No, you can punish the big faceless organisation by not purchasing tickets from them in the first place, but urinating on the floor of the plane will only punish the FAs who already have a very hard and sometimes dangerous job, and might not be in a position to "look for a new job".
Gee, does your high horse come with a urinary catheter? Because I'm not seeing you giving any alternative to the person who really has to go but isn't permitted to do it in the bathroom.
I can understand where you're coming from but it's neither the fault of the flight attendants nor the cleaning crew that your country has such shitty regulations, but they're the only people who will suffer from your protest...
That's the "they are just doing their job" cop-out. If they aren't happy with the consequences of working for an organization that denies people their basic human dignities, then they should be looking for a new job. To give them a pass because they are just little people in the machinery of a big faceless organization is to give the big faceless organization a pass.
So, the totally incompetent TSA, which is wrong in everything else, is suddenly to be believed this ONE time?
Cherry-pick much?
(A) It's a National Lab, not the TSA that did the testing. You know, the same guys who build nukes? (B) Competent or not, internal consistency is a minimum requirement.
What you talkin 'bout Willis? Of course you can selectively license a patent, that's precisely the way they work.
If anyone here is mixing ideas from copyright and patents, it is you with your bullshit. The most well-known example being compulsory licensing of nondramatic musical works.
I see you got modded at least +1 informative based solely on your bluster, that moderator ought to be ashamed of his own ignorance.
Since "the other side" in this case are proponents of Open Source or Open Standards, please cite *one* case where an open standard was deliberately obstructing to MS.
I can't think of any actual cases off the top of my head, but it would not be hard to do...
Get a software patent on an encoder or decoder that is gplv3 licensed. Never license the patent other than to the gplv3 source code. The only way MS could then implement software to work with the data format would be to use the gplv3 source code which would require that the entire application be gplv3'd.
That's likely because, as was demonstrated by this incompetent in miniature, even an improperly-mixed binary explosive, if in sufficient quantity, can cause a fire in the cabin that will compromise the safety of the passengers -- depressurization, fumes from the fire, fumes from upholstery, etc.
Philippine Airlines Flight 434 - one passenger killed and hole in the aircraft fuselage by just such a bomb.
Not a binary explosive mixed in flight. It was a bunch of cotton balls soaked with nitroglycerin - you know that explosive that you just look at it funny and it blows up. In fact, it is so delicate that the apartment they were using to build the bombs in DID blow up, whcih is how they caught the guys.
So, if the TSA wants to ban all damp cotton balls they might have some justification. But, if they treated them the same way they do liquids today, they'd make you throw them into that huge trash can at the head of the line and there would be a good chance that the nitroglycerin would go BOOOOM when the bad guy did so, killing or maiming most people in the near vicinity.
The TSA itself has admitted that it is nearly impossible to pull off:
The preparation of these bombs is very much more complex than tossing together several bottles-worth of formula and lighting it up. In fact, in recent tests, a National Lab was asked to formulate a test mixture and it took several tries using the best equipment and best scientists for it to even ignite. That was with a bomb prepared in advance in a lab setting. A less skilled person attempting to put it together inside a secure area or a plane is not a good bet. You have to have significant uninterrupted time with space and other requirements that are not easily available in a secured area of an airport.
That's right -the TSA has admitted that binary explosives are essentially impossible to pull off, and yet they still insist on on the totally pointless liquid restrictions.
If this was really an al-Qaeda plot - then why did he not succeed in crashing the airplane ? Are you really trying to convince me that they are a bunch of incompetents who just manage to cause a little damage but that is all?
Yeah, imagine that, Al-Qaeda is really just the mouse that made the elephant dance in fright because it got lucky once. After all, Richard Reid was incompetent too.
What feeling of accomplishment do they really get and/or what point are they trying to make?
The ability to believably threaten to do it again in order to extort money. Or, given the timing, they may have been trying to make good on such a threat.
It's really funny though. If you make a joke about the mean, bad, imperialist pigdog Americans you get a +5 Funny - but woe on those who dare to play jokes on other racial or cultural stereotypes...
When you are an 800lbs gorilla, you have to watch where you sit. When you are a gnat, it doesn't matter.
The reality is that there is one and only one way to combat terrorism against the US: stop training terrorists and betraying them.
Bzzzzt!
The only way to effectively combat terrorism is to stop freaking the fuck out. By definition terrorists want to create terror. So stop over-reacting. Stop treating terrorism as some special evil that is a force unto itself worthy of endless news coverage and the constant ratcheting up of 'safety' rules. Live our lives as the free and the brave, not pathetic slaves to fear.
To me, publishing names of arrestees is punishment without due process.
On the flipside, public naming of arrestees is a major safeguard against secret detentions and everything else that comes with them.
