Your reply is just avoiding the discussion by nitpicking. You're a smart person, you get what i was saying. How about contribute to the discussion next time instead?
You are right. The fact that there are actually tens (hundreds) of companies building unique hardware that runs Android has nothing at all to do with the complexity of pushing updates to those devices.
How about you look deeper than the last "ANDROID IS FRAGMENTED" headline you read from some shitty online click bait source?
You're a smart person
Actually, I thought you might be able to parse the sarcasm to see what I was getting at. I was wrong.
In reality, three months would likely work fine but asking for the minimum isn't likely to get you there is it?
WTF are you saying? The limiting factor is whether consumers are asking for it or not? I'm pretty sure that me, or you "asking" for anything isn't going to have a big effect on the laws of physics and the material properties that put limits on battery life.
But hey, why limit yourself? Let's have self driving cars that read our minds. There it is, I'm asking for it. If enough of us ask, it's bound to come to fruition. And if you think I'm making a ridiculous exaggeration, it's not much more than suggesting a computer with an always on backlit screen is going to have 6 months of battery life.
Smartwatches still need the phone to do the vast majority of the things they do.
No they don't. Even my watch from 2 years ago has wifi. Buy yes I get the point that it's not completely independent.
The gain in convenience is trivial, even if you successfully argue that the cost in extra charge time is trivial. The market is voting, and people don't really want yet another thing to charge.
Steve Kondik needs to go back to his roots and just do better android ports for common devices again. There's still a big need for it.
Although I'm sure you'd love him to spend his days and nights building software for free, I suspect he needs to eat and pay his electric bill.
He needs to get with a business person that can build something around his skills. What I thought CM, Inc was supposed to be was a company that one could contract do bring up and support for your hardware, or perhaps take over support for older devices. It's not exactly exciting, but device manufacturers would fall over themselves to pay someone to take that nightmare off their hands.
I'd be prepared to accept a six monthly charging cycle (still ten times more often than regular watches) but every frig'ing day is ridiculous.
Ah yes, queue the "but my Casio..." posts that plaster every smart watch thread.
Are you really having that much trouble getting over the word "watch" in the name? It's not a watch. It's a fairly powerful computer that happens to be in a watch form-factor. Do you hear the word "watch" and just shut off your brain after that? It's called a smartWATCH because calling it a "wrist hobblinsnicker" is poor marketing. If the only possible thing you can imagine using a smartwatch for is the same things for which you use your Casio, you are right, buying one would be friggin' ridiculous.
If you don't want a computer on your wrist, that's fine, but making comparisons to your Casio's battery life is about as smart as making a comparison between a calculator and a laptop computer. I mean really, imagine those idiots. A handheld calculator can multiply numbers just as good as that desktop and costs hundreds or THOUSANDS of times less. It NEVER needs to be charged. It fits in my pocket. It doesn't need a full keyboard with all of those useless letter and function keys. It has a built in display saving me hundreds of dollars. The OS NEVER needs upgrading, and it never, ever crashes.
I have been honestly thinking, what are those smart watches used for? If the thing does not show time without pressing button or shaking it, it is useless for keeping sneakily track of remaining time in corporate meetings. And if the device needs to be charged more often than phone, can it be trusted as timekeeper?
Many have always-on OLED displays. So no, you don't have to press or shake to see the display. Most (all?) this or last gen models have at least one day of battery. As long as you get in the habit of dropping it on the charger along with your phone and other things at night it's not an issue. I have a model from 2 years ago that goes about 36 hours, with an always-on display.
Do the manufacturers think people *like* input lag and intentionally increase it on products marketed as TVs or something?
Image processing. HDR. Upscaling. Etc. Most high-ish end modern TVs will have a "gaming mode" that turns this off. I'm too lazy to understand the actual problem w/ Sony.
Just like any other electronics company, they have winners and they have losers. It all just depends on the product team and other factors.
That misses the point. All companies have hits and misses, but brushing problems under the digital rug is reprehensible, especially when it can factor into a consumer's decision to spend $2,000.
If you even found the thread it means you were searching for things like "sony bravia gaming" or "sony bravia gaming lag" etc. Consumers that don't care about response times would never see it. For the (probably small) subset of consumers that do care, they've hidden pertinent information that would have factored into their choice.
Failure of an app is not a failure of the device, or of the operating system.
