...that have been modded +5 by some fanboy moderators... most of these +5 comments are just MSFT fanboys trying to bash the PS3.
With a number of previously-PS3-exclusive titles having gone multiplatform, are there any efforts to prevent this from occurring further, or is it of little concern to SCE? That is, should we expect to see more PS3-exclusives go multiplatform?
Of course there are efforts, and he's going to say that he'll stay the course. And of course he's going to say that you won't expect to see more PS3 exclusives go multi-platform except for a few perhaps.
Given the problems that seem to have come with Blu-Ray, does it still look like including the drive in the system was worth it? And if so, was it worth it for the PS3, for the Blu-Ray format, or for both? What steps are being taken to remedy the problems in price and availability?
It's integral to the PS3. He's not going to say, "uh... we made a mistake". They are moving to a 65nm process with 45nm in the future. They replaced the Emotion chip.
I understand the strategy of never announcing price drops until they're imminent, but the PS3 is not even on many people's radar at the moment, because of the staggering price. The Neo Geo consumer hardware followed a similar price model. Are you even considering price drops on the PS3 hardware?
Microsoft's XBox 360's price is "staggering" if you count all the extras you need to buy afterwards. WiFi, online play, and HD DVD. No they aren't considering price drops for the time being, it's been said many times before, and it would be stupid to say it even if they were so people will wait out and not buy one now.
Why should I shell out over $500.00 USD to purchase the PS3 when I can purchase an XBOX 360 and/or Nintendo Wii for the same price? Perhaps even buying the two of them and still paying the price of just the PS3. This is not meant to be a jab, just a legitimate questions.
Have you included the price of WiFi, free online play, and HD movies? Have you considered the cost of controllers? No it's not the same price, not even close.
Now there is a question I have. Why is it that it's the year 2007, the PS3 is a "High Definition" system, and costs $500-$600... yet still only includes the same composite video cables people have been using since the NES 22 years ago?
People are already ranting about the price despite including Blu-Ray. Now that they decided to cut costs for the consumer by not including the cables, you're ranting on them too?
Is there a chance that the policy of restricting access to PS3 graphics hardware (via the hypervisor) could be revised to encourage us homebrew developers?
Now this is a legitimate question. I'd like to hear the answer to this one.
Is Sony aware of Microsoft's viral campaign against the PS3 and how it uses paid bloggers and commenters to inspire more hate against the PS3? Is Sony prepared to do something about it?
For instance, Kotaku.com is well known to be anti-Sony with many anti-Sony stories, and yet Sony is indifferent. Notice that this viral campaign has spread across the Internet and has even affect Slashdot, which used to be anti-Microsoft.
..would want to censor the Internet. Content provided by the United States represent a significant portion of the total content of the Internet. Now despite what we think, many topics are heavily biased towards the United States - for instance, look at all the uninformed opinions of other countries like France and China we have. Why would a government want their citizens to be exposed to the inadvertent propaganda? The United States has the luxury of being culturally dominant and it's citizens are less open to information from sources originating from other countries, especially non-English speaking ones.
As for the Wii, the only drawback of the Wii I can see is the graphical capabilities. But I agree with you there, the Wii is definitely a fun machine to play.
As for reliability - the 4 month reliability comparisons are definitely in the PS3's favour. A year is an arbitrary time-period, and there have been much more reports of XBox 360s failing.
The backwards compatibility of the PS3 is still better than the XBox 360 if you count total number of games. Percentage-wise, yes, they're roughly the same.
I'm not saying the PS3 is better, I'm just saying that it's incorrect to say it's too expensive. It's cheaper *if* you want those things I mentioned. In my case, I prefer to have wireless Internet and free online play. Linux is a bonus, and so is Blu-ray. There are many people who probably fit in my boat, just like there are many people who fit in yours.
I would nominate Streetfighter as the originator of competitive fighting games like Streetfighter 2, Tekken, Virtua fighter, Killer Instinct, Mortal Kombat, as well as movies based on them.
Microsoft is even worse. If you bothered reading Zonk's other articles, they've been too critical of the PS3 and Sony while heaping praise on Microsoft and the XBox. I have a feeling that you're just a fanboy that can't accept Sony news with out a negative spin.
I don't know how your post got modded insightful, more like troll - but of course, fanboy moderators will go through any lengths to get their voices heard.
So for $400 ($600 if you include online gaming, $700 with Wifi, and $900 with HD-DVD), Microsoft should "get it right the first time"?
