Indeed. To get a little off track....I think, ironically, that for opensource to succeed in the markets in which corporations dominate, they need to actually spend some money. For instance, taking donations to get advertisements on TV encouraging people to switch to linux, for x y and z reason. I would have fallen over laughing, but recognized the great effect of an open source Linux ad during the superbowl(too expensive unfortunately). I also just had an idea, and that would be to form a nonprofit company for the sake of Opensource. I'm out of my realm of expertise, though, so I'll stop there
...but oh well. And I did RTFA, along with the summary. There's a very good reason I don't use quotes very often, and thats to try to prevent this sort of thing from happening, where I see and think of a word and an idea in an article, and use them together, then the author comes at me about it as if I directly quoted it. But you are right, of course, it doesn't say what I said it said. But, I think the point is still there, in the first sentence, and the following paragraph no less:
"Microsoft's profit is currently focussed on two major products - MS Windows and MS Office. Both of these are in decline.
"Windows is increasingly facing competition from alternative operating systems and the next version, Longhorn, is not due out until some nebulous future date which recedes with every press release.
To make matters worse, upgrade cycles are getting longer. The majority of Windows sales are those bundled with a new PC. Fewer PC upgrades translates to fewer Windows sales."
If you aren't saying that other operating systems are causing a problem for Microsoft, which is the cause of them needing to change their strategy, I don't know why you chose to use the first sentence you wrote. I'm sorry I interpreted what you said more strongly than it actually was. They are facing competition, but I don't see it having any significant impact on them. Don't bite my head off next time, give me a fair chance, and I'll give you a fair chance.
What makes the article's author think that alternative Operating Systems are putting a stranglehold on Microsoft? Seriously, could someone give a link to these numbers, because I didn't see any in the article, and without it I have a bit of trouble believing the assertion.
My assumption was based on what you wrote, and as I am not psychic, I couldn't know that you had actually read the article, then chose to write like you hadn't read it. And what exactly did my response to you say about me? Because you know nothing about me. That was hardly a childish tantrum compared to what you wrote, and what you responded with. This could seem to be a tantrum I suppose, but I don't really care. I'm sick and tired of people making blanket statements that don't acknowledge any other relevant information.
Go Fuck yourself.
You really shouldn't be posting if you didn't read the interview. After all, this thread is about the interview itself, notice how it's title isn't "let's all bitch about Bill Gates." Then again, this is slashdot, where anyone spewing uninformed trash about Bill Gates is insightful. Here's something for you to ponder: Every single company at the same level or higher than Microsoft makes extremely questionable moves, companies like GE, Phillip-Morris, etc. Even Apple does this sort of thing.
Seriously, come on. I know I'll be marked a troll for this, but I think the originator of this story is himself a troll. Yeah, let's all get rallied against microsoft because they've made the most popular OS in existence on the commercial market, and because of this, exploits are aimed at them. You shouldn't be taking a look at why people stay with Windows, but whats wrong with Mac and Linux that people won't use them in as large numbers as do Windows. I am and have been a Windows user for many years, but I grew up with macs at elementary school, and with various people I come in contact with, and did work with linux on one of our Office PCs over the summer. I'll help you out by giving you my reasons. First, against mac, I know it sounds weird but the display is just TOO pretty. I think it's artsy and I think that's annoying. I don't need my cursor spinning rainbows when I'm checking the news. I do however think Mac has ground to cover, that it is covering well, in the Audio and Video realms. Linux to me is simply a nightmare. And I'm very tech savvy. The fifteen minute boot up is enough to drive any person used to windows or mac insane. And beyond that, I just find it boring. Plus it is extremely difficult to integrate with the many popular things that computer users today want(I'm not saying that no one ports to linux, but it's not standard). And I've got a problem with the whole open-source thing with Linux. Sure it's fine if it's something like firefox, my trusty web browser, I can cope with mistakes from that(for instance, occasionally, only firefox does this, when I load the/. website I get redirected to mcdonalds) I trust a company I've paid money for my software that pays it's employees, and can be held accountable for their mistakes, like Microsoft. I know that if there's a coked out coder writing some system critical function for my latest version of Windows happens to write something that will crash my system while I'm performing extremely important processes, it's much more likely that will be caught, fixed, and the person ejected before the product is finished. In Linux, the users are subject to these dangers, and must report them themselves. This happens more often in Linux, again, not saying it doesn't happen in Windows. At least, thats my impression of it from what I've seen. That can be another problem, being misinformed.
Microsoft does have larger publicity of problems, but they ARE the most popular. If Linux or Mac were the most popular, I guarantee they'd have the same virus epidemics in their alternative existence that windows does in actuality.
we've been very close to this before. for example, the old VAX machines(I think thats what they use) that oil refineries use are near fail-less, but definitely not perfect, because I know about them second hand as a result of a failure. These systems are used in industries like I mentioned where commands need to be sent and processed as fast as possible, without the clutter of background programs that commercial OS's like Windows, Linus, and Macintosh. but anyway this Grand Challenge is a)achievable in the industrial sector, and b)not achievable commercially. The benefit in the industrial sector is the prevention of single errors which can cause hundreds of millions of dollars worth of damage, or even worse things. In the commercial sector, however, the need isn't that great to provide the money that will allow this to happen, and of course OS's would have to be completely redesigned. However, once it happens in the industrial sector, it could possibly cross pollinate to the commercial sector, but I doubt it will in the prominent OSs
The problem with one time pads, and all similar encryption methods is key exchange. In keeping the key secret, you can only keep the data as secret or less secret. If you have perfect security by which you can exchange keys, then you have eliminated the need for encryption, and can just use this method with your plain message.