TFA article is just making claims about users' perception of stability. You you think a user cares that their Facebook app crashes because of a flaw in the app, a flaw in the iOS SDK, a flaw in the underlying system libraries used to implement the SDK, a flaw in the kernel, or a flaw in the hardware? They don't.
Do you think they would just shitcan their flagship product and have nothing to sell in that space for months if it wasn't an actual problem?
The OP didn't say it wasn't a problem. He said the actual failure rates were low. When "failure" means burning people alive you don't have to have a high failure rate to initiate a product recall.
I'll take a crashing legitimate app over perfectly functioning malware any day.
Do you have malware on your Android device? Oh let me guess. You don't have an Android device, but you did read another bullshit story making claims about Android malware. That kettle is a real dark color.
a 4.7" or so screen size with decent specs would sell like hotcakes
If there was a way to sell anything like hotcakes they'd be doing it. People don't want smaller screens, not in the number that would justify a product.
I'm sorry but tolerating hate is not tolerance, it's cowardice
The definition of hate speech isn't objective. I'm sure there was some point in the not to distant past of the USA where a black person speaking out would have been considered analogously to hate speech.
First, Twitter can do whatever they want. They are a corporation. They don't answer to anyone but their shareholders and if their shareholders think these folks are bad for business, goodbye to them. Consumers can make their own decisions about whether they want to continue to use Twitter considering their policies.
That being said, "hate speech" is pretty innocuous is you never hear it. I could care less what these people are posting on Twitter. I don't follow them. I never see it. I don't care.
When speaking about online currencies, gold farming and gaming APIs, if the best analogy you can come up with is a pac-man score, yeah, you don't get it.
Well, who did they deceive? The blurb says that everything was done through the game's API. If EA wasn't keeping track of how often games were reporting as being finished, how is this an exploit or deception? AFAICT, everything was done out in the open. So it goes back to how is this deception?
So, let's get this straight. You argument is that since the supposed victim didn't immediately identify the exploit, there's no fraud? So like if I take a car from the local dealer in broad daylight and no one notices for a few days, there's no theft either right?
"The victim was stupid" has never been a working defense. If it you think it should be, take a few minutes and ponder the implication to the legal system.
Except skeeball tickets are physical items that require real money to purchase. This video game shit is just points, no different than a score in Pac-Man.
Obviously they weren't just point sinces they were able to sell them and make $15 million. I'd sure like some of those "points."
BTW, your reference to Pac-Man makes it clear to everyone that you are up on the bleeding edge of today's technology.
With your business acumen, could you provide with with some hot stock tips? Sun Microsystems?
I guess they're banking on idiots like you buying the same products over and over.
As opposed to, say, some other idiots that base their business decisions on things like... what, I don't even know. Not performance. Not profits. Not assets. Not customer loyalty or satisfaction. Some deep seated illogical hatred of a thing that has no personality to begin with? I dunno, maybe you were a "PC guy" when you were kid and haven't grown out of that line of thinking?
Anyway, as much fun as it is to speculate on the nature of your delusions, I have to go now. Don't sell that AOL stock!
Apple employees outside the USA work in the retail stores or tech support. Are you suggesting a big brainstorm of those clerks financed by the 200 billions dollars Apple stashes offshore? That's your decade of R&D?
You're right. It's impossible for Apple to say open up engineering centers in other parts of the world. After all, no other company has been able to hire engineers and build products outside of the USA.
But anyway, I don't disagree. Apple is swirling the drain here. You've got your pulse on this tech business world. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Money isn't useless if it's not in the USA. But hey don't take my word for it. Ask the 95% of the world that doesn't live in the USA.
As for "a decade of R&D": this is exactly what they have NOT done. The first iPhone is now almost a decade old and they've done nothing but surf on that since then.
Compared to what? The fantastic innovation coming out of Samsung, HTC, and Lenovo? They don't have to live up to your standards, they only have to keep up with the competition.
They can't even be bothered to do proper QA on their software or secure their friggin cloud. Idiots with billions.
Again, compared to what?
Wonder why the economy is bad? Companies like Apple are a financial cancer.
I didn't say they weren't a financial cancer. I said they are doing incredible financially compare to their competition and have a ridiculous amount of reserves. Both of those are indisputable.
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Your reply is just avoiding the discussion by nitpicking. You're a smart person, you get what i was saying. How about contribute to the discussion next time instead?
You are right. The fact that there are actually tens (hundreds) of companies building unique hardware that runs Android has nothing at all to do with the complexity of pushing updates to those devices.
How about you look deeper than the last "ANDROID IS FRAGMENTED" headline you read from some shitty online click bait source?