This is the type of fanboy drivel that I'm sick of. There's no logic or sensible argument here. It's just ranting and if the parent comment was posted early enough, it would have gotten a +5 Insightful by other fanboy moderators.
Although Sony has made a few mistakes in it's public relations, one can't help but wonder if Microsoft has a hand with all the hate that is going on towards Sony. Microsoft has prior experience in creating FUD towards it's competitors, and in the fanboy culture of gaming, this has never been easier.
Microsoft's fanboy conversion rate is very high. Although there are some valid criticisms regarding the PS3, much of the same criticisms can be applied towards Microsoft.
For instance, the cost of the XBox 360 when WiFi and HD-DVD, and online gaming are added, is far greater than the cost of the high-end PS3. Sure you might like the modular approach, but the fact is, quite a significant portion of gamers use the online service, and use WiFi. If you add those two components, the XBox 360 costs over $100 more than the PS3 over 4 years. Add the HD-DVD player, and it costs $300. If the PS3 is prohibitively expensive, than the XBox 360 is more so, notably for online gamers who don't want to punch holes in their walls or ceilings.
Sony's business practices have been terrible in the past, but Microsoft's has been even worse. At least Sony is starting to embrace open standards, and we need to encourage that sort of thinking by buying their open products. The PS3 includes support for any USB webcam, or headphones, accepts flash cards other than Memory Stick, allows you to install other OS'es.. you can tell much of the machine was made by people who "get it".
Instead of arguing logical points, fanboys have been ranting over just about everything, even though some can be directed towards Microsoft, and some are just trivial in nature. For instance, Zonk ranted against Sony about long lineups at stores, and how people paid homeless people to buy a PS3. It's gotten to that point where logic no longer applies, and it's a mob mentality that's taken control of XBox gamers everywhere.
If you're getting paid by Microsoft, either in the form of advertising, laptops, or cash, then good for you, at least you're doing it for sound reasons. But if you're bashing Sony for everything they do, posting snide remarks under every Sony story, then you should ask yourself if you've been infected by Microsoft's viral campaign.
No, but it looks like Sony's actually IMPROVED upon the original ideas.
Microsoft rips off other products by first doing a poor imitation, tying it with Windows, pushing the competitor out, and then improving it to the point where the competitor is irrelevant, and then stopping all innovation, except when trying to get customers to purchase version (n++).0.
Please, nothing by itself isn't worth it for $600, Gears of War isn't even worth the cost of an XBox 360. It's the whole package, and every little thing that adds to the package helps. So no, PS3 Home, isn't worth $600, but perhaps as one poster said, bug fixes and patches, Blu-ray, free online, WiFi included, etc... *is* enough for some people.
I'm tired of fanboys rehashing the same invalid arguments over and over again.
The difference is that they're not the same. Microsoft is evil, Google isn't. Microsoft's approach to copyright and DRM is despicable, while Google's practices are to be admired.
We should all boycott Microsoft's products (if we can), like the Zune, Vista, the XBox 360, Office, etc...
That's the main reason you don't see wifi in many phones these days - providers are worried that customers will use VOIP instead of their long distance service.
Patents aren't about the underlying idea, they are about the implementation.
Tell that to RIM.
Also, the nonobvious part seems to be applying that to games and making the game control it, the technology would have been available at the time of the Atari 2600 if it was so obvious that it's a good idea.
Cost? technology? Processing power? I'm sure there were many other factors that rendered force feedback infeasible back in the 80s. And by the time Immersion came up with the idea (not the implementation), Nintendo had already put it in it's Rumble Pak, and there were vibrators and vibrating cellphones and pagers.
And seriously, "game controllers and other devices to vibrate in response to certain events that happen during a game" - how hard is it to think of that? Cellphones, pagers and vibrators were already vibrating in response to certain events. It's a patent that didn't require much to think of, and should never have been awarded.
Sony at least tried to fight the ridiculous patent. I'd say Sony went to much further lengths than Microsoft did, hence Sony deserves more respect than Microsoft in this regard.
Immersion was awarded a ridiculous patent - vibration - which was found in many electronic devices already - pagers, cell phones, vibrators, and Nintendo's Rumble Pak.
Rather than fight a patent that shouldn't have been granted at all, Microsoft decided to team up with the patent troll, for the purpose of hindering their competitor, much like they did with SCO and Linux. I suppose you support that as well.
Sony recognized the patent was ludicrous and did the best they could at voiding the patent. Unfortunately they lost.
Microsoft did not "own" up. Rather, they did the despicable thing and gave credibility to the patent troll company (think SCO), by funding them. It's these sorts of practices that should convince people to boycott the Xbox 360.
