Here in Europe we'd replace Google almost instantly with our own technologies and/or we'd buy it from China.
We would be very happy if Google would leave our market. It would bring a lot of employment, it would give us back our own advertising market, it would give us back our privacy and politicians would regain control over their local propaganda channels and media.
I'm not saying the US couldn't produce their own military toys. I'm saying the EU could produce the same military toys, and already produces the current military high tech toys.
I'm also saying that, if necessary, the EU could turn its mighty industry against the US's military industrial complex. And the EU would, while it itself gets bombed sterile, bomb the US sterile. Neither populations, not the US nor the EU's, would have one single survivor.
Except maybe a few who where smart enough to flee on boats that can drift for a few years on the planet's oceans. But those people will die of starvation a few years later too.
Somebody already mentioned it: a military confrontation between the EU and the US is absurd. It would mean the end of both mankind and all of animal lifeforms. Probably also the end of bacteria and plants, too. We would probably destroy the planet itself in the process.
I speak Dutch (well, Flemish). My master's native language used to be French.
Our Dutch speaking area is right now the area that is the area that keeps the country economically alive.
We say here that a language is a dialect with an army.
Well. There was never a "Flemish" army because Flemish are so many dialects that we'd kill each other with laughter about all the different ways to say friet (frietn, frut, frutten, fruttekes, etc) before we could pick up weapons to fight each other over it.
Still. Our masters (the Francophones in Brussels about 200 or so years ago) couldn't make us speak French to each other.
If there is any population on this earth who you can't convince that military might or political might can force a group of people to speak some language, it's the population that I grew up in. The Flemish people.
Will will psychologically drain you, your colonels and soldiers so much that they will massively start killing each other. Ask Napoleon, ask Julius Caesar, ask Hitler ask anybody. They all left Belgium. Because we are fucking assholes who will fuck up, psychologically, the minds of your stupid leaders.
It's totally absurd. You don't want to rule us. You will kill yourself.
Certain things are documented over here. Like who liberated who isn't a matter of propaganda but a matter of well documented facts with thousands of witnesses.
I figured I give you a low tech example: The Goalkeeper.
This thing is keeping your aircraft carriers safe. Developed and produced in The Netherlands.
But I can also show you some websites of European companies who are producing the mirrors and camera's of your spy satellites, rocket engines, bombs being given to your F22 pilots. You want nuclear technology including nuclear weapons? Sure. We do that too. Better than you. Much better and much more reliable. Like the German cars, you know. The ones everybody wants because they actually work.
The US's technology is basically marketing. The EU's technology is the real thing that actually works.
Germany even after the Versailles treaty rebuilt its army so quickly it caught everybody by surprise.
Not only that. Almost all military high-tech that is being developed in the world is being developed in the European Union. This includes rockets for your ballistic missiles, space industry, airplanes, etc.
You really think we can't develop military hardware to fight the US? Look at where your army's toys come from.
They come from us. Especially the high tech. Especially that.
Sounds like a great idea to ask the ECB to print Euros so that we can create our own DARPA.
We need the Euro to inflate anyway.
The EU's economy is a lot larger than the US's economy.
You bet that we can support a larger military than your country can.
We just don't want to, right now.
But challenge us. Go ahead. You'll quickly notice how fast we will militarily dominate you after you are already economically dominated by the EU (and nowadays China, too).
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Here in Europe we'd replace Google almost instantly with our own technologies and/or we'd buy it from China.
We would be very happy if Google would leave our market. It would bring a lot of employment, it would give us back our own advertising market, it would give us back our privacy and politicians would regain control over their local propaganda channels and media.
Yes, yes please Google. Leave.
Wait, I'm not saying it's a bad thing that the US stops sharing intelligence data with the EU.
It's fine. We are just saying bye to you.
That's probably true (that our populations wouldn't want it). And that's also why we aren't investing in or waging wars.
I'm not, at all, asking for a military confrontation with the US. I'm responding to many people that it's absurd.
Please read what I wrote better.
I'm not saying the US couldn't produce their own military toys. I'm saying the EU could produce the same military toys, and already produces the current military high tech toys.
I'm also saying that, if necessary, the EU could turn its mighty industry against the US's military industrial complex. And the EU would, while it itself gets bombed sterile, bomb the US sterile. Neither populations, not the US nor the EU's, would have one single survivor.
Except maybe a few who where smart enough to flee on boats that can drift for a few years on the planet's oceans. But those people will die of starvation a few years later too.
Somebody already mentioned it: a military confrontation between the EU and the US is absurd. It would mean the end of both mankind and all of animal lifeforms. Probably also the end of bacteria and plants, too. We would probably destroy the planet itself in the process.
It's absurd.
Your country is right now waging a propaganda war against the current rules in Venezuela.
This is and has always been the pretext of an American bombing campaign.
That is why I think pretty soon the US is going to be bombing Venezuela.