You're a smart person
Actually, I thought you might be able to parse the sarcasm to see what I was getting at. I was wrong.
In reality, three months would likely work fine but asking for the minimum isn't likely to get you there is it?
WTF are you saying? The limiting factor is whether consumers are asking for it or not? I'm pretty sure that me, or you "asking" for anything isn't going to have a big effect on the laws of physics and the material properties that put limits on battery life.
But hey, why limit yourself? Let's have self driving cars that read our minds. There it is, I'm asking for it. If enough of us ask, it's bound to come to fruition. And if you think I'm making a ridiculous exaggeration, it's not much more than suggesting a computer with an always on backlit screen is going to have 6 months of battery life.
Smartwatches still need the phone to do the vast majority of the things they do.
No they don't. Even my watch from 2 years ago has wifi. Buy yes I get the point that it's not completely independent.
The gain in convenience is trivial, even if you successfully argue that the cost in extra charge time is trivial. The market is voting, and people don't really want yet another thing to charge.
That's a valid opinion.
Apple supports their devices a heck of a lot longer than Android has done so far
Actually, there's no company called "Android" so that comment doesn't even make sense.
Steve Kondik needs to go back to his roots and just do better android ports for common devices again. There's still a big need for it.
Although I'm sure you'd love him to spend his days and nights building software for free, I suspect he needs to eat and pay his electric bill.
He needs to get with a business person that can build something around his skills. What I thought CM, Inc was supposed to be was a company that one could contract do bring up and support for your hardware, or perhaps take over support for older devices. It's not exactly exciting, but device manufacturers would fall over themselves to pay someone to take that nightmare off their hands.
He should have bailed when his CEO started that "take Android back from Google" crap.
http://gizmodo.com/cyanogen-wa...
What an idiot.
I'd be prepared to accept a six monthly charging cycle (still ten times more often than regular watches) but every frig'ing day is ridiculous.
Ah yes, queue the "but my Casio ..." posts that plaster every smart watch thread.
Are you really having that much trouble getting over the word "watch" in the name? It's not a watch. It's a fairly powerful computer that happens to be in a watch form-factor. Do you hear the word "watch" and just shut off your brain after that? It's called a smartWATCH because calling it a "wrist hobblinsnicker" is poor marketing. If the only possible thing you can imagine using a smartwatch for is the same things for which you use your Casio, you are right, buying one would be friggin' ridiculous.
If you don't want a computer on your wrist, that's fine, but making comparisons to your Casio's battery life is about as smart as making a comparison between a calculator and a laptop computer. I mean really, imagine those idiots. A handheld calculator can multiply numbers just as good as that desktop and costs hundreds or THOUSANDS of times less. It NEVER needs to be charged. It fits in my pocket. It doesn't need a full keyboard with all of those useless letter and function keys. It has a built in display saving me hundreds of dollars. The OS NEVER needs upgrading, and it never, ever crashes.
I have been honestly thinking, what are those smart watches used for? If the thing does not show time without pressing button or shaking it, it is useless for keeping sneakily track of remaining time in corporate meetings. And if the device needs to be charged more often than phone, can it be trusted as timekeeper?
Many have always-on OLED displays. So no, you don't have to press or shake to see the display. Most (all?) this or last gen models have at least one day of battery. As long as you get in the habit of dropping it on the charger along with your phone and other things at night it's not an issue. I have a model from 2 years ago that goes about 36 hours, with an always-on display.
Do the manufacturers think people *like* input lag and intentionally increase it on products marketed as TVs or something?
Image processing. HDR. Upscaling. Etc. Most high-ish end modern TVs will have a "gaming mode" that turns this off. I'm too lazy to understand the actual problem w/ Sony.
Just like any other electronics company, they have winners and they have losers. It all just depends on the product team and other factors.
That misses the point. All companies have hits and misses, but brushing problems under the digital rug is reprehensible, especially when it can factor into a consumer's decision to spend $2,000.
If you even found the thread it means you were searching for things like "sony bravia gaming" or "sony bravia gaming lag" etc. Consumers that don't care about response times would never see it. For the (probably small) subset of consumers that do care, they've hidden pertinent information that would have factored into their choice.
Worked on you I guess.
Failure of an app is not a failure of the device, or of the operating system.
TFA article is just making claims about users' perception of stability. You you think a user cares that their Facebook app crashes because of a flaw in the app, a flaw in the iOS SDK, a flaw in the underlying system libraries used to implement the SDK, a flaw in the kernel, or a flaw in the hardware? They don't.
