, but outside of your little /. world, people care about getting the job done not about any sort of petty childish OS rivaly. but hey, that attitude is not allowed here right? it's all about picking a side, and making sure it's the right side.
okay, so by that logic, any feedback to an article here on /. that is explicitly about windows yet mentions linux should also be a troll right? the only point here is that i might be off topic. trying to apply anything else to this is sheer hypocrisy. any post about windows gathers feedback, 90% of which start with "... if you used Linux, then ...".
the problem is the whole attitude of this site. so i suggested a more productive alternative, that happens to include windows and that's a troll? maybe off topic. but not a troll. if you think mentioning windows is a troll or flamebait, that's really something you should go talk to your therapist about. good luck with that.