Oh and also because Venezuela has oil. And because Venezuela wants to switch away from the US Dollar for trading that oil. Also because of that.
Not really. You are still spending your credit card money in our European bar or disco. If we, the owner, don't want you here then you leave.
No matter the size of your stupid credit card bank account.
We want you to slowly leave, while we build up our own EU army.
Not drastically and immediate.
But if you do leave immediate and drastically, then that's fine too.
We'll cope. We might take from you the military NATO bases and weapons that are stored there, though. If necessary by force.
We simply don't want to spend money on military. And especially not on military like NATO that helps the US with world dominance.
So no. We're not going to try to match 1:1 for troop donation.
Bye.
I speak Dutch (well, Flemish). My master's native language used to be French.
Our Dutch speaking area is right now the area that is the area that keeps the country economically alive.
We say here that a language is a dialect with an army.
Well. There was never a "Flemish" army because Flemish are so many dialects that we'd kill each other with laughter about all the different ways to say friet (frietn, frut, frutten, fruttekes, etc) before we could pick up weapons to fight each other over it.
Still. Our masters (the Francophones in Brussels about 200 or so years ago) couldn't make us speak French to each other.
If there is any population on this earth who you can't convince that military might or political might can force a group of people to speak some language, it's the population that I grew up in. The Flemish people.
Will will psychologically drain you, your colonels and soldiers so much that they will massively start killing each other. Ask Napoleon, ask Julius Caesar, ask Hitler ask anybody. They all left Belgium. Because we are fucking assholes who will fuck up, psychologically, the minds of your stupid leaders.
It's totally absurd. You don't want to rule us. You will kill yourself.
Certain things are documented over here. Like who liberated who isn't a matter of propaganda but a matter of well documented facts with thousands of witnesses.
Actually, increasingly, we are ignoring you.
For example. Very few EU countries helped you in Iraq. Very few helped you in Syria.
You can bet that almost none will help you in Venezuela.
Meanwhile we are building the North Stream 2 pipeline with Russia.
You and your regime are being ignored.
We also want you and your military to leave Europe. We are indeed not investing in NATO. We will start investing in our own European army.
This will continue like that until you Americans get it.
We want you to leave.
So? We don't want to spend money on military.
You, the US (assuming you are a US citizen) do.
We don't.
Please leave Europe with your military.
Go away.
So what? We don't want to spend money on soldiers and military toys.
You do.
You are basically telling us to spend money on something we don't want.
Why don't you fuck off with your military?
Get out of Europe. Get out of Rammstein. Go away.
I'm absolutely not disagreeing with you that the EU doesn't need a mega military like the US has.
The result would only be military confrontations that would basically wipe out all life forms on earth.
This is obviously not beneficial for either the US or the EU.
However. The EU does need to do business with China. No matter what the US thinks about that. This includes doing business with Huawei.
We are not part of the US's trade war. So the US can fuck off.
Because why not? Sure we can ask Nokia and Siemens to work harder. But if they don't want to compete hard enough with Huawei, we just buy Huawei.
It's called capitalism.
Of course is the idea absurd. I wasn't the one who suggested it in this thread.
I called out the absurdity of the very idea from the beginning.
And after that event, all of the world's military powers will be bombarding the US with nuclear weapons. Including the remaining EU military power.
I figured I give you a low tech example: The Goalkeeper.
This thing is keeping your aircraft carriers safe. Developed and produced in The Netherlands.
But I can also show you some websites of European companies who are producing the mirrors and camera's of your spy satellites, rocket engines, bombs being given to your F22 pilots. You want nuclear technology including nuclear weapons? Sure. We do that too. Better than you. Much better and much more reliable. Like the German cars, you know. The ones everybody wants because they actually work.
The US's technology is basically marketing. The EU's technology is the real thing that actually works.
Germany even after the Versailles treaty rebuilt its army so quickly it caught everybody by surprise.
Not only that. Almost all military high-tech that is being developed in the world is being developed in the European Union. This includes rockets for your ballistic missiles, space industry, airplanes, etc.
You really think we can't develop military hardware to fight the US? Look at where your army's toys come from.
They come from us. Especially the high tech. Especially that.
You don't want us to turn those toys against you.
Sounds like a great idea to ask the ECB to print Euros so that we can create our own DARPA.
We need the Euro to inflate anyway.
The EU's economy is a lot larger than the US's economy.
You bet that we can support a larger military than your country can.
We just don't want to, right now.
But challenge us. Go ahead. You'll quickly notice how fast we will militarily dominate you after you are already economically dominated by the EU (and nowadays China, too).
A military confrontation between the EU and the US would end in an earth that is sterile. Keep this firmly in mind.
Please don't save us and stay home. Spend your American tax dollars on bridges and education.
Like we do.
You need it.
As I said, we would probably be speaking Russian.
It indeed has little to do with what is going on today.
Multiple generations have passed since this event. As a non-German European I even don't blame any single German person anymore.
This is now history.
Just try not to kill them. For once. Try not to.