Do you think they would just shitcan their flagship product and have nothing to sell in that space for months if it wasn't an actual problem?
The OP didn't say it wasn't a problem. He said the actual failure rates were low. When "failure" means burning people alive you don't have to have a high failure rate to initiate a product recall.
I'll take a crashing legitimate app over perfectly functioning malware any day.
Do you have malware on your Android device? Oh let me guess. You don't have an Android device, but you did read another bullshit story making claims about Android malware. That kettle is a real dark color.
https://it.slashdot.org/story/...
Enjoy your Chinese phones.
a 4.7" or so screen size with decent specs would sell like hotcakes
If there was a way to sell anything like hotcakes they'd be doing it. People don't want smaller screens, not in the number that would justify a product.
As it was with the 1, the 3t is half the price of a new iPhone and has better specs.
You ought to compare benchmarks not specs. The iPhone 7 blows the doors off any Android device. It's not even close.
I'm sorry but tolerating hate is not tolerance, it's cowardice
The definition of hate speech isn't objective. I'm sure there was some point in the not to distant past of the USA where a black person speaking out would have been considered analogously to hate speech.
First, Twitter can do whatever they want. They are a corporation. They don't answer to anyone but their shareholders and if their shareholders think these folks are bad for business, goodbye to them. Consumers can make their own decisions about whether they want to continue to use Twitter considering their policies.
That being said, "hate speech" is pretty innocuous is you never hear it. I could care less what these people are posting on Twitter. I don't follow them. I never see it. I don't care.
Your second paragraph is tilting at windmills.
When speaking about online currencies, gold farming and gaming APIs, if the best analogy you can come up with is a pac-man score, yeah, you don't get it.
Well, who did they deceive? The blurb says that everything was done through the game's API. If EA wasn't keeping track of how often games were reporting as being finished, how is this an exploit or deception? AFAICT, everything was done out in the open. So it goes back to how is this deception?
So, let's get this straight. You argument is that since the supposed victim didn't immediately identify the exploit, there's no fraud? So like if I take a car from the local dealer in broad daylight and no one notices for a few days, there's no theft either right?
"The victim was stupid" has never been a working defense. If it you think it should be, take a few minutes and ponder the implication to the legal system.
Except skeeball tickets are physical items that require real money to purchase. This video game shit is just points, no different than a score in Pac-Man.
Obviously they weren't just point sinces they were able to sell them and make $15 million. I'd sure like some of those "points."
BTW, your reference to Pac-Man makes it clear to everyone that you are up on the bleeding edge of today's technology.
With your business acumen, could you provide with with some hot stock tips? Sun Microsystems?
I guess they're banking on idiots like you buying the same products over and over.
As opposed to, say, some other idiots that base their business decisions on things like ... what, I don't even know. Not performance. Not profits. Not assets. Not customer loyalty or satisfaction. Some deep seated illogical hatred of a thing that has no personality to begin with? I dunno, maybe you were a "PC guy" when you were kid and haven't grown out of that line of thinking?
Anyway, as much fun as it is to speculate on the nature of your delusions, I have to go now. Don't sell that AOL stock!
Apple employees outside the USA work in the retail stores or tech support. Are you suggesting a big brainstorm of those clerks financed by the 200 billions dollars Apple stashes offshore? That's your decade of R&D?
You're right. It's impossible for Apple to say open up engineering centers in other parts of the world. After all, no other company has been able to hire engineers and build products outside of the USA.
But anyway, I don't disagree. Apple is swirling the drain here. You've got your pulse on this tech business world. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Money isn't useless if it's not in the USA. But hey don't take my word for it. Ask the 95% of the world that doesn't live in the USA.
As for "a decade of R&D": this is exactly what they have NOT done. The first iPhone is now almost a decade old and they've done nothing but surf on that since then.
Compared to what? The fantastic innovation coming out of Samsung, HTC, and Lenovo? They don't have to live up to your standards, they only have to keep up with the competition.
They can't even be bothered to do proper QA on their software or secure their friggin cloud. Idiots with billions.
Again, compared to what?
Wonder why the economy is bad? Companies like Apple are a financial cancer.
I didn't say they weren't a financial cancer. I said they are doing incredible financially compare to their competition and have a ridiculous amount of reserves. Both of those are indisputable.
Occasionally, people say something sensible in a short message, just not often
Post not smart.