Microsoft has a history of supporting trolls - just take a look at SCO. This time, they settled with the patent troll company Immersion, and proceeded to buy a 40% stake in the company.
This will benefit PS3 owners, but the public ultimately lost.
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Of course there are efforts, and he's going to say that he'll stay the course. And of course he's going to say that you won't expect to see more PS3 exclusives go multi-platform except for a few perhaps.
It's integral to the PS3. He's not going to say, "uh... we made a mistake". They are moving to a 65nm process with 45nm in the future. They replaced the Emotion chip.
Microsoft's XBox 360's price is "staggering" if you count all the extras you need to buy afterwards. WiFi, online play, and HD DVD. No they aren't considering price drops for the time being, it's been said many times before, and it would be stupid to say it even if they were so people will wait out and not buy one now.
Have you included the price of WiFi, free online play, and HD movies? Have you considered the cost of controllers? No it's not the same price, not even close.
People are already ranting about the price despite including Blu-Ray. Now that they decided to cut costs for the consumer by not including the cables, you're ranting on them too?
Now this is a legitimate question. I'd like to hear the answer to this one.
Is Sony aware of Microsoft's viral campaign against the PS3 and how it uses paid bloggers and commenters to inspire more hate against the PS3? Is Sony prepared to do something about it?
For instance, Kotaku.com is well known to be anti-Sony with many anti-Sony stories, and yet Sony is indifferent. Notice that this viral campaign has spread across the Internet and has even affect Slashdot, which used to be anti-Microsoft.
..would want to censor the Internet. Content provided by the United States represent a significant portion of the total content of the Internet. Now despite what we think, many topics are heavily biased towards the United States - for instance, look at all the uninformed opinions of other countries like France and China we have. Why would a government want their citizens to be exposed to the inadvertent propaganda? The United States has the luxury of being culturally dominant and it's citizens are less open to information from sources originating from other countries, especially non-English speaking ones.
*You* don't care. But there are people that do.
As for the Wii, the only drawback of the Wii I can see is the graphical capabilities. But I agree with you there, the Wii is definitely a fun machine to play.
As for reliability - the 4 month reliability comparisons are definitely in the PS3's favour. A year is an arbitrary time-period, and there have been much more reports of XBox 360s failing.
The backwards compatibility of the PS3 is still better than the XBox 360 if you count total number of games. Percentage-wise, yes, they're roughly the same.
I'm not saying the PS3 is better, I'm just saying that it's incorrect to say it's too expensive. It's cheaper *if* you want those things I mentioned. In my case, I prefer to have wireless Internet and free online play. Linux is a bonus, and so is Blu-ray. There are many people who probably fit in my boat, just like there are many people who fit in yours.
If you take into account just one of the following:
$50 x 4 years = $200
HD-DVD drive = $200
Wireless Adapter = $100
Base cost of of the XBox 360 20GB = $400
Base cost of PS3 base = $500
Not to mention the PS3 has better backwards compatibility, less hardware failures, less noisy.
This will probably be modded overrated, considering the huge numbers of Microsoft fanboy mods.
...according to your logic.
Microsoft's done much worse.
I would nominate Streetfighter as the originator of competitive fighting games like Streetfighter 2, Tekken, Virtua fighter, Killer Instinct, Mortal Kombat, as well as movies based on them.
I'd like to hear your opinions on Microsoft.
Microsoft is even worse. If you bothered reading Zonk's other articles, they've been too critical of the PS3 and Sony while heaping praise on Microsoft and the XBox. I have a feeling that you're just a fanboy that can't accept Sony news with out a negative spin.
I don't know how your post got modded insightful, more like troll - but of course, fanboy moderators will go through any lengths to get their voices heard.
The same comments you levied against Sony can be levied against Microsoft as well. Probably even more so.
So for $400 ($600 if you include online gaming, $700 with Wifi, and $900 with HD-DVD), Microsoft should "get it right the first time"?
This is the type of fanboy drivel that I'm sick of. There's no logic or sensible argument here. It's just ranting and if the parent comment was posted early enough, it would have gotten a +5 Insightful by other fanboy moderators.
Although Sony has made a few mistakes in it's public relations, one can't help but wonder if Microsoft has a hand with all the hate that is going on towards Sony. Microsoft has prior experience in creating FUD towards it's competitors, and in the fanboy culture of gaming, this has never been easier.
Microsoft's fanboy conversion rate is very high. Although there are some valid criticisms regarding the PS3, much of the same criticisms can be applied towards Microsoft.
For instance, the cost of the XBox 360 when WiFi and HD-DVD, and online gaming are added, is far greater than the cost of the high-end PS3. Sure you might like the modular approach, but the fact is, quite a significant portion of gamers use the online service, and use WiFi. If you add those two components, the XBox 360 costs over $100 more than the PS3 over 4 years. Add the HD-DVD player, and it costs $300. If the PS3 is prohibitively expensive, than the XBox 360 is more so, notably for online gamers who don't want to punch holes in their walls or ceilings.
Sony's business practices have been terrible in the past, but Microsoft's has been even worse. At least Sony is starting to embrace open standards, and we need to encourage that sort of thinking by buying their open products. The PS3 includes support for any USB webcam, or headphones, accepts flash cards other than Memory Stick, allows you to install other OS'es.. you can tell much of the machine was made by people who "get it".
Instead of arguing logical points, fanboys have been ranting over just about everything, even though some can be directed towards Microsoft, and some are just trivial in nature. For instance, Zonk ranted against Sony about long lineups at stores, and how people paid homeless people to buy a PS3. It's gotten to that point where logic no longer applies, and it's a mob mentality that's taken control of XBox gamers everywhere.
If you're getting paid by Microsoft, either in the form of advertising, laptops, or cash, then good for you, at least you're doing it for sound reasons. But if you're bashing Sony for everything they do, posting snide remarks under every Sony story, then you should ask yourself if you've been infected by Microsoft's viral campaign.
No, but it looks like Sony's actually IMPROVED upon the original ideas.
Microsoft rips off other products by first doing a poor imitation, tying it with Windows, pushing the competitor out, and then improving it to the point where the competitor is irrelevant, and then stopping all innovation, except when trying to get customers to purchase version (n++).0.
Microsoft does the exact same thing. Too bad 360 fanboys are too busy flaming to realize their hypocrisy.
In my opinion, IGN has the most impartial view of all three consoles. They're a lot more reputable than Kotaku or other sensational blogs.
Please, nothing by itself isn't worth it for $600, Gears of War isn't even worth the cost of an XBox 360. It's the whole package, and every little thing that adds to the package helps. So no, PS3 Home, isn't worth $600, but perhaps as one poster said, bug fixes and patches, Blu-ray, free online, WiFi included, etc... *is* enough for some people.
I'm tired of fanboys rehashing the same invalid arguments over and over again.
Sizable, but ultimately, a very small fraction of people. Unfortunately, you guys are also the loudest too.
The difference is that they're not the same. Microsoft is evil, Google isn't. Microsoft's approach to copyright and DRM is despicable, while Google's practices are to be admired.
We should all boycott Microsoft's products (if we can), like the Zune, Vista, the XBox 360, Office, etc...
That's the main reason you don't see wifi in many phones these days - providers are worried that customers will use VOIP instead of their long distance service.
Tell that to RIM.
Cost? technology? Processing power? I'm sure there were many other factors that rendered force feedback infeasible back in the 80s. And by the time Immersion came up with the idea (not the implementation), Nintendo had already put it in it's Rumble Pak, and there were vibrators and vibrating cellphones and pagers.
http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/myturn/?id=13861
Nintendo did it first.
And seriously, "game controllers and other devices to vibrate in response to certain events that happen during a game" - how hard is it to think of that? Cellphones, pagers and vibrators were already vibrating in response to certain events. It's a patent that didn't require much to think of, and should never have been awarded.
Sony at least tried to fight the ridiculous patent. I'd say Sony went to much further lengths than Microsoft did, hence Sony deserves more respect than Microsoft in this regard.
Immersion was awarded a ridiculous patent - vibration - which was found in many electronic devices already - pagers, cell phones, vibrators, and Nintendo's Rumble Pak.
Rather than fight a patent that shouldn't have been granted at all, Microsoft decided to team up with the patent troll, for the purpose of hindering their competitor, much like they did with SCO and Linux. I suppose you support that as well.
Sony recognized the patent was ludicrous and did the best they could at voiding the patent. Unfortunately they lost.
Microsoft did not "own" up. Rather, they did the despicable thing and gave credibility to the patent troll company (think SCO), by funding them. It's these sorts of practices that should convince people to boycott the Xbox 360.
Microsoft has a history of supporting trolls - just take a look at SCO. This time, they settled with the patent troll company Immersion, and proceeded to buy a 40% stake in the company.
This will benefit PS3 owners, but the public ultimately lost.