.... However, I'm quite certian that if people smarter than me think they can make it... then they can......
A bunch of corporate executives thought that same thing during the cybernetic age when a bunch of smart computer scientists were convinced that thinking machines were just around the corner.
half of the newest entries.....oh wait, I see someone's already got the emo lj user-base jokes covered. I have so much room to talk because I have an lj too, haha. But, seriously, how can this have anything to do with six apart?
seriously. I just might put this on my laptop for the fun of it. does anyone know if any of the popular OS's(including bsd and whatnot) use genetic algorithms?
getting caught indeed. my point is that some of their stories simply can't be confirmed whatsoever. But thanks for the info, I'll revise my thinking on it.
I'm flameresting. i like it. hahah
wired doesn't seem like the most honest magazine to me. they hype a lot of their stuff. about a year ago they had something about some programmer who was supposedly setting up cladestine gambling servers for the mob. no way to verify these stories, and obviously sensational. you make the connection
'Hopefully just another nail in Microsoft's coffin....'
Buddy, you need to wake up and realize Microsoft aint going no where. Just like when faulty parts of cars kills tens of thousands of people a year(if not more), GM isn't going out of business. They are a force to be reckoned with. Microsoft is the same, and everyone needs to learn how to live with it, instead of constantly bitching about what wouldve happened to any leading OS, or software company, were Microsoft not in their place. Sheesh
No, I don't think they are. I think they're regretting not updating those windows boxes. The exact same situation could have happened were they outdated macs or linux machines.
This kind of scientific study will lead to companies paying their programmers less, based on the prescribed 'findings.' Everyone is different, you may be able to generate buggy code at 60 hours/week , and the next guy or girl may be able to stay solid at 90. This kind of news and study are dangerous to the programming field
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Indeed. To get a little off track....I think, ironically, that for opensource to succeed in the markets in which corporations dominate, they need to actually spend some money. For instance, taking donations to get advertisements on TV encouraging people to switch to linux, for x y and z reason. I would have fallen over laughing, but recognized the great effect of an open source Linux ad during the superbowl(too expensive unfortunately). I also just had an idea, and that would be to form a nonprofit company for the sake of Opensource. I'm out of my realm of expertise, though, so I'll stop there
well, I saw "dave" and pingwales.co.uk, where the article is from
...but oh well. And I did RTFA, along with the summary. There's a very good reason I don't use quotes very often, and thats to try to prevent this sort of thing from happening, where I see and think of a word and an idea in an article, and use them together, then the author comes at me about it as if I directly quoted it. But you are right, of course, it doesn't say what I said it said. But, I think the point is still there, in the first sentence, and the following paragraph no less: "Microsoft's profit is currently focussed on two major products - MS Windows and MS Office. Both of these are in decline. "Windows is increasingly facing competition from alternative operating systems and the next version, Longhorn, is not due out until some nebulous future date which recedes with every press release. To make matters worse, upgrade cycles are getting longer. The majority of Windows sales are those bundled with a new PC. Fewer PC upgrades translates to fewer Windows sales." If you aren't saying that other operating systems are causing a problem for Microsoft, which is the cause of them needing to change their strategy, I don't know why you chose to use the first sentence you wrote. I'm sorry I interpreted what you said more strongly than it actually was. They are facing competition, but I don't see it having any significant impact on them. Don't bite my head off next time, give me a fair chance, and I'll give you a fair chance.
What makes the article's author think that alternative Operating Systems are putting a stranglehold on Microsoft? Seriously, could someone give a link to these numbers, because I didn't see any in the article, and without it I have a bit of trouble believing the assertion.
My assumption was based on what you wrote, and as I am not psychic, I couldn't know that you had actually read the article, then chose to write like you hadn't read it. And what exactly did my response to you say about me? Because you know nothing about me. That was hardly a childish tantrum compared to what you wrote, and what you responded with. This could seem to be a tantrum I suppose, but I don't really care. I'm sick and tired of people making blanket statements that don't acknowledge any other relevant information. Go Fuck yourself.
You really shouldn't be posting if you didn't read the interview. After all, this thread is about the interview itself, notice how it's title isn't "let's all bitch about Bill Gates." Then again, this is slashdot, where anyone spewing uninformed trash about Bill Gates is insightful. Here's something for you to ponder: Every single company at the same level or higher than Microsoft makes extremely questionable moves, companies like GE, Phillip-Morris, etc. Even Apple does this sort of thing.