Obviously twittering the names of arrestees is not necessary for that safeguarding, but not publishing that information at all would be a significant step backwards.
We might want our government to push back and assert our sovereignty but the governments that get elected seem inclined to just suck up to the US and take it.
And that's the fault of whom?
You may extole the virtues of democracy and freedom but if I country exercises those results and chooses to do something that doesn't agree with US foreign policy objectives they get slammed and insulted (see France, Germany, Canada).
Yeah, that boycott of french products by the psycho freedom-fries crowd really clobbered the French economy... Oh INSULTED, well, no wonder the politicos cave, those wisecracks really hurt!
You think practice is going to help these folks? You sir, are an optimist of the most impressive degree.
A little bit. But more importantly, as the cost of production reaches joe sixpack prices, there will be many more folks creating. Hollywood likes you to think they have a monopoly on talent when all they have is a monopoly on distribution. Even if 99.99% of the independently created stuff is crap, when you have millions of folks creating, you will still get thousands of gems.
The rent-seekers will lose the war, if for no other reason than they've chosen to make it a war of attrition and they are vastly outnumbered.
You can't just create words out of the blue. People will never be able to grok your meaning if you do. You know I'm right, so don't be all fugnutish about it.
Honestly, it only sounds trivially different from offline browsing - seems like you would get the same behaviour by switching to offline mode before going through your history and then switching back when you are done. I suppose it would be convenient to have it happen automatically in case you forget to switch and then blow the cache with a new page or error page instead.
major feature is ability to set pages from history to be always loaded from cache, which allows to recover forum/slashdot/tracker/bugzilla messages if some problem occurs
Is that on a per-page basis? Because you can do it globally in firefox with "Work Offline" under the File menu, I can't think of a time that feature wasn't there. I think it was even there in the netscape days.
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If government rules make it impossible to have comfortable flight, why should an airline even try to make the flight comfortable?
Ryanair has already taken this security mindset to its logical conclusion:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/22/ryanair_security/print.html
Conspiracy nuts on the Internet invented a straw man argument:
If the binary explosives issue is a complete strawman, than why is the TSA talking about it, testing it and yet not disputing it?
You think wrong.
Trying proving it to yourself.
No, you can punish the big faceless organisation by not purchasing tickets from them in the first place, but urinating on the floor of the plane will only punish the FAs who already have a very hard and sometimes dangerous job, and might not be in a position to "look for a new job".
Gee, does your high horse come with a urinary catheter? Because I'm not seeing you giving any alternative to the person who really has to go but isn't permitted to do it in the bathroom.
I can understand where you're coming from but it's neither the fault of the flight attendants nor the cleaning crew that your country has such shitty regulations, but they're the only people who will suffer from your protest...
That's the "they are just doing their job" cop-out. If they aren't happy with the consequences of working for an organization that denies people their basic human dignities, then they should be looking for a new job. To give them a pass because they are just little people in the machinery of a big faceless organization is to give the big faceless organization a pass.
So, the totally incompetent TSA, which is wrong in everything else, is suddenly to be believed this ONE time?
Cherry-pick much?
(A) It's a National Lab, not the TSA that did the testing. You know, the same guys who build nukes?
(B) Competent or not, internal consistency is a minimum requirement.
Patents do not work that way at all.
Hello, McFly?
You cannot selectively license a patent (0|+inf).
What you talkin 'bout Willis?
Of course you can selectively license a patent, that's precisely the way they work.
If anyone here is mixing ideas from copyright and patents, it is you with your bullshit. The most well-known example being compulsory licensing of nondramatic musical works.
I see you got modded at least +1 informative based solely on your bluster, that moderator ought to be ashamed of his own ignorance.
Since "the other side" in this case are proponents of Open Source or Open Standards, please cite *one* case where an open standard was deliberately obstructing to MS.
I can't think of any actual cases off the top of my head, but it would not be hard to do...
Get a software patent on an encoder or decoder that is gplv3 licensed. Never license the patent other than to the gplv3 source code. The only way MS could then implement software to work with the data format would be to use the gplv3 source code which would require that the entire application be gplv3'd.
You got it the wrong way round.
No, I got it precisely correct.
Read up on what happened to Lemuel Gulliver when he didn't pay attention to where he sat.
That's likely because, as was demonstrated by this incompetent in miniature, even an improperly-mixed binary explosive, if in sufficient quantity, can cause a fire in the cabin that will compromise the safety of the passengers -- depressurization, fumes from the fire, fumes from upholstery, etc.
Funny that they let people carry cigarette lighters and matches on board then, eh?
Philippine Airlines Flight 434 - one passenger killed and hole in the aircraft fuselage by just such a bomb.
Not a binary explosive mixed in flight.
It was a bunch of cotton balls soaked with nitroglycerin - you know that explosive that you just look at it funny and it blows up.
In fact, it is so delicate that the apartment they were using to build the bombs in DID blow up, whcih is how they caught the guys.
So, if the TSA wants to ban all damp cotton balls they might have some justification. But, if they treated them the same way they do liquids today, they'd make you throw them into that huge trash can at the head of the line and there would be a good chance that the nitroglycerin would go BOOOOM when the bad guy did so, killing or maiming most people in the near vicinity.
Yeah, but nearly 99.9% of terrorists are Muslim.
By that logic we should strip search anyone who breathes, after all 100% of terrorists breathe air.
Binary explosives are a bit hard to mix
That's an understatement.
The TSA itself has admitted that it is nearly impossible to pull off:
The preparation of these bombs is very much more complex than tossing together several bottles-worth of formula and lighting it up. In fact, in recent tests, a National Lab was asked to formulate a test mixture and it took several tries using the best equipment and best scientists for it to even ignite. That was with a bomb prepared in advance in a lab setting. A less skilled person attempting to put it together inside a secure area or a plane is not a good bet. You have to have significant uninterrupted time with space and other requirements that are not easily available in a secured area of an airport.
2.04.2008 More on the Liquid Rules: Why We Do the Things We Do
That's right -the TSA has admitted that binary explosives are essentially impossible to pull off, and yet they still insist on on the totally pointless liquid restrictions.
If this was really an al-Qaeda plot - then why did he not succeed in crashing the airplane ? Are you really trying to convince me that they are a bunch of incompetents who just manage to cause a little damage but that is all?
Yeah, imagine that, Al-Qaeda is really just the mouse that made the elephant dance in fright because it got lucky once.
After all, Richard Reid was incompetent too.
What feeling of accomplishment do they really get and/or what point are they trying to make?
The ability to believably threaten to do it again in order to extort money.
Or, given the timing, they may have been trying to make good on such a threat.
It's really funny though. If you make a joke about the mean, bad, imperialist pigdog Americans you get a +5 Funny - but woe on those who dare to play jokes on other racial or cultural stereotypes...
When you are an 800lbs gorilla, you have to watch where you sit.
When you are a gnat, it doesn't matter.
Agreed - and to strike with deadly, serious, respected force when we are fucked with.
No, you don't agree with me one bit. Your first sentence is a perfect example of freaking the fuck out.
The reality is that there is one and only one way to combat terrorism against the US: stop training terrorists and betraying them.
Bzzzzt!
The only way to effectively combat terrorism is to stop freaking the fuck out. By definition terrorists want to create terror. So stop over-reacting. Stop treating terrorism as some special evil that is a force unto itself worthy of endless news coverage and the constant ratcheting up of 'safety' rules. Live our lives as the free and the brave, not pathetic slaves to fear.
To me, publishing names of arrestees is punishment without due process.
On the flipside, public naming of arrestees is a major safeguard against secret detentions and everything else that comes with them.
Obviously twittering the names of arrestees is not necessary for that safeguarding, but not publishing that information at all would be a significant step backwards.
We might want our government to push back and assert our sovereignty but the governments that get elected seem inclined to just suck up to the US and take it.
And that's the fault of whom?
You may extole the virtues of democracy and freedom but if I country exercises those results and chooses to do something that doesn't agree with US foreign policy objectives they get slammed and insulted (see France, Germany, Canada).
Yeah, that boycott of french products by the psycho freedom-fries crowd really clobbered the French economy... Oh INSULTED, well, no wonder the politicos cave, those wisecracks really hurt!
Thank you captain obvious.
You think practice is going to help these folks? You sir, are an optimist of the most impressive degree.
A little bit. But more importantly, as the cost of production reaches joe sixpack prices, there will be many more folks creating. Hollywood likes you to think they have a monopoly on talent when all they have is a monopoly on distribution. Even if 99.99% of the independently created stuff is crap, when you have millions of folks creating, you will still get thousands of gems.
The rent-seekers will lose the war, if for no other reason than they've chosen to make it a war of attrition and they are vastly outnumbered.
You can't just create words out of the blue. People will never be able to grok your meaning if you do. You know I'm right, so don't be all fugnutish about it.
Don't be such an asshat.
Honestly, it only sounds trivially different from offline browsing - seems like you would get the same behaviour by switching to offline mode before going through your history and then switching back when you are done. I suppose it would be convenient to have it happen automatically in case you forget to switch and then blow the cache with a new page or error page instead.
major feature is ability to set pages from history to be always loaded from cache, which allows to recover forum/slashdot/tracker/bugzilla messages if some problem occurs
Is that on a per-page basis? Because you can do it globally in firefox with "Work Offline" under the File menu, I can't think of a time that feature wasn't there. I think it was even there in the netscape days.