Seriously, come on. I know I'll be marked a troll for this, but I think the originator of this story is himself a troll. Yeah, let's all get rallied against microsoft because they've made the most popular OS in existence on the commercial market, and because of this, exploits are aimed at them. You shouldn't be taking a look at why people stay with Windows, but whats wrong with Mac and Linux that people won't use them in as large numbers as do Windows. I am and have been a Windows user for many years, but I grew up with macs at elementary school, and with various people I come in contact with, and did work with linux on one of our Office PCs over the summer. I'll help you out by giving you my reasons. First, against mac, I know it sounds weird but the display is just TOO pretty. I think it's artsy and I think that's annoying. I don't need my cursor spinning rainbows when I'm checking the news. I do however think Mac has ground to cover, that it is covering well, in the Audio and Video realms. Linux to me is simply a nightmare. And I'm very tech savvy. The fifteen minute boot up is enough to drive any person used to windows or mac insane. And beyond that, I just find it boring. Plus it is extremely difficult to integrate with the many popular things that computer users today want(I'm not saying that no one ports to linux, but it's not standard). And I've got a problem with the whole open-source thing with Linux. Sure it's fine if it's something like firefox, my trusty web browser, I can cope with mistakes from that(for instance, occasionally, only firefox does this, when I load the /. website I get redirected to mcdonalds) I trust a company I've paid money for my software that pays it's employees, and can be held accountable for their mistakes, like Microsoft. I know that if there's a coked out coder writing some system critical function for my latest version of Windows happens to write something that will crash my system while I'm performing extremely important processes, it's much more likely that will be caught, fixed, and the person ejected before the product is finished. In Linux, the users are subject to these dangers, and must report them themselves. This happens more often in Linux, again, not saying it doesn't happen in Windows. At least, thats my impression of it from what I've seen. That can be another problem, being misinformed.
Microsoft does have larger publicity of problems, but they ARE the most popular. If Linux or Mac were the most popular, I guarantee they'd have the same virus epidemics in their alternative existence that windows does in actuality.
put windows ce on it.
If Apple had any guts at all theyd sue this guy for reverse engineering their product and publishing how to do so.
we've been very close to this before. for example, the old VAX machines(I think thats what they use) that oil refineries use are near fail-less, but definitely not perfect, because I know about them second hand as a result of a failure. These systems are used in industries like I mentioned where commands need to be sent and processed as fast as possible, without the clutter of background programs that commercial OS's like Windows, Linus, and Macintosh. but anyway this Grand Challenge is a)achievable in the industrial sector, and b)not achievable commercially. The benefit in the industrial sector is the prevention of single errors which can cause hundreds of millions of dollars worth of damage, or even worse things. In the commercial sector, however, the need isn't that great to provide the money that will allow this to happen, and of course OS's would have to be completely redesigned. However, once it happens in the industrial sector, it could possibly cross pollinate to the commercial sector, but I doubt it will in the prominent OSs
mod parent down: redundant and troll. not informative
I like what a coworker of mine said better; .yet
The problem with one time pads, and all similar encryption methods is key exchange. In keeping the key secret, you can only keep the data as secret or less secret. If you have perfect security by which you can exchange keys, then you have eliminated the need for encryption, and can just use this method with your plain message.
.... However, I'm quite certian that if people smarter than me think they can make it... then they can...... A bunch of corporate executives thought that same thing during the cybernetic age when a bunch of smart computer scientists were convinced that thinking machines were just around the corner.
half of the newest entries.....oh wait, I see someone's already got the emo lj user-base jokes covered. I have so much room to talk because I have an lj too, haha. But, seriously, how can this have anything to do with six apart?
seriously. I just might put this on my laptop for the fun of it. does anyone know if any of the popular OS's(including bsd and whatnot) use genetic algorithms?
getting caught indeed. my point is that some of their stories simply can't be confirmed whatsoever. But thanks for the info, I'll revise my thinking on it. I'm flameresting. i like it. hahah
It was mostly a hoax, except for the few decade+ old systems for which it was a serious issue. It was hyped up to sucker the public.
wired doesn't seem like the most honest magazine to me. they hype a lot of their stuff. about a year ago they had something about some programmer who was supposedly setting up cladestine gambling servers for the mob. no way to verify these stories, and obviously sensational. you make the connection
the story should be modified now. we have two thousand users and are # 1
we didn't pay for it then, why should we pay for it now?
perhaps then a fun should be started to buy this vaccine for the unfortunate?
'Hopefully just another nail in Microsoft's coffin....' Buddy, you need to wake up and realize Microsoft aint going no where. Just like when faulty parts of cars kills tens of thousands of people a year(if not more), GM isn't going out of business. They are a force to be reckoned with. Microsoft is the same, and everyone needs to learn how to live with it, instead of constantly bitching about what wouldve happened to any leading OS, or software company, were Microsoft not in their place. Sheesh
No, I don't think they are. I think they're regretting not updating those windows boxes. The exact same situation could have happened were they outdated macs or linux machines.
This kind of scientific study will lead to companies paying their programmers less, based on the prescribed 'findings.' Everyone is different, you may be able to generate buggy code at 60 hours/week , and the next guy or girl may be able to stay solid at 90. This kind of news and study are dangerous